●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, August 06, 2022 ●● ● Aug 06 [02:35] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 06 [03:31] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Aug 06 [04:05] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 06 [06:20] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Aug 06 [08:02] schestowitz-TR gulag search has begun indexing and presenting pertinent pages in new.tm [08:02] schestowitz-TR I'm just checking as you said they would not be indexing new sites, or barely [08:02] schestowitz-TR I think it follows links from IRC logs [08:02] schestowitz-TR rianne has gotten comfortable with the submission process [08:02] schestowitz-TR yesterday she got stuck and DB was locked again when she gave up [08:02] schestowitz-TR turns out it was ampersand [08:02] schestowitz-TR sometimes they are inside URLs and sometimes no spaces between them [08:02] schestowitz-TR I told her to find them and change/remove them [08:31] schestowitz-TR gm, cheers fore the links [08:32] Techrights-sec np [08:32] Techrights-sec tidy produces some warnings, but they are maybe not the easiest to spot [08:32] Techrights-sec the locking in sqlite3 is quite simplified but it is important [08:32] schestowitz-TR I've found a new way o show in context android vs windows [08:32] schestowitz-TR today I'll look closely into the pi and how to make it work better esp. ipfs [08:37] schestowitz-TR wow, today just 3 new items in counterpunch rss feeds [08:37] schestowitz-TR there used to be like 50 or more [08:37] schestowitz-TR btw, when tuxmachines has rss feed (I saw you started coding it yesterday) we can submit that to some sites [08:37] schestowitz-TR and give it visibility [08:37] schestowitz-TR last night I did a 2-min video about linuxtoday [08:37] schestowitz-TR it has since then published 2 more webspam [08:45] Techrights-sec ack [08:45] Techrights-sec yes, but we should probably be blocking the spiders until the site is in [08:45] Techrights-sec production, it is not wise to drive traffic to a site still in late alpha [08:45] Techrights-sec stage [08:45] Techrights-sec btw EXT ACLs needed adjusting again. EXT sure is difficult in a shared context [08:45] Techrights-sec afaik nowhere else has used MQTT for Git notifications [08:46] schestowitz-TR it is very plausable as many things we do in TR and TM we do for the first time esp. in the context of gemini and to some extent ipfs [08:46] schestowitz-TR because they're young and small [08:46] schestowitz-TR on www, doing things first or being first is harder because it's hard to keep track of everything that goes on there [08:46] schestowitz-TR even in irc we 'innovated' a number of things [08:46] schestowitz-TR but not something truly major [08:46] schestowitz-TR you can add something on top of an existing protocol or combined protocol [08:46] schestowitz-TR like using gemini to give an up-toi-date index of hashes for ipfs [08:46] schestowitz-TR when you push to git the system bell and visible popup in knotify will tell me [08:46] schestowitz-TR then I run the script to see, with colour, all the latest changes in the two repos [08:46] schestowitz-TR *plausible [08:48] Techrights-sec yes [08:48] Techrights-sec one could make a public MQTT broker, one where the clients don't have to [08:48] Techrights-sec identify themselves, and use it to push a subset of RSS :/ [08:48] Techrights-sec nice [08:49] schestowitz-TR what you said about public mqtt broker occurred to me ysterday [08:49] schestowitz-TR rss with less bandiwith [08:49] schestowitz-TR push versus pull [08:49] schestowitz-TR like push notifications, but for site updates with another protcol [08:49] schestowitz-TR I forgot the name of the protocol of push notification, there are at least a couple [08:52] schestowitz-TR vis-a-vis gitlab is canning many projects to "save" 11 million a year [08:52] schestowitz-TR all that social control media loss leader BS [08:52] schestowitz-TR they were used to give people push notifications to their fake friends [08:52] schestowitz-TR over phoens etc. [08:52] schestowitz-TR at cost of abndwidth [08:52] schestowitz-TR but those people are now locked in to that vendor-specific push notif "disservice [08:52] schestowitz-TR so they cannot quit [08:52] schestowitz-TR or, if they do, their 'friends' ' "phones" will no longer notify them [08:52] schestowitz-TR so people must learn to [08:52] schestowitz-TR a) self host (it's not free) [08:52] schestowitz-TR (see gitlab) [08:52] schestowitz-TR b) do theior own notifications, e.g. blog doamin with rss, do not outsoutce. gulag youtube no longer notified ssubscribers, it's not as addictive as [08:52] schestowitz-TR aujtoplay at end and "suggestions" [08:52] schestowitz-TR and infinite scrolls [08:53] Techrights-sec yes, http is an inefficient wrapper [08:53] Techrights-sec but it would require an MQTT client as a browser pluging and I'm not sure [08:53] Techrights-sec what the upper limit on connections would be at the broker level. [08:53] Techrights-sec There is a test broker which sees heavy traffic: [08:53] Techrights-sec https://test.mosquitto.org/ [08:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-test.mosquitto.org [08:57] schestowitz-TR re mosquitto, I don't know the protocol [08:57] schestowitz-TR but I can imagine it habitually pings the clients to make sure it's still alive and the IP address is still current [08:57] schestowitz-TR so that when there's a message on $topic, it'll send a notification to all the right sessions, if they're not expired [08:57] schestowitz-TR so there must be some "pulses" going on even when there is no update to send [08:57] schestowitz-TR there are other factors that evade me atm, but those protocols suck because they give ytou stuff TODO [08:57] schestowitz-TR evcen when you're not prepared, not when you actually ask for any [08:57] schestowitz-TR that's why I check my email; at most once a day [08:57] schestowitz-TR rss: "boss, I'm free now. give me work please." [08:57] schestowitz-TR notifications/email always-on: "danny, sorry for interrupting you, I have another thing for you to do" [08:58] Techrights-sec mosquitto is one set of programs, MQTT is the protoco. It's rather simple. [08:58] Techrights-sec if I understand correctly it mainly uses TCP itself to maintain the connection [08:58] Techrights-sec yes push vs pull [08:58] Techrights-sec one of the reasons the Web took off was because it was pull ● Aug 06 [09:00] schestowitz-TR brb, handover at work [09:01] schestowitz-TR email can be "pull" also [09:01] schestowitz-TR it used to be in the dial-up era [09:01] schestowitz-TR guess which is more addictive, more stressful, and which harms productivity [09:02] Techrights-sec yes but too many idiots mistake webmail for e-mail and due to the inconvenience [09:02] Techrights-sec of web mail, combined with them leaving it on 24/7, mistake e-mail for being [09:02] Techrights-sec difficult. They are confusing terrible client software with the protocol itself [09:02] Techrights-sec and GAFAM aims to make that confusion worse in an apparent attempt to gain [09:02] Techrights-sec control over the relevant protocols and turn them into a proprietary service [09:02] Techrights-sec which they alone control and monitor [09:02] Techrights-sec ack [09:12] schestowitz-TR done [09:12] schestowitz-TR free again [09:12] schestowitz-TR what I'd like to know is [09:12] schestowitz-TR and I've said it out loud for 3-4 years already [09:12] schestowitz-TR where are people "online" going? [09:12] schestowitz-TR no doubt the www is perishing [09:12] schestowitz-TR I think because of 'webapps' and 'apps' [09:12] schestowitz-TR but I'm out of touch [09:12] schestowitz-TR because I did not embrace