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schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> [JAMA Health Forum] Long Covid is associated with significantly increased risk of death, heart and lung problems, study finds ☞ https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/03/health/long-covid-health-consequences/index.htmlMar 05 04:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Long Covid is associated with significantly increased risk of death, heart and lung problems, study finds | CNNMar 05 04:00
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schestowitz-pi2sorry, got distracted as I needed to reboot a machineMar 05 05:08
schestowitz-pi2x org can be sensitive to dragging of windowsMar 05 05:08
schestowitz-pi2maybe the GPUMar 05 05:08
schestowitz-pi2a reboot after 50 daysMar 05 05:08
schestowitz-pi2gonna post daily links shortlyMar 05 05:08
schestowitz-pi2the workflow is now vastly betterMar 05 05:08
schestowitz-pi2but I'm not so used to it yetMar 05 05:08
schestowitz-pi2tomorrow the fish will have been in the hospital for 2 whole weeksMar 05 05:08
schestowitz-pi2still swimming sometimes, but not most of the timeMar 05 05:08
schestowitz-pi2today will be a busy day and we leave hom in an hour (foods)Mar 05 05:08
schestowitz-pi2should I relay your remarks on the article?Mar 05 05:08
schestowitz-pi2i agreeMar 05 05:15
schestowitz-pi2i agreeMar 05 05:20
schestowitz-pi2there are some bits left about it in logs, with names and places removedMar 05 05:20
schestowitz-pi2i did redact as best i could Mar 05 05:20
schestowitz-pi2the wipo protest site alsoMar 05 05:20
schestowitz-pi2and siriusMar 05 05:20
techrights[sec]checkingMar 05 05:35
schestowitz-pi2it was past midnight today, so next log cycleMar 05 05:36
schestowitz-pi2it is logged by the machine i needed to rebootMar 05 05:36
schestowitz-pi2i need to make an inventory of what to start on itMar 05 05:36
schestowitz-pi2some cannot be automatedMar 05 05:36
schestowitz-pi2as it's cli processesMar 05 05:37
schestowitz-pi2like tails-irc.shMar 05 05:37
schestowitz-pi2*tailMar 05 05:37
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techrights[sec]Letting reddit frame m$ as a 'religious' choice is an attack, an attempt atMar 05 05:54
techrights[sec]removing the debate from the realm of facts and ethics over to that of Mar 05 05:54
techrights[sec]opinions and preferences.  Objectively, m$ is a bad choice in several meaningsMar 05 05:54
techrights[sec]of the word. Mar 05 05:54
techrights[sec]m$ does act as a cult but Andy does not let that distract him from ethical   Mar 05 05:54
techrights[sec]objections which top off technical, econimic, and legal reasons to avoid m$Mar 05 05:54
schestowitz-pi2yes, i mentioned a lot the reddit angleMar 05 05:55
schestowitz-pi2gonna leave in 30 minsMar 05 05:55
schestowitz-pi2racing to finish some tasks firstMar 05 05:55
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schestowitz-pi2saved about 100gbp againMar 05 09:41
schestowitz-pi2lisa and her van were back againMar 05 09:41
schestowitz-pi2missing last weekMar 05 09:42
schestowitz-pi2not expired, just orphaned cargoMar 05 09:42
schestowitz-pi2got 8 large packs of protein bars -- those are very expensive and very good dietMar 05 09:42
schestowitz-pi2gonna catch up nowMar 05 09:42
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schestowitz-pi2i cluster wires into 'braidsMar 05 11:46
schestowitz-pi2with twisted metal stripsMar 05 11:46
schestowitz-pi2and try to put them away from sight Mar 05 11:46
schestowitz-pi2some can be made to go near or beneath itemsMar 05 11:46
schestowitz-pi2so that they are barely visibleMar 05 11:46
schestowitz-pi2cords don't bother meMar 05 11:46
schestowitz-pi2today i saw a nice-looking "gaming" mouse for 5 quidMar 05 11:46
schestowitz-pi2didn't take it at the endMar 05 11:46
schestowitz-pi2as i don't know the brandMar 05 11:46
schestowitz-pi2and it might turns out to last 2 months, not 2 yearsMar 05 11:46
schestowitz-pi2or 2 weeksMar 05 11:46
schestowitz-pi2no return policyMar 05 11:46
schestowitz-pi2on another topic, the new workflow is very pleasing and it's getting simpler for me to grasp mentallyMar 05 11:55
