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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/trprecht/status/1180177646413647874\ | Oct 05 01:06 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@trprecht: @BrideOfLinux I mostly disagree. The first point and small elements of others can be agreed on. This is mostly a fa… https://t.co/dbhOWsmebe | Oct 05 01:06 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@trprecht: @BrideOfLinux I mostly disagree. The first point and small elements of others can be agreed on. This is mostly a fa… https://t.co/dbhOWsmebe | Oct 05 01:06 | |
| schestowitz | "I mostly disagree. The first point and small elements of others can be agreed on. This is mostly a fanboi post to scold those that disagree with their shamed hero. IMHO" | Oct 05 01:06 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bheron/status/1180021944026050560 | Oct 05 02:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bheron: @eancaer @Bizitzarenjokoa @schestowitz There were a number of factors against us back in the day. C++ had become… https://t.co/0614H3jVY2 | Oct 05 02:50 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bheron: @eancaer @Bizitzarenjokoa @schestowitz There were a number of factors against us back in the day. C++ had become… https://t.co/0614H3jVY2 | Oct 05 02:50 | |
| schestowitz | "There were a number of factors against us back in the day. C++ had become more popular, processing speed wasn’t all that which made everything slow, GNUstep had a number of advantages, but mindshare, unfortunately, was not among them. We are still around and still pushing." | Oct 05 02:50 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Jeditobe/status/1180116383952191490 | Oct 05 02:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Jeditobe: @schestowitz it is release candidate | Oct 05 02:51 | |
| schestowitz | yes, I know, but I wanted to link to something, so a quick note in a page would be nice | Oct 05 02:51 |
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| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/10/breaking-cjeu-rules-that-intermediary.html?showComment=1570125789875#c3966974940930114000 | Oct 05 03:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: CJEU rules that an intermediary can be ordered to remove content identical and equivalent to that found illegal, also worldwide - The IPKat | Oct 05 03:29 | |
| schestowitz | "Is the ruling positive, negative or multifaceted in general?" | Oct 05 03:29 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/10/enlarged-board-of-appeal-releases-full.html?showComment=1570174601184#c7775795852405052474 | Oct 05 03:29 |
| schestowitz | "Another possibility would be to learn German.. oh wait, what did they say about Britain? "Learning a foreign language is considered as flamboyant as wearing a crown in a bus"... well..." | Oct 05 03:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Enlarged Board of Appeal releases full reasoning in G2/19 - The IPKat | Oct 05 03:29 | |
| schestowitz | > Is there a contest as to how not to mention Malware in relation to | Oct 05 04:35 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft Windows. See this register story for an example. I would post | Oct 05 04:35 |
| schestowitz | > a retraction except my posts get perminantly stuck in moderation. Same | Oct 05 04:35 |
| schestowitz | > with the Microsoft Slashdot and the Microsoft Zdnet. Must be the | Oct 05 04:35 |
| schestowitz | > “advertising” money, you should do a story on it. | Oct 05 04:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 05 04:35 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/03/fbi_softens_stance_on_ransomware/ | Oct 05 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.co.uk | FBI softens stance on ransomware: it's (sort of) okay to pay off crims to get your data back • The Register | Oct 05 04:35 | |
| schestowitz | I will do an article about this | Oct 05 04:35 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Oct 05 04:35 |
| schestowitz | >>> http://techrights.org/?stories | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 05 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Techrights | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom | Oct 05 04:55 | |
| schestowitz | >> I think it's all good now. I checked all the links (8x3 =24 of them, | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | >> there are links as images and as text in each post for each channel). | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | >> Mind you, we also have #tuxmachines irc logs, but not uploading them. | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | >> Maybe one day... | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | >> Very happy with how effortlessly we can produce these logs on a daily | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | >> basis. In the old days it took me ageees.... back around 2008. Over time | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | >> I improved my redaction tact and automated more bits of it. | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | >> Phoronix used to publish its IRC logs, but gave up some time along the | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | >> way. Now it's just forums. | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | > IRC is a lot of work. One must be a bot herder to have any chance of | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | > establishing and holding a channel. | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | We get some help from volunteers. | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | The main channel now has ~60 regulars. | Oct 05 04:55 |
| schestowitz | > Ok. All three days are published now. | Oct 05 05:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 05 05:00 |
| schestowitz | >> I've just finished a 1-9am shift (third night in a row with bullying | Oct 05 05:00 |
| schestowitz | >> management!) and this weekend I plan to do August - Sept. in bulk to | Oct 05 05:00 |
| schestowitz | >> fill the gap. | Oct 05 05:00 |
| schestowitz | > I see that the logs are in the old date format | Oct 05 05:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 05 05:00 |
| schestowitz | > $ ls /home/boycottn/public_html/irc-archives/ | Oct 05 05:00 |
