●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, December 04, 2021 ●● ● Dec 04 [00:16] *altlink_99a has quit (connection closed) [00:16] *altlink_ce6 (~altlink_ce6@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [02:55] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [02:57] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Dec 04 [04:59] *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). ● Dec 04 [05:00] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [05:00] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [05:00] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021 [05:00] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:00] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:01] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [05:01] *schestowitz has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [05:01] *schestowitz__ (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [05:01] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [05:01] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [05:01] *asusbox2 (~rianne@joseon-ocvvqd.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [05:01] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [05:01] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@joseon-93555j.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [06:04] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:04] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:04] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [07:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [07:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:52] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:52] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:58] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:58] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [08:15] *altlink_ce6 has quit (connection closed) [08:15] *altlink_f5f (~altlink_f5f@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:33] schestowitz worth writing a parser for gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/index.gmi to make is more "proper" gemtext. do you already write something to that effect that I can reuse? [08:55] Techrights-sec Which file would be the source? [08:55] Techrights-sec It's easy enough to write but the question is where it fits in the work lfow [08:56] schestowitz-TR every 10 mins the raspi pulls it from TR server, using the ddos protection/alert program ● Dec 04 [09:11] *blitzed has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:15] Techrights-sec which script, it would be most efficient to add the conversion to the [09:15] Techrights-sec script or have it call a second script. that would reduce or eliminate [09:15] Techrights-sec any gaps in time where the gemini file is missing [09:15] Techrights-sec or not updated [09:16] schestowitz-TR /root/bin/log-tail.sh makes the text version on TR [09:18] schestowitz show-new-visitors-count.sh [09:19] Techrights-sec which pulls it to the RPi? [09:19] Techrights-sec thanks [09:19] Techrights-sec btw what is the official styling of the Techrights IRC network? [09:19] Techrights-sec the mentions of Freenode need to be chaned [09:19] Techrights-sec changed [09:20] schestowitz-TR is freenode still mentioned anywhere? [09:22] Techrights-sec $ grep -liR freenod ./*| wc -l [09:22] Techrights-sec 6 [09:22] Techrights-sec Yep. Many times in multiple files. [09:22] schestowitz-TR which machine/dir is that in? [09:27] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:27] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:27] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:29] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:29] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:31] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:48] Techrights-sec Git [09:53] schestowitz-TR i see [09:53] schestowitz-TR most are legacy dir name [09:53] schestowitz-TR for gemini it needs updating [09:53] Techrights-sec yes [09:55] schestowitz-TR pushed changes, deploying now [09:56] Techrights-sec looking at show-new-visitors-count.sh atm [09:56] Techrights-sec ack ● Dec 04 [10:27] *Redfoxmoon (~Red@joseon-41h.iim.kavont.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [11:02] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:02] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:07] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:07] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:07] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:18] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:18] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:19] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:22] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@7t7uh776ssmbs.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:35] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: bbl) [11:37] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@5rh5mmnxx482e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:48] Techrights-sec neither awk nor perl like the non-ASCII graphics in http://techrights.org/irc/ [11:48] Techrights-sec which script creates that file? [11:48] Techrights-sec the file in question is on TR as /home/boycottn/public_html/irc/log [11:48] Techrights-sec ls [11:48] Techrights-sec ./bin/log-tail.sh [11:48] schestowitz-TR if there is a chat compatibility issue, maybe we can leave that aside [11:48] schestowitz-TR maybe not worth the trouble [11:48] schestowitz-TR BT managed to break out home network again with a remote update ● Dec 04 [12:01] Techrights-sec Can the home router be moved to OpenWRT? [12:01] Techrights-sec # \N{U+2502} [12:01] Techrights-sec # \N{U+250C} [12:01] Techrights-sec # \N{U+2500} [12:01] Techrights-sec # \N{U+3016} [12:01] Techrights-sec # \N{U+3017} [12:02] schestowitz-TR it would hamper my ability to get support from them, and thus far I've not had any considerable downtime. When I do have more severe issues, I'll definitely consider consider reflashing one of the older routers [12:55] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:55] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:55] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Dec 04 [13:16] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:17] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:17] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:34] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: bbl) [13:56] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:56] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:56] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Dec 04 [14:02] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@ket9pi5gbeqcg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:02] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:02] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:02] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:17] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/irc/log.gmi [14:17] Techrights-sec should the handles remain right-justified? [14:17] Techrights-sec gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/ [14:22] Techrights-sec the times accidentally got indented but maybe that's ok [14:22] schestowitz-TR that looks great [14:23] schestowitz-TR sorry, was distracted [14:23] schestowitz-TR this morning bt f*ed up my network [14:23] schestowitz-TR and now a laptop ran out of battery because of bad wire, I forgot how to restart some stuff n it [14:23] Techrights-sec np [14:23] Techrights-sec :( [14:23] schestowitz-TR at least it happened on a weekend. [14:24] schestowitz-TR so now we have a gemini version and non-gemini version, which i suppose helps as the capsule gets accessed more and ultimately we want to spread gmi over gemini:// (there are stats related to this in lups) [14:24] schestowitz-TR *lupa [14:26] Techrights-sec Yes, The ./log-tail.sh script generates both [14:26] Techrights-sec tidying up redundant files outside of the core direcotries now [14:26] Techrights-sec should the http links be hot too? [14:27] schestowitz-TR might as well, I suppose that the page for IRC in http links to the correct gemini:// page already [14:27] schestowitz-TR let me add a proxy iframe [14:27] Techrights-sec * and https [14:30] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:30] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:30] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:33] schestowitz just added a portal/gateway to http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ [14:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC Channels | Techrights [14:34] Techrights-sec excellent [14:35] schestowitz-TR the n idea is to get more people less afraid of gemini and willing to look into it [14:35] schestowitz-TR tossing text files at it, I think, is a first step, gemtext is really what gives people a better impression with bookmarks and all [14:36] psydruid is anything known about a strategy to undermine the uptake of Gemini? [14:36] schestowitz I wrote about it [14:37] psydruid I know some shill was saying to me that the "internet isn't free" and "people should be expected to pay" [14:38] schestowitz but I cannot find what I wrote [14:38] schestowitz did many searches, cannot find it, just know it's there somewhere [14:39] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:39] Techrights-sec yes [14:40] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:40] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:49] Techrights-sec gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/ [14:49] Techrights-sec ok? [14:51] schestowitz-TR excellent! this is the kind of stuff we can do also in irc logs that are daily to make them more useful than text and almost on par with html. btw, worth adding tail-log.sh to git, assume we'll need change control? [14:51] schestowitz-TR I think you only appended lines to what was there before [14:53] Techrights-sec yes, just appended a line, after splitting a few long lines for readability [14:53] Techrights-sec probably set -e could be used instead of so many && [14:53] schestowitz-TR yes, but let's put in version control first in case rollback is needed for testing process [14:54] schestowitz-TR that can make it run more efficiently. it was very quick and dirty before, oned to be one line, in-line, in crontab [14:55] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:55] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:55] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:56] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:57] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:57] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [15:01] Techrights-sec should log-tail.sh be renames irc-log-tail.sh, or is it fine as-is? [15:01] schestowitz-TR might as well rename and add comments to it, if it is to be added to git. Then, the crontab for root needs changing to use the new name [15:02] Techrights-sec back in a while [15:38] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:39] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:39] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:54] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:54] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:55] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [16:02] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: bbl) [16:05] Techrights-sec ok pushed to Git [16:05] Techrights-sec an updated cron [16:05] schestowitz-TR excellent, thank you [16:05] schestowitz-TR I've just added a spam site. had 3 incidents today (THREE) to keep me down and slow things down, glad you had a more productive day [16:07] Techrights-sec np [16:07] Techrights-sec be sure to push the changes to Git, the spam filter helps a lot since [16:07] Techrights-sec there are too many junk sites to keep track of mentally [16:07] Techrights-sec let the computer do the work [16:08] schestowitz-TR to be fair, all those incidents were outside my control, I can only prepare for them better and try to prevent them. in xfce4 I set alerts for low batt. it was up for almost a year non-step. [16:08] schestowitz-TR non-top [16:08] schestowitz-TR non-stop [16:09] Techrights-sec batteries can drop off quickly especially in hot weather; I've had two die [16:09] Techrights-sec during the heat of two summers. [16:09] schestowitz-TR in this case the cord/wire/connecting part was at fault, as it's not so reliable when moved [16:14] Techrights-sec I had one that became so worn out that it could only be lifted in a certain [16:14] Techrights-sec way without powering off [16:15] schestowitz-TR I think it came off a bit when I hit it with a chair, now I check battery status more closely. It took a lot of time to restore all the processes. 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I'm not managing to post many articles lately, but will catch up. the rss feeds I look at have decreasing s/n ratio but dropping a lot would harm TM posts and TR Daily Links [16:38] schestowitz-TR I suppose next year will be worse [16:38] schestowitz-TR but the value of links will increase as a higher proportion of the www is just spamfarm and people need a cleaner set of links [16:40] schestowitz-TR today started with 3-hour downtime for gemini, due to BT, which leads to fatigue and lack of focus, like trying to do something useful after driving to work and back, 9-5 [16:45] Techrights-sec yes commutes are couner productivce not just during the time of the commute [16:45] Techrights-sec itself but also because of a substantial recovery period at either end [16:45] Techrights-sec even about 20 - 30 minutes of exercise is not quite enough at each end point [16:45] schestowitz-TR what better way to start coding after honking and dodging crazy drivers for 30 minutes...? [16:47] Techrights-sec worse, sitting stock still in the commute makes the brain sluggish too [16:47] Techrights-sec by the time you actually get to work, you are badly in need of movement [16:47] Techrights-sec even to be able to think [16:49] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:50] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:50] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:51] Techrights-sec In the US most commutes are far longer than 30 minutes in a car [16:51] Techrights-sec https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2021/one-way-travel-time-to-work-rises.html [16:51] Techrights-sec \ [16:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.census.gov | Census Bureau Estimates Show Average One-Way Travel Time to Work Rises [16:52] schestowitz-TR and to get the "big salaries" you must live in super-expensive and congested areas [16:54] Techrights-sec "you aren't in a traffic jam, you are the traffic jam" [16:56] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:57] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:57] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [17:54] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: ttyl) ● Dec 04 [18:34] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@75s5997cwfxuk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:36] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: brb) [18:37] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@e56aqnyrpnfiu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:40] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: Goodbye) [18:40] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:40] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:40] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:50] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:50] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:52] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [19:54] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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