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| schestowitz-TR | kaniini is looking into the disk-related warnings | Jul 04 05:42 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I had to repair the DB twice more | Jul 04 05:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | same table | Jul 04 05:43 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Ok I'm glad it has his attention but it is unfortunate it is taking time from | Jul 04 05:58 |
| Techrights-sec2 | his other activities | Jul 04 05:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've suggested a new VM | Jul 04 07:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | (no repy yet) | Jul 04 07:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | also examined drupal 6-> hugo conversion | Jul 04 07:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | i know it's holiday | Jul 04 07:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's in the public channel, in the scrollback | Jul 04 07:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | the important tables are still OK AFAIk | Jul 04 07:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we have techniucal debt at CMS level and OS level | Jul 04 07:05 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 04 07:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the OS level might be the easiest to solve | Jul 04 07:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | supposedly July 4th is when Thoreau move out to Walden Pond: | Jul 04 07:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://www.britannica.com/biography/Henry-David-Thoreau/Move-to-Walden-Pond | Jul 04 07:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | though the exact date is not in /that/ particular article | Jul 04 07:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Henry David Thoreau - Move to Walden Pond | Britannica | Jul 04 07:10 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | today I don't sleep too well, had 4 batches of sleep, waking up to check tail -f | Jul 04 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | the past 2 ot 3 times the repair did not have to alter anything | Jul 04 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it just showed some alerts related to the search index | Jul 04 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | but overall these issues go bakc more than a week | Jul 04 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | we just don't quite see them | Jul 04 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I checked randomly some pages to ensure all works OK | Jul 04 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | one option I tought was involves loss of some comments etc. | Jul 04 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we need to have accounts open for contributors like marius | Jul 04 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | from what I've read, upgrading drupal is not easy at all | Jul 04 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'reinventing' the site would spoil what it stands for though | Jul 04 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wish some companies rleased software and properly supported | Jul 04 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it for decades | Jul 04 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not an impossible task, but financial motivation | Jul 04 07:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://www.csmonitor.com/Books/chapter-and-verse/2014/0704/Fourth-of-July-Almost-two-hundred-years-ago-Thoreau-moved-into-his-Walden-Pond-cabin | Jul 04 07:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | TM has brief outages throughout the day, so those are more likely slowdowns and | Jul 04 07:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | timeouts than anything else | Jul 04 07:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the appeal to novelty fallacy is too heavily used for that to be allowed | Jul 04 07:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and, yes, there are perverse incentives motivating churn rather than stability | Jul 04 07:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that churn also allows decommodification to creep in a little at a time | Jul 04 07:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fourth of July: Almost two hundred years ago, Thoreau moved into his Walden Pond cabin - CSMonitor.com | Jul 04 07:15 | |
| schestowitz-TR | the analogy I can come up with is, build a radio that lasts 30 years versus "smart" tuner that stops getting | Jul 04 07:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | updates after a few years and is "end of life" (good luck or buy a new one) | Jul 04 07:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for sofwtare | Jul 04 07:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | while I don't know (nor think) the DB issue is related to the disk, it would help to address that other issue | Jul 04 07:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | too. kaniini says the sites are i/o intensive, which is likely correct | Jul 04 07:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they look I/O intensive | Jul 04 07:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | so maybe that's the cause, but with bad backup files it is not benign | Jul 04 07:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok | Jul 04 07:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am testing DB integrity | Jul 04 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | ping | Jul 04 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | ignore warnings | Jul 04 07:56 |
| Techrights-sec2 | otr: I have to head out for some errands shortly | Jul 04 07:56 |
| Techrights-sec2 | pong | Jul 04 07:56 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok | Jul 04 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, for the record and for transparency: | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | what I did: | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | check search_index integrity | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | as it was marked as crashed | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | then repaired it | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | it took a long time | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | almost 5 mins in this many cores | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | as a result, some search results in TM look a little odd | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | but critical data seems OK | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | II did further testing | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | after the repair | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | 1) get db remote, check gz | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | 2) get db local, check gz | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | 3) check db | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | 4) tail -f running now to see if anything breaks again (I suspect it's a matter of time but hope not | Jul 04 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Contingencies: fall back to older DB, export to another CMS, or try to repair on the go | Jul 04 08:14 |