fashionable consumerism [09:12] schestowitz-TR so I don't know what tiktok and "apps" are like in 2022 [09:12] schestowitz-TR it's like asking rms about systemd [09:12] schestowitz-TR (he said he never installed gnu/linux himself) [09:13] schestowitz-TR or asking the amish about tractors [09:18] Techrights-sec ack [09:18] schestowitz-TR rms has been very focused on giving talks [09:18] schestowitz-TR and studying threats [09:18] schestowitz-TR which is fair enough [09:18] schestowitz-TR he lets the others help him with technical things, inc. operationg (they're like his "shabbos goys") [09:18] schestowitz-TR but when it comes to some of those "phone" things I too must admit, I'm in the dark [09:18] schestowitz-TR also, I never saw a spy meter [09:19] schestowitz-TR but the main concern is, 1) they are NOT needed 2) they will get worse over time (more sensors) [09:19] schestowitz-TR with routers you could argue there is a necessity [09:19] schestowitz-TR spy meters are an extension to the router which exists for a single purpose that's not requiring yet another piece of ewaste [09:22] Techrights-sec ack [09:22] Techrights-sec probably [09:22] Techrights-sec one contributing factor is the load that idle wall warts put on the grid [09:22] schestowitz-TR this morning in geminispace (latest, planet) [09:22] schestowitz-TR I read not one but two posts on energy problems [09:22] schestowitz-TR more connection and electric issues [09:22] schestowitz-TR combined with what rianne told me about the tram and outages in shops [09:22] schestowitz-TR I'm starting to wonder if there's an energy crisis the media says too little about [09:23] schestowitz-TR and it not limited just to price [09:23] schestowitz-TR I can find you the two gemini:// links [09:23] schestowitz-TR I put them in the irc channel actualluy [09:23] schestowitz-TR I hope out Network/Internet uptime will still be good and no UPS will be needed [09:24] schestowitz-TR UPS = more manufacturing (waste), much like A/C to 'combat' heating [09:24] schestowitz-TR then it draws up some power [09:24] schestowitz-TR they tell us spy meters will help save energy [09:25] schestowitz-TR as if they're made out of thin air and run on "thetans" [09:25] schestowitz-TR (same for EVs) [09:28] schestowitz-TR our current router (installed january 2021 IIRC, after our complaints; the engineer told us to demand a new one) has very good uptime [09:28] schestowitz-TR and no network hangups, or very rare ones [09:28] schestowitz-TR I don't take this for granted; it wasn't like this before [09:28] schestowitz-TR the upstream provider (ISP) has also been OK since then [09:28] schestowitz-TR when I had networ problem it was electic outage or my own mistakes (or oven triggering a fuse) [09:28] schestowitz-TR "you don't appreciate things... until you lose them..." [09:28] schestowitz-TR "Since I've started hosting shit.cx from home, my internet and electricity has been more unreliable than ever." gemini://shit.cx/tech/meta/2022-08-05-so-much-downtime-/ [09:32] Techrights-sec ack [09:37] schestowitz-TR I exported my own router settings (less than 150 lines) to a file [09:37] schestowitz-TR it lets you save the most hedious sort of file you even saw [09:37] schestowitz-TR it's like a soup of binary and ascii [09:37] schestowitz-TR but you can see bits and bobs that you put in [09:37] schestowitz-TR they don't use ini or json or xml [09:37] schestowitz-TR it's ridiculous [09:37] schestowitz-TR I saved these last summer when they "tried" to= put us on fibre (first home in this area) [09:37] schestowitz-TR and I wanted to be able to import the same stuff into the "new" router [09:37] schestowitz-TR which looks exactly the same, except minor differencee [09:37] schestowitz-TR and BT gave me conflicting messages about compatibility [09:37] schestowitz-TR either way, they seemed unready to support this new service [09:38] schestowitz-TR and I reckoned as an "experiment" I would get worse services [09:38] schestowitz-TR lack of expirtise and effect on only one user, not whole block of homes [09:38] schestowitz-TR they compensated us almost 100 pounds for all the trouble [09:38] schestowitz-TR we still have the fibre equipment, not connected to the socket, inside the home [09:38] schestowitz-TR it'll come in handy as this sort of service matures sufficiently [09:38] Techrights-sec JSON? [09:43] schestowitz-TR not json [09:44] schestowitz-TR I could send you the file, but somewhere in it there are likely passwords [09:44] schestowitz-TR without power, you typically can have no connections [09:44] schestowitz-TR without connections you could still have power [09:44] schestowitz-TR the other day (tue.) when the power was off I went us to be productive [09:44] schestowitz-TR rianne said that she'd rather have no power than no running water [09:44] schestowitz-TR but in winter you cannot bathe without some level of water heating [09:44] schestowitz-TR call me sceptics or paranoid, but jusding by trends I read about, cost won't be the sole issue [09:44] schestowitz-TR when it comes to CLEAN water being available or a steadfy flow of power [09:44] schestowitz-TR In african there is this thing called GPL that showed up in my feeds [09:44] schestowitz-TR they have lots of outages and sometimes even planned blackouts [09:44] schestowitz-TR like, you need to prepare for times of the day without power [09:44] schestowitz-TR and charge applicance accordingly [09:44] schestowitz-TR this, to me, is a whole new concept/monster [09:44] schestowitz-TR power "share" or rationing [09:44] schestowitz-TR I'd hate to live in a world with water rationing [09:44] schestowitz-TR at the moment they just have things like "hose bans" [09:44] schestowitz-TR you sent me a link about spain trying to limit or police A/C thermostats [09:44] schestowitz-TR maybe first in public places where enforcers can go [09:44] schestowitz-TR maybe later in proprietary firmware.. [09:44] schestowitz-TR spy meters come to mind here [09:44] schestowitz-TR why you might NOT want to have one [09:44] schestowitz-TR give me the bits (network) [09:44] schestowitz-TR give me water [09:44] schestowitz-TR give me voltage [09:44] schestowitz-TR how it's used is my own gaddamn business [09:53] schestowitz-TR --- [09:53] schestowitz-TR rianne said that in mindanao they used to have power rationing or outtage hours (planned) [09:53] schestowitz-TR and in manila is there's elnino they do awater ratiuoning too [09:54] Techrights-sec water distribution is becoming more unsteady and uneven [09:54] Techrights-sec in places which still have water it is coming more often in large doses [09:54] Techrights-sec rather than spread out over time [09:54] Techrights-sec many place have had power rationing but in many situations it is due to [09:54] Techrights-sec privatization because it is not profitable to deploy more capacity until [09:54] Techrights-sec there is more demand. Brownouts, however, destroy equipment, even heavy [09:54] Techrights-sec stuff like refrigerators [09:54] Techrights-sec again the various wastages cause problems with load; [09:54] Techrights-sec at the scale that "smartphones" are deployed worldwide, and given that [09:54] Techrights-sec they need to be recharged muliptle times per day, they are collectively [09:54] Techrights-sec probably one of the world's largest drains on the grid [09:54] Techrights-sec ... if considered as a single line item [09:57] schestowitz-TR btw, did you see the post about android in africa? [09:57] schestowitz-TR wow, 18% windows... no wonder the media is too busy harping about "chrome OS" vs "Windows" [09:57] schestowitz-TR living in a more GAFAM universe where everyone can blow $1000 on a laptop instead of [09:57] schestowitz-TR a budget $100 "smart" phone from "belt and braces" land [09:58] Techrights-sec "tracking devices which also happen to make calls" ● Aug 06 [10:03] schestowitz-TR rianne now telling me rocking firdge stories [10:03] schestowitz-TR due to unsteady power levels in some places [10:03] schestowitz-TR you know, last week I tried to recall who came up with that sentence [10:03] schestowitz-TR not sure if it was ioerror, or me (maybe he repeated me), or rms, or maybe we all borrowed that from someone else [10:03] schestowitz-TR rms said "stalin's dream" [10:03] schestowitz-TR "also happen to make calls" is jake [10:03] schestowitz-TR but maybe inspired by something he had read from me [10:03] schestowitz-TR it's not important anyway [10:03] schestowitz-TR I can at least say I popularised some terms, not big like "brexit" [10:03] schestowitz-TR but still... changing how people communicate issues and the vocabulary helps tackle issues [10:03] schestowitz-TR openwashing became more widespread [10:03] schestowitz-TR fauxopen never caught on sflc said "giveUpGithub" [10:03] Techrights-sec "tracking devices which also happen to make calls" [10:03] Techrights-sec I think it was jake [10:03] Techrights-sec at least he was the first early on [10:03] Techrights-sec ack [10:04] schestowitz-TR I wondered the same and I assumed it was coined by him, based on nothing but me seeing him adopting and using the term a lot [10:10] schestowitz-TR masnick did a number of important things/contributions in the vocabulary sense, but like godwin with "godwin's law" [10:10] schestowitz-TR masnick did "streisand effect" [10:10] schestowitz-TR which is still in use to this dy [10:10] schestowitz-TR of course techdirt lost much of the influence it had in the golden era of the web after msie was elbowed aside [10:10] Techrights-sec ack [10:10] Techrights-sec I should read techdirt more often. When he sticks to purely technical matters [10:10] Techrights-sec he and tech policy, he is quite good. But on other topics he exhibits some [10:10] Techrights-sec signs of severe social control media poisoning [10:16] schestowitz-TR he or his colleagues are sceptical of regulations and too defensive of 1) gafam 2) social control media [10:16] schestowitz-TR calling everything a "panic" even where legitimate concerns do exist [10:16] schestowitz-TR I don't read techdirt outside of kate text editor, so I honestly don't know who writes what [10:16] schestowitz-TR I don't even know if moody sitll writes there [10:16] schestowitz-TR observation: techdirt used to get over 200 comments per post, for good posts at least [10:16] schestowitz-TR nowadays it's often less than a dozen... last I checkede [10:16] schestowitz-TR but techdirt does not do irc and never did irc [10:16] schestowitz-TR so for mike and co to receive feedback from readers they rely too much on sh*t like twitter [10:16] schestowitz-TR and are unable to let go [10:16] schestowitz-TR feedback is importat [10:16] schestowitz-TR I don't know the words to explain the phenomenon [10:16] schestowitz-TR but writing to a wall or getting no sensory feedback is hard [10:17] schestowitz-TR even if you know someone reads it [10:17] schestowitz-TR like publishing a book, not knowing anything except how many copies were printed (not sold) [10:17] schestowitz-TR and what the readrs thing [10:17] schestowitz-TR amazon "reviews" is astroturf zone [10:17] schestowitz-TR ripe for the liks of clickfraud spamnil [10:17] schestowitz-TR igor diedomedo has not published books or blog posts in a while [10:17] schestowitz-TR last I saw he was busy toying around with proprietary 3-d modeling s/w [10:17] schestowitz-TR and is gradually weaning himself OFF windows [10:18] Techrights-sec sometimes [10:18] Techrights-sec I really wish Glyn would have some kind of syndication because I will go to [10:18] Techrights-sec a site specifically to read what he wrote even if it's a site I would otherwise [10:18] Techrights-sec not prioritize [10:18] Techrights-sec some of that is the public is no longer used to being allowed to comment [10:23] schestowitz-TR moody's work is widely scattred by the virtue of his ability to do gainful employment as a writer [10:23] schestowitz-TR ars, linux journal, techdirt... [10:23] schestowitz-TR I sadly wasted many years writing shit in social control media where I could do a better job writing the same in my Weblog from 2004 [10:23] schestowitz-TR I'm making up for it now, little by little... [10:23] schestowitz-TR some american cousins of mine read it for sure [10:23] schestowitz-TR remember that tuxmachines still has an android "app", but I don't know if it is compatible with latest android versions [10:23] schestowitz-TR it's basically a preloaded RSS reader [10:23] schestowitz-TR with push notifications something better can be done [10:23] schestowitz-TR but don't want to condone use of spyphones [10:23] schestowitz-TR the other day on rianne's laptop I tested web-based access to irc @ tuxmachines [10:23] schestowitz-TR there are about 20-25 users online in that channels [10:23] schestowitz-TR it shows site updates [10:23] schestowitz-TR but no real community there [10:23] schestowitz-TR szombie community of sorts [10:23] schestowitz-TR like #phoronix was in freenode [10:23] schestowitz-TR before pulling the plug [10:33] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:43] schestowitz-TR self-hosting is better for self-taught, skilling etc. imho [10:43] schestowitz-TR too many people skip many stages by just "opening an account" [10:43] schestowitz-TR e.g. vps [10:43] schestowitz-TR and come to assume a lot about netblocks, hardware etc. [10:43] schestowitz-TR so they can never properly provision and do things [10:43] schestowitz-TR mind you, I was never sys admin [10:43] schestowitz-TR I'm a programmer [10:43] schestowitz-TR not very pracitising since my phd days [10:43] schestowitz-TR as I do more writing [10:44] schestowitz-TR but being "dev op" (bs term) means you have more control over the stack [10:44] schestowitz-TR some "ops", like oiaohm, cannot do any programming [10:44] schestowitz-TR some "users", like daemonfc, can't do dev or ops [10:44] schestowitz-TR but still "get" a lot of tech [10:44] schestowitz-TR toay's uni grads probably get the worst of all worlds [10:44] schestowitz-TR a) accounts, not self-hosting [10:44] schestowitz-TR (e.g. gmail, aws) [10:44] schestowitz-TR b) fake programming ("frameworks"), not even "swing" in java but stuff like vue.js and electron [10:44] schestowitz-TR c) windows, "apps" etc. [10:44] schestowitz-TR so basically they end up paceled off to GAFAM-ish "IMPOSED-FROM-ABOVE" agenda [10:44] schestowitz-TR and therefore aren't employable by companies that actually get stuff done [10:49] schestowitz-TR unpopular theory: [10:49] schestowitz-TR computers are being made worse [10:49] schestowitz-TR and programming tools too [10:49] schestowitz-TR among other stuff [10:49] schestowitz-TR to take back power from the "people" [10:49] schestowitz-TR and weaken resistance or unionisation, leaking without consequences [10:49] schestowitz-TR as it's assumed that people were given "too powerful" or general-purpose computiong [10:49] schestowitz-TR and now it's time to disemplower them by presenting them with inferior but "UX" (cargo cult) toys [10:49] schestowitz-TR like AWS accounts instead of an environment one can control (in 2010 already AAWS kicked out wikileaks; iirc, aws was not even profitable back then) [10:49] schestowitz-TR chats are being centralised and people's clients are not making secure connections [10:49] schestowitz-TR because "kids somethjing,,,," or "terror attacks" [10:49] schestowitz-TR whether it is all planned and deliberate would be difficult to prove (who? wef? nato? where