●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 06, 2022 ●● ● Oct 06 [00:40] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 06 [01:02] schestowitz-TR for a complete www backup of TM on my machine, gz is 680mb [01:02] schestowitz-TR grew about 100mb since a month ago [01:03] schestowitz-TR so think 1200mb increase per year (compressed) [01:28] starstreak thats not bad [01:35] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.it/_______dev/status/1577814655304704003#m [01:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-- (@_______dev): "Microsoft/CIA love them so much, no wonder why https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/25/microsoft_accused_of_corrupt_business/ http://techrights.org/2014/05/28/microsoft-brazil/"|nitter.it ● Oct 06 [02:09] DaemonFC Fucking Walmart. [02:09] DaemonFC Their Web site firewall stops me from doing my shopping if it thinks I'm not in the US. 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[08:35] Techrights-sec It is up and running again now but, not having touched the configurations, [08:35] Techrights-sec it is still a mess behind the scenes. [08:35] Techrights-sec The steps used to make the current certificate are in mk-self-signed.sh [08:35] Techrights-sec However, I am not sure how much closer that gets to solving the problem [08:35] Techrights-sec with the testing site: [08:35] Techrights-sec https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=techrights.org [08:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ssllabs.com | SSL Server Test: techrights.org (Powered by Qualys SSL Labs) [08:37] schestowitz-TR thanks, I overslept again, but anyway not many [topics] to cover [08:37] schestowitz-TR so time is sufficient [08:45] Techrights-sec np [08:46] schestowitz-TR one thing I noticed is, about 5 years ago half the 'articles' in phoronix became just a mailing list message [08:46] schestowitz-TR with light commentary added [08:46] schestowitz-TR later he added photos like TM, also for categories [08:46] schestowitz-TR maybe even inspired by it (it was his biggest source of traffic, accoriding to alexa) [08:46] schestowitz-TR but here is the thing: [08:46] schestowitz-TR that site too runs out ofn topics [08:46] schestowitz-TR and compensates with clickbait [08:46] Techrights-sec possible topic: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/05/1412249 [08:46] Techrights-sec ack [08:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | You Don't Own the Software You Bought, You Own a License - SoylentNews [08:46] Techrights-sec https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/04/you_cannot_buy_software/ [08:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | You thought you bought software all you bought was a lie The Register [08:47] schestowitz-TR clickbait=wasting people's time, possible annoying them [08:47] schestowitz-TR *possibly [08:47] Techrights-sec The Register mentions FOSS by name, specifically [08:48] schestowitz-TR yes, liam proven is OK [08:48] schestowitz-TR I think we both read his own blog too [08:48] schestowitz-TR with FOSS you at least trul ownsomething in some sense [08:48] schestowitz-TR can modify, sell etc. at least pass on... [08:50] Techrights-sec ^topic ? [08:50] mjg59_ Phoronix has *always* been rephrased mailing list messages [08:50] schestowitz-TR yes, copying notesyes, copying notes [08:50] mjg59_ Michael has never actually understood any of the stuff he's writing about [08:55] Techrights-sec having caused a world full of security problems through bad design and [08:55] Techrights-sec implementation, m$ is wrongfully posing as a leader in data protection; [08:55] Techrights-sec problems cannot generally be solved by the same people and methods as [08:55] Techrights-sec caused them to begin with; [08:55] Techrights-sec ^ topic ? [08:57] schestowitz-TR I'll hawk or watch out for any new items in the news that reaffirm this deception [08:57] schestowitz-TR there's one almost every day ● Oct 06 [09:01] schestowitz-TR i cannot quite recall the last time the FSF published an essay [09:01] schestowitz-TR it did some formal calls for talks and announced times for IRC sessions [09:01] schestowitz-TR but those are "meta" [09:01] schestowitz-TR GNU used to routinely have some new articles from RMS [09:01] schestowitz-TR he still writes some, but less than in prior years [09:01] schestowitz-TR pointing this out is scattering salt over