●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, May 04, 2022 ●● ● May 04 [02:59] *activelow has quit (connection closed) ● May 04 [03:09] *activelow (~activelow@sf2k3tzt9a34c.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:22] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:22] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 04 [04:19] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:19] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● May 04 [06:37] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:56] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● May 04 [07:02] Techrights-sec what kind of activities have they been moving to the US and what kind have they [07:02] Techrights-sec been going out of their way to increase? And though you've covered it, [07:02] Techrights-sec which activities have they already outsourced? [07:02] Techrights-sec The message gives no details but reads like its closing down in the UK [07:02] Techrights-sec Regarding the compensatin, what does your union say about the situation? [07:05] schestowitz-TR gm [07:05] schestowitz-TR There is a lof of bluff [07:05] schestowitz-TR I think the plan is to bury debt [07:05] schestowitz-TR and then start afresh elsewhere [07:05] schestowitz-TR very long story, but nothing was really moved to the US, it's more like a shell [07:05] schestowitz-TR game. We did some reading and incolvency may mean that compensation cannot be pursued [07:05] schestowitz-TR in which case leaving might not be the worse option [07:34] Techrights-sec ack [07:35] schestowitz-TR let's put it this way: [07:35] schestowitz-TR a) company struggling financially for years [07:35] schestowitz-TR b) looks for way to cut costs (clown, office shutdown etc.) [07:35] schestowitz-TR c) lying to everyone [07:35] Techrights-sec a) and making bad decisions which make the financial situation worse ... [07:35] schestowitz-TR d) betrsying core principles [07:36] Techrights-sec b, c. and d come from the bad decisions exacerbating a [07:36] Techrights-sec in other words, a death spiral [07:40] schestowitz-TR as long as payments were made, it was convenient [07:40] schestowitz-TR one option is, cash in until the very end [07:40] schestowitz-TR based on the assumptiom it's an extraction maximised [07:40] Techrights-sec ack [07:44] schestowitz-TR so you do not think it is unreasonable. we can save up another large lump each month and if the losses is [07:44] schestowitz-TR at their own expenses, nothing to lose anyway? [07:44] Techrights-sec I guess so [07:44] Techrights-sec Was there any advice about the situation from the labor union? [07:48] schestowitz-TR there is no union, just a few colleagues who can speak over the phone [07:48] schestowitz-TR mind you, we've been in 'extraction' mode for years [07:48] schestowitz-TR some unpleasant decisions made is seem impertative to leave on the basis of principles mostly [07:48] schestowitz-TR but it was just too darn convenient [07:48] schestowitz-TR with the current climate, taking it easy would be even easier [07:48] schestowitz-TR if there is a task reassignment, then it's a whole new pandora's box [07:48] schestowitz-TR but based on my reading (official gov. site) recovering compensation in case of shutdown would [07:48] schestowitz-TR likely be off the books. may depend on the country, but I'm no expert [07:49] Techrights-sec the union can be specific to the field of work not a specific employer [07:49] schestowitz-TR yes, I was asked about joining an external union about 3 years ago when SarinGad was abusing people [07:49] schestowitz-TR more like 4 years ago [07:49] schestowitz-TR it was already grim back then [07:52] *wallacer has quit (connection closed) [07:52] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:53] Techrights-sec ack [07:55] schestowitz-TR leaving in "good terms" or semi-retiring means better references [07:55] schestowitz-TR but there is also an element of respect [07:55] schestowitz-TR all in all, they never treated us badly [07:55] schestowitz-TR so we might just cash in, say thank you, and boodbye [07:55] Techrights-sec yes [07:55] Techrights-sec ack ● May 04 [09:10] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:10] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 04 [10:38] schestowitz-TR brb [10:38] schestowitz-TR it looks like, given that one week os work is one month of expenses, better push it till end [10:38] schestowitz-TR willm speak to co. [10:38] Techrights-sec ack [10:55] schestowitz-TR another relatively slow news day [10:55] schestowitz-TR EPO series has 2 parts left to it [10:55] schestowitz-TR lupa seems to have slowed down the crawling [10:55] schestowitz-TR hence, less capacity to see all the new capsules [10:55] Techrights-sec India is in practice banning VPN usage [10:56] schestowitz-TR 1-2 days ago I posted an article or link to an articler rather [10:56] schestowitz-TR about how india was crushing things like a dictatorship under false pretences [10:56] schestowitz-TR or rather committing crimes whilke claiming ro protect people from crimes [10:56] schestowitz-TR modi H. Gates :-) [10:56] schestowitz-TR anyway,m this week feels like "Mayday Week" [10:56] schestowitz-TR