IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, December 06, 2022

schestowitz-TR

was TM gemini restated or something?

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10 mins ago it stopped responding

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false alarm

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my bad

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what timed out was the cron job that helps me track local weather

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sorry for the false alarm

techrightssec2

Not that I know of.

techrightssec2

Checking.

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The daemon has been running for over a day:

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ps -o user,pid,etime,args | grep 2821 | grep gemini

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gemini 2821 1d06 /usr/bin/gmnisrv -C /etc/gmnisrv.ini

techrightssec2

No problem

Dec 06 08:26

schestowitz-TR

i think my replies therein were polite enough and hard to take out of context

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btw, mumble is awesome, we use it heavily

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many client downloads too

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objective: instead of x companies (prism, russia, china) having datacentres for it

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people start hosting p2p and e2ee comms from their homes

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isps might respond by not giving world-facing ip addresses to homes

*Techrights-sec is now known as ts2

Dec 06 08:31

techrightssec2

Yes, like what happened with Usenet not so long ago.

Dec 06 08:31

schestowitz-TR

something to watch out for

Dec 06 08:32

schestowitz-TR

if I set up murmur again, I will record a video or something to show how it is done

Dec 06 08:32

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so more people self-host mumble and foster solidarity for the practice

Dec 06 08:32

techrightssec2

Probably no need to set it up again but it would be important to back up

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the certificates used by the daemon.

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It's darn easy to self-host Mumble and when combined with even a dynamic DNS

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entry and port forwarding from the router, anyone can do it.

schestowitz-TR

for now

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with usenet you assumed all major isps would offer access

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when they did not, people stopped coming

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and groups perished

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never mind google's rogue role

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with mumble, apple and gulag might say mumble promotes bad language

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or does not comply with cocism like censorship

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and thus the "apps" for mumble must be removed

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like they did "rioit" before it was renamed "element"

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just to waste their time

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as if the name was the problem

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while they promote in the front page "apps" of companies that commit actaual war crimes

techrightssec2

Yes, for now. TPM and Restricted Boot and related problems are part of the

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lockdown move to eliminate general-purpose computing and replace it with

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corporately controlled appliances a la "smart" phones

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Yep

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Time-wasting is a core function and goal of such "apps"

schestowitz-TR

1) i meant asking for the apps to be merely renamed -= timeasting

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2) in india, lots of whats app censorship - they ALREADY cemsor messaging apps, not just social control media

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3) iirc, both gulag and rotten apple censored parler

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but not fb and twitter

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so you can envision what they can say about mumla or similar mumble things

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even just to make it more "niche"

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skype = wiretapping and following links in 'private' messages

techrightssec2

It is important to remember that one of the very first things m$ did when

Dec 06 08:43

techrightssec2

acquiring skype was to centralize it.

Dec 06 08:44

schestowitz-TR

AND added to NSA PRISM!

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it's cheaper NOT to centralise it

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so I guess the business model is,

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suck up to DoD

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"we'll thank you later" :)

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skype used to be european

techrightssec2

M$ Outlook also follows links in messages, if the messages don't get lost

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first.

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Yes, and during that time it was not just distributed but also usable and with

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passable sound quality, unlike now post-purchase.

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By the way, SIP also seems to have reduced sound quality these days or at

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least it seems that way in the remaining SIP clients.

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It may be that they choose garbage codecs, but some have suggested that the

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ISPs (which are often phone companies or otherwise connected to phone companies)

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choose to drop a lot of the UDP packets.

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s/drop/drop or delay/

schestowitz-TR

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yes, ipfs is a bit like that

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it seems safe to keep running

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we don't fetch or repost anything, so we cannot possible host anything illegal

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unless it is our own

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*possibly host

techrightssec2

ack

Dec 06 09:02

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old: Corrupt Mr. breton promoting ILLEGAL system, boosted by BILL GATES-bribed 'media' https://www.euractiv.com/section/digital/news/breton-renews-calls-for-a-single-european-patent-system/

Dec 06 09:30

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Breton renews calls for a single European patent system – EURACTIV.com

Dec 06 09:30

techrightssec2

yes

Dec 06 09:34

techrightssec2

ack

Dec 06 09:54

techrightssec2

Will look at wget and the gallery later today to test a few things

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3762836-big-tech-and-its-critics-lash-out-at-journalism-measure/

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^ topic ?

https://advocacy.consumerreports.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/September-2_Letter-to-Senate_JCPA.pdf

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehill.com | Big tech and its critics lash out at journalism measure | The Hill

schestowitz-TR

US 'democracy': the corporate dictotors drop stuff into NDAA

Dec 06 10:21

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bypassing an actual, real vote on proposals

Dec 06 10:21

schestowitz-TR

techdirt did a good bit on this yesterday as well

Dec 06 10:21

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"Journalism Competition and Preservation Act (JCPA)" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/05/is-it-possible-to-get-fair-coverage-of-the-link-tax-bill-when-the-news-orgs-covering-it-are-the-main-beneficiaries/ | Source: Techdirt

Dec 06 10:23

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Is It Possible To Get Fair Coverage Of The Link Tax Bill When The News Orgs Covering It Are The Main Beneficiaries? | Techdirt

Dec 06 10:23

schestowitz-TR

rianne watches the video about lowering power usage a second time

Dec 06 10:26

techrightssec2

Yes, Techdirt has asked the right questions there.