wounds, hence not a topid [09:01] schestowitz-TR the other day there were some good irc discussions about erosion of rights due to [09:01] schestowitz-TR digitisation [09:01] schestowitz-TR but I cannot quite recall all the pertinent details anymore, let alone the context [09:06] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:06] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:07] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:07] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:08] schestowitz-TR Thus spake the master programmer: time for you to leave. gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/05.1 [09:13] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:14] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [09:19] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:20] Techrights-sec Can the details be looked up from the logs? It too would be a good topic. [09:20] Techrights-sec 1) https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hundreds-of-microsoft-sql-servers-backdoored-with-new-malware/ [09:20] Techrights-sec 2) https://ubuntu.com//blog/microsoft-sql-server-on-ubuntu [09:20] Techrights-sec 3) profit!! [09:20] Techrights-sec though technically that is running within "drawbridge" and not within Ubuntu [09:20] Techrights-sec itself [09:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Hundreds of Microsoft SQL servers backdoored with new malware [09:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The benefits of running Microsoft SQL Server on Ubuntu Pro | Ubuntu [09:23] Techrights-sec https://threedots.ovh/blog/2021/01/drawbridge-what-sql-server-on-linux-is-built-on/ [09:23] Techrights-sec Best though to focus on the real tools which m$ tries to draw people away from: [09:23] Techrights-sec postgresql, mariadb, sqlite3, etc [09:23] Techrights-sec ^ topic ? [09:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-threedots.ovh | Drawbridge: what SQL Server on Linux is built on random blog [09:23] schestowitz-TR yes, adding to notes [09:30] schestowitz-TR side topic, re microsoft and others [09:30] schestowitz-TR people tend to wrongly assume that if you act nice or appease a bullyy or sociopaths things will improve [09:30] schestowitz-TR and they will leave you alone [09:30] schestowitz-TR but that's wrong [09:30] schestowitz-TR sociopaths do not think like healthy people [09:30] mjg59_ You do demonstrate that pretty clearly [09:33] schestowitz-TR roy noorda learned this from experience and the same seems tro be applicable to a certain kind of trolls [09:33] schestowitz-TR *ray [09:37] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:37] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:51] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:52] Techrights-sec appeasement never works; furthermore they are, as you point out, incorrect [09:52] Techrights-sec in projecting their values onto a group which is ideologically, diametrically [09:52] Techrights-sec opposed to those very values. [09:52] schestowitz-TR I think if today and tomorrow (off work) I spend just all the time keeping TM in good form and up to date (speed), [09:52] schestowitz-TR that alone would be nice [09:52] schestowitz-TR but I will try to do videos in "chains" again [09:52] schestowitz-TR it's a lot more efficient when done this way, the hard part is gathering enough deent topic and brainstorming [09:52] schestowitz-TR if the idea come by reading other sites, they may not be original [09:52] schestowitz-TR and can be covered properly by clustering related coverage with some editorial comments (imho) [09:53] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Oct 06 [10:00] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/2016/03/05/psychopath-vs-sociopath/ [10:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Guest Post: Whats the Difference Between a Psychopath and a Sociopath? | Techrights [10:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:02] schestowitz-TR you know what sorts of things noorda said about ballmer and gates after they had buried him with fake "kindness" [10:02] schestowitz-TR so I'll spare the quote seeking [10:02] schestowitz-TR either way, canonical and MarkS are maybe not malicious, but their playing along is a malignant cancer that spreads upstream [10:03] Techrights-sec Sufficiently advance incompetence is indistinguishable from malice :/ [10:05] schestowitz-TR MarkS is not