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| schestowitz-TR | went to run errands | Jul 04 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | db still in good state since the work this morning | Jul 04 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I monitor it closely | Jul 04 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | almost noboody wears maska anymore so it's self defence in the stor, even in quiet times | Jul 04 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | mask, second mask, shades, hat | Jul 04 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need a second mask that looks like the one of hannbal lector | Jul 04 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | it can buy me more distance | Jul 04 12:39 |
| Techrights-sec | yes earlier | Jul 04 12:40 |
| Techrights-sec | excellent | Jul 04 12:40 |
| Techrights-sec | tux machines 06:55, tux machines 09:00 | Jul 04 12:40 |
| Techrights-sec | just two hiccoughs noticed from here ^ | Jul 04 12:40 |
| Techrights-sec | almost no one does here either and | Jul 04 12:40 |
| Techrights-sec | supposedly there are now crowded concerts | Jul 04 12:40 |
| Techrights-sec | and other events happening and the shops are too crowded etc | Jul 04 12:40 |
| Techrights-sec | good | Jul 04 12:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I carry heavier item like carton of soya drink | Jul 04 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne is better at finding the expensive things cheaply | Jul 04 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | takes time, but the savings add up to a salary | Jul 04 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | I hope to have better sleep tonight | Jul 04 12:43 |
| Techrights-sec | nice | Jul 04 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was also too cold and window was open | Jul 04 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | one upside is, along the way I learn some dba-like skills and utils | Jul 04 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can cope with low temps, we have home-wide heating, but it has been off since 2019 | Jul 04 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | our electric+gas bill for this month is 85 | Jul 04 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | now with extra power for the aquarium | Jul 04 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I try to dry-shave more and use the hot water a lot (or coffee machine) | Jul 04 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | my friend mike (home of a couple) paid 250 per month | Jul 04 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | insane! | Jul 04 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | not including the money he spends pumping gas into his reasonably oversized vehicle | Jul 04 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: in the late 80's I read the account of shipwreck survivor; | Jul 04 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: it went down in the Great Lakes during winter and he attribued | Jul 04 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: survival in the raft to toughening up with an open window all winter | Jul 04 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: his story was quite surreal as it involved a lot of dreams and | Jul 04 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: hallucinations as he was near to freezing to death; all the other | Jul 04 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: from the ship had already frozen to death long before he was rescued | Jul 04 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: in the late 80's I read the account of shipwreck survivor; | Jul 04 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: it went down in the Great Lakes during winter and he attribued | Jul 04 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: survival in the raft to toughening up with an open window all winter | Jul 04 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: his story was quite surreal as it involved a lot of dreams and | Jul 04 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: hallucinations as he was near to freezing to death; all the other | Jul 04 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: from the ship had already frozen to death long before he was rescued | Jul 04 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | practice is always good if it comes in handy later | Jul 04 12:49 |
| Techrights-sec | practice is always good if it comes in handy later | Jul 04 12:49 |
| *Now talking on #boycottnovell | Jul 04 12:56 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | got 5 errors related to the search table | Jul 04 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | repairing now | Jul 04 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | now as alarming as some errors I saw yesterday | Jul 04 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I do not even know if it's related to the storage layer at the disk/OS | Jul 04 13:22 |
| Techrights-sec | I am not so experienced with databases as to be able to guess why the tables | Jul 04 13:29 |
| Techrights-sec | appear to be curdling spontaneously | Jul 04 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | of note: tuxmachines has write operations around the clock for site updates | Jul 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | so rollbacks are rarely a fallback | Jul 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | DB replication is overkill | Jul 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is not critical data | Jul 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the tables will need to protect the most are nodes and comments | Jul 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | stuff like block_cache or search_index are almost disposable | Jul 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and this is why despite 3-4 days of error nothing was noticed until you | Jul 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | said something | Jul 04 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec | still it would be reassuring to be able to prevent | Jul 04 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec | we can't "protect" the important tables without knowing how to prevent | Jul 04 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec | the errors in the peripheral tables IMO | Jul 04 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec | Is LDC sufficiently reliable? | Jul 04 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec | s/LDC/LXC/ | Jul 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | canonical | Jul 04 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | each company makes up its own "container" 'solution' | Jul 04 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then 'skills' become knowing some interfaces | Jul 04 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the abstractions | Jul 04 13:37 |
