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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pdqY0hQoscyAwJFvkDec 06 01:04
schestowitz"you mean that people _don't_ want to buy a license and install Windows to install Linux instead of... just installing Linux??"Dec 06 01:04
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pe0bfMT5y76hEt052Dec 06 01:04
schestowitz"Dec 06 01:04
schestowitzI do not know.Dec 06 01:04
schestowitzIt works this morning.Dec 06 01:04
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schestowitz"Dec 06 01:04
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9peb5vbgr8KM7Ojem8Dec 06 01:05
schestowitz"patches are already out"Dec 06 01:05
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9penxhN1Cc2v3GHLxADec 06 01:05
schestowitz"@schestowitz Excuse me for being a cynic, but I suggest you wait at least until the primaries before saying anything like this... or else these articles would age like milk."Dec 06 01:05
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pewgx8oDGFwd1iqp6Dec 06 01:06
schestowitz" Of course..."Dec 06 01:06
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schestowitz>> What sort of updates would you like? Title? I typically just look forDec 06 03:33
schestowitz>> the 'nearest' image in the target page; for sites with almost no imagesDec 06 03:33
schestowitz>> it's often the author's.Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz>>Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> For the titles and headings, here are some ideas:Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126057Dec 06 03:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Governance/Volunteer's Rights: Codes of Conduct and Hypocrisy | Tux MachinesDec 06 03:33
schestowitz> Currently: "Daniel Pocock: Codes of Conduct and Hypocrisy"Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> could become one of these:Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> "Debian Governance: Codes of Conduct and Hypocrisy"Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> "Volunteer's Rights: Codes of Conduct and Hypocrisy"Dec 06 03:33
schestowitzTitle changed.Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> Notice how it shifts the article from egos to issues?Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> If people see my name over and over again, some people think it is aDec 06 03:33
schestowitz> personal issue or vendetta, then they miss the real issues.Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> For the pictures: I'll try and add some extra pictures to the articlesDec 06 03:33
schestowitz> and then you could use those in future.Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz>> I only take planes at most once in 2 years (ecological reasons), so amDec 06 03:33
schestowitz>> not attending events to be frank. Unless they're local.Dec 06 03:33
schestowitz> That's understandable.  Let me see when I can come by Manchester again.Dec 06 03:33
schestowitzMy wife also likes your blog and might want to meet.Dec 06 03:33
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schestowitz> Why do you consider Nebula “openwashing”? It was created by a small teamDec 06 03:48
schestowitz> of engineers inside of a company, and we engineers expended a lot ofDec 06 03:48
schestowitz> effort to ensure it was released as open source, because it is a useful,Dec 06 03:48
schestowitz> simple, reliable, performant tool.Dec 06 03:48
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:48
schestowitz> It is MIT licensed and there is absolutely nothing about it thatDec 06 03:48
schestowitz> requires interaction with the company where it was created.Dec 06 03:48
schestowitzCan you show me the context/link in which it was presented as openwashing?Dec 06 03:48
schestowitz> ifso, established in 2004, has had a related orgs page since before techrights or free media alliance did:Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> http://www.ifso.ie/related-orgs.htmlDec 06 03:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ifso.ie | Related Organisations - Irish Free Software Organisation (IFSO)Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> note that ffii is on there. although they do use macs, right? i mean that does suggest something.Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> things im looking into: Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> UK Campaign for Digital Rights (UKCDR) <http://www.ifso.ie/related-orgs.html#ukcdr> Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> http://www.ifso.ie/related-orgs.html#ilugDec 06 03:57
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> http://www.ifso.ie/related-orgs.html#affsDec 06 03:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ifso.ie | Related Organisations - Irish Free Software Organisation (IFSO)Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> when trying to find organisations that exist to promote free software, its going to be extremely difficult to deny that an org called "association for free software" is not one of those, unless its a COMPLETELY orwellian name for an organisation very devoutly dedicated to destroying free software outright.Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ifso.ie | Related Organisations - Irish Free Software Organisation (IFSO)Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> for example, sfc IS an organisation that exists to promote free software, even if it has done great harm. this is a list, not a rating system. it tries to be as simple and matter-of-fact and fact-based as possible, in determining inclusion. thats why fsfe and sfc are there-- their present status is barely relevant. to this, i mean.Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> Dec 06 03:57
