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schestowitz-TRthe ongoing EPO series will be 28+ parts, should I occasionally dump copies of progress on your SBC or no need?Oct 04 07:55
Techrights-secNo need but say when / if you do so I can add them to the offline backups.Oct 04 07:56
schestowitz-TRenergymix is in today's rss feeds. I'll see what proportion of it is relevant. i assume you have not yet applied the commit in git.Oct 04 08:25
schestowitz-TRre flatpak, years ago we complained about systemd dependency and they then removed this dependency, as I pointed out in IRCOct 04 08:28
Techrights-secTHe systemd dependency is still listed on their page.Oct 04 08:33
schestowitz-TRmaybe it was re-added, as I had worriedOct 04 08:34
Techrights-sec$ apt-cache depends flatpak | grep systemdOct 04 08:39
Techrights-sec  Depends: libsystemd0Oct 04 08:39
Techrights-sec  Recommends: libpam-systemdOct 04 08:39
Techrights-secand in the package for Ubuntu, same for DevuanOct 04 08:39
Techrights-secand Raspberry Pi OS Oct 04 08:39
Techrights-sec2104, Chimaera, and 10 for respective versions.Oct 04 08:39
schestowitz-TRso it was a false promise. noted!Oct 04 08:40
Techrights-secOr maybe they are finding it more entangled than they thought.Oct 04 08:44
Techrights-secOne of the things the systemd fanbois do is dig in a deeply as they canOct 04 08:44
Techrights-secas soon as permitted.Oct 04 08:44
schestowitzhttps://odysee.com/@AndreasSpiess:2/simple-trick-to-protect-your-raspberry:aOct 04 09:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Simple Trick to protect your Raspberry SD card from CrashingOct 04 09:00
schestowitz# gemini.techrights.org involves heavy disk writing, shortening the life ofOct 04 09:00
schestowitz# the microSD card.  The above does not have a solution but does serveOct 04 09:00
schestowitz# as a heads up about having a plan in place for replacing the microSD cardOct 04 09:00
schestowitz# on short notice; booting from an external SSD might be recommendedOct 04 09:00
schestowitzI make complete backups every now and thenOct 04 09:01
Techrights-sec... seeing as systemd is about political control over the distrosOct 04 09:01
Techrights-secprimarily.Oct 04 09:01
schestowitzx https://nitter.eu/vmwopensource/status/1333433179085156353#mOct 04 09:05
schestowitz# revisionismOct 04 09:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | VMware Open Source (@vmwopensource): "Why do we do #opensource? @DirkHH_VMware & @SwapBhartiya discuss on @tfir_io's "Conversations on Open Source": https://bit.ly/3obNDAC" | nitterOct 04 09:05
Techrights-secThe paranoid response is that file corruption can occur silently and Oct 04 09:08
Techrights-secmultiple backups are needed.  Oct 04 09:08
Techrights-secOnce EXT4 hits 80% - 90% full then there will be a lot of additional writesOct 04 09:08
Techrights-secalong with slower performance.Oct 04 09:08
schestowitz-TRvia the laptop, a snapshot is taken almost every month, then deleted as the drives are swapped around. if gemini usage keeps growing we might need to move the capsule off my home network.Oct 04 09:09
activelowschestowitz-TR: with flatpak systemd is optional, dbus is mandatoryOct 04 10:00
activelowthe problem is, it is defined as a compile-time option, and once compiled into it is a runtime dependency tooOct 04 10:04
schestowitz-TRactivelow: gmOct 04 10:05
schestowitz-TRI got this from a person who read itOct 04 10:05
schestowitzgemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/02/flatpak-viewpoint/Oct 04 10:06
schestowitz# interesting but neither it nor the wikipedia article actuallyOct 04 10:06
schestowitz# describe what a Flatpak is; A two or three line technical summaryOct 04 10:06
schestowitz# would help; aside from systemd dependencies, a deal-breaker IMO, it'sOct 04 10:06
schestowitz# not even clear from the official pages:Oct 04 10:06
schestowitz# https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/basic-concepts.htmlOct 04 10:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-docs.flatpak.org | Basic concepts — Flatpak documentationOct 04 10:06
schestowitz# https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/under-the-hood.htmlOct 04 10:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-docs.flatpak.org | Under the Hood — Flatpak documentationOct 04 10:06
schestowitz# see also : https://gavinhoward.com/2021/10/static-linking-considered-harmful-considered-harmful/Oct 04 10:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gavinhoward.com | "Static Linking Considered Harmful" Considered Harmful | Gavin D. HowardOct 04 10:06
schestowitz-TRwe checked furtherOct 04 10:06
schestowitz-TRon numerous distrosOct 04 10:06
schestowitz-TRit's still there with systemd depOct 04 10:06
schestowitz-TRcontrary to what red hat staff told me they would doOct 04 10:06
schestowitz-TRafter we had complainedOct 04 10:06
activelowdbus is at least as badOct 04 10:07
schestowitz-TRI am not sufficiently familiar with its issuesOct 04 10:09
schestowitz-TRbut I heardOct 04 10:09
activelowdbus is a systemd-related component, contrary to systemd dbus was not removed anywhere (except with my distro), and the issue with dbus first and foremost is it's presenceOct 04 10:10
schestowitz-TRwhat about kdbus?Oct 04 10:10
schestowitz-TRsame for kernel?Oct 04 10:10
schestowitz-TRlike kernel dbus?Oct 04 10:10
schestowitz-TRthere was a gkh controversy surrounding it, iircOct 04 10:11
schestowitz-TRbefore Torvalds become "window dressing"Oct 04 10:11
schestowitz-TR*becameOct 04 10:11
activelowAlan Cox resigned, and one of his remarks cited on wikipedia refers to kdbus too; currently kdbus isn't implemented in mainlineOct 04 10:12
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schestowitz-TRgive them time..Oct 04 10:16
schestowitz-TRsame for mshithubOct 04 10:16
schestowitz-TRthey also rusted and roasted linuxOct 04 10:16
schestowitz-TRthey try and retry until they run out of moneyOct 04 10:16
schestowitz-TRwhich is neverOct 04 10:16
schestowitz-TRGoogle even created 'security-theme front group for rustOct 04 10:16
Techrights-secThe move can only happen after the OS upgrade due to the script dependencies.Oct 04 10:28
Techrights-secSo if it has to move then maybe other options have to be explored.   Oct 04 10:28
Techrights-secBy the way moving to a location with a static IP address would allowOct 04 10:28
Techrights-secan A name for gemini.techrights.org and that would in turn allow a SRV recordOct 04 10:28
schestowitz-TRwe'll be pressing on with Europe/EPO/UPC issues this month, a very high priority and a blind spot (lack of coverage)Oct 04 10:29
schestowitz-TRExcellenbt that TR is covering it thenOct 04 10:51
Techrights-secExcellenbt that TR is covering it thenOct 04 10:51
Techrights-secThe EPO coverage is exceptionally important strategically for FOSSOct 04 11:12
schestowitz-TRIt is one aspect of many and one where we can help moreOct 04 11:13
schestowitz-TRmaybe I will try to publish each part around midnight, then videos around middayOct 04 11:14
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schestowitz-TRukraine talk requested almost 12k times now (the webm file), so well worth the time and effortOct 04 22:43
schestowitz-TRspamnil is shilling Microsoft again; latest view count in his youtube channel: 22 views  (video 2+ days ago), 13 view (3 days ago), 16 views (4 days ago). Number of "subs" in YouTube is meaningless.Oct 04 22:45
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