| Techrights-sec | yes and the containers are effectively blobs because no one outside a specific | Jul 04 13:38 |
| Techrights-sec | department at the originating company can actually know the secrets behind | Jul 04 13:38 |
| Techrights-sec | putting it together. Such projects as BigBlueButton come to mind but there | Jul 04 13:38 |
| Techrights-sec | are others. | Jul 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | thie is how theel sell support: red hat, squiz matrix... seen it | Jul 04 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | they like it when things break ' a little' and nobody knows how to save the systems | Jul 04 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they sign some overkill support contract | Jul 04 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | their "certified" minions put that shit inside company's systems and then leave | Jul 04 13:40 |
| Techrights-sec | it's a way of working around copyleft and doing proprietary actions | Jul 04 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is different | Jul 04 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | not proprietary | Jul 04 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | badge-ware | Jul 04 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | with "proprietarty" defects | Jul 04 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | to who, running TM or TR is like "piracy" because all the pieces are quite the commodity | Jul 04 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | or we are "free riding" | Jul 04 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | from the POV of the companies | Jul 04 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | wordpress.com prob has some support contracts | Jul 04 13:48 |
| Techrights-sec | WP is overly complex and is using that, along with some exagerated design flaws, | Jul 04 13:50 |
| Techrights-sec | to pull in money. It's been turned so nasty that most peope just give in | Jul 04 13:50 |
| Techrights-sec | and hire someone else to run it for them; that does not make the | Jul 04 13:50 |
| Techrights-sec | security problems related to the methods they have chosen for automated updates | Jul 04 13:50 |
| Techrights-sec | go away at all | Jul 04 13:50 |
| schestowitz | 2013: https://techrights.org/2013/10/31/wordpress-automatic-update/ | Jul 04 13:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Back Door (Automatic Update) in WordPress and What It Means to Techrights | Techrights | Jul 04 13:51 | |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Jul 04 14:00 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, it's a double back door: remote login + over FTP | Jul 04 14:00 |
| Techrights-sec | digging through blog RSS feeds again | Jul 04 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | your feeds helped a lot in weaning us off gulag noise | Jul 04 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | which was years overdue in retrospect, as I spent time and got angered by that | Jul 04 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot produce many stories today | Jul 04 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | not because of TM (last error was 3 hours ago) | Jul 04 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but due to slow news | Jul 04 15:07 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Jul 04 15:08 |
| Techrights-sec | there are still RSS feeds to discover but there are still too many good sites | Jul 04 15:08 |
| Techrights-sec | which lack feeds of any kind | Jul 04 15:08 |
| Techrights-sec | the slow news is an ongoing problem and the pair of links about furtjher | Jul 04 15:08 |
| Techrights-sec | cuts to journalism give a heads up that it will get slower still later this year | Jul 04 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne read to me billbc headline 2 hours ago | Jul 04 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's about expecting food prices to soar some more | Jul 04 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | contradicting utter bs my dad told me the other day | Jul 04 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's usually clueless on things | Jul 04 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | but overconfident | Jul 04 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | today's 8 bangers cost 39p, i.e. 0.05 pounds per sausage | Jul 04 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | last nigght I promised myself to focus on TM and not worry abotu writing new articles | Jul 04 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | TM is more important atm | Jul 04 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | is he afflicted by Facebook? | Jul 04 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 04 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | so far we published about 30 nodes since midnight and it's only 3pm | Jul 04 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | he does not 'use' FB | Jul 04 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | but maybe a passive, second-hand smoker | Jul 04 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | as many around him do use the thing | Jul 04 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think I deleted his FB account for him twice, not once | Jul 04 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | after he had asked me to about a decade ago | Jul 04 15:13 |
| Techrights-sec | could be; it is a terrible fountain of disinformation | Jul 04 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | money is not a bottleneck, the hosting is a favour/charitable | Jul 04 15:17 |
| Techrights-sec | this site is still indexed: | Jul 04 15:17 |
| Techrights-sec | https://justice4assange.org/Asylum-illegally-terminated.html | Jul 04 15:17 |
| Techrights-sec | but seems removed from the net recently. Any idea? | Jul 04 15:17 |
| Techrights-sec | ok I understand, and really appreciate the valuable contribution, | Jul 04 15:17 |
| Techrights-sec | but it seems we are slowing painting ourselves into a corner regarding the OS | Jul 04 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Failed connect to justice4assange.org:443; Operation now in progress ( status 0 @ https://justice4assange.org/Asylum-illegally-terminated.html ) | Jul 04 15:17 | |
| schestowitz-TR | ack | Jul 04 15:19 |
| Techrights-sec | and there is so much of the current work flow which could be improved with | Jul 04 15:19 |
