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schestowitz> Hi Jonathan,Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> Various people, including former Google Summer of Code and OutreachySep 04 00:30
schestowitz> participants, contacted me recently about the privacy violations andSep 04 00:30
schestowitz> gossip culture started by your predecessor Chris Lamb in September 2018.Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz>  I put Chris, Stephanie and Kent on CC because I don't like to talkSep 04 00:30
schestowitz> about people or corporations behind their backs.Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> Can you please make it a priority to liaise with the operators of allSep 04 00:30
schestowitz> web sites, including:Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> debian.org,Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> Google.com,Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> twitter,Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> debian.community,Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> techrights.org,Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> tuxmachines.org,Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> fsfe.org, etcSep 04 00:30
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> to act like adults and remove all the defamation about all volunteers, ever.Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> I am not only referring to recent acts of defamation but all acts ofSep 04 00:30
schestowitz> defamation and intimidation in the entire history of Debian.Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:30
schestowitz> For example, debian-private contains false accusations about harassment,Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> abuse and rape.  debian-vote contains defamation about Richard Stallman.Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz>  Debian Community News contains pictures of interns.  To an outsider, itSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> is all the same, it is all bad.  It is time for Debian to grow up,Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> delete these things and admit that a group of software developers is notSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> qualified to make such judgments about people.Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> There is no need to name anybody in such a statement: it would beSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> sufficient for you to admit that statements that have been made underSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> the Debian name or by people with Debian titles, whether in public or inSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> private, have been harmful to people's reputations, harmful to theSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> privacy of our families and that this is never acceptable and that allSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> such statements are retracted.Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> If you are not willing to cease and rollback these vendettas, pleaseSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> stop using the title /Leader/Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> Please remove defamation from the wiki, bug tracking system, blogs,Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> debian-private, search results, social media and the Git repositories.Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> Even an adverse entry in the Debian keyring is a smear, it is an act ofSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> defamation and therefore these repositories need to be rebased[1] toSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> remove any evidence that this ever happened to anybody.Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> During GSoC 2018, I received over 2,000 emails from interns and mentorsSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> and I also volunteered to spend a week in Kosovo with the interns there.Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz>  This was a very difficult period when I lost two family members and itSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> is unacceptable that people complained about this in 2018.  It isSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> unacceptable that people are still sending me complaints and queriesSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> about it 3 years later.  These things simply need to be erased.Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> This week I see news about the US in peace talks with the Taliban.  WhySep 04 00:31
schestowitz> is it that people in Debian don't talk to each other?Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> Regards,Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> Daniel PocockSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> --Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> Debian DeveloperSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> https://danielpocock.comSep 04 00:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-danielpocock.com | Daniel Pocock's personal blogSep 04 00:31
schestowitz> Sep 04 00:31
schestowitz> 1. https://www.itechcode.com/2020/09/22/how-to-remove-a-commit-in-git/Sep 04 00:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.itechcode.com | How to Remove a Commit in GitSep 04 00:32
schestowitzhttp://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/09/01/chairman-preparatory-committee-is-hopeful-start-unified-patent-court-will-not-be-delayed-by-brexit-complications/#commentsSep 04 00:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Chairman Preparatory Committee is hopeful start Unified Patent Court will not be delayed by Brexit complications - Kluwer Patent BlogSep 04 00:39
schestowitz"Sep 04 00:39
schestowitzCamparinosSep 04 00:39
schestowitzSEPTEMBER 1, 2021 AT 3:44 PMSep 04 00:39
schestowitzProponents of the UPC are re-interpreting Art89 UPCA to force it “into force”, while everybody knows that the 3rd state was always the UK:Sep 04 00:39
schestowitz“including the three Member States in which the highest number of European patents had effect in the year preceding the year in which the signature of the Agreement takes place”Sep 04 00:39
schestowitzIf the Secretariat of the Council declares this Treaty “into force” after Germany’s ratification, someone should complain of “maladministration” and bring this question to the CJEU.Sep 04 00:39
schestowitzThe PPI and PPA should not be ratified by other member states, as the UK is still mentioned in there. National Parliaments should rather send a request for renegotiation to the Council.Sep 04 00:39
schestowitzREPLYSep 04 00:39
schestowitzConcerned observerSep 04 00:39
schestowitzSEPTEMBER 1, 2021 AT 6:26 PMSep 04 00:39
schestowitzTalk about studiously avoiding the elephant in the room!Sep 04 00:39
schestowitzThe question of explicit references to the UK and London (in the UPCA and PPA) does indeed need to be “dealt with by the State Parties in accordance with international law”. However, this would mean crafting an entirely new UPCA and PPA. I therefore fail to understand why Mr Ramsay is “hopeful that this can be done in a pragmatic way that will avoid any further delay”.Sep 04 00:39
schestowitzIt is quite some feat to flatly contradict oneself in the space of two sentences. However, to simultaneously prioritise avoiding delay over avoiding a lack of proper legal basis really puts a metaphorical cherry on top.Sep 04 00:39
schestowitzREPLYSep 04 00:39
schestowitzAttentive ObserverSep 04 00:39
schestowitzSEPTEMBER 1, 2021 AT 9:21 PMSep 04 00:39
schestowitzIt is the first time that the Chairman acknowledges that Brexit is a problem which is to be solved before the UPC starts working. But he still ignores that the PPA mentions that UK has to agree in order for it to come into force.Sep 04 00:39
schestowitzHowever to claim that “This is a question that needs to be dealt with by the State Parties in accordance with international law” is absolutely non-committal.Sep 04 00:39
schestowitzIt would be interesting to see and hear what the position of the chair of the preparatory committee is.Sep 04 00:39
schestowitzBy not saying anything concrete it is thus possible to conclude that he agrees with the views expressed by some French and German lawyers: let’s provisionally transfer the duties allotted to London to Paris and/or Munich and use Art 87(2) UPCA to fix it later.Sep 04 00:39
schestowitzThe problem is that neither Art 31 nor Art 32 VCLT give what some State Parties want to see in Art 7(2) and Art 87(2) UPCA.Sep 04 00:39
schestowitzREPLYSep 04 00:39
schestowitzDont't pull my legSep 04 00:39
schestowitzSEPTEMBER 2, 2021 AT 12:49 PMSep 04 00:40
schestowitzAnother aspect which is clearly ignored: how can an international treaty setting up a jurisdiction in which EU law has primacy be in conformity with the latter when a judge from this jurisdiction can be removed from office without having a possibility of redress? See Art 10 of the statute of the court, which is also part of the UPCA.Sep 04 00:40
schestowitzAnd like at the EPO judges are only appointed for a certain length of time.Sep 04 00:40
schestowitzAnd those judges should be truly independent. See what is going on at the boards of appeal of the EPO.Sep 04 00:40
schestowitz"Sep 04 00:40
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