schestowitz-pi2after 20 years of more or less the same thing every dayMar 05 11:55
schestowitz-pi2when returning home we typically put in supermarkets' sites the items we found to assess the savingsMar 05 11:55
schestowitz-pi2the high-protien products are best bang/buck or bang/wdightMar 05 11:55
schestowitz-pi2we must have "saved" about 150 pounds on just the protiein barsMar 05 11:55
schestowitz-pi2most of them fit inmy backpackMar 05 11:56
schestowitz-pi2but i took all there was in stockMar 05 11:56
schestowitz-pi2some days there's none to be found, irrepsective of priceMar 05 11:56
schestowitz-pi2and vendors come and goMar 05 11:56
schestowitz-pi2or start sucking, depending on their supplier'sMar 05 11:56
schestowitz-pi2so you need to recognise the faces of people, there are hundreds of stallsMar 05 11:56
schestowitz-pi2no persistent slot at timesMar 05 11:56
schestowitz-pi2we now have a reserve of about 50kg in pasta, grain etc.Mar 05 11:56
techrights[sec]Excellent!Mar 05 11:56
schestowitz-pi2we stock up not on the cheap stuff, just heavily discounted premium productsMar 05 12:00
schestowitz-pi2and in a decade we saw one mouse, only once, and he left on his ownMar 05 12:00
schestowitz-pi2we very very seldon let food spoil. very rare. rianne has a mental overview of the inventory.Mar 05 12:00
schestowitz-pi2and can be creative in mixing it. buckwheat and kabanos today (very east european)Mar 05 12:00
schestowitz-pi2she even found vegetarian kabanos, i think they're like 80-90% off original priceMar 05 12:00
schestowitz-pi2https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/eu-cra-secure-coding-solution/Mar 05 12:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-berthub.eu | The EU's new Cyber Resilience Act is about to tell us how to code - Bert Hubert's writingsMar 05 12:02
schestowitz-pi2i look at this a third timeMar 05 12:02
schestowitz-pi2tbh, i am not familr enough with it to say something insightfulMar 05 12:02
schestowitz-pi2but we covered the similar "supply chain" plotMar 05 12:02
schestowitz-pi2*ployMar 05 12:02
schestowitz-pi2in the USMar 05 12:02
schestowitz-pi2where they try to complicate things for Free s/wMar 05 12:02
schestowitz-pi2in the name of "protecting" usMar 05 12:02
schestowitz-pi2and mention log4j a lotMar 05 12:02
schestowitz-pi2because 2021 is just 2 months ago ;-)Mar 05 12:02
schestowitz-pi2and heartbleed was last weekMar 05 12:02
schestowitz-pi2found by google engineerMar 05 12:03
schestowitz-pi2advertised by microsoftersMar 05 12:03
schestowitz-pi2for fud's wortthMar 05 12:03
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techrights[sec]RMS and Perens are needed for input, but the former was cancelled, perhapsMar 05 12:10
techrights[sec]in preparation for all the politics which are now in the works.Mar 05 12:10
techrights[sec]Without RMS, the rest at the FSF need to step up, if they have an interestMar 05 12:10
techrights[sec]in maintaining software Freedom.  Mar 05 12:10
schestowitz-pi2any person who can maintain the goalMar 05 12:15
schestowitz-pi2and get "shit done"Mar 05 12:15
schestowitz-pi2will be described as extremistMar 05 12:15
schestowitz-pi2"religious" Mar 05 12:15
schestowitz-pi2unfit for the roleMar 05 12:15
schestowitz-pi2"NOT GOOD FOR FUND RAISING"Mar 05 12:15
schestowitz-pi2I'd not even submit a talk to libreplanetMar 05 12:15
schestowitz-pi2and in a prior article I explained whyMar 05 12:15
schestowitz-pi2(i don't counder myself to be outlandish, but in a cowardly society any "misfit" or "outlier" stands out)Mar 05 12:16
schestowitz-pi2in reddit, from what you showed me, saying that gnu/linux works better than osux gets you ['flagged]Mar 05 12:16
schestowitz-pi2bakkt="success story" that zemlin brags about in his talk even AFTER the collapse (ponzi)Mar 05 12:16
schestowitz-pi2putting gnu on 100 million servers and desktops is "SUPPLY CHAIN CRISIS"Mar 05 12:16
schestowitz-pi2in the eyes of people who control panels, news, politicians, etc.Mar 05 12:16
schestowitz-pi2and hold jimmy by the b0lls while stuffing him with potatoesMar 05 12:16
schestowitz-pi2KabanOSMar 05 12:16
schestowitz-pi2look up "kaban"Mar 05 12:16