very little news of substance [10:56] schestowitz-TR I'm OK with it, I can produce more articles ● May 04 [11:00] schestowitz-TR when we did exercise today I recalled I should really extend planet gemini [11:00] schestowitz-TR it was accessed 26 times yeterday, so I assume others are starting to use it too [11:00] schestowitz-TR it gives visibility to more capsules and I too use it to find picks [11:00] schestowitz-TR encouraging people to QUIT thinking ogf HTTP/S as the only game in town [11:01] Techrights-sec more articles heelps, it's why Reddit and other BS sites complain so much about [11:01] Techrights-sec TR [11:01] Techrights-sec good, Gemini is useful -- if one can discover the interesdting capsules [11:03] schestowitz-TR there is something called geddit for discussion within gemini (like social control media), [11:03] schestowitz-TR but I am not a fun [11:03] schestowitz-TR Re : [subject] is how we did it iun the golden era of blogging (around 2004), sometimes pingbacks, trackbacks of [11:03] schestowitz-TR even blog comments [11:03] schestowitz-TR social control media is centralisation of all those things [11:03] schestowitz-TR we need to shun that mindset [11:03] schestowitz-TR there are now about a dozen new articles in geminisppace about free speech [11:03] schestowitz-TR it's discussed across lots of capsules [11:13] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2zmw9s63d4rea.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:14] schestowitz-TR Why is EFF trying to boost and save BAD things???? "LISTEN ONYOUTUBE [...] How to Prevent Twitt [11:14] schestowitz-TR er from Going the Way of the Dodo" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/digital-rights-updates-effector-343 | So [11:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Digital Rights Updates with EFFector 34.3 | Electronic Frontier Foundation [11:14] schestowitz-TR urce: EFFBBB [11:14] schestowitz-TR me: twitter SHOULD go the way of the dodo [11:14] schestowitz-TR and I've been saying that for a very long time [11:14] schestowitz-TR as for youtube, eff took money from gulag for lobbying [11:14] schestowitz-TR which caused what'sHerNameFromIceland to get upset [11:14] schestowitz-TR after she had joined the Board of the EFF and read my blog post [11:51] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:51] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:52] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:52] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 04 [12:19] schestowitz-TR I've decuded at the end there's no point adding more capsules [12:19] schestowitz-TR as others already syndicate a lot and more importantly sort them by date (I'm not sure how they di [12:20] schestowitz-TR do it unless the rss feed has a field for that) [12:35] schestowitz-TR Surveillance https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/indian-government-now-wants-vpns-to-collect-and-turn-over-personal-data-on-users/ | Source: Techdirt [12:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Indian Government Now Wants VPNs To Collect And Turn Over Personal Data On Users | Techdirt [12:37] Techrights-sec yes more in the next batch of links [12:40] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 04 [14:21] schestowitz-TR "Unfortunately, this change resulted in some users no longer being able to use their OpenPGP keys. We learned that the affected users still depend on keys that were created or modified with OpenPGP software that used SHA-1 for the signatures that are part of OpenPGP keys." https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/05/openpgp-keys-and-sha-1/ [14:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.thunderbird.net | OpenPGP keys and SHA-1 The Thunderbird Blog [14:23] Techrights-sec SHA-1 is old and unsafe, that is different from the problem exhibited by [14:23] Techrights-sec thunderbird blockign use of multi-address keys [14:23] Techrights-sec Either way, it is a bad decision to continue to allow SHA-1 or if nothing [14:23] Techrights-sec else failing to make a clear statement about the timeline on which it will [14:23] Techrights-sec be phased out in the future [14:25] schestowitz-TR Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/new-sophisticated-malware.ht [14:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/new-sophisticated-malware.ht ) [14:25] schestowitz-TR ml [14:25] schestowitz-TR of course bruicie does not mention the part about Windows. Goodin is a Microsoft booster in Dondy Nasty. *Conde [14:33] schestowitz-TR ack [14:33] schestowitz-TR the press is full of M$ boosters who conveniently omit M$ role in establishing [14:33] schestowitz-TR a vulnerable industry [14:33] schestowitz-TR Louis Rossmann covers DRM far better than the EFF, in fact the EFF seems [14:33] schestowitz-TR to have forgotten about DRM [14:33] schestowitz-TR He has a interesting interview with Willie Cade about the tractors and [14:33] schestowitz-TR both understant the problems involved. [14:33] schestowitz-TR The EFF has been pedalling twitter and m$ against its own principles [14:33] Techrights-sec ack [14:33] Techrights-sec the press is full of M$ boosters who conveniently omit