| schestowitz | > irc-log-011019.html irc-log-techbytes-011019.html | Oct 05 05:00 |
| schestowitz | > irc-log-021019.html irc-log-techbytes-021019.html | Oct 05 05:00 |
| schestowitz | > irc-log-031019.html irc-log-techbytes-031019.html | Oct 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > irc-log-social-011019.html irc-log-techrights-011019.html | Oct 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > irc-log-social-021019.html irc-log-techrights-021019.html | Oct 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > irc-log-social-031019.html irc-log-techrights-031019.html | Oct 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > Will those for Friday, October 4th, 2019, be saved as ISO? | Oct 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > 2019-10-04 | Oct 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | > If so then I can make a shell script on my end to produce the table. | Oct 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | I wrongly assumed that you wanted that format for files I pass over to you (as I did). The above were unchanged for consistency with over a decade of logs (that's the URL structure), but I can change that too going forward -- just a minor tweak. | Oct 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | The script is pretty rough and dirty, but it gets the job done and will be improved over time. | Oct 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: someone sent me this: | Oct 05 05:09 |
| schestowitz | Re: ohm in summary | Oct 05 05:09 |
| schestowitz | > oiaohm (paraphrased and summarised) | Oct 05 05:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 05 05:09 |
| schestowitz | > "we have to accept codes of conduct because they are created to bring organisations into compliance with new unconstitutional and unjust laws that industry demands." | Oct 05 05:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 05 05:09 |
| schestowitz | > oiaohm (paraphrased and made into a metaphor) | Oct 05 05:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 05 05:09 |
| schestowitz | > "we have to accept drm because it is implemented to bring technology into compliance with new unconstitutional and unjust laws that industry demands." | Oct 05 05:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 05 05:09 |
| schestowitz | > #nowedont #norshouldwe | Oct 05 05:09 |
| schestowitz | I cannot tell you who wrote this, oiaohm | Oct 05 05:09 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: please not the laws are not new. There has been a historic duty of care requirement that came in near the end of the industrial revolution. | Oct 05 06:18 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: those duty of care laws that have been sitting on the books ignored are the ones that make organisations require items like Code of conduct. | Oct 05 06:19 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Now if we don't like those laws we need to get the government to remove them. | Oct 05 06:19 |
| oiaohm | DRM is kind of the same battle. | Oct 05 06:20 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: No point being anti Linux kernel having CoC when its a legal requirement for the Kernel to business. Its better to be anti the laws that force that requirement on the kernel and get those removed. | Oct 05 06:22 |
| oiaohm | With DRM we need to be kind of picky what use would hdcp be if we end up with the Linux kernel including software emulation of it for development of secure display applications. | Oct 05 06:23 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: you can send that back to them right. | Oct 05 06:24 |
| schestowitz | I can | Oct 05 06:24 |
| schestowitz | if you want me to | Oct 05 06:24 |
| oiaohm | I really do the big thing is the duty of care laws are not new. The are the base to most countries work place heath and safety and got children out of factories..... Yes including way back then pushing of abusive bosses. | Oct 05 06:30 |
| oiaohm | The person who wrote that really need to be told that. | Oct 05 06:30 |
| oiaohm | The laws were never fine tuned. | Oct 05 06:30 |
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| oiaohm | There are stacks of laws sitting in the legal books that people don't get removed that one day may wake up and cause other headaches. These old laws were woken up by prodecutors trying to get Catholic church for child abuse and other things. | Oct 05 06:32 |
| oiaohm | Its like me using a 800 year law in a Civil court to win. Most people are not aware in Civil court you can call opposing lawyer to stand as a character wittiness and then keep they under oath for the remainder of the trial. Please note using a law older than the country I am in. | Oct 05 06:34 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: even in the USA there are a lot of laws that still were written in England before the USA existed as a country or colonised that still apply in the USA because they have not been written out of the law books. | Oct 05 06:36 |
| oiaohm | We do have to watch the laws that get written that could force us to either not be able to use encryption or be forced to use DRM. | Oct 05 06:37 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I know I have not worded that the best. They need to be told I am not exactly for the CoC I understand the laws that are forcing it. We really don't need to be like the suffragette over these laws over the laws that force the CoC because that only end up coming evidence why the laws forcing the CoC need to remain in place. | Oct 05 06:40 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: you got a reply: | Oct 05 06:43 |
| schestowitz | > What a hoot. He seems very sincere, maybe he has a point. I guess the main point he's missing is that we have to do something about unjust laws either way-- we can't just accept them and say "well, that's showbiz..." | Oct 05 06:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 05 06:43 |
| schestowitz | > There's a difference between ignoring unjust laws and resisting injustice. This sort of tension exists in every movement to change the world. Just rolling over (or suggesting we just roll over) is pointless and fatalistic. | Oct 05 06:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 05 06:43 |