techrights[sec]Yes, reddit only masquerades as a tech forum and is a severe source of Mar 05 12:16
techrights[sec]misinformation, disinformation, and FUD against FOSs of all stripes, but Mar 05 12:16
techrights[sec]especially against GNU and GNU.LinuxMar 05 12:16
schestowitz-pi2this is the source of [Reseach] that Breddit Robertson keeps bragging aboutMar 05 12:18
schestowitz-pi2while uttering all the talking points against what saner users wantMar 05 12:18
schestowitz-pi2and posing as leet because "arch" and "tilting WM"Mar 05 12:18
schestowitz-pi2in a war of words the rules are differentMar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2money _can_ win, but not alwaysMar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2it gets to the point where paying t o win on ideas Mar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2it too much and too risky (blowback)Mar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2in the case of patents, pieter said that raising the lobbying bills of evil forces to the pointMar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2where they walk away from the table is the only warMar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2*wayMar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2bar transformation of the political systemMar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2team upc does a ton of lobbying, we don'tMar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2they also control the mediaMar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2tons of propaganda outlets disguised as news siteMar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2*sitesMar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2reddit is passing the labour costs to people like BredditMar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2who are using youtube to relay the BSMar 05 12:24
techrights[sec]Same for YouTube, you will get demonetized for promoting GNU/Linux and maybeMar 05 12:24
techrights[sec]even banned.Mar 05 12:24
techrights[sec]Quite few sites fit that description.Mar 05 12:24
techrights[sec]Yes that seems to be were he get a lot of BS fromMar 05 12:24
schestowitz-pi2reddit already wweeded out all the "greybeards" and "neckbeards" who can give a substantialMar 05 12:26
schestowitz-pi2response and counter-point Mar 05 12:26
schestowitz-pi2which leaves idiots with "social justice warrior" as a reddit flairMar 05 12:26
schestowitz-pi2to turf the spaceMar 05 12:26
schestowitz-pi2after failing onen phd and exploring anotrher... in a completely unrelated discplineMar 05 12:26
techrights[sec]PreciselyMar 05 12:27
schestowitz-pi2i noticed that about reddit in 2007 alreadyMar 05 12:29
schestowitz-pi2not 2017Mar 05 12:29
schestowitz-pi2novell turfingMar 05 12:29
schestowitz-pi2against BNMar 05 12:29
schestowitz-pi2and microsofters joining them Mar 05 12:29
schestowitz-pi2ganging up in commentsMar 05 12:29
schestowitz-pi2for bagel bill and ron hovsepianMar 05 12:29
schestowitz-pi2whomm I've not received letters from in a long timeMar 05 12:29
schestowitz-pi2must have taken a short break from his home swimming sessionMar 05 12:29
schestowitz-pi2to ask some attorney to pester with meMar 05 12:29
schestowitz-pi2speaking of which, the 'founder' of sirius is working 16-hour shifts nowMar 05 12:32
schestowitz-pi2trying to save the company all in his ownMar 05 12:32
schestowitz-pi2while clients are fleeingMar 05 12:32
schestowitz-pi2and debt cannot be repaidMar 05 12:32
schestowitz-pi2serves him right... karmaMar 05 12:32
schestowitz-pi2the current pension provider was repeatedly warned not to do anything he asks forMar 05 12:32
schestowitz-pi2while we still investigate the prior oneMar 05 12:32
schestowitz-pi2standard life must be handling pensions of like 10 million peopleMar 05 12:32
schestowitz-pi2so it's a potentially huge scandalMar 05 12:32
techrights[sec]Wow.  Mar 05 12:43
schestowitz-pi2my friend whom you saw in the photograph spoke in length about thisMar 05 12:45
schestowitz-pi250% of his salay goes to pensionMar 05 12:45
schestowitz-pi2he had about 4-5 pensions already, one for each past employerMar 05 12:45
schestowitz-pi2he's vested in standard lifeMar 05 12:45