is the "conspiracy") [10:49] schestowitz-TR hence it's more of an hypothesis [10:49] schestowitz-TR good luck provinmg it without being dubbed "crank" [10:50] Techrights-sec there are only 24 hours per day [10:50] Techrights-sec yep [10:50] Techrights-sec on purpose [10:50] Techrights-sec I would suspect that to be the case, too [10:50] Techrights-sec the proprietary "cloud" stuff falls under that umbrella too [10:50] Techrights-sec it takes away the commodity nature of the systems [10:50] Techrights-sec note that accidentally at first all the anti-spam measures have done nothing [10:51] Techrights-sec more than centralize control over online written communication, and not really [10:51] Techrights-sec addressed actual spam [10:51] Techrights-sec "think of the children" == root passphrase [10:51] Techrights-sec to bypass democracy and just about anything else [10:51] schestowitz-TR [21:46] Bill Gates-bribed news [sic] papers try to associate accusation of high-profile pedophilia with the far right. Meanwhile Gates was working behind the scenes to enable Jeffrey Esptein. Guardian sees nothing wrong with it, uses straw men instead. https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/12/conspirituality-is-pervasive-but-why/ [10:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stop.zona-m.net | Conspirituality is pervasive, but why? | Stop at Zona-M [10:52] schestowitz-TR his blog is spitting out updates again in rss [10:52] schestowitz-TR for the first time this year, I think [10:52] schestowitz-TR that blog is a mess [10:52] schestowitz-TR drafts, missing stuff... it's like a desk with papers all over the place... [10:52] Techrights-sec ack [10:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [10:57] schestowitz-TR I was thinking late last night [10:57] schestowitz-TR or our repo of articles about epo [10:57] schestowitz-TR in the context ofm whether the capsule still updatesd the wiki mirror ok [10:57] schestowitz-TR if the epo goes under, it'll have impact on a number of orgs connected to it [10:57] schestowitz-TR if not the profession in general [10:57] schestowitz-TR I was also concerned about two or three irc users [10:57] schestowitz-TR one connects "us" to nuttery [10:57] schestowitz-TR two can connect us to "far right" [10:57] schestowitz-TR if people aren't careful in grasping what irc is [10:57] schestowitz-TR and our very liberal policy on speech [10:58] schestowitz-TR I think the best approach is to rebut the BS, even insult the BS [10:58] schestowitz-TR and make it clear the opinion is fringe even among us and we don't leave that unchallenged [10:58] schestowitz-TR kaniini temporarily banned phanes a month ago [10:58] schestowitz-TR after I had been told of a plan to hard-code into the server an INABILITY to ban [10:58] schestowitz-TR see? epople are good at doing things.... as long as it suits them [10:58] schestowitz-TR when it doesn't then there are "exceptions" ● Aug 06 [11:00] Techrights-sec yes [11:00] Techrights-sec the nuttery is a means of disparagement through involuntary association [11:00] schestowitz-TR the person was fedora ambassador for a while [11:00] schestowitz-TR and even before changing name the person had already been into that crazy theory [11:00] schestowitz-TR so many the identity change is connected to narcotics use [11:00] schestowitz-TR or, as per admission, autism [11:00] schestowitz-TR we cannot ban people for that, we need to learn how to better deal with it [11:06] schestowitz-TR we've lasted as a site and as online community (irc is one of several means) for 1.5 decades [11:06] schestowitz-TR so we must have done _some_ things right [11:06] schestowitz-TR having said that, there's always room for improvement [11:06] schestowitz-TR technical aspects of the improvements are important [11:06] schestowitz-TR I have some ideas for TR capsule [11:06] schestowitz-TR but work keeps "wasting" time [11:06] schestowitz-TR and they don't let me go easily (still no updates from them) [11:06] schestowitz-TR at least we get paid in the meantime, so I cannot complain [11:06] schestowitz-TR I want to set up automated backup on the pi (external disk, 3tb, is already plugged in and even though it is mounted only user "pi" can 'see' it) [11:06] schestowitz-TR the backup job is already a script, but it's not cronned [11:06] schestowitz-TR next week I'll get more spare usb sticks to burn clones onto [11:07] schestowitz-TR I like how the pi makes "hot spares"... plug and play [11:07] schestowitz-TR the worst outage was when debian 10 died and we had to rebuild again on debian 11 in around jan 2022 [11:07] schestowitz-TR even though I have an up-to-date backup of /home [11:15] schestowitz-TR just done a full sanity check ont eh pi forbulletin and irc archives [11:15] schestowitz-TR tldr: there were two gaps [11:15] schestowitz-TR one for the clone to preseent (march to august [11:15] schestowitz-TR another for latest backup to present (july to august) [11:15] schestowitz-TR I can see there are no gaps left [11:15] schestowitz-TR also for blog posts I think it completed he gaps [11:15] schestowitz-TR and the wiki [11:15] schestowitz-TR I'm going to check how long a full backup to magnetic disk takes from usb (on sd card system it was rather fast, maybe under 1 hour) [11:15] Techrights-sec yes, it's a nice feature being able to just move storage media pretty much [11:15] Techrights-sec interchangeably [11:15] Techrights-sec ack [11:17] schestowitz-TR rianne's rsp400 also means we have a spare physical machines, either way [11:17] schestowitz-TR she can use mine and plug in external keyboard [11:17] schestowitz-TR now it's hard to get spares for s reasonable price w [11:17] schestowitz-TR when she bought one just before the war (shortages worsened) it cost about 70 pounds [11:17] schestowitz-TR iirc, it launched for retail price of about 50 [11:19] Techrights-sec The main downside to the RPi is that it is now very hard to get them [11:19] Techrights-sec but you have more options there in the UK for now as to where to buy them [11:19] schestowitz-TR you can probably find them off ebay, but it would take days to ship, hence no >hot_ spare [11:21] Techrights-sec the RPi units are so rare in part because of scalpers, such as what you find [11:21] Techrights-sec on E-Bay :( [11:27] schestowitz-TR I'd say hold on to what you have, put it to use though [11:27] schestowitz-TR all our working machines are powered on and help augment workflows [11:27] schestowitz-TR but that purpose is never immediately obvious [11:27] schestowitz-TR needs lateral thinking [11:27] schestowitz-TR I'm going to test duration of full backup now [11:27] schestowitz-TR ok, it shows time of start [11:27] schestowitz-TR then tries each device (drive) based on device unique id when mounted [11:27] schestowitz-TR I'll assess the rate of growth to get estimate of duration [11:27] schestowitz-TR oh, writing to external disk is still fast I see... 300 mb done in about a minute so far [11:28] Techrights-sec I presume that is without LUKS encryption [11:28] Techrights-sec LUKS will slow it down substantially and can make Rsync impossible [11:28] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@u99j58s6q7if4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:36] schestowitz-TR LUKS has a back door: torture [11:37] schestowitz-TR psychological in the UK (unless they parcel you off to some CIA "black site") [11:37] schestowitz-TR I still have my fist and mouth to stave off intruders [11:37] schestowitz-TR rianne already knows what to do if cops come over (witness for protection, deterrence) [11:37] schestowitz-TR not that they have ANY legtimate reason to visit [11:37] schestowitz-TR LUKS is good when you travel physically with a device (e.g. laptop) and it contains sensitive info [11:37] schestowitz-TR you cannot just access over the network instead [11:37] schestowitz-TR like travel abaord, then ssh to home [11:37] schestowitz-TR in which case border control gets just a "blank" [11:37] schestowitz-TR and ssh does all the security [11:37] schestowitz-TR rsync does a lot of checksums [11:37] schestowitz-TR iirc [11:37] schestowitz-TR you sent me pages, but I only did a very shallow read [11:37] schestowitz-TR it relies on the files being mostly the same (identical checksum at target and dest) [11:37] schestowitz-TR otherwise it would be no more efficient than a copy [11:37] schestowitz-TR even slower is ALL the files are changed entirely [11:37] schestowitz-TR not "half files" [11:37] schestowitz-TR or "quarter files" [11:37] schestowitz-TR slower because it has the overhead of needless comparison [11:37] schestowitz-TR that results in negatices [11:37] schestowitz-TR *negatives [11:37] schestowitz-TR for LUKs, you need to decrypt everything, entirely, then get checksum [11:37] schestowitz-TR I don't know if LUKS has per-individual-file access to objects [11:37] schestowitz-TR if it does, maybe you can compare checksums of encrypted objects without dcceprting them fist [11:37] schestowitz-TR assuming source and dest both use the same encryption key [11:37] schestowitz-TR and the hashsums do not depend on the allocation of files on encrypted disk [11:37] schestowitz-TR LUKS creates another risk factor: you getting locked out of your own system [11:37] schestowitz-TR or damage to disk rendering the whole thing dead [11:37] schestowitz-TR rather than partial damage [11:37] schestowitz-TR PC-based encryption or access protection relies on the physical disk not being retreievable by physical access [11:37] schestowitz-TR LUKS is for when you assume raid is possible and "they" can't get to your machine when it's powered on [11:37] schestowitz-TR same for openpgp when password token is still stored in RAM [11:39] Techrights-sec ack [11:39] Techrights-sec yes, if a bit flips then the whole partition is lost as far as I know [11:39] *spazz has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:40] schestowitz-TR wow.... SUPER LAG!!! [11:40] schestowitz-TR I tried ctrl+s/q a million times [11:40] schestowitz-TR but it was network [11:40] Techrights-sec ack [11:43] *spazz (~spazz@urifce6zxwtdi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:44] schestowitz-TR assange had his computer on [11:44] schestowitz-TR while he was kisnapped in the corridor and roughened up [11:44] schestowitz-TR he had handcuffs in the office [11:44] schestowitz-TR but he could not use them [11:44] schestowitz-TR to protect himself from kidnappers [11:44] schestowitz-TR he was claled to the other room [11:44] schestowitz-TR where revocation of his nationality was read out to him [11:44] schestowitz-TR and then he was snatched [11:44] schestowitz-TR I assuime the laptop they then sent to the un of a [11:44] schestowitz-TR was first imaged fully, while it was "unlocked" [11:44] schestowitz-TR they had a decade to prepare for this [11:44] schestowitz-TR and even audioned a little (coips entereing the enbassy a bit) dats prior [11:44] schestowitz-TR *audiotned [11:44] schestowitz-TR *auditioned [11:44] schestowitz-TR backup now halfway there, so it should take less than one hour all in all [11:44] schestowitz-TR I'll write a script to wrap this thing up and do a nightly dump of /home/ [11:44] schestowitz-TR maybe a stack for past 3 days [11:44] Techrights-sec ack [11:44] Techrights-sec very little coverage of how illegal it was to kidnap him from within the [11:44] Techrights-sec embassy; it was in violation of major treaties [11:44] Techrights-sec yet nary a peep [11:47] schestowitz-TR I hope he deleted identifying details about sources [11:47] schestowitz-TR they got hundreds of them [11:47] schestowitz-TR some unpublished [11:47] schestowitz-TR WL was a leaks magnet not just for US [11:47] schestowitz-TR snuffing out insiders in international committees [11:47] schestowitz-TR who might be repeat leakers is of interest to three-letter agencies [11:47] schestowitz-TR so they can better control what the public knows [11:48] Techrights-sec yes [11:48] Techrights-sec s/knows/believes/ :( [11:51] schestowitz-TR btw, villege idiot steffno from osi s running an evene on "HEY HI" [11:51] schestowitz-TR OSI is fast becoming a foes of our movement [11:51] schestowitz-TR and Steff is bagging like $130,000 PER YEAR [11:51] schestowitz-TR until OSI closes shop [11:51] schestowitz-TR because it's of no more use to Bill and Lolita [11:51] schestowitz-TR they are in the PR industry now [11:51] schestowitz-TR they do nothing else [11:51] schestowitz-TR no code, no nothing [11:51] schestowitz-TR meetings on how to message "members" (corporations) [11:51] schestowitz-TR and how to censor wikipedia... to "p[rotect the gays" [11:53] Techrights-sec OSI has it out for Software Freedom and even, to a lesser extent, OSS too [11:53] Techrights-sec uh oh: links within headings within lists: [11:53] Techrights-sec /gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Android_Leftovers.gmi [11:53] Techrights-sec https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Android_Leftovers.shtml [11:53] Techrights-sec checking ... [11:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Android Leftovers [11:57] schestowitz-TR thanks [11:57] schestowitz-TR we also use the pi as a file server for our open working files [11:57] schestowitz-TR if the pi goes up in flames, kio slave (oooo!! dont' say dat1!!) will still keep all the open files in kate [11:57] schestowitz-TR sadly, when the pi died days ago unopened files edited after july 29th lost their latest changes [11:57] schestowitz-TR that's basically (afaik) two files, todo_archive (stuff I ALREADY gotr done) [11:57] schestowitz-TR and tuxmachines.txt [11:57] schestowitz-TR and reboot_notes.tyxt (only updated a little after the last reboot... inventory of things to do and check) [11:57] schestowitz-TR had I done nightly backups of the pi, I'd not have lost any of these things [11:57] schestowitz-TR so lessons learned, action taken [11:57] schestowitz-TR no more SD [11:57] schestowitz-TR nightly backups highly advisable ● Aug 06 [12:04] Techrights-sec biab [12:11] schestowitz-TR backup complete. 35 mins. [12:11] schestowitz-TR 15 gb of tar files [12:11] schestowitz-TR cronning it now... [12:11] schestowitz-TR for 1am [12:11] schestowitz-TR no, better 5am... quieter and AFTER a lot of files get added 2-3am [12:11] schestowitz-TR doen , cronnned 5:10am will check tomorrow3~3~ [12:11] schestowitz-TR I've fortified the pi some more and more the disk and stuff under a cabinet [12:11] schestowitz-TR to better protect them from evil miss dust pen [12:11] schestowitz-TR who kept knocking them over while cleaning [12:11] schestowitz-TR removing or detaching some pins from the leds [12:11] schestowitz-TR now the leds are screwed in better [12:11] schestowitz-TR and the external disk holds down the wires under its weight [12:11] schestowitz-TR [12:09] After the latest mega-incident (whole OS and data just died after electric outage) we've set ipfs and gemini @ techrights (among many other things) to back up to external disk automatically every night at 5:10am. That ought to make recovery from disaster a lot more rapid. [12:13] Techrights-sec ack [12:17] schestowitz-TR one russian nukes stops them working [12:17] schestowitz-TR *nuke [12:17] schestowitz-TR a few seconds after the bright flash [12:17] schestowitz-TR OK, I see the fix now in git [12:17] schestowitz-TR no newline [12:24] Techrights-sec ack [12:24] schestowitz-TR nukes are good for pension companies [12:24] schestowitz-TR