schestowitzYes, it is important to check this, irrespective of who recommended inclusion.Dec 06 03:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ifso.ie | Related Organisations - Irish Free Software Organisation (IFSO)Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz>> I let him know your thoughts. Him = Daniel.Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> i just realised the links are from him. thats very gratifying.Dec 06 03:57
schestowitzWe've corresponded lately and might meet in person.Dec 06 03:57
schestowitz> Windows is on its last leg. Expect Microsoft to ship a Linux distro of their own within a few years. Their big burden is creating a migration path to their legacy services/server tooling for Linux.Dec 06 03:58
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schestowitz> Lots of M$ spam.  Some examples below.Dec 06 07:15
schestowitzAmong "LINUX" news there has not been much Microsoft creep lately.Dec 06 07:15
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1202652840486985728Dec 06 07:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz As they say in Yorkshire... 'OW MUCH' ??Dec 06 07:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1202654318148501505Dec 06 07:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz @Seegras I was thinking about you when I tweeted this thread last night about patents on the Apple Pen… https://t.co/TxiVAtH8OUDec 06 07:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz @Seegras I was thinking about you when I tweeted this thread last night about patents on the Apple Pen… https://t.co/TxiVAtH8OUDec 06 07:59
schestowitz'"I was thinking about you when I tweeted this thread last night about patents on the Apple Pencil. I think Microsoft isn’t as concerned about GNU/Linux inside #Chromebooks because they see Google as a company with a business model that’s not too subversive."Dec 06 07:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1202654890763309056Dec 06 07:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz @Seegras 10 years ago, Apple and Microsoft were aligned in wanting to punish free (or patented, but ro… https://t.co/E5O8funlsUDec 06 07:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz @Seegras 10 years ago, Apple and Microsoft were aligned in wanting to punish free (or patented, but ro… https://t.co/E5O8funlsUDec 06 07:59
schestowitz"Dec 06 07:59
schestowitzReplying to Dec 06 07:59
schestowitz@jhambyDec 06 07:59
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schestowitz@schestowitzDec 06 07:59
schestowitz and Dec 06 07:59
schestowitz@SeegrasDec 06 07:59
schestowitz10 years ago, Apple and Microsoft were aligned in wanting to punish free (or patented, but royalty-free) codecs like Vorbis, Opus, and Google’s VP8 & VP9. Today, only Apple still refuses to support free codecs in their browser.Dec 06 07:59
schestowitzI think WSL is primarily to compete with macOS.Dec 06 07:59
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Ad_Inifinitum/status/1202655730836398081Dec 06 07:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Ad_Inifinitum: @jhamby @schestowitz Yeah. It does most of what I need it to now. There's still a few annoying kinks, but it mostly works fine.Dec 06 07:59
schestowitz"Yeah. It does most of what I need it to now. There's still a few annoying kinks, but it mostly works fine."Dec 06 07:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1202655769847447552Dec 06 08:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz @Seegras For you, WSL is trivial, unneeded, and therefore unimportant. I don’t have any practical use… https://t.co/wSpvTzmyJrDec 06 08:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz @Seegras For you, WSL is trivial, unneeded, and therefore unimportant. I don’t have any practical use… https://t.co/wSpvTzmyJrDec 06 08:00
schestowitz"Dec 06 08:00
schestowitzFor you, WSL is trivial, unneeded, and therefore unimportant. I don’t have any practical use for it myself, but am playing with it for general knowledge.Dec 06 08:00
schestowitzI think from a marketing perspective, Google Chromebooks compete with iPads, while Windows 10 competes with macOS laptops.Dec 06 08:00
schestowitz"Dec 06 08:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1202656629461680128Dec 06 08:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz @Seegras One depressing note is that while Chromebooks succeeded at getting #Linux into the hands of l… https://t.co/2LUAJac5QIDec 06 08:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz @Seegras One depressing note is that while Chromebooks succeeded at getting #Linux into the hands of l… https://t.co/2LUAJac5QIDec 06 08:00
schestowitz"One depressing note is that while Chromebooks succeeded at getting #Linux into the hands of large numbers of people, it was only by wrapping it in a slick, cloud-centric Google shell that customers and big box stores could accept and respect. CrOS & Android help Linux acceptance."Dec 06 08:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1202656967778373632Dec 06 08:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz @Seegras So the success of Chromebooks is better than a Windows monoculture, but it’s not totally free… https://t.co/yB9oVKiWbjDec 06 08:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz @Seegras So the success of Chromebooks is better than a Windows monoculture, but it’s not totally free… https://t.co/yB9oVKiWbjDec 06 08:00