schestowitz-pi2to retire in 3.5 years (55)Mar 05 12:45
schestowitz-pi2he told me to accuse them of "theft"Mar 05 12:45
schestowitz-pi2but that's just semanticsMar 05 12:45
schestowitz-pi2I said to their managers something to that effect twice alreadyMar 05 12:45
schestowitz-pi2my colleagues don't even get as far as the managementMar 05 12:45
techrights[sec]I suspect that there might be a very specific term or phrase which willMar 05 12:47
techrights[sec]launch major action against them if it is raised, but a big question isMar 05 12:47
techrights[sec]what (legally speaking) that actual phrase is.  In many cases you have toMar 05 12:47
techrights[sec]use the exact term, I expect, if it is like dealing with banks or airlines.Mar 05 12:47
techrights[sec]Of by a bit in the phrasing and they won't lift a finger and they certainly Mar 05 12:47
techrights[sec]won't ever volunter information.  Mar 05 12:47
schestowitz-pi2yes, this was brought up in the car this paast wedsMar 05 12:49
schestowitz-pi2and it's even worse when the person calling is a widowMar 05 12:49
schestowitz-pi2or a childMar 05 12:49
schestowitz-pi2and there is even less certainty or hard proof to press withMar 05 12:49
schestowitz-pi2so he gave his partner a list of all the pensionMar 05 12:49
schestowitz-pi2i kept all the paperworkMar 05 12:49
schestowitz-pi2from hem and payslipMar 05 12:49
schestowitz-pi2that's not enoighMar 05 12:49
schestowitz-pi2*enoughMar 05 12:49
schestowitz-pi2when a colleague asked the company, siriusMar 05 12:49
schestowitz-pi2they did not even reply!Mar 05 12:50
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> "Fizz, a social media app where members of the Emory University community can anonymously publish text posts, polls and photos." ☞ https://emorywheel.com/sga-presidential-candidates-respond-to-title-ix-misogyny-discourse-on-fizz/ APP??Mar 05 14:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-emorywheel.com | SGA presidential candidates respond to Title IX, misogyny discourse on Fizz | The Emory WheelMar 05 14:09
techrights[sec]gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/05/windows-share-lockdowns/Mar 05 14:34
techrights[sec]It would be useful in such posts to remind about the role that monopoly rentsMar 05 14:34
techrights[sec]play and that they are now way below the market threshold at which they Mar 05 14:34
techrights[sec]are possible.  In other words, the balloon is deflating.Mar 05 14:34
techrights[sec]RapidlyMar 05 14:34
techrights[sec]Look for another .gov bailout / handout soon.Mar 05 14:34
techrights[sec]How much longer before the nations cannot avoid addressing the EPO? Mar 05 14:34
techrights[sec]It is complicated by Germany's conflict of interest in regards to income.Mar 05 14:34
schestowitz-pi2got epo materialMar 05 14:35
schestowitz-pi2will do daily links _quickly_Mar 05 14:35
schestowitz-pi2and leap to epoMar 05 14:35
schestowitz-pi2catching up, sorry for thatMar 05 14:35
schestowitz-pi2i _did_ think about mentioning the monopoly rents in that post ^_^Mar 05 14:35
schestowitz-pi2but did not at the endMar 05 14:35
schestowitz-pi2i think TR does show some positive news for usMar 05 14:35
schestowitz-pi2to keep morale higherMar 05 14:35
schestowitz-pi2as for epo, what makes me hopeful is the dissentMar 05 14:35
schestowitz-pi2maybe a breaking point soonMar 05 14:35
techrights[sec]It's often ignore and more often not even recognized.Mar 05 14:36
schestowitz-pi2epo staff are, in general, smart peopleMar 05 14:39
schestowitz-pi2most are examinersMar 05 14:39
schestowitz-pi2which makes them easy to work 'forMar 05 14:39
schestowitz-pi2or 'with'Mar 05 14:39
schestowitz-pi2i'm hopeful that all this union-busting ("Bringing Teams Together")Mar 05 14:39
schestowitz-pi2will make the whole house of cards collapseMar 05 14:39
schestowitz-pi2stakeholders are upsetMar 05 14:39
schestowitz-pi2Team UPC spent a lot on "lobbying" and bribing/grooming mediaMar 05 14:39
schestowitz-pi2and we'll 'crash' their fake 'court'Mar 05 14:39
techrights[sec]As far as the management component there at the EPO goes, there needs to beMar 05 14:39
techrights[sec]100% turn over with no connection at all between the incoming and outgoingMar 05 14:39