they help prolong the scheme [12:24] schestowitz-TR much like cancer-causing pills in USA [12:24] schestowitz-TR *spills [12:24] schestowitz-TR the football seasons kicks off today here in england [12:24] schestowitz-TR more covid-19 for more working class "plebs" [12:24] schestowitz-TR to shorten their lives and mess up their brains [12:24] schestowitz-TR under the guise of "freedom" [12:24] schestowitz-TR clcohol (booze) and life-shortening virus [12:25] Techrights-sec probably a million people get drinking water from any given major riverway [12:25] Techrights-sec poisoning the water like that will have long term public health effects, [12:25] Techrights-sec all to the negative, not just for nature and the environment [12:25] Techrights-sec :( [12:27] schestowitz-TR we still washa dn quarantine [12:27] schestowitz-TR food [12:27] schestowitz-TR we still shut the lid before flushing [12:27] schestowitz-TR I read in gemninispace about how people contract the virus [12:27] schestowitz-TR usually relatives [12:27] schestowitz-TR kids of otherwise [12:29] Techrights-sec ack [12:30] schestowitz-TR ANTOHER (previously-unadvertised) way in which having kids shortens your life and elongates youu working (for somebody else) hours [12:30] schestowitz-TR responsible parenting: sending the kids "someplace" to import a nasty virus into your home [12:30] schestowitz-TR with incubation period just about long enough to ensure everyone gets its before it's detectable [12:30] schestowitz-TR and now the US has baby formula shortages (russe for price hikes probably; it's a monopoly, so pric-ce-fixing is easy and there are no "alternatives") [12:30] schestowitz-TR daemonFC said that in walmart they're begun putting baby formula in locked cabinets as if they're jewellery [12:31] Techrights-sec most things are a ruse for price hikes, there has been some (but minimal) [12:31] Techrights-sec reporting on the phenomenon [12:32] DaemonFC daemonFC said that in walmart they're begun putting baby formula in locked cabinets as if they're jewellery [12:32] DaemonFC When it costs $60 to feed your baby for several days, why not? [12:32] DaemonFC I don't know how long a small can of formula lasts, so that's a guess. [12:32] DaemonFC It's really expensive though. [12:33] schestowitz-TR "but it'sssssss yooooo baaaaby" [12:33] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: cheaper to send it back to the womb, then eat lots of bread [12:34] schestowitz-TR then, even the GOP will protect the baby [12:34] schestowitz-TR they are embryophiles [12:35] Techrights-sec ack [12:35] DaemonFC Once you have kids your choices go away. [12:35] DaemonFC All of your choices. [12:36] DaemonFC You won't sleep. [12:36] DaemonFC Even if you do get a short break from work to sleep, the kids will wake you up about something. [12:36] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:39] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:47] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:48] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:54] schestowitz-TR up here in Manc we've had quite a bit of rainfall these past 2 weeks [12:54] schestowitz-TR I hope for no more hosepipe bans for years to come [12:54] schestowitz-TR those bans always happen (obviously) when your grass is yellow and the plants perish [12:55] schestowitz-TR less oxygen [12:55] schestowitz-TR and the place generally looks worse ● Aug 06 [13:12] Techrights-sec ack ● Aug 06 [14:31] schestowitz-TR Englands COVID-19 Deaths in July: 561 in 2020 (Coronavirus Breakout), 1,430 Last Year, 4,199 This Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/06/getting-worse/ [14:31] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Englands COVID-19 Deaths in July: 561 in 2020 (Coronavirus Breakout), 1,430 Last Year, 4,199 This Year [14:32] Techrights-sec back? [14:32] Techrights-sec yep [14:46] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:56] schestowitz-TR Albert Woodfox Dies of COVID-19 https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/5/michael_mable_robert_king_albert_woodfox | Source: Democracy Now [14:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.democracynow.org | Albert Woodfox Dies of COVID; Loved Ones Remember the Life & Legacy of Famed Political Prisoner | Democracy Now! [14:56] schestowitz-TR "died at the age of 75 due to complications tied to COVID-19." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/5/albert_woodfox_black_panthers_angola_three [14:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.democracynow.org | Albert Woodfox in His Own Words on 43 Years in Solitary, the Black Panthers & Fighting Injustice | Democracy Now! [14:57] Techrights-sec ack ● Aug 06 [15:05] schestowitz Marco Fioretti https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/12/nudification-is-for-women-near-you/ [15:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stop.zona-m.net | Nudification is for women NEAR you | Stop at Zona-M [15:05] schestowitz does he smack of a bad person? [15:07] schestowitz-TR but in person? [15:14] schestowitz-TR I'll ignore his feeds from now [15:14] schestowitz-TR I know those clique types [15:14] schestowitz-TR nationality aside [15:14] schestowitz-TR italo, piana, stefanno [15:14] schestowitz-TR the "oopen source" people [15:14] schestowitz-TR piana entered OSI too [15:14] schestowitz-TR like italo and stafano [15:14] schestowitz-TR they have been doing some things I do not like [15:14] schestowitz-TR and are connected not only by lan [15:15] schestowitz-TR and are connected not only by language ● Aug 06 [16:16] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:20] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 06 [17:31] schestowitz-TR charles schultz vanished not so long after he had got a kid [17:31] schestowitz-TR though he was pivotal in LO [17:31] schestowitz-TR and was on a techbytes episode too ● Aug 06 [18:01] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:15] schestowitz-TR he did vanish, but never did something rude [18:17] schestowitz-TR for context, after his great success rallying people around LO IIRC he was hired by OpenMandriva (IIRC) to get people iunvolved, [18:17] schestowitz-TR but the success was very limited [18:17] schestowitz-TR maybe that setback set the scene for quiet cadence [18:30] schestowitz-TR GNU/Linux market share in Hong Kong up to around 5% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/hong-kong/#monthly-200901-202208 [18:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Hong Kong | Statcounter Global Stats [18:30] schestowitz-TR I amk trying to get a better understanding of what's going on [18:30] schestowitz-TR as media certainly does not investigate anything anymoe [18:30] schestowitz-TR linuxtoday became a total shame [18:31] schestowitz-TR Englands COVID-19 Deaths in July: 561 in 2020 (Coronavirus Breakout), 1,430 Last Year, 4,199 This Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/ [18:31] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com [18:31] schestowitz-TR football is BACK today, after 2-3 months [18:31] schestowitz-TR because hey, covid-19 is just some little thing in history anyway [18:32] Techrights-sec ack [18:32] schestowitz-TR Make better vaccines to protect people, not patent monopolies https://michaelwest.com.au/concern-over-low-third-vaccine-dose-rates-2/ [18:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-michaelwest.com.au | Concern over low third vaccine dose rates - Michael West [18:33] schestowitz-TR now they want to do the same with monkeypox without clinical trials [18:33] schestowitz-TR the "new nornal" [18:33] schestowitz-TR the reason regulation exists is past incidents that killed many people [18:33] schestowitz-TR "TRUST COMPANIES!" [18:34] Techrights-sec