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[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	">> I have read everything and can relate only to one side. IME, social
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	>> control media lead to combative, impolite and unproductive exchanges,
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	>> to be lost forever less than a week later.
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	> *nod*, it's not a bad ground on which to try things out that might not
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	> work so well.  I was hopeful that showing that person a mirror image of
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	> his own, while pointing out very clearly incorrect readings of quoted
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	> passages, might bring him to reason, but...  no such luck.
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	>
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	> It's not like we can have much hope of convincing those who have been
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	> dragged into the cult already.  Carl Sagan has a famous quote about
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	> that: "One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If weve been
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	> bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle.
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	> Were no longer interested in finding out the truth.  The bamboozle has
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	> captured us."  But that hasn't stopped me from trying it out, sometimes
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	> in the hopes of convincing witnesses of the conversation.  But this one
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	> turned out so ugly that I doubt it would have convinced anyone :-(
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	Since you invoked Sagan and reason/atheism (perhaps), they also say aim for the "fence sitters", the undecided, the unsure. They sit quietly on the sides and watch before making up their minds. "