| Techrights-sec | current tools | Jul 04 15:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | do you still rsync across TR files, imc. TM dumps? | Jul 04 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | the major "assets" are the databases | Jul 04 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we need copies of the files too | Jul 04 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of these files, like epo stuff, are uniquely hosted by us | Jul 04 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we are the sole preserver | Jul 04 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is a bit scary and a burden | Jul 04 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | people trust us to keep them online, it took sacrifice | Jul 04 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm off work till weds 1am | Jul 04 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | my #1 goal is to keep all that info online and widely accessible | Jul 04 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | aside from personal goals like not being a shitty husband | Jul 04 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne is understanding unlike the girl I dated who said "I don't like it" | Jul 04 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and who worked for a paralegal or something | Jul 04 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | ("it" referred to the activism) | Jul 04 15:26 |
| Techrights-sec | sometimes; however rsync has not worked for that of late; sftp does work | Jul 04 15:27 |
| Techrights-sec | "be excellent to eachother" | Jul 04 15:27 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 04 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | going to fanalise another batch now | Jul 04 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a good way to keep the site active when I have nothing special to say | Jul 04 15:28 |
| Techrights-sec | news deserts can be a topic | Jul 04 15:32 |
| Techrights-sec | since that's one of the things which came up indirectly today | Jul 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | random point: | Jul 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | for TM and TR, JUST BEING ONLINE and serving pages is in itself a "winning" move | Jul 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a race against outside threats, inc. tech rot | Jul 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | like I said before, many "big" news sites like IDG's *world have shut down | Jul 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | they need migrations and sys admins to keep those running | Jul 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if they don't have no "content" (salaried writers), then traffic is low | Jul 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and cost of tech people becomes harder to justify | Jul 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | we, however, run on shoestring budget | Jul 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | like RMS who said he himself does not need a salary | Jul 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | shithub was never "free" hosting | Jul 04 15:32 |
| Techrights-sec | what are the repercussions of techdirt no longe self-hosting and moving | Jul 04 15:33 |
| Techrights-sec | to what amounts to a backdoored system | Jul 04 15:33 |
| Techrights-sec | Jul 04 15:33 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I am not familiar with what techdirt ran on before as all pages were served through clownflare | Jul 04 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | which masks the origin of pages among other things | Jul 04 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | phoronix does the same | Jul 04 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | (phoronix too has slow news syndrome today) | Jul 04 15:35 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 04 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) slow news syndrome = I shall write about an absolute shit (instead of not writing at all) | Jul 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) techdirt can not be muzzled by threatening the host, which iirc is increasidnly dmca-friendlty | Jul 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and does not want to spend money on lawyers in court | Jul 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | techdirt pulled one key writers from that broadband news site you mentioned the other day | Jul 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | karl iirc | Jul 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | bode? | Jul 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the one you said was deteriorating | Jul 04 15:38 |
| Techrights-sec | not sure | Jul 04 15:38 |
| Techrights-sec | Broadbandbreakfast is going south | Jul 04 15:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the one | Jul 04 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | karl bode iirc was the name | Jul 04 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | he started writing for techdirt many years ago | Jul 04 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they lost other pivotal people | Jul 04 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | if a site spends 50% of the time writing stuff and 50% of the time protecting what was published (curation, preservation) | Jul 04 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | that;''s fiar, provided the latter is in fact... effective | Jul 04 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | if it's a 90to-10 ratio, OK... writing does not even mean literally writing, maybe 80% reading and learning, 20% putting in words | Jul 04 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the conclusions | Jul 04 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | right now we agonise a bit over the latter and deal with the tech, but that's a normal thing every now and then | Jul 04 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | we already hopped between servers about 5 times already | Jul 04 15:46 |
| Techrights-sec | coud be, I don't track the names like I should | Jul 04 15:47 |
| Techrights-sec | 9-to-5-linux is a good site, but I don't check it sine you have that covered | Jul 04 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | marius manages that for us | Jul 04 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | the pipeline is, he posts in TM within minutes | Jul 04 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | I grabbed it from there and then it goes into TR daily links | Jul 04 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | he doesn't tolerate trash like "openshift" or WSL or... | Jul 04 15:49 |
| Techrights-sec | awesome! | Jul 04 15:49 |