schestowitz"So the success of Chromebooks is better than a Windows monoculture, but it’s not totally free like the “netbooks” of 10 years ago would have been. But everything is a compromise, including life."Dec 06 08:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MarkKen20510303/status/1202676394444148743Dec 06 08:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MarkKen20510303: Hmm finally something is like to give to a Tory. A smart enema. https://t.co/p9TGljUprXDec 06 08:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Are there "Smart" enemas and "Smart" vomits already? Is there anything outside and inside that… https://t.co/UtfjRSYouGDec 06 08:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_________it/status/1202749567558508544Dec 06 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@_________it: @schestowitz @wikileaks Prosecute the bait?Dec 06 08:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/unixterminal/status/1202766264617308161Dec 06 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@unixterminal: @schestowitz https://t.co/IzhMyTA40GDec 06 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@unixterminal: @schestowitz https://t.co/IzhMyTA40GDec 06 08:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmarhee/status/1202767300031594499Dec 06 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jmarhee: @unixterminal @schestowitz lol https://t.co/JD9et17isbDec 06 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jmarhee: @unixterminal @schestowitz lol https://t.co/JD9et17isbDec 06 08:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/StarchyArchie/status/1202795346193199104Dec 06 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@StarchyArchie: @Schestowitz https://t.co/RNGjij48N2Dec 06 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@satish_babu: A newly-discovered vulnerability on the #Linux kernel that permits hijacking of VPNs may impact a wide range of pla… https://t.co/8Fztn6ns0ADec 06 08:02
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131354Dec 06 08:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | VPN Vulnerability (CVE-2019-14899) | Tux MachinesDec 06 08:03
schestowitz>> Rianne and I do 4 extra shifts (paid) in 5 days, hence not much time forDec 06 08:34
schestowitz>> articlesDec 06 08:34
schestowitz> Paid overtime, 1.5x or 2x?Dec 06 08:34
schestowitzExtra shifts, partly by choice. Same pay as usual.Dec 06 08:34
schestowitz>> The charset issue seems to be all gone now for 2-3 days, which is very good.Dec 06 08:34
schestowitz> It's only hidden, not gone. :/  I've been looking into it on the side aDec 06 08:34
schestowitz> little.Dec 06 08:34
schestowitzIf no manual work is required, then good.Dec 06 08:34
schestowitz>> I'll start posting 9am when I'm done at work. One more shift tomorrow...Dec 06 08:34
schestowitz>>Dec 06 08:34
schestowitz> Ok.Dec 06 08:34
schestowitzI got some thinks lined up, but very tight schedule (work, gym) until Saturday 9am. Family comes over Monday night.Dec 06 08:34
schestowitz>> Among "LINUX" news there has not been much Microsoft creep lately.Dec 06 08:34
schestowitz> M$ has been prolific in googlebombing the news feeds.Dec 06 08:34
schestowitz> Dec 06 08:34
schestowitz> Here are a few more links, but unrelated:Dec 06 08:34
schestowitz> Dec 06 08:35
schestowitz> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/05/conman-sets-fake-russia-border-finland-trick-migrants/Dec 06 08:35
schestowitz> Dec 06 08:35
schestowitz> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-finland-border-eu-immigration-arrest-europe-fraud-charge-a9234521.htmlDec 06 08:35
schestowitz> Dec 06 08:35
schestowitz> https://abcnews.go.com/International/russia-detains-conman-built-fake-border-finland-trick/story?id=67526621Dec 06 08:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.telegraph.co.uk | Conman sets up fake Russia border with Finland to trick migrantsDec 06 08:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.independent.co.uk | Man builds fake EU border and charges desperate people thousands to cross | The IndependentDec 06 08:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-abcnews.go.com | Russia detains conman who built fake border with Finland to trick migrants - ABC NewsDec 06 08:35
schestowitzI know it's 'wrong', but I actually find this hilarious.Dec 06 08:36
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1203059011110739969Dec 06 21:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: Totally unnecessary. Vs how many deaths from adverse reactions? https://t.co/ZVy54hfZvbDec 06 21:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #bbc #measles #health ☞ Measles deaths 'staggering and tragic' https://t.co/ZZJxTZe9VYDec 06 21:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/j082298/status/1203062467116617729Dec 06 21:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: Thought you might be interested , starting @ 2.16 re: Palantir and Theil. @schestowitz https://t.co/RhOp8jmz3XDec 06 21:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com | Trump's Billionaire 'Shadow President' Thiel Exposed: Palantir & The Beast System Is Being Built - YouTubeDec 06 21:37
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