| schestowitz | > Encouraging fatalism is a known tactic in PR as well as a logical fallacy (Appeal to Authority.) | Oct 05 06:43 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: tell him to read about the suffragette they did a huge stack things attempting to over turn what were truly unjust laws. Problem is basically nothing they did worked instead they caused for a long time the laws to be enforce and kept because their actions did not display responsibility. | Oct 05 06:45 |
| oiaohm | The hard point with fighting laws is doing nothing is better than fighting the law the wrong ways. | Oct 05 06:46 |
| oiaohm | changing laws required having a cool head about it. It important that you make the unfair law look like a pointless waste of space to be in the law books. | Oct 05 06:48 |
| oiaohm | Think about it getting in a flame fest and getting abusive for the Linux kernel having a CoC or other project having a CoC basically comes exactly like stunts the suffragette. Basically showing abusive behavour that the law exists to stop so the law demarding the CoC end up appearing right because there is abusive behaviour that should not be going on | Oct 05 06:53 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: basically send that the problem is laws come self reinforcing things if you fight them in the wrong way. The wrong way basically bad behaviours so making the law appear right when you really don't want the law so you want the law to appear wrong/pointless. | Oct 05 06:55 |
| schestowitz | >> > Well that's nice. What about Stallman? Let me guess... | Oct 05 07:27 |
| oiaohm | As a PR marketing person I really have no problems with Stallman. As a president of a organisation and other management roles with his biases its been a problem for sometime. | Oct 05 07:30 |
| oiaohm | Everyone has roles they are competent todo. I see Stallman as a victim of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle where you keep on being promoted until you are dangerously incompetent.\ | Oct 05 07:32 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Peter principle - Wikipedia | Oct 05 07:32 | |
| oiaohm | I don't think Stallman need to be completely fired but a demotion/moved sideways was required. | Oct 05 07:33 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I guess that not exactly the point of view most would think i would have. | Oct 05 07:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kaddourkardio/status/1180388809910951936 | Oct 05 09:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kaddourkardio: @schestowitz I love your work in #techrights ,and i would suggest you to make your website more distraction-free, à la medium. | Oct 05 09:10 | |
| schestowitz | Why not read the site using an RSS feed reader? The RSS feed is full text. | Oct 05 09:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AmgedSabeeh/status/1180419924100993024 | Oct 05 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmgedSabeeh: @schestowitz عاجل:وصول باخرة إماراتية تحمل مشتقات نفطية مقدمة لكهرباء حضرموت للمزيد من التفاصيل ©صحيفة #حضرموت21… https://t.co/yI7iRBge4J | Oct 05 18:36 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmgedSabeeh: @schestowitz عاجل:وصول باخرة إماراتية تحمل مشتقات نفطية مقدمة لكهرباء حضرموت للمزيد من التفاصيل ©صحيفة #حضرموت21… https://t.co/yI7iRBge4J | Oct 05 18:36 | |
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| schestowitz | عاجل:وصول باخرة إماراتية تحمل مشتقات نفطية مقدمة لكهرباء حضرموت | Oct 05 18:36 |
| schestowitz | للمزيد من التفاصيل | Oct 05 18:36 |
| schestowitz | ©صحيفة #حضرموت21 | Oct 05 18:36 |
| schestowitz | https://hadramout21.com/2019/10/05/184048/… . | Oct 05 18:36 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/policyspacexyz/status/1180447548647063553 | Oct 05 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@policyspacexyz: @schestowitz What if everybody wore a mask, would #HongKongPolice arrest everybody? #hk #hongkong #MaskBan | Oct 05 18:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1180468912921686016 | Oct 05 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: Well @schestowitz News of the new "Android" Microsoft phone. I wonder how much Microsoft have back doored that ? | Oct 05 18:37 | |
| schestowitz | Backed doors the media to promote this crap | Oct 05 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Backed-doored the media to promote this crap | Oct 05 18:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Jeditobe/status/1180475630850322433 | Oct 05 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Jeditobe: @schestowitz we usually do not mention such things as RC, because they are minor. Anyway there is a link https://t.co/YAXeTDLsg9 | Oct 05 18:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> reactos.org | Tests for 0.4.13 - ReactOS Wiki | Oct 05 18:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1180507917008683008 | Oct 05 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: Civilized places like Canada and the USA have bans on facemasks worn by protestors at such events. The Police need… https://t.co/pJFZAQYdkB | Oct 05 18:39 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: Civilized places like Canada and the USA have bans on facemasks worn by protestors at such events. The Police need… https://t.co/pJFZAQYdkB | Oct 05 18:39 | |
| schestowitz | "Civilized places like Canada and the USA have bans on facemasks worn by protestors at such events. The Police need to be able to identify those doing "criminal acts". The law doesn't interfere with anybody's right to assemble." | Oct 05 18:39 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/niallcraig5/status/1180513117459144708 | Oct 05 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@niallcraig5: @schestowitz @LFC You love to see it https://t.co/jYRCo1Z6Qk | Oct 05 18:40 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@niallcraig5: @schestowitz @LFC You love to see it https://t.co/jYRCo1Z6Qk | Oct 05 18:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/j082298/status/1180515523521593344 | Oct 05 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: @schestowitz Closet Nazis rule the world. | Oct 05 18:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1180538122356047874 | Oct 05 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz They keep on trying to back door me. As a magazine writer. Not worked so far. | Oct 05 18:41 | |
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