| Techrights-sec | excellent | Jul 04 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so no time-wasting | Jul 04 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | side story | Jul 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | today when I repaired the DB he submitted the weekly roundup and double posted it due to my word causing timeout | Jul 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I unpublished the latter of the two | Jul 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is why moving away from drupal would be a major problem | Jul 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | other authors/editors | Jul 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a particular workflow | Jul 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | soon 4 hours since last error in mysql.log | Jul 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am trying to correlate events with error, maybe it's something that triggers this | Jul 04 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | we had much bigger problems when we put the ddos protection in there | Jul 04 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | or when I had to manually resubmit about 70 nodes | Jul 04 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to a very important table breaking apart (not for the first time) | Jul 04 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | node_revisions is not so important | Jul 04 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like interim versions of node | Jul 04 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | index and cache for search and blocks, respectively, are self-healing afaik | Jul 04 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people's personality is unfit for this as they give up fast | Jul 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | masnick suffered a long lawsuit and still managed to get back to writintg | Jul 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlikle, say, om malik afeter he had a minor heart attack/stroke | Jul 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | julian assange had a small stoke this past october and even if he gets relased to austrlian | Jul 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think too much damage was done for him to get back to wikileaks as active | Jul 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | contributor. much can be said about rms and esr, maybe even lbt (torvalds) | Jul 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | all 3 suffered what I would call 'traumatising' episodes | Jul 04 15:57 |
| Techrights-sec | masnick is not 100% any more though | Jul 04 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | i admired masnick when he wrote 10 long posts per day | Jul 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | how TF did he do that?? | Jul 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | Now it's a lot less | Jul 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | like Linus with his SUnday release announcements | Jul 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's there, but it's not the same persona | Jul 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | or RMS being an appeaser of sorts | Jul 04 16:00 |
| Techrights-sec | assange will never be back, that was a secondary goal of the attack, | Jul 04 16:00 |
| Techrights-sec | the primary goal is against subsequent journalism and journalists | Jul 04 16:00 |
| Techrights-sec | yes in the past Masnick was great | Jul 04 16:00 |
| Techrights-sec | CoC ? | Jul 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, conditions upon "return" | Jul 04 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik, someone prefilters his personal posts and he doesn't do media interviews and such | Jul 04 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | they fear anoter "cancel wave" | Jul 04 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | empahsis on they | Jul 04 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | not an oddball word but literally several people who control the FSF rather than follow | Jul 04 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | a leader like it was... for nearly 35 years | Jul 04 16:03 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | Jul 04 16:07 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 04 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | Pamela Jones vanished completely | Jul 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | RMS is controlled by people whose life style requires a salary and whose salary is paid by members and "patrons", so in some | Jul 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | sense the FSF is controlled by this thirst for funds and people who pocket these funds (greg, zoe..) now control | Jul 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | what RMS can and cannot say, who he can speak to/associate with | Jul 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's FSF with "not so much freedom" of association or speech | Jul 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | sad to say... | Jul 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | companies don't give money "for free" | Jul 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | they buy into the brand | Jul 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | librem, PIA, Mozilla, Gulag... | Jul 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, our very very "Linux " lamer Gardiner now promotes dos shit for... steam dreck | Jul 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's like a commercials channel of valve | Jul 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not even click, just link | Jul 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's still gnu/linux/kde behind those laywers of FS lock-down and DRM | Jul 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | fs=file system | Jul 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | corporate donors = doping | Jul 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | you shorten your life | Jul 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait till the drugs fuck aorund with internal affairs (or organs) | Jul 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "patrons" threaten to leave and you get cold feet | Jul 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not a surstinable operative mode | Jul 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | *model | Jul 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | like gullagtruber who quit their job and/or dropped out of college | Jul 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and start "algospeak" and stuff to get "monetised" better | Jul 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | like provoking homeless people | Jul 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | or not mentioning "offending" subjects | Jul 04 16:10 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 04 16:11 |
| Techrights-sec | the corporate shilling gives a temporary infusion of money in exchange for | Jul 04 16:11 |
| Techrights-sec | a permanent loss of audience and community support | Jul 04 16:11 |