mean-spirited, I spoke to him before [10:05] schestowitz-TR his business was not profitable [10:05] schestowitz-TR so he has canned the CEO and is experimenting with all sorts of approaches [10:05] schestowitz-TR all that GAFAM hoddling, IME, gives THEM benefits, little of benefiot to Ubuntu [10:05] schestowitz-TR and to gnu/linux in general [10:05] schestowitz-TR it's an experiment and it harms the brand, even the viability of the company [10:05] schestowitz-TR quite a few key people resigned [10:05] schestowitz-TR but I cannot claim to know the true reasons [10:05] schestowitz-TR I could look up some names and positions, based on memory [10:05] schestowitz-TR same thing happed in red hat [10:05] schestowitz-TR 3 CEOs in 3 years [10:10] psydruid is Canonical doing well financially [10:13] schestowitz-TR they claims so now [10:13] schestowitz-TR after many eyars of losses [10:13] schestowitz-TR but sellouts are like this [10:13] schestowitz-TR you make a little in the SHORT-TERM [10:13] schestowitz-TR but screwing those whom you counted on [10:13] schestowitz-TR Techrights-sec: [10:13] schestowitz-TR even UK Conservatives have been more StrongAndStable than this [10:13] schestowitz-TR the turnover PM-wise [10:13] schestowitz-TR I need not say 'too' much about UK politics atm [10:13] schestowitz-TR as there's an application to be assessed [10:23] schestowitz-TR psydruid: to put it another way, with far fewer typos ;-) Canonical closed bug #1 in Ubuntu and basically changed the mission [10:23] schestowitz-TR but it already invested a lot of money in farming goodwill [10:23] schestowitz-TR like volunteers' time (support in forums, wiki, advocacy) [10:23] schestowitz-TR so it is burning what it invested in [10:24] schestowitz-TR in hope that the new mission or 'Plan b' will pay off [10:24] schestowitz-TR Mandriva was royally pissed off when MarkS openly moaned there was no money in the desktop market [10:24] schestowitz-TR because Mandriva did have a plana [10:24] schestowitz-TR and the plan wasn't ShipIt -- using deep pockets to make it comvenient for people to 'choose' Ubuntu [10:25] schestowitz-TR it was not long after that... that MarkS sucked up to Azure in public [10:25] schestowitz-TR and tried to rebrand as "clown" [10:25] schestowitz-TR IMHO, unless there are MASSIVE price hikes (there are; I see it in ByteMark UK) [10:26] schestowitz-TR the whole clown business model will benefit very few [10:26] schestowitz-TR even webhosting was never a ver lucrative buisness [10:26] schestowitz-TR lots of money and time spent maintainig the servers and helping clients [10:26] schestowitz-TR mitigating securityy incidents [10:26] schestowitz-TR with hope that one day, over time, there will be profits [10:26] schestowitz-TR where I work we provide support [10:27] schestowitz-TR the hosts aren't us, not anymore [10:27] schestowitz-TR we no longer use our premises for the hosting [10:27] schestowitz-TR it's a lot of trouble [10:27] schestowitz-TR like, when ISP problems happen [10:27] schestowitz-TR and then you have to send staff after midnight to the rack [10:27] schestowitz-TR the following day that staff is far too tired to function [10:28] schestowitz-TR clown computing bills are soaring [10:28] schestowitz-TR of course they use "energy crisis" as a pretext, even if energy isn't the highest cost component [10:30] psydruid "energy crisis" seems to be mostly a European thing [10:31] schestowitz-TR if russia does not export through east europe, it has a surplus to send to china dn toehrs [10:31] schestowitz-TR the cynic in me says, china/wuhan did a one-two punch [10:31] schestowitz-TR and then russia comes with the suppercut [10:31] schestowitz-TR *upper [10:31] schestowitz-TR brexit was promoted by groups that had enjoyed russian media's support [10:31] schestowitz-TR they divide and rule europe [10:32] Techrights-sec ack [10:32] psydruid I've read that in some countries, possibly including Russia, using local cloud is becoming mandatory for at least some businesses [10:33] Techrights-sec Yes with the inappropriately premature closure of bug #1, Ubuntu changed [10:33] Techrights-sec missions about 180 degrees away from the community it is dependent on. [10:34] psydruid I noticed Ubuntu became buggier in 2019 [10:34] schestowitz-TR and debian? [10:34] psydruid and Debian started working better than before [10:35] psydruid so I stopped evaluating Ubuntu at that point [10:35] schestowitz-TR that's great news [10:35] schestowitz-TR I first installed debian ages ago [10:35] psydruid I'll get rid of all Ubuntu installs for relatives and myself by the end of the year [10:36] schestowitz-TR and also had it on a server around 2010 [10:36] schestowitz-TR in 2020 both rianne and I used it as daily driver with kde [10:36] schestowitz-TR then my sister too [10:36] schestowitz-TR debian 10 is very very solid [10:36] schestowitz-TR and predictable [10:36] schestowitz-TR debian 11 is not too bad, but "upgrading" from 10 to 11 is not a great idea [10:36] schestowitz-TR maybe fresh install.. maybe [10:37] schestowitz-TR my sister had a ton of issues when upgrading to it [10:37] psydruid It's not that I didn't try [10:37] psydruid Ubuntu didn't work correctly on multiple architectures whereas Debian simply didn't have those problems [10:37] schestowitz-TR like old things only worked in 10 [10:37] schestowitz-TR so i told her, why did you move? pressure from work [10:37] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[10:38] Techrights-sec [10:38] Techrights-sec ack [10:39] schestowitz-TR the funny thing is, i think vista 10 -> 11 is similar scenario [10:39] schestowitz-TR but inherently different systems [10:39] schestowitz-TR one serves the master (company) [10:39] schestowitz-TR the other claims to prioritise users [10:39] schestowitz-TR iceweasel showed how far Debian would go to PREVENT what Canonical did with Amazon [10:39] psydruid vista 10 is slower than vista 11 in a virtual machine for some reason [10:39] schestowitz-TR or Mozilla did with only TM back then [10:39] schestowitz-TR before Firefox became spyware [10:40] psydruid but it's just another layer of lipstick on the same pig [10:40] psydruid not something you can rely on for anything [10:40] schestowitz-TR microsoft needs to slow down market erosion [10:40] schestowitz-TR india (1500 million people) is not buying new PCs [10:41] schestowitz-TR Sam Varghese showed the figures 2 weeks ago [10:41] schestowitz-TR sales plunged [10:41] schestowitz-TR so people recycle old ones, I assume [10:41] psydruid I can understand that [10:41] schestowitz-TR with Indian distros [10:41] schestowitz-TR gnu/linux climbed to 10% there this month [10:41] psydruid my machines are all 5-6 years old [10:41] schestowitz-TR to me, the only explanation is, people check what can be done with the old PCs [10:42] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:42] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:42] psydruid and work just fine with Debian [10:42] schestowitz-TR mine are about the same agwe [10:42] schestowitz-TR 2015, 16,17 [10:42] schestowitz-TR the pi is 2020 [10:43] schestowitz-TR pcworld is offloading lots of machines that cannot run vista 11 [10:43] schestowitz-TR sold like 50% or less RRP [10:43] Techrights-sec Debian is a lot less solid with systemd now [10:43] psydruid even KDE Plasma works better again for me now that I am on Bookworm [10:43] psydruid but I know what I'm doing and install LTS for others [10:44] psydruid my newest machine is a used Jetson Nano from 2019 [10:46] schestowitz-TR nano does debian mostly iirc [10:46] schestowitz-TR not sure if by default [10:46] schestowitz-TR and it's not so cheap [10:46] schestowitz-TR probably doing graphics well, due to nvidia being involved [10:46] schestowitz-TR the pi machines are getting harder to get [10:46] schestowitz-TR and expensive if youdo find them [10:46] schestowitz-TR from less official "channels" [10:47] schestowitz-TR I'm glad rianne bought one, barely, just before the war erupted [10:47] schestowitz-TR she got a raspi400 for about 65 pounds inc. adapter and shipping, iirc [10:47] psydruid I got it for 30 [10:47] schestowitz-TR Techrights-sec helped find it online [10:47] schestowitz-TR at first they had none in stock [10:47] schestowitz-TR and she signed up for alerts [10:47] schestowitz-TR day later they got shipment arriving and within hours we reserved and bought it [10:49] schestowitz-TR is gaRUDA ANY GOOD, psydruid? [10:49] schestowitz-TR SORRY, CAPS [10:50] schestowitz-TR psydruid: TYPING WHILE EATING [10:50] psydruid businesses appear to be buying lots of pis [10:50] psydruid I don't know why production isn't higher than it is right now [10:50] psydruid I don't know, I don't use fancy distros [10:51] schestowitz-TR I HEARD GOOD THINGS [10:51] schestowitz-TR ffs, caps lock [10:54] psydruid I've