●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, November 04, 2021 ●● ● Nov 04 [00:12] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:12] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:16] *altlink_8d8 has quit (connection closed) [00:16] *altlink_40e (~altlink_40e@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 04 [01:02] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:07] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:39] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [01:52] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@9vib856syp9u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 04 [02:29] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [02:34] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@9vib856syp9u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 04 [03:43] *sears_hardware has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 04 [04:05] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@8nktzr4tv6njq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:24] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:30] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@9vib856syp9u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:55] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:56] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@9vib856syp9u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 04 [05:22] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Nov 04 [06:55] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:55] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 04 [07:22] schestowitz-TR Good, but keep in mind that all non-tech, non-sw patent topics are a distraction [07:22] schestowitz-TR and 'they' wanted to steer those distrations, especially sex, against, LT, too. [07:22] schestowitz-TR gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/03/github-ceo-resigns/ ● Nov 04 [08:55] schestowitz-TR this morning's IRC post was filed under "Site News" and the date was set to yesterday. I have changed the category to IRC but left date as is to avoid breaking links. ● Nov 04 [09:48] Techrights-sec The IRC post is a task that can be accurately fully automated and human [09:48] Techrights-sec involvement only introduces the occasional error at best. [09:48] schestowitz-TR With WordPress, it's a GUI. It got a lot worse with more recent branches of WordPress. ● Nov 04 [10:05] Techrights-sec I looked a while ago at their alleged API, it was more complicated than [10:05] Techrights-sec just trying to scrape the dame page. [10:05] Techrights-sec ^damn ● Nov 04 [11:01] *leah has quit (connection closed) [11:01] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:52] *sears_hardware (~search_social@akqta89mfqm5k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 04 [12:06] *wallacer has quit (Quit: wallace dozed off) [12:09] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:10] *wallacer has quit (Quit: wallace dozed off) [12:23] *leah has quit (connection closed) [12:23] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:26] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 04 [13:12] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:39] schestowitz Re: Podman and vendor lock-in [13:39] schestowitz > Hi Roy, [13:39] schestowitz > [13:39] schestowitz > I saw a number of your tweets on Podman and wonder if you would [13:39] schestowitz > elaborate on the claims that Podman would be a vendor lock-in. I am [13:39] schestowitz > reaching out via email since your Twitter account seems to be used for [13:39] schestowitz > broadcasting only. [13:40] schestowitz > [13:40] schestowitz > Note that I am a maintainer of Podman and work for Red Hat. But I am [13:40] schestowitz > currently on vacation, so this is only me reaching out to you as a [13:40] schestowitz > private person since I am curious on your thoughts. [13:40] schestowitz > [13:40] schestowitz > Kind regards, [13:40] schestowitz Hi, [13:40] schestowitz Thanks for reaching out. I installed Podman in Raspi OS about a year ago. It was apparent from the documentation that it was mostly a Red Hat thing, by design. Over time, the second-class citizen status of Debian might become more profound. [13:40] schestowitz Years ago, with flatpak, I pointed out that systemd was a hard dep. Red Hat assured me that it would be fixed, but not every OS I check it on (this year) shows that systemd is still a hard dep. [13:40] schestowitz I expect much of the same from ansible, podman, and the rest of the "IBM portfolio". [13:40] schestowitz That's just IBM being IBM. Jim Whitehurst left, as did many others (also managers), which tells me Red Hat isn't Red Hat anymore. [13:40] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:59] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 04 [14:38] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:38] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 04 [15:27] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:33] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@9vib856syp9u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:47] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:49] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [15:49] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [15:49] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021 [15:49] *schestowitz (~roy@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:49] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #boycottnovell schestowitz ● Nov 04 [16:02] schestowitz-TR 2-1 matching at the moment: [16:02] schestowitz-TR https://archive.org/donate?noscript=true [16:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-archive.org | Donate to the Internet Archive! [16:02] schestowitz-TR I've already donated very heavily to other projects this year so will have to [16:02] schestowitz-TR skip this round for the IA but hopefully some others can [16:02] Techrights-sec 2-1 matching at the moment: [16:02] Techrights-sec https://archive.org/donate?noscript=true [16:02] Techrights-sec I've already donated very heavily to other projects this year so will have to [16:02] Techrights-sec skip this round for the IA but hopefully some others can ● Nov 04 [18:05] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:05] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:06] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@jt3as7yarr89g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:15] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:15] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:16] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:37] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 04 [19:25] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:25] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:25] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:31] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:31] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:40] *leah has quit (connection closed) [19:41] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 04 [20:26] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uc58nh97gtnfa.irc) has joined #boycottnovell