| Techrights-sec | money buys silence on a lot of topics, look at NPR / PBS for bad examples | Jul 04 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | both took gates bribes at least a decade ago and ever since, on conditional repreats | Jul 04 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they must behave | Jul 04 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | the strings as the conditional "renewal" from the cliernt | Jul 04 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | now NPR is also funded by Microsoft | Jul 04 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | double-dipping | Jul 04 16:12 |
| Techrights-sec | m$ buys support | Jul 04 16:15 |
| Techrights-sec | LF is out to kill Linux as brand | Jul 04 16:15 |
| Techrights-sec | especially in regards to the kernel | Jul 04 16:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | any client you lose = colleagues who might be laid off | Jul 04 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF took that to a whole new level | Jul 04 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | Linux as a brand became more "mainstream", except not as a kernel | Jul 04 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | but a junkword | Jul 04 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft "green" datacentres, "endorsed" by Linux(TM) | Jul 04 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not chedck if Bryan Luinduke's calculations are accurate, but he said 1% or 3% of LF funds go towards ACTUAL Linux | Jul 04 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | imagine us giving to elephant charities (we donate about 5 times a year) only to discover the elephants get mere cents | Jul 04 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | we woould be up in arms | Jul 04 16:18 |
| Techrights-sec | yes that, if true, ought to be hammered on -- 3% | Jul 04 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't know how he calculated it, did not pass the smell test at all | Jul 04 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe he just added up the salaries for 3 kernel hackers | Jul 04 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not various associated activities and operationas | Jul 04 16:20 |
| Techrights-sec | I don;t suppose he can be approached to follow up on that | Jul 04 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | you would have to chip in for that one-hour session with Mr. "Linux Sucks" | Jul 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's billed at $300 per hour | Jul 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | ;-) | Jul 04 16:21 |
| Techrights-sec | e he can be approached to follow up on that | Jul 04 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Jul 04 16:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | today I reminder rianne next month we go to the solicitor regarding naturalisation and passport | Jul 04 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | two separate processes | Jul 04 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | next week we might know the outcome of our request to work saturday until sunday evening (5:30), then free 128 hours | Jul 04 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | hard to predict the outcome, it's guy feeling | Jul 04 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | this solicitor does not rip us off at all, it's like massive discount and effective | Jul 04 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're from HK I think, but born here | Jul 04 16:25 |
| Techrights-sec | great | Jul 04 16:25 |
| Techrights-sec | that is important to have settled | Jul 04 16:25 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 04 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | we can retire ok as weekend-only sys admin/noc, assuming we can last another decade | Jul 04 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | in this veyr volatile world | Jul 04 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | TM DB ok for 4.5 hours now | Jul 04 16:26 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 04 16:31 |
| Techrights-sec | 4.5 is short though, a small fraction of a full day | Jul 04 16:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, but an improvement | Jul 04 16:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | it also impacts recoverable tables | Jul 04 16:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | rmemeber that some issues mysteriously go away | Jul 04 16:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | like that issue we had months ago with TR apache just 'hanging' | Jul 04 16:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | for no known reason | Jul 04 16:32 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know it sounds like superstitutious nonsense | Jul 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and terrible sys admining | Jul 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but sometimes we solve issues | Jul 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes it's "that too shalt pass" | Jul 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe it's even a bug due to some node input with emoji shit | Jul 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the DB REALLY hate emojis | Jul 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | so very much | Jul 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's "too new" | Jul 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | meanwhile I've run a script to lower load on that VM and see if maybe the spikes contributed to this issue | Jul 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | as kaniini did mention high i/o | Jul 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | some search queries and other things can hammer away at the DB for minutes | Jul 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | we can neutralise these proavtively | Jul 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have a fossil db | Jul 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | the tools I used today are very old and considered obsolete over a decade ago | Jul 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to the storage engine | Jul 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | xrevan explained to me earlier this year that migration away from this torage engine would not be simple | Jul 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | at all | Jul 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | at one point I can use exporters I downloaded specifically for drupal 6 and for static CMS | Jul 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | one envisioned path is make "old" site and then start afresh with same RSS feed address | Jul 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | when all other options run out | Jul 04 16:47 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 04 16:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | ota | Jul 04 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | (just did daily links) | Jul 04 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | ota | Jul 04 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | done | Jul 04 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | windows in turkey 9.8% now lol | Jul 04 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | its military was first to move to gnu/linux | Jul 04 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | media hardly mentioned it | Jul 04 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think sam varghese did | Jul 04 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | (first in turkey) | Jul 04 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | then italy | Jul 04 17:17 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 04 17:17 |