M$ role in establishing [14:33] Techrights-sec a vulnerable industry [14:33] Techrights-sec Louis Rossmann covers DRM far better than the EFF, in fact the EFF seems [14:33] Techrights-sec to have forgotten about DRM [14:33] Techrights-sec He has a interesting interview with Willie Cade about the tractors and [14:33] Techrights-sec both understant the problems involved. [14:33] Techrights-sec The EFF has been pedalling twitter and m$ against its own principles [14:33] schestowitz-TR EFF has been too busy trying to 'save' Twitter and campaigning in Gulag's censorship network to do [14:33] schestowitz-TR something to SAVE a network which MANDATED proprietary JS to writes CENSORED comms [14:33] schestowitz-TR I appreciate EFF partly for humour's purposes, much like Mozilla, which is located nearby and has some overlaps [14:33] Techrights-sec Tragedy is not funny :( [14:33] Techrights-sec Mozilla is a similar situation. :( [14:34] schestowitz-TR It is a sad situation [14:34] schestowitz-TR but laughter is the best medicine [14:38] schestowitz-TR if you work in a landfill, better to get used to or love the odor [14:38] schestowitz-TR if you deal with shit every day, better learn to smile at it [14:38] schestowitz-TR because it makes the work a lot more tolerable and you don't burn out easily [14:40] schestowitz-TR I have dealt with shit like this since my early 20s [14:40] schestowitz-TR most of the time we won't get our way, esp. when choosing very steep slopes [14:40] schestowitz-TR but when we do win, even just a little, it feels good [14:40] schestowitz-TR BTW, it's halfway in 2022 and still no UPC [14:43] Techrights-sec ack [14:43] schestowitz-TR merely slowing down a massive monsster of great proportions and huge threat is something [14:43] schestowitz-TR UPC and Microsoft are monsters [14:43] schestowitz-TR Novell is "small time" [14:43] schestowitz-TR Murk is already taking Twitter to the cleaners with plans for "fees" [14:43] schestowitz-TR he runs a losing company, where the only way is down... [14:43] schestowitz-TR Maybe he can ALREADY short-sell it [14:43] Techrights-sec it's still a problem that EFF does not act on the harm that social control media [14:43] Techrights-sec inherently causes [14:44] schestowitz-TR afaik Barlow never had an account there [14:44] schestowitz-TR I asaw none anyway [14:44] schestowitz-TR EFF cofounders got things done [14:44] schestowitz-TR instead of tweeting [14:44] Techrights-sec correct [14:49] schestowitz-TR Mastodon Basics Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164455 Twitter = one boss. Mastodon = one thousand bosses (some above others). Running your own blog, with RSS feeds = you're the boss. [14:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Mastodon Basics | Tux Machines [14:50] Techrights-sec correct [14:50] Techrights-sec ack [14:50] Techrights-sec Yes, RSS feeds have an advanatage over the Fediverse. Few wish to point out [14:50] Techrights-sec that the blacklists are centralized os while the instances might be distributed [14:50] Techrights-sec the control is not [14:52] schestowitz-TR Tim Wilson pointed this out in JoinDiaspora, in writing, IIRC, and moreover brought this up in at least [14:52] schestowitz-TR one show/ep of techbytes [14:52] schestowitz-TR tbh, he saw it ahead of me. Back then I could not grasp what he was getting at, or have not seen the s [14:52] schestowitz-TR severity of it yet [14:52] schestowitz-TR The people who flocked from G+ to plupora are on a dying site now too [14:52] schestowitz-TR its podadmin died [14:52] Techrights-sec the overhead for running and instance is outrageous anyway [14:53] schestowitz-TR [11:51] https://the-federation.info/diaspora [14:53] schestowitz-TR [11:51] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- the-federation.info | the federation - a statistics hub [14:53] schestowitz-TR [11:51] Imagine holiday dinners and stuff. [14:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-the-federation.info | the federation - a statistics hub [14:53] schestowitz-TR [11:52] You let the police in because it's your brother-in-law. [14:53] schestowitz-TR [11:52] Users: 822088 [14:53] schestowitz-TR [11:52] Last 6 months users: 30393 [14:53] schestowitz-TR [11:52] Last month users: 8825 [14:53] schestowitz-TR [11:52] He sees something. You're arrested for Christmas. [14:53] schestowitz-TR [11:52] --> u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined this channel. [14:53] schestowitz-TR [11:52] only 1 in 100 registered users if active [14:53] schestowitz-TR [11:52] last time i was looking for a place, i found a state trooper lived there [14:53] schestowitz-TR [11:52] so for each user on the network you have to maintain data, inc. images, for 99 more people [14:54] schestowitz-TR there is a lot more about this in the main IRC channel today, but that's one of many. We did the same for other "federated" platforms [14:58] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 04 [15:07] schestowitz-TR Melinda Gates: I divorce my husband because of Jeffrey Epstein, whose only 'value' was giving access to underage sex. Corporate media: Gates is divorced over adult relationships. Yeah, gaslight the wife for