Dec 06 10:39

schestowitz-TR

admfubar put that in the irc channel yesterday, before that came into kate editor

Dec 06 10:39

techrightssec2

Piggybacking "riders" into must-pass legislation is toxic and anti-American

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Notice that it's not just that most of the coverage is afflicted by severe

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conflicts of interest, but that almost the only sites covering it at all are

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overseas: India, UK, Australia, etc

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The US-based business don't want the matter examined in any way, shape, or form.

schestowitz-TR

"in and our of hospital"

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relatives after taking the shots last year

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accoding to family

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just got new ONS data

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eta 5 mins

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Dec 06 11:45

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Dec 06 11:50

schestowitz-TR

UK Still Experiences About 1,500 More Deaths Per Week (or 78,000 Per Year) Than Before COVID-19 Average https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/06/deaths-per-week-47/

Dec 06 11:50

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK Still Experiences About 1,500 More Deaths Per Week (or 78,000 Per Year) Than Before COVID-19 Average

Dec 06 11:50

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In Week 47 (ONS Released the Full Provisional Figures Moments Ago), Adults Aged 15-44 Saw 27% Rise in Deaths (2022 Compared to 2019) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/06/ons-week-47/

Dec 06 12:03

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » In Week 47 (ONS Released the Full Provisional Figures Moments Ago), Adults Aged 15-44 Saw 27% Rise in Deaths (2022 Compared to 2019)

Dec 06 12:03

schestowitz-TR

rather consistent across weeks

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and 2019 was NOT a good year

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compared to 2015-18

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the numbers would be even worse if compared to pre covid averages

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john is singing and rhyming gulag guidelines to avoid channel bans

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but he semi-joking about how "this platform" requires him to say this and that

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I guess it might be similar with topics like crypto [sic], Linux, Ukraine..

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google is sort of bossing from the shadows

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for sponsors and special interests

techrightssec2

ack

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ack

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yes, I suspect that one also has to sing the praises of m$ or at least windoze

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in order to keep a youtube channel unbanned

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or at least keep it monetized

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yes of course

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they *really* hate Kodi, too

schestowitz-TR

they can ban you for anything to justify the outcome pre-chosen

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like, you covered this software several years ago

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this application COULD be used for something bad

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Rumour: Very Large Microsoft Layoffs (Another Round) Next Month, Lists Already Being Prepared | Techrights

schestowitz-TR

it is a good thing I psnt time (days) figuring outr where to post videos

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wrong platform -> different message (self-ensorship)

techrightssec2

ack

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Self-censorship is what they aim for. It saves them work. Orwell referred to

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it as "newspeak" but the kids these days, not having read anything, coined

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the term "algospeak" but which amounts to the exact same thing.

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Many of the "big tech" firms have been going through multiple rounds of layoffs

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all year. Maybe an aggregation could be written up.

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at the year end

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^ topic ?

schestowitz-TR

yeah, that might match up ok with current series

Dec 06 13:34

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manchin ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/12/05/groups-warn-pelosi-schumer-against-allowing-manchin-dirty-deal-pentagon-spending | Source: Common Dreams

Dec 06 14:12

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Groups Warn Pelosi, Schumer Against Allowing Manchin 'Dirty Deal' in Pentagon Spending Bill

Dec 06 14:12

schestowitz-TR

sorry if I sound a tad cynical

Dec 06 14:22

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it's a good era to be into cynicism

Dec 06 14:22

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yale ☛ https://truthout.org/video/students-sue-yale-for-pressuring-those-with-mental-health-needs-to-withdraw/ | Source: TruthOut

Dec 06 14:24

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Students Sue Yale for Pressuring Those With Mental Health Needs to Withdraw - Truthout

Dec 06 14:24

schestowitz-TR

meanwhile it seems like you need to pretend or escalate to management or...

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just to get a GP appointment here

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otherwise they're like, can you not do this online?

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are you dying yet?

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"Smart" cars = cars for people who aren't smart enough to figure out where this is all going ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/05/law-enforcement-is-extracting-tons-of-data-from-vehicle-infotainment-systems/ | Source: Techdirt

Dec 06 14:26

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Law Enforcement Is Extracting Tons Of Data From Vehicle Infotainment Systems | Techdirt

Dec 06 14:26

schestowitz-TR

sam varghese sort of vanished again after a couple of months doing many articles

Dec 06 15:15

techrightssec2

Manchin is out of line and making inappropriate maneuvers to obstruct the

Dec 06 15:44

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party (and nation) he ostensibly belongs to.

Dec 06 15:44

schestowitz-TR

working against the common good and for the rich super-minority is how some people make money

Dec 06 15:44

techrightssec2

Sam was about the last good writer they had there at ITWire

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Manchin owes his personal and political wealth entirely to the fossil fuel

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industry; There are enough conflicts of interest to keep him out of office

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in a less corrupt administration.

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Dec 06 15:53

schestowitz-TR

wb, starstreak

Dec 06 15:53

starstreak

schestowitz-TR, hey hey hey

Dec 06 15:55

starstreak

attack surface btw

Dec 06 15:55

starstreak

i've been playing a lot of world of warcraft lately

Dec 06 15:56

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