| Techrights-sec | so is Turkey hardening its cyberdefenses in prep for a conflict with Europe? | Jul 04 17:17 |
| Techrights-sec | The French Gendarmerie was first IIRC | Jul 04 17:17 |
| Techrights-sec | Italy is doing ok in that regard too | Jul 04 17:17 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Jul 04 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | drafting | Jul 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | repetitive on subjects | Jul 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but an importasnt one | Jul 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and undercovered | Jul 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | not yet | Jul 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | 5 mins | Jul 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, ready now | Jul 04 17:30 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Jul 04 17:30 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Jul 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | credit to psydroid2 for noticing the trends in turkey | Jul 04 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I hadn't seen it till he told me | Jul 04 17:34 |
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| schestowitz-TR | ok | Jul 04 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | ack | Jul 04 18:05 |
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| schestowitz-TR | done | Jul 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | published | Jul 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | didn't even realise rianne gave me the portland shirt | Jul 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | my sister will leave the place some time... | Jul 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | 6+ hours now without mysql.log entry... best since around 27/6/2022 | Jul 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe keeping i/o lower will lower the probability of issues | Jul 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm still testing cause and effect | Jul 04 18:08 |
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| Techrights-sec | ok | Jul 04 18:25 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 04 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | 6pm, 39 new/updated nodes in tuxmachines | Jul 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | on july 4th! | Jul 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | happiness is a relative thing | Jul 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm happy the site is managing to cope now | Jul 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll monitor is super closely overnight | Jul 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks for reporting the isuse | Jul 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you hadn't said anything, I'd likely only notice when things started breaking in a more visible way | Jul 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "cannot add new nodes" | Jul 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | or site won't even run | Jul 04 18:26 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Jul 04 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | checking now | Jul 04 18:29 |
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| schestowitz-TR | photo number 15 | Jul 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | \ | Jul 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I like photo #11 better | Jul 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is some occlusion that ruins it though | Jul 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | high res photo, so it can be cropped into a rectangle | Jul 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | parade of the electric cords in #1 | Jul 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | brb, writing something about gemini:// | Jul 04 18:37 |
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| schestowitz-TR | draft | Jul 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw to have any graden at all where we are (town, stadium) isn't easy | Jul 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | so even a little one is valuable | Jul 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will embed the video "web we had" | Jul 04 18:57 |
| Techrights-sec | true | Jul 04 18:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Jul 04 18:57 |
| Techrights-sec | btw +1 : "on a daily basis we have over 100 unique visitors in the capsule. Not counting the Web proxies" | Jul 04 18:57 |
| Techrights-sec | s/. Not/, not/ | Jul 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | last night I programmed ipfs to start automatically at 3am or reset itself at that time | Jul 04 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the time being I'm OK with it turned on most of the day | Jul 04 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | the improvments made to cope with connection timeouts are valuable either way | Jul 04 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | as they make the capsule refreshers more robust | Jul 04 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne and I don't intend to put the pi on wifi again | Jul 04 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | its has its own nice little corner safe from human contact (almost) | Jul 04 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and from the fish splashing water nearby | Jul 04 19:14 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 04 19:22 |
| Techrights-sec | it is faster without wifi anyway | Jul 04 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | that too | Jul 04 19:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | spamnil has gone on for a month now without clickfraud | Jul 04 19:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | rehabilitation | Jul 04 19:23 |
| Techrights-sec | I doubt he has reformed. Probably just shifted focus or tactics | Jul 04 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah, 'rehab' as tongue-in-cheeck | Jul 04 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | cheek | Jul 04 19:49 |
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