techrights[sec]management.Mar 05 14:39
techrights[sec]The staff are mostly good as far as I can tell but not the managementMar 05 14:39
schestowitz-pi2no, a lot of the important staff left years agoMar 05 14:41
schestowitz-pi2and isn't coming backMar 05 14:41
schestowitz-pi2now there are many type ZsMar 05 14:41
schestowitz-pi2and they are not to blameMar 05 14:41
schestowitz-pi2they just want to make a livingMar 05 14:41
libertybox_https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/GinaMacina60/status/1632374614184669187#mMar 05 14:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.lacontrevoie.fr | Gina Macina 🇨🇦 (@GinaMacina60): "⛳️Wikileaks/CableGate reveals Bill Gates Microsoft worked closely with governments. 🟥Microsoft gives them access to source code. 🟥“US embassy cables: China uses access to Microsoft source code to help plot cyber warfare, US fears” http://techrights.org/2010/12/06/microsoft-topsec-in-china/ https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632374614184669187" | La Contre-VoieMar 05 14:41
libertybox_https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/Wireshark777/status/1632291190795272192#mMar 05 14:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.lacontrevoie.fr | mojo #1776 🇺🇸 #Free Assange (@Wireshark777): "http://techrights.org/2019/12/17/gates-secrets-gatekeeper/ https://theirishsentinel.com/2020/08/10/depopulation-through-forced-vaccination-the-zero-carbon-solution/" | La Contre-Voie - nitterMar 05 14:41
schestowitz-pi2hilly-billy attracting attention to himself againMar 05 14:42
schestowitz-pi2there is a price to be paidMar 05 14:42
techrights[sec]AhMar 05 14:45
techrights[sec]Then maybe the whole thing needs a starting over, fresh from the beginning.Mar 05 14:45
techrights[sec]A strong reason to harp on about monopoly rents is to kill the myth that m$ Mar 05 15:03
techrights[sec]makes its money from OEM "sales" of Windows or MSO.  The sales drive the    Mar 05 15:03
techrights[sec]monopoly in the case of Windows and the monopoly in turn provides income  Mar 05 15:03
techrights[sec](though not necessarily enough to make a profit)  With MSO, it is the monopolyMar 05 15:03
techrights[sec]on the file formats which drive the monopoly rents Mar 05 15:03
techrights[sec](though again not necessarily enough to make a profit there either)Mar 05 15:03
techrights[sec]Either way, there is a myth falsely glorifying the company and their productsMar 05 15:03
techrights[sec]It goes along with the conflation of common with popular.  M$ may be commonMar 05 15:03
techrights[sec]but it is certainly not popular and is indeed the reason that most people Mar 05 15:04
techrights[sec]absolutely hate "computers" since they have no experience with real operatingMar 05 15:04
techrights[sec]systems or real software.Mar 05 15:04
schestowitz-pi2can i reuse and edit your words for a later post?Mar 05 15:12
schestowitz-pi2btw, zdnet is next after cnetMar 05 15:12
schestowitz-pi2layoffs, management canned, spamMar 05 15:12
schestowitz-pi2zdnet very quiet lately Mar 05 15:12
schestowitz-pi2the clock is ticking on themMar 05 15:12
techrights[sec]Paraphrasing or expanding would be best if possible,Mar 05 15:50
techrights[sec]I would not be surprised if ZDNet finally went away, they have been deinvestingMar 05 15:50
techrights[sec]for ages.  For all practical purposes there is nothing left now.Mar 05 15:50
schestowitz-pi2the genral approach isMar 05 15:57
schestowitz-pi21) collect infoMar 05 15:57
schestowitz-pi22) improve argumentsMar 05 15:57
schestowitz-pi23) change the public debateMar 05 15:57
schestowitz-pi24) media joins our sideMar 05 15:57
schestowitz-pi25) opponents perish or change behaviourMar 05 15:57
schestowitz-pi2for EPO we're trying (4)Mar 05 15:57
schestowitz-pi2some media DID cover the latest EPO scandalsMar 05 15:58
schestowitz-pi2EPO is a monopoly and not accounrableMar 05 15:58
schestowitz-pi2working on epo post atmMar 05 15:58
schestowitz-pi2the fish has diedMar 05 17:00
schestowitz-pi2after 2 weeksMar 05 17:00
schestowitz-pi2but i was expecting this, due to lack of eatingMar 05 17:00
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