your SPONSOR Bill... [15:08] schestowitz-TR IF???? https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220503-activists-urge-ad-boycott-if-musk-turns-twitter-toxic [15:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.france24.com | Activists urge ad boycott if Musk turns Twitter toxic [15:20] Techrights-sec there are a lot of red herrings thrown out there to try to protect bill [15:20] Techrights-sec he's s bad that you can almost make up stuff and find out later it's true anyway [15:20] schestowitz-TR that reptile alien illuminati :-) [15:20] schestowitz-TR don't think he can pull it off. [15:20] schestowitz-TR In Twitter I saw people linking a lot to TR in recent days [15:20] schestowitz-TR the more he speaks, the louder people react [15:21] schestowitz-TR then he comes back from hiding [15:21] schestowitz-TR hoping that people forgot [15:21] schestowitz-TR maybe Zuck Musk can silence those "cranks" for him next time around [15:22] Techrights-sec thus the 'control' part of the social control media epithet [15:23] schestowitz-TR they made wikileaks go away by locking many accounts and making wikileaks PLUS its high-profikle supporters [15:23] schestowitz-TR a lot less visible [15:23] schestowitz-TR they can talk [15:23] schestowitz-TR but getting an audience will be hard [15:23] schestowitz-TR even people whom they're followed by [15:23] schestowitz-TR same issue in gulagtube BTW, from what I am able to gather [15:23] schestowitz-TR they can arbitrarily decide who wins and who loses [15:45] schestowitz-TR HELP, accidentially deleted my capsule gemini://jdj.golf/gemlog/shit.gmi [15:46] schestowitz-TR notice hiw like and comment feature at the bottom [15:46] schestowitz-TR not bad [15:46] schestowitz-TR not sure abouyt client compat [15:46] Techrights-sec backups are important -- every day if not more often, depending on the work [15:46] Techrights-sec "Moral of the story: backup your stuff" [15:48] Techrights-sec Interesting ● May 04 [17:58] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:58] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● May 04 [18:05] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@c4gvkhfifuani.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:23] schestowitz-TR Chart: Only Lockdowns Have Stopped COVID-19 From Spreading http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/04/covid- [18:23] schestowitz-TR test-case-ratio/ [18:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Chart: Only Lockdowns Have Stopped COVID-19 From Spreading [18:24] schestowitz-TR it goes close to zero after separating people [18:24] schestowitz-TR at this point their data portal become a propaganda avenue [18:24] schestowitz-TR they present data in a misleading fasdhion [18:24] schestowitz-TR asnd several times they made changes, each time to belittle the issue [18:24] Techrights-sec not a surprise [18:24] Techrights-sec "based on official NHS data" ... link ? [18:24] Techrights-sec the chart goes from right to left instead of the usual left to right though [18:24] schestowitz-TR e data would be an extra hassle, so I did not bother [18:24] schestowitz-TR you can open the ods and do your own thing [18:24] schestowitz-TR the chart is there, too [18:26] Techrights-sec ack [18:30] *teucer_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:32] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [18:32] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@jubkat3igexrk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:37] schestowitz-TR [18:37] Fewer than 50 million Brits got a second shot of 'fake' COVID-19, which means that almost 20 millions have not. But our government brags about figures like "92.5%" -- a misleading peer pressure tactic [18:38] Techrights-sec ack [18:45] schestowitz-TR [18:44] CISA Adds Five Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/04/cisa-adds-five-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog 40% are APPLE and 40% are Microsoft, but CIA is omitting that because it does not wish to admonish proprietary stuff with NSA back doors? [18:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | CISA Adds Five Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA [18:45] schestowitz-TR *CISA [18:49] Techrights-sec I would guess so [18:49] Techrights-sec Remember M$ got in on Biden's election campagin and according to custom [18:49] Techrights-sec he owes them a big one [18:49] Techrights-sec for that [18:49] Techrights-sec even if it is more likely they actually hurt his campaign as much or more [18:49] Techrights-sec than they helped ● May 04 [19:45] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 04 [20:29] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:29] *rianne (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:39] *teucer_ (~teucer@ude3wyut6eqne.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:50] *teucer_ has quit (Quit: leaving) [20:58] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@nh7gdym4qbe5w.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 04 [23:14] *wallacer has quit (Quit: wallace dozed off) [23:14] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:21] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)