settled on debian because it generally works, has most of the software I need and takes some of the work out of my hands so I can focus on other things [10:55] psydruid probably the same argument as Linus for settling on Fedora ● Oct 06 [11:03] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@j5ewvgmqr9anu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:05] schestowitz-TR yeah, he is still on fedora [11:05] schestowitz-TR based on last month's report [11:19] schestowitz-TR re apple story, better if corrupted scotus does not touch anything that can 'overturn' alice [11:19] schestowitz-TR side notes: mancity 'thrashed' copenhagen fc 5-0 [11:19] schestowitz-TR today we'll have more covid figures at 4pm [11:19] schestowitz-TR i used to be able to write more when disclosurees were daily [11:19] schestowitz-TR argued with nhs clerical staff yesterdaty about the public safety [11:19] schestowitz-TR covidiots get facts from other covidiots [11:19] schestowitz-TR they think this thing is over because they bought a product (or 3 doses of it) [11:19] schestowitz-TR hence, it's not safe to go shopping for other products and watch football [11:19] schestowitz-TR that causes further mutation [11:21] Techrights-sec Yes overturning Alice is a possibility there. I cannot guess at the risk though [11:21] schestowitz-TR the furher mutation lessens the incentive to get "old" products which target a phanton enemy [11:21] schestowitz-TR which already mutated yesrs ago [11:21] schestowitz-TR like superbugs in the context of antiviotics [11:21] schestowitz-TR but virus is different [11:21] schestowitz-TR tell that to people who take horse 'medicine' for a virus [11:28] schestowitz-TR "Cops kill dogs literally all the time. It happens so often even the DOJ has taken notice." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/05/court-strips-immunity-from-cop-who-shot-a-dog-within-seconds-of-arriving-on-the-scene-of-a-non-crime/ | Source: Techdirt [11:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Court Strips Immunity From Cop Who Shot A Dog Within Seconds Of Arriving On The Scene Of A Non-Crime | Techdirt [11:28] schestowitz-TR draft [11:31] Techrights-sec checking [11:32] Techrights-sec What is the yellowish line in the charts? [11:32] Techrights-sec There are rectangles in the charts saying "linux" but which line do they refer [11:32] Techrights-sec to? The key at the bottom does not have the yellowish color listed. [11:34] schestowitz-TR right [11:34] schestowitz-TR I'll leave that as is in drafts [11:34] schestowitz-TR and do a video about it along with the rest [11:34] schestowitz-TR I can also mention norway and finland in passing [11:34] schestowitz-TR but they are small populations [11:34] schestowitz-TR the goal is to explain why windows is shrinking and where [11:34] schestowitz-TR it'll take a while to get around to videos [11:34] schestowitz-TR I'm still going through Links [11:54] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 06 [12:33] schestowitz-TR "GAFAM"... our coined term is spreading!! gemini://gemini.astropirados.space/gemlog/instagram.gmi ● Oct 06 [13:16] Techrights-sec USPTO going rogue: https://www.lightreading.com/5g/uspto-study-everyones-winner-in-5g-patents/d/d-id/776174 [13:16] Techrights-sec ^ topic [13:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.lightreading.com/5g/uspto-study-everyones-winner-in-5g-patents/d/d-id/776174 ) [13:16] Techrights-sec RPi could have easily avoided all that damage, their selling out a little [13:16] Techrights-sec probably lead to them selling out a lot by including microsofters inside [13:16] Techrights-sec the company and on the board :( [13:16] Techrights-sec Certainly many of their staff have turned out to be rats. [13:16] Techrights-sec and working against RPi and for M$ while on the clock. [13:17] schestowitz-TR we did millions in damages to raspi ltd after calling them out [13:17] schestowitz-TR they paid a price for bad deal, likely under nda [13:17] schestowitz-TR with 2 obligatory blog posts shilling vs and azure ● Oct 06 [14:06] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.14 [SeaMonkey 2.53.14/20221003001100]) [14:10] schestowitz-TR "From the way that the Anglo media are treating the October 2 Brazilian first-round presidential elections, a casual news consumer may get the impression that the Brazilian Workers Party suffered a crushing defeat." https://fair.org/home/media-spin-lula-victory-as-defeat/ | Source: FAIR [14:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Media Spin Lula Victory as Defeat - FAIR [14:10] schestowitz-TR ^ media digging its own grave [14:10] Techrights-sec ack [14:11] schestowitz-TR linkedin = scams [14:11] schestowitz-TR microsoft: not our department, blame foss [14:11] schestowitz-TR zdent: microsoft victim of foss [14:14] Techrights-sec The media sure helps them with all that misdirection. [14:15] schestowitz-TR disinformation as a service [14:15] schestowitz-TR just finished Links [14:16] schestowitz-TR doing RSS now [14:16] schestowitz-TR later the videos [14:16] schestowitz-TR because i don't want TM to be "bhind" [14:16] schestowitz-TR the speed is a key advantage [14:16] schestowitz-TR rianne barely finds anything worthy today [14:16] schestowitz-TR and hasn't been lately, either [14:16] schestowitz-TR I need to ghroup things to make them worthy of posting, power in numbers [14:16] schestowitz-TR but this is not limited to FOSS [14:16] schestowitz-TR it's a "desert" issue [14:24] Techrights-sec ack [14:39] schestowitz-TR rianne has a good sense or smell for SMFT BS [14:39] schestowitz-TR this morning she mentioned that she noticed linuxlinks and itsfoss onclude many pro-Microsoft BS sentences [14:39] schestowitz-TR and that she needs to work around them [14:39] schestowitz-TR she doesn't know all the publishers' history and people [14:39] schestowitz-TR but learns frome xperience over time [14:39] schestowitz-TR it's also why curation cannot be automated [14:39] Techrights-sec Good call. She's also super-fast in finding material for TM too. Speed [14:39] Techrights-sec is a huge advantage. [14:40] schestowitz-TR marius having direct access helps [14:45] schestowitz-TR two key factor: expoerience with rss readers (fast is hard, also dupe detection/recognition... needs human understanding... helps with clustering.. Gulag [14:45] schestowitz-TR Noise gets the clustering wrong a LOT) [14:45] schestowitz-TR momentum: no audience, no incentive to do the above and fast, i.e. very often [14:45] schestowitz-TR chick-and-egg [14:45] schestowitz-TR *chicken [14:45] schestowitz-TR Google is clustering things based on keywords in headlines [14:45] schestowitz-TR but then connected totally unrelated stories [14:45] schestowitz-TR maybe Gulag Noise will be next product to be canned... for an inferior "replacement" [14:45] schestowitz-TR like they do with voice calls [14:45] psydruid RPi siding with MSFT didn't bring them much other than influencing the next generation of free software developers into becoming dependent on closed source MSFT tools [14:46] schestowitz-TR to sjvn, the current editorial workflow lessens the incentive to break neews [14:46] schestowitz-TR the "breaking news" can come out 3 days late. LOL [14:58] Techrights-sec RPi's siding with MSFT was not about benefit to RPi, but to MSFT at the expense [14:58] Techrights-sec of the RPi community and ecosystem [14:58] schestowitz-TR in deals with Microsoft only one side benefits ● Oct 06 [15:00] Techrights-sec Duplicate detection based on URL is "easy" but based on topic or, worse, theme [15:00] Techrights-sec is very hard. [15:00] Techrights-sec No company has ever survived a partnership with M$; RPi won't, that's for sure [15:00] Techrights-sec just looking at the way things have been heading since they flubbed that [15:00] Techrights-sec decision. [15:00] schestowitz-TR they won't be first to survive this [15:00] schestowitz-TR but it seems like for 20 months almost no more Microsoft sellout, at least not in the open [15:00] schestowitz-TR i know about the ads and the board [15:09] psydruid there are few who have even tried to run Vista on RPi hardware [15:09] psydruid and if more people did, that would make AMD and Intel and their OEMs unhappy [15:09] psydruid so there isn't much to win for MSFT either [15:10] psydruid except for retaining the status quo [15:10] schestowitz-TR the goal is to sabotage pi [15:10] psydruid which is going away too [15:10] schestowitz-TR like they did olpc/xo [15:10] schestowitz-TR or turn those users into azure/vs drones [15:18] Techrights-sec Aside from financialization, M$ makes its money off of monopoly rents so [15:18] Techrights-sec maintaining the monopoly is the only way to stay afloat. As we see from [15:18] Techrights-sec their failed profits which are smaller than the government bailouts, that [15:18] Techrights-sec is no longer working. Below ~ 85% market share in their OEM monopoly or [15:18] Techrights-sec in their productivity software file format monopoly they cannot charge rents. [15:18] Techrights-sec Poof. Their goes their income source. [15:20] schestowitz-TR Microsoft 2021: we are worth 2000 billion dollars [15:20] schestowitz-TR Microsoft 2020: we are firing 20,000 workers [15:20] schestowitz-TR Microsoft 2022^ [15:32] Techrights-sec The Azure layoffs are the most interesting because the are going to such [15:32] Techrights-sec great efforts to pretend that the division is going ok when it's clearly losing [15:32] Techrights-sec money. [15:32] Techrights-sec [15:34] schestowitz-TR clown is like "metaverse" [15:34] schestowitz-TR it's bluff to keep shareholders around [15:34] schestowitz-TR twitter and FB have lots of fluff going on [15:34] schestowitz-TR you know youtube cannot make money based on the latest self-harming moves [15:34] schestowitz-TR people don't harm themselves just for fun [15:34] Techrights-sec Bill has two business skills and shoehorns every strategy into them: [15:34] Techrights-sec 1) extend an existing monopoly, 2) bluff like crazy [15:36] schestowitz-TR ryan says 'billburgers' are failing badly [15:36] schestowitz-TR in this kind of economy no wonders [15:36] schestowitz-TR the price collapsed [15:36] schestowitz-TR nobody buys them [15:36] schestowitz-TR rianne get slots of these products on the pennies [15:36] schestowitz-TR who would buy this overpriced shit at this time? [15:36] schestowitz-TR even meat and milk (and anything absed on them) got a lot more expensive [15:36] Techrights-sec The US and perhaps several other markets appear to have been in a recession [15:36] Techrights-sec for a few decades with occasional dips into actual depression, at least [15:36] Techrights-sec according to the old-style definitions. [15:38] schestowitz-TR today in TR IRC we spoke about real unemploymenr rate [15:38] schestowitz-TR dc went off topic, as usual [15:38] schestowitz-TR i hope the price of popcorn (cord) does not change [15:38] schestowitz-TR for some of us not having kids is enough for reprieve [15:38] schestowitz-TR there is apparentyly also a bewingf mental health crisis [15:38] schestowitz-TR impacting kids in particular [15:38] schestowitz-TR (I know a few) [15:52] schestowitz-TR new covid numbers in 8 mins [15:52] schestowitz-TR i think i finished meeting people for the year [15:52] schestowitz-TR one meeting tomorrow, then that's it [15:52] schestowitz-TR estimates are 2 million infested atm [15:52] schestowitz-TR and rising fast [15:52] Techrights-sec ack [15:52] Techrights-sec Social control media on its own is a health crisis. However, it is greatly [15:52] Techrights-sec amplified by the distancing / lockdown which feed even more misues of it. [15:52] Techrights-sec Then there are all the cuts to activities and similar budgets hidden by [15:52] Techrights-sec the pandemic. ● Oct 06 [16:01] schestowitz-TR NHS late to release this week's figures, which should be posted daily, not weekly https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?nocache "Last updated on Thursday, 29 September 2022 at 4:00pm" [16:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?nocache ) [16:03] schestowitz-TR results minutes late: "did you try retsarting the program?" [16:03] schestowitz-TR results hours late: "did you try restarting the computer?" [16:03] schestowitz-TR results days late: "did you try reinstalling the OS or buy a new PC?" [16:22] Techrights-sec restarting the program / system as a "solution" comes from Windows ability [16:22] Techrights-sec to crash for no reason after minutes or seconds of uptime. It would also freeze [16:22] Techrights-sec a lot too necessitating use of the debugging sequence ctrl-alt-del : [16:22] Techrights-sec """ [16:22] Techrights-sec https://www.geekwire.com/2013/rest-story-controlaltdelete-inventor-expeIt was like a five-minute job in doing it. I didnt realize I was going to create a [16:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.geekwire.com/2013/rest-story-controlaltdelete-inventor-expeIt ) [16:22] Techrights-sec cultural icon when I did it, he said. But I have to share the credit. I may have invented it, but I think Bill made it famous. [16:22] Techrights-sec """ [16:22] Techrights-sec https://www.geekwire.com/2013/rest-story-controlaltdelete-inventor-expect-command-widely/ [16:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The rest of the story: Control-Alt-Delete inventor didn't expect it to be widely used GeekWire [16:22] Techrights-sec It still crashes often, but maybe not quite as often, and reboots so that [16:22] Techrights-sec useds forget quickly about it and try to pick up with their tasks where [16:22] Techrights-sec they left off. A real dollar value on the increased productivity a nation [16:22] Techrights-sec would benefit from could be calculated for migrating to GNU/Linux, *BSD, [16:22] Techrights-sec or even MacOS. Most current spam would disappear as would > 99% of the world's [16:22] Techrights-sec malware, and more or less 100% of the world's ransomware. [16:22] Techrights-sec Rebooting the system is superstition not repair. [16:22] Techrights-sec But the masses have been trained to accept it. [16:23] schestowitz-TR also after installing a program [16:26] schestowitz-TR from what I have read the opec policy was an agreement between ksa and russia [16:26] schestowitz-TR so you know putrler pulls strings still [16:26] schestowitz-TR he had it easy during trump [16:26] schestowitz-TR many institutions have failed to remove the tainted parts [16:26] schestowitz-TR inc. scotus [16:27] schestowitz-TR lol! nhs: only minutes ago: the data will be ready an hour later. must be a reboot then ;-) [16:27] schestowitz-TR maybe they even lost some data because excel crashes :-) [16:32] schestowitz-TR NHS: After Worst Summer Ever We Release Data Weekly, Not Daily Anymore (and Scotland Stops Reporting). Now: Cannot Even Release Every Week! https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/late-nhs/ [16:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive NHS: After Worst Summer Ever We Release Data Weekly, Not Daily Anymore (and Scotland Stops Reporting). Now: Cannot Even Release Every Week! ● Oct 06 [17:02] schestowitz-TR 5pm. still npo data. [17:02] schestowitz-TR *no [17:13] schestowitz-TR campbell now self-censors far too much to be informative [17:13] schestowitz-TR I think that on that bnasis alone I will can him [17:13] schestowitz-TR he cannot speak his mind out [17:23] schestowitz-TR New NHS Data: COVID-19 Hospitalisations at Start of October 2022 Are 3+ Times Worse Than in 2020 and Twice as Bad as Last Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/covid-19-hospitalisations-october/ [17:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive New NHS Data: COVID-19 Hospitalisations at Start of October 2022 Are 3+ Times Worse Than in 2020 and Twice as Bad as Last Year [17:43] schestowitz-TR headsup: i try to get a little more involved in techpol irc [17:43] schestowitz-TR not much but a little [17:43] schestowitz-TR it gets shown in -social at the bottom [17:43] schestowitz-TR OTAx3 (I think, 2 at least) [17:43] Techrights-sec np [17:43] Techrights-sec Maybe responses from the main channel but which are off topic can be responded [17:43] Techrights-sec to there also. ● Oct 06 [18:17] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:30] schestowitz-TR done [18:30] schestowitz-TR yes, that's a good solution ● Oct 06 [19:56] schestowitz-TR draft [19:56] schestowitz-TR working on the next 2 as well, in tandem [19:56] schestowitz-TR drafy - sql server [19:56] schestowitz-TR last draft left now re market share [19:56] Techrights-sec ack [19:56] Techrights-sec checking [19:56] Techrights-sec ok [19:57] schestowitz-TR after this rianne and I will "clean the feeds" ● Oct 06 [20:01] Techrights-sec the lines need to be labeled, what is the beige / yellowish line? [20:01] Techrights-sec it is not in the key [20:47] schestowitz-TR Latest COVID-19 Data: Back to 10,000 Patients in English Hospitals (Double What It Was Last Year, 3+ Times Worse Than 2020) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/covid-19-september-october-hospital/ [20:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Latest COVID-19 Data: Back to 10,000 Patients in English Hospitals (Double What It Was Last Year, 3+ Times Worse Than 2020) ● Oct 06 [22:24] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [22:45] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@htpuvr4cww4eq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:50] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:59] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 06 [23:27] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell