●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, December 04, 2022 ●● ● Dec 04 [00:24] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:52] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [00:57] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-mbc.2re.5ld4fl.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [01:49] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@c4e9t8mshv26s.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [02:37] Techrightssec Sometime soon we could consider moving the DNS entry for tuxmachines.org to [02:37] Techrightssec point to the new site and have a new name, old.tuxmachines.org or similar, to [02:37] Techrightssec point to the old site and then monitor the http errors (e.g. 404) to see what [02:37] Techrightssec if anything still needs to be ported over. ● Dec 04 [03:03] schestowitz-TR yes, tuxmachines needs further work, for sure... [03:03] schestowitz-TR I need to think what DNS can do to help, without breaking any existing links [03:03] schestowitz-TR as that would render a lot of "historic" articles, even distro reviews, orphaned or deranked [03:03] schestowitz-TR distrowatch still links to many [03:03] schestowitz-TR regarding "digital skills" [03:03] schestowitz-TR it's a buzzwords pair of sorts [03:03] schestowitz-TR like "IT" [03:03] schestowitz-TR that typically accompanies BS talk [03:03] schestowitz-TR and things like, "bank won't give you your balance, DOWNLOAD THE APP... Oh, and get a spyphone too" [03:42] schestowitz-TR phone ownership = consumerism, sales [03:42] schestowitz-TR library, books = "piracy", poverty (interfering with monopolies' way of controlling knowledge) [03:53] Techrightssec Any ideas about how to ensure that existing links are not broken? [03:53] Techrightssec I would guess that looking at the logs for items which are not redirected [03:53] Techrightssec or links to the new site which have no corresponding document would be one [03:53] Techrightssec way. If there are any and if there is a pattern then that could be addressed. [03:53] Techrightssec With the stumbling that WordPress has been doing lately, I would suggest tht [03:53] Techrightssec the move be prioritized. [03:53] Techrightssec Right now four+ systems are maintained. Lowering that to three+ would be [03:53] Techrightssec helpful, I think. [03:55] schestowitz-TR redirections are not advisable [03:55] schestowitz-TR for several reasons [03:55] schestowitz-TR this is what makes things a bit trickier [03:55] schestowitz-TR also, in drupal a page is not just a single object, there can be subpages and more [03:57] Techrightssec Ok. Then, without redirections, we can check what remains on the old site. [03:57] Techrightssec I don't think that it's feasible to maintain the old site indefinitely. That's [03:57] Techrightssec way too much overhead. [03:58] schestowitz-TR a CMS like that is in some sense the mistake [03:58] schestowitz-TR lotsof things that over the course of 20 years become hard to keep going ● Dec 04 [04:03] Techrightssec Anwyay, would it be possible to have old.tuxmachines.org point to 23.161.112.115 [04:03] Techrightssec for now? That would allow some additional options. [04:03] Techrightssec For many use-cases SQLite is more than enough. I have been seeing a lot of [04:03] Techrightssec blog posts lately, relatively speaking, about people moving from a CMS to [04:03] Techrightssec something smaller and often based on a set of homemade scripts (e.g. Python with [04:03] Techrightssec Flask) and SQLite. [04:04] schestowitz-TR going to add to dns in a few mins [04:04] schestowitz-TR rianne thinks the following was inspired by us [04:04] schestowitz-TR as it's very very very similar and came just 12 or so hours after going public: [04:04] schestowitz http://www.mardy.it/blog/2022/12/leaving-canonical-again.html [04:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.mardy.it | Leaving Canonical, again | Mardy [04:09] Techrightssec ack [04:12] schestowitz-TR added [04:13] Techrightssec thanks! [04:39] Techrightssec Just a glance at the old logs suggest that there is heavy bot traffic [04:53] Techrightssec The main page of the legacy site could use a more clear pointer or even [04:53] Techrightssec redirection to the new site: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node [04:53] Techrightssec The "Quick Roundup" points to articles from the summer rather than to [04:53] Techrightssec news.tuxmachines.org [04:53] Techrightssec Perhaps the 'gallery' would be the easiest to move next. [04:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle? [04:55] schestowitz-TR will be away from home some of the day [04:55] schestowitz-TR gallery can be move, it uses a DB from the container of the DBs ● Dec 04 [06:49] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [06:50] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@3f4eq2qd8h8ka.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:59] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:59] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Dec 04 [07:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [07:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@3f4eq2qd8h8ka.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:06] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Dec 04 [10:11] Techrightssec Can the gallery be converted to static HTML and preserved that way? [10:11] Techrightssec Restarted httpd and mysqld on tm-old [10:11] Techrightssec mysqld was hogging the CPU; however that has not helped and the load is back [10:11] Techrightssec immediatelky [10:11] Techrightssec HTTP traffic is not heavy though [10:13] schestowitz-TR gallery has stuff like zoom [10:13] schestowitz-TR but since nothing is being added I guess it is possible to experiment with DB-less [10:13] schestowitz-TR the past 2 days tm-old had that pattern we run the script for [10:13] schestowitz-TR it is running at my end, so no need for manual intervention [10:55] Techrightssec ack [10:56] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [10:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [11:33] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@62qd2frwn6f88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:52] schestowitz-TR i installed gallry1, 2 and 3 in my personal site [11:52] schestowitz-TR it's not so bad, the software is quite reliable [11:52] schestowitz-TR I had to write some hacks or worksrounds for newer php versions [11:53] Techrightssec Should the whole Gallery set up be moved to the new machine or would a [11:53] Techrightssec static mirror be adequate? [11:55] schestowitz-TR linking is done to images rather than pages sometimes [11:55] schestowitz-TR the db stays as is [11:55] schestowitz-TR the server needs php (not sure range of compat) and that's abbout it [11:55] schestowitz-TR imagemagick and such would not be needed if we upload nothing further to process [11:56] Techrightssec Imagemagick is used in TM for images accompanying new posts on tm-new. ● Dec 04 [12:00] schestowitz-TR yes, i had that in mind, but the good news is, no need for heavy db to be installed [12:00] schestowitz-TR php connected to one on the local network [12:00] schestowitz-TR but that might still meean it needs db-client, not db-server (host) [12:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [12:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [13:03] Techrightssec ack [13:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:27] schestowitz-TR 30mins [13:27] Techrightssec ack [13:57] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [13:58] schestowitz-TR whose host? [13:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [14:06] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:06] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:57] Techrightssec ack ● Dec 04 [15:12] schestowitz-TR did you see the blog post about hoping blogging+rss would gain rather than mastodon? [15:12] schestowitz-TR i think gruber wrote it [15:12] schestowitz-TR kotke is also back (blogging, not tweet shit) [15:12] schestowitz-TR after a long break [15:12] schestowitz-TR iirc, david winer was the first "blogger" with rss [15:21] Techrightssec yes, it was good [15:21] Techrightssec afaik it is the links for yesterday or today [15:21] Techrightssec excellent [15:21] Techrightssec There was a blogger from the middle East who wrote about 10 years ago about [15:21] Techrightssec the sad state of blogging; He had just gotten released from prison at the [15:21] Techrightssec height of social control media but had gone in a the (first) peak of blogs. [15:21] Techrightssec THe contrast before and after his time in jail was tremendous and shocking. [15:21] Techrightssec Now the world has the chance to restore a little dignity and self-determination [15:21] Techrightssec to written communication by blogging. Since most CMSs have RSS or Atom capabilities, that is a further advantage. [15:24] schestowitz-TR a theory of mine [15:24] schestowitz-TR which is based on or inspired by thigns are read [15:24] schestowitz-TR is that the ad industry, and the biggest spy/advertiser (google) [15:24] schestowitz-TR worked to slowly kill rss without making it seem so [15:24] schestowitz-TR e.g. remove rss from browser [15:24] schestowitz-TR making it look scary [15:24] schestowitz-TR buy feedburner [15:24] schestowitz-TR than burn it [15:24] schestowitz-TR offer google reader to kill similar competition likle feedlounge ()I was beta tester) [15:24] schestowitz-TR oerating at a LOSS [15:24] schestowitz-TR then shutting down google reader [15:24] schestowitz-TR all seems like irrational behaviour [15:24] schestowitz-TR than hiding rss from some google page like GulgaNoise [15:24] schestowitz-TR and blogs too [15:24] schestowitz-TR making those seem like they're no longer applicable [15:24] schestowitz-TR for advertisers (Google also) it helps [15:24] schestowitz-TR because of JS etc. [15:25] schestowitz-TR also, experiments with in-rss ads failed [15:25] schestowitz-TR those were done a lot around 2005 [15:25] schestowitz-TR like alex kind (wordpresS) [15:25] schestowitz-TR trying to monetise their readers over rss [15:25] schestowitz-TR people who would not open actual 'web' pages (scripts) [15:30] Techrightssec RSS is not filterable by Google, nor is it easy to interject advertising [15:30] Techrightssec and tracking like with the various "frameworks". Those two aspects are *so* [15:30] Techrightssec central to Google's activities, that they have forced a rewriting of the HTTP [15:30] Techrightssec spec to accomodate both as well as javascript-based ad auctions during initial [15:30] Techrightssec loading of the pages prior to rendering. RSS and Atom are good as they are [15:30] Techrightssec and do not need further extension, if they support Dublin Core. The only [15:30] Techrightssec area work is needed is in the modules supporing both. ● Dec 04 [18:35] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Dec 04 [19:16] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@a9wf8v67hqmqg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [21:23] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [21:39] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-aee.gkf.1d49bf.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 04 [22:36] schestowitz-TR New Paper: Autopsy-based Histopathological Characterization of Myocarditis After Anti-SARS-CoV-2-Vaccination https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/04/autopsy-study-germany/ [22:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive New Paper: Autopsy-based Histopathological Characterization of Myocarditis After Anti-SARS-CoV-2-Vaccination [22:50] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:50] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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