ack [18:34] Techrights-sec actually they want to reinforce the obedience to companies too [18:37] schestowitz-TR my mom keeps getting reinfected [18:37] schestowitz-TR being ill in bed is the new normal for her [18:37] schestowitz-TR after doses and infections [18:37] schestowitz-TR she thinks this is freedom [18:37] schestowitz-TR though it does leave some permanent damage [18:37] schestowitz-TR I've noticed that people who got infected already are dismissive of the harm [18:37] schestowitz-TR they choose to think it's no big deal, evenm if they insisted so before [18:37] schestowitz-TR like a girl who lost her virginity and starts seleeeping around with anyone [18:40] schestowitz-TR if you've been bed-bound somany times maybe it's about time you just simply reassess all your assumptinos and the stratetygy as a whole [18:40] schestowitz-TR but people are better ajt justifying past behaviour than admitting errors and advising others accoridngly [18:46] Techrights-sec ack [18:46] schestowitz-TR we've been observing with great caution the situation, inc. availability of discounted foods and living expenses in general as licving in [18:46] schestowitz-TR introvert mode or living like a hermit indoors (except exercise and some visits with masks and distances) would be OK, compatible\ [18:46] schestowitz-TR with what we've become accustomed to. if others arer dismissive of this, that's their own business, not ours [18:46] schestowitz-TR but like I said, many are 0imho - doing self harm for the sake of compliance with the nor aka "the new normal" [18:46] schestowitz-TR *norm [18:46] schestowitz-TR case of point: flying [18:46] schestowitz-TR 1980s: I have nice cusion, good meal, no strip searching, not too many people at airport [18:46] schestowitz-TR good service, not "budget" crew [18:46] schestowitz-TR now: security theatre, unreliable budget planes, passengers who barely know how to behave on a bug, no meals, stinking lavatories, long queues, delays [18:46] schestowitz-TR almost every single time, new pews ("securuty") and after covid-19 also test requirements, masks, antiseptic etc. [18:46] schestowitz-TR and risk that you cannot fly back tdue to getting infected at the destrination [18:47] Techrights-sec flying ought to be banned, especially private jets [18:47] Techrights-sec budget planes == price dumping to kill train travel [18:47] Techrights-sec ack [18:49] schestowitz-TR it did not occur to me that weeding out investment in rail/trains was a goal [18:49] schestowitz-TR rails move a low more slowly, but are more spacious and make up for the speed becausse boardinfg i s faster and there's no takeoff/landing [18:49] schestowitz-TR some people here take planes for distances that a train covers in just under 2 hours [18:49] schestowitz-TR the trains here usually leave and arrive on time [18:49] schestowitz-TR unlike planes [18:49] Techrights-sec as far as I know that is one of the main goals -- kill competition either [18:49] Techrights-sec financially or by establising unproductive travel habits [18:55] schestowitz-TR s/rails move/carriages move/ [18:55] schestowitz-TR I've not taken a train or plane or bus since jan 2020 [18:55] schestowitz-TR I did take a taxi though ● Aug 06 [19:56] schestowitz-TR going by the little data we do have, [19:56] schestowitz-TR preparing a quick post [19:56] schestowitz-TR see draft [19:56] schestowitz-TR I think there's something interesting in this data [19:56] schestowitz-TR afaik, china makes no territorial claims to mongolia [19:57] Techrights-sec ack [19:57] Techrights-sec the rate of change would be very important to note there also [19:57] Techrights-sec AFAIK the China - Mongolia war is at a slow simmer, never having really stopped [19:57] Techrights-sec It's certainly not all-out genocide like has been against Tibet for 7 decades [19:57] Techrights-sec Also China is biting of chunks of Kashmir, India and also bits of Pakistan [19:57] Techrights-sec ^off [19:58] schestowitz-TR adding words on pace of expansion [19:58] Techrights-sec In the TM capsule, e.g. [19:58] Techrights-sec gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Raspberry_Pi_Projects_and_News.gmi [19:58] Techrights-sec how should the previous and next links be marked or arranged? [19:58] Techrights-sec Next first and then previous second or as it is now which is previous first [19:58] Techrights-sec and next second? I'd like to avoid tagging them with unicode since that [19:58] Techrights-sec screws up screen readers ● Aug 06 [20:02] schestowitz-TR re gemini, [20:02] schestowitz-TR good question [20:02] schestowitz-TR I wondered the same [20:02] schestowitz-TR let me check again [20:02] schestowitz-TR if instead of unicode you added "next: " it would lead to ambiguity [20:02] schestowitz-TR as we have no #bold# and there would be [20:02] Techrights-sec [20:02] Techrights-sec ack [20:02] Techrights-sec ok [20:02] schestowitz-TR Next: Security: ... . .. [20:02] schestowitz-TR I'm trying to think how other capsules dealt with it [20:02] schestowitz-TR I saw some that draw a calendar with numbers in it [20:02] schestowitz-TR gimme a moment, checking... [20:05] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:08] schestowitz-TR trying to locate an example I had in mind [20:08] schestowitz-TR but search in geminispsace is very limited [20:08] schestowitz-TR how about [NEXT] [20:08] schestowitz-TR and [PREV] [20:08] schestowitz-TR I suppose you saw the NYTimes article on how WWW tortures blind people [20:08] schestowitz-TR I found it in RSS and then saw you had already sent it to me days earlier [20:09] schestowitz-TR I saw it last weekend, i.e. july [20:10] Techrights-sec I'm thinking that it may make the most senst to have the next link first [20:10] Techrights-sec and then the previous link second, the reverse of what we have now [20:10] Techrights-sec that's got symbols in it, some punctuation might be less problematic [20:10] Techrights-sec next: next, [20:10] Techrights-sec not yet [20:10] Techrights-sec just the summary a while ago [20:10] Techrights-sec I can recheck, It was last month, yes, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/technology/ai-web-accessibility.html [20:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | For Blind Internet Users, the Fix Can Be Worse Than the Flaws - The New York Times [20:14] schestowitz-TR don't mean to sound mean, but relatives I speak to talk about ear pain after the shots and/or infection [20:14] schestowitz-TR I think a hearing crisis may be looming [20:14] schestowitz-TR my uncle who was hospitalised (he'll be back home soon, he mailed me last night from hospital) [20:14] schestowitz-TR lost a lot of his hearing in his 70s [20:14] schestowitz-TR when I visited him in 2006 in Davie he was already struggling to hear, even with a piece on [20:14] schestowitz-TR iirc, he blamed it on military service [20:14] schestowitz-TR eardrum damage [20:14] schestowitz-TR rianne's sense of hearing is noticably worse than mine, eyesight it's the opposite [20:14] schestowitz-TR esp. for long distances [20:14] schestowitz-TR prob. due to excessive screen time [20:14] schestowitz-TR If I started driving again, I might need to have lenses/glasses (which I never had) [20:16] schestowitz-TR if the shots started leading to tooth decay and people's teeth started falling off, there would [20:16] schestowitz-TR be outrage, not gaslighting by COVID profiteers-connected media [20:16] Techrights-sec likely [20:16] schestowitz-TR people's ears are fewer and more important than one's teeth [20:16] schestowitz-TR you can get flase teeth, you cannot get artificial hearing [20:16] schestowitz-TR if the shots started leading to tooth decay and people's teeth started falling off, there would [20:16] schestowitz-TR be outrage, not gaslighting by COVID profiteers-connected media [20:18] *Techrights-sec2 is now known as ts2 [20:19] Techrights-sec the compression artifacts from the mobile phones are far worse than anything [20:19] Techrights-sec else since they distort the sound and compound the damage to the sound quality [20:19] Techrights-sec with each lossy algorithm. Some callers are completely unintelligible [20:19] Techrights-sec . [20:20] Techrights-sec nope [20:22] Techrights-sec The worst part (IMO) about the vaccine profiteering is that it seems that they [20:22] Techrights-sec are exploiting the situation and maybe using some of the profit to block [20:22] Techrights-sec development of far more effective vaccines. Work on those seems to have [20:22] Techrights-sec slammed to a halt while a tiny handful of companies colled 25 EUR per patient per dose [20:22] Techrights-sec for vaccines which don't actually halt the spread [20:25] schestowitz-TR I agree 100% [20:25] schestowitz-TR had I not worked from home, my choices would likely be different [20:26] schestowitz-TR rianne has just made a very special tea, bought a 1L teapot of it [20:26] schestowitz-TR *brought [20:26] schestowitz-TR we probably use up a lot of water just sanitising things [20:26] schestowitz-TR but seeing the (aforementioned infection, death, and hospitalisation rates) facts, it would make no sense to curtails this [20:26] schestowitz-TR not or to go BACK to town, given that it was 10 times safer 2 summers ago [20:28] schestowitz https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/the-health-hub/vitamins-and-supplements/supplements/collagen/best-collagen-drinks/ [20:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.hollandandbarrett.com | 9 Of The Best Collagen Drinks 2022 | Holland & Barrett [20:28] schestowitz-TR my bad, it is not tea [20:28] schestowitz-TR she has mader it for day [20:28] schestowitz-TR *days [20:28] schestowitz-TR https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/the-health-hub/vitamins-and-supplements/supplements/collagen/best-collagen-drinks/ [20:28] Techrights-sec ack [20:31] schestowitz-TR the fallback plan has been good diet, supplements, testing when needed [20:31] schestowitz-TR I want to show you something, I'll communicatew it to you in a blog... [20:31] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collagen [20:31] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Collagen - Wikipedia [20:37] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:39] schestowitz-TR UK's COVID-19 Testing Rates Falling to New Lows in Spite of Deaths and Hospitalisations Being About 10 Times Worse Than Summer of 2020 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/06/covid-testing-rates-new-lows/ [20:39] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UKs COVID-19 Testing Rates Falling to New Lows in Spite of Deaths and Hospitalisations Being About 10 Times Worse Than Summer of 2020 [20:39] schestowitz-TR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collagen [20:39] schestowitz-TR I think she bought it based on something she read [20:39] schestowitz-TR I'm making a meme too now [20:42] Techrights-sec also should non-Gemini links have markers? [20:44] schestowitz-TR that would help if not too much work/trouble [20:44] schestowitz-TR the capsule was submitted today [20:44] schestowitz-TR but not any rss feed [20:44] schestowitz-TR Google picked up the new site without any intervention [20:44] schestowitz-TR I assume it saw links in irc logs and started processing pages [20:44] schestowitz-TR at least they say it's alpha at the very top [20:44] schestowitz-TR after cloning the pi to another usb stick I'll sort out IPFS [20:44] schestowitz-TR I want ipfs to work on another surface if possivle [20:45] schestowitz-TR gemini is very light i/o-wise [20:47] Techrights-sec ok [20:49] schestowitz-TR "I got into Gemini more or less at the culmination of my techno-minimalism phase. I'd gotten annoyed with "bloat" and considered the WWW a massive disaster." gemini://samsai.eu/gemlog/2022-08-06-heartbeat-signal.gemini [20:49] Techrights-sec ack [20:49] schestowitz-TR I've finished many of the weekend tasks already [20:49] schestowitz-TR so can do projects and such [20:49] schestowitz-TR I've finished many of the weekend tasks already [20:49] schestowitz-TR so can do projects and such ● Aug 06 [21:04] schestowitz-TR got the changes showing [21:04] schestowitz-TR + $text = " ".$text; [21:04] schestowitz-TR ytalk does not handle those symbols well [21:04] schestowitz-TR just looked at all 6 new blocks [21:04] schestowitz-TR @@ -842,7 +842,12 @@ sub xhtml_to_gemtext { [21:04] schestowitz-TR trailing space atr end of third line: [21:04] schestowitz-TR + $text = " ".$text; [21:04] schestowitz-TR I only noticed because I know how strict TR's repo is [21:04] schestowitz-TR I have a script to automate removing trailing spaces [21:04] schestowitz_log REMOVE TRAILING SPACE: sed -i 's/[[:space:]]*$//' functions.php [21:07] Techrights-sec ack [21:07] Techrights-sec the commit message might be more useful than the code itself in ytalk [21:07] Techrights-sec there feels like there is a bit of redunancy there, I think it is consistent [21:07] Techrights-sec enough that it can be split off into a function [21:07] Techrights-sec ok the hooks never get checked out / cloned along with the rest of the [21:07] Techrights-sec repository, that's one check that always has to be redone [21:07] Techrights-sec It'll be checked automatically [21:07] Techrights-sec One can set up a lot of hooks but they can easily get lost, destroyed, or [21:07] Techrights-sec overwritten [21:07] Techrights-sec The pre-commit hook now checks for various whitespace problems including [21:07] Techrights-sec trailing whitespace and will block the commit until they are fixed, but [21:07] Techrights-sec as mentioned hooks can get lost, destroyed, or overwritten all too easily [21:07] Techrights-sec Hmm. Git won't allow .git/hooks/pre-commit to be added to the repository [21:07] Techrights-sec So this problem is fixed for now but could likely happen again in the future. [21:07] Techrights-sec when a new clone is made. [21:12] schestowitz-TR I am grateful that I get real-time alerts about pushes and then, at my time of convenience, I run one [21:12] schestowitz-TR command to see what was changed in the window adjacement to ytalk [21:12] schestowitz-TR it's a good cli-based collaboration tool and runs over ssh [21:12] schestowitz-TR with deers in the background (translucent terminals *deer [21:12] schestowitz-TR *adjacent [21:12] schestowitz-TR I will refine it some more over time, it seems like something that's worth investing in [21:12] schestowitz-TR btw, this morning I checked all the gz files (backups) [21:12] schestowitz-TR all are fine, that problem was qemu when i/o was very high [21:12] schestowitz-TR kaniini upgraded qemu [21:12] schestowitz-TR so I could cross out (intend) this TODO off my list [21:14] schestowitz-TR all those backups are made around 4:30am [21:14] schestowitz-TR the tuxmachines temote backup is around 5pm [21:14] schestowitz-TR local at 5:10am [21:14] schestowitz-TR to cover 12-hour priods [21:14] schestowitz-TR I will stillr evert back to 27/6/22 version (TM) at some point [21:14] schestowitz-TR after making static copies of all nodes after that date, then redirect the requests [21:14] schestowitz-TR as some old nodes got damaged with the DB recoveries [21:20] Techrights-sec ack ● Aug 06 [22:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@akemt93bi4a9y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:14] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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