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schestowitz-TR2 | ota | Mar 07 05:57 |
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schestowitz-TR2 | juist got some very interesting tips o npm and shithub | Mar 07 05:57 |
schestowitz-TR2 | toook a longe sleep today | Mar 07 05:57 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Mar 07 06:17 |
Techrights-sec | "merits a comedy routine/skit." could be expanded upon | Mar 07 06:17 |
schestowitz-TR2 | OK, 1.5 HOURSD LEFT FOR THE UPLOAD | Mar 07 06:18 |
schestowitz-TR2 | caps by accident | Mar 07 06:18 |
Techrights-sec | "merits a comedy routine/skit." could be expanded upon | Mar 07 06:37 |
Techrights-sec | np | Mar 07 06:37 |
schestowitz-TR2 | draft | Mar 07 06:37 |
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schestowitz-TR2 | I have made some changes to the front page of the capsule | Mar 07 08:10 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I think it improves clarity | Mar 07 08:10 |
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Techrights-sec | ack | Mar 07 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | ### Graphical | Mar 07 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | can be removed or moved to the end | Mar 07 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | Many of the other headings seem rather redundant with the link content. | Mar 07 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | There should be more than a single link under any given heading. | Mar 07 08:53 |
schestowitz-TR2 | good thought. I was hoping to expand that next, it's more like skeleton | Mar 07 08:54 |
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Techrights-sec | It may be better to just cull the headings where possible. Less is more. | Mar 07 09:24 |
schestowitz-TR2 | maybe a hopping point towards child pages, a new level some times later. I will shuffle around some more and show you... | Mar 07 09:25 |
schestowitz-TR2 | needs some lateral thinking and imposter thinkingf (me as new to the capsule) | Mar 07 09:33 |
Techrights-sec | A | Mar 07 09:43 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Mar 07 09:43 |
Techrights-sec | https://www.nngroup.com/topic/writing-web/ | Mar 07 09:43 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nngroup.com | Writing for the Web Articles, Videos, Reports, Training Courses, and Online Seminars by NN/g | Mar 07 09:43 | |
schestowitz-TR2 | another iteration, see capsule's front page | Mar 07 09:44 |
schestowitz-TR2 | refactoring a bit, at one point we can shorten the page by branching out to subpages | Mar 07 09:44 |
schestowitz-TR2 | If you have not had a go yet at rss aggregation,using some existing code, | Mar 07 10:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | should I start something from scratch like a dirty prototype/hack? | Mar 07 10:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | what I have in mind is a page, sometwhere in TR, which once in x hours retreieves dozens of xml files | Mar 07 10:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | than turns them into gemtext list of links | Mar 07 10:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I reckon this can be done with a few lines of bash | Mar 07 10:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and the list of sites will be the llonger bit | Mar 07 10:07 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Mar 07 10:37 |
Techrights-sec | wget ... | xmlstarlet | sed > gemtext.gmi | Mar 07 10:37 |
schestowitz-TR2 | ok, I have a list of 571 feeds | Mar 07 11:10 |
schestowitz-TR2 | wget does not do gemini protocol | Mar 07 11:10 |
schestowitz-TR2 | afaik, curl can do gopher | Mar 07 11:10 |
schestowitz-TR2 | i will look for some geminin downloaded | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | i see nodejs/npm implmentation | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | that is out of thre qeustion | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | gemini-fetch | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | gmni is in sr.ht and had 1.0 relese 29 days ago | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | this is from drew devault | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | i need bearssl to compile it | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | can you find an x86 binary? | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | i can run this off my laptop | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | compiling bearssl | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | does not look small to me | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | as they advertise | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | hmmm libbearssl is considered beta | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | no wonder... | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I tried many tricks to force is to complile | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | including compile dependencies one by one | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and mess around | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I will try openssl | Mar 07 11:11 |
Techrights-sec | there was a trick with openssl to fetch gemini | Mar 07 11:11 |
Techrights-sec | $ echo "gemini://gemini.techrights.org/feed.xml\r\n" | openssl s_client -connect gemini.techrights.org:1965 | Mar 07 11:11 |
Techrights-sec | yes somewhat early in its development | Mar 07 11:11 |
schestowitz | (echo "gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/"; sleep 1) | openssl s_client -connect gemini.circumlunar.space:1965 | Mar 07 11:18 |
Techrights-sec | yes somewhat early in its development | Mar 07 11:18 |
Techrights-sec | there is a step missing in the above shell line | Mar 07 11:18 |
Techrights-sec | looking (not so familiar with openssl) | Mar 07 11:18 |
schestowitz-TR2 | with the command you have just given, is there a step that would also retrieve from the url? | Mar 07 11:18 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it shosws me only cert status | Mar 07 11:18 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I have pushed the list of feeds to git | Mar 07 11:18 |
schestowitz-TR2 | also installed xmlstarlet on the pi | Mar 07 11:18 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I found the way3~ | Mar 07 11:18 |
Techrights-sec | That would work maybe with tls1.2 and not TLS 1.3 | Mar 07 11:19 |
Techrights-sec | There is one option missing, I have forgotten which. | Mar 07 11:19 |
Techrights-sec | It is a real pain that the Gemini mailing list is still down. | Mar 07 11:38 |
Techrights-sec | $ echo -ne "gemini://gemini.techrights.org/feed.xml\r\n\r\n" | openssl s_client -servername gemini.techrights.org -quiet | Mar 07 11:49 |
Techrights-sec | -ign_eof -connect gemini.techrights.org:1965 | Mar 07 11:49 |
Techrights-sec | XML /always/ requires a proper parser. sed and awk won't do the job correctly | Mar 07 12:10 |
Techrights-sec | s/won't/can't/ | Mar 07 12:10 |
schestowitz | $ cat test-xml | grep -e title -e link | tac | sed "s/ <link href='/=\> /" | cut --d="'" -f1-1 | sed "s/ <title>//" | sed "s/<\/title>//" | sed -e :a -e N -e '$!ba' -e 's/gmi\n/gmi /g' | grep "=>" > delme.txt | Mar 07 12:13 |
schestowitz | roy@vonick:~/Desktop/Text_Workspace/images$ cat delme.txt | Mar 07 12:13 |
schestowitz | => gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/poems/2020-09-02-lens.gmi lens | Mar 07 12:13 |
schestowitz | => gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/poems/2020-09-03-lamb.gmi Lamb | Mar 07 12:13 |
schestowitz | => gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/poems/2020-09-08-alternatives.gmi Alternatives | Mar 07 12:13 |
schestowitz | => gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/poems/2020-09-15-full_for_once.gmi Full For Once | Mar 07 12:13 |
schestowitz | => gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/poems/2020-09-15-comuterhood.gmi Commuterhood | Mar 07 12:13 |
schestowitz | => gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/poems/2020-09-15-welcome.gmi Welcome | Mar 07 12:13 |
schestowitz | => gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/poems/2020-09-15-fall_sickness.gmi Fall Sickness | Mar 07 12:13 |
schestowitz | => gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/poems/2020-11-26-once_you_asked_me.gmi once you asked me | Mar 07 12:13 |
schestowitz | => gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/poems/2021-04-04-postcuspward.gmi Postcuspward | Mar 07 12:14 |
schestowitz | => gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/poems/2021-04-05-before_the_bloom.gmi Before the bloom | Mar 07 12:14 |
schestowitz | echo -ne "gemini://gemini.techrights.org/feed.xml\r\n\r\n" | openssl s_client -servername gemini.techrights.org -quiet -ign_eof -connect gemini.techrights.org:1965 | grep -e title -e link | tac | sed "s/<link>/=> /" | cut --d="'" -f1-1 | sed -e "s/<title>//" -e "s/<\/title>//" -e "s/<\/link>//" | sed -e :a -e N -e '$!ba' -e 's/gmi\n/gmi /g' | grep "=>" > delme.txt | Mar 07 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | (echo "gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/"; sleep 1) | openssl s_client -connect gemini.circumlunar.space:1965 | Mar 07 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I think I can do this wotjout advanced xml tools | Mar 07 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I have read some documentation | Mar 07 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | seems liike the task is simple enough to do without it | Mar 07 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | i am working on something | Mar 07 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | one issue will be inconsistent specs for files across capsules | Mar 07 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but we can start with a smaller set | Mar 07 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | a rptotype tested with two feeds | Mar 07 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | yes, it's just some prototy | Mar 07 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I got it working with 2 feeda already | Mar 07 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the dirty part is the xml cruncher | Mar 07 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | leaving just link and title | Mar 07 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | than reversing the outputs order | Mar 07 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | tabgs/spaces in the first examples made it tricker, but I have stuff the culls thesed | Mar 07 12:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I use that for git commit | Mar 07 12:23 |
Techrights-sec | cat feed.xml | sed -e '1d' | xmlstarlet sel -T -t -m '//item' -o '=> ' -v './link' -o " " -v './title' -n | Mar 07 12:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | cat feed.xml | sed -e '1{/^[0-9][0-9]/d}' | xmlstarlet sel -T -t -m '//item' -v './link' -o "\t" -v './title' -n | Mar 07 12:23 |
Techrights-sec | cat feed.xml | sed -e '1{/^[0-9][0-9]/d}' | xmlstarlet sel -T -t -m '//item' -v './link' -o "\t" -v './title' -n | Mar 07 12:23 |
Techrights-sec | $ echo -ne "gemini://gemini.techrights.org/feed.xml\r\n\r\n" | openssl s_client -servername gemini.techrights.org -quiet | Mar 07 12:36 |
Techrights-sec | -ign_eof -connect gemini.techrights.org:1965 | sed -e '1{/^[0-9][0-9]/d}' | xmlstarlet sel -E utf-8 -T -t -m '//item' - | Mar 07 12:36 |
Techrights-sec | o '=> ' -v './link' -o " " -v './title' -n | Mar 07 12:36 |
Techrights-sec | just a reminder that the script which generates the feed.xml file is not yet | Mar 07 12:36 |
Techrights-sec | ready for production | Mar 07 12:36 |
schestowitz-TR2 | nice | Mar 07 12:52 |
schestowitz-TR2 | i am trying that out | Mar 07 12:52 |
schestowitz-TR2 | utf-8 still diffificult | Mar 07 12:52 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the other feed I tested with is structured differently | Mar 07 12:52 |
schestowitz-TR2 | lagrange seems unable to parse the techrights rss | Mar 07 12:53 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but I assumed it was still work in progress | Mar 07 12:53 |
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schestowitz | I've made a placeholder in gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/ and pushed to git | Mar 07 13:01 |
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schestowitz-TR2 | i think it would help in the outgoigg link sense | Mar 07 13:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | like old skool webrings | Mar 07 13:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | also, it is a place for us to pick daily links from | Mar 07 13:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | if other people find this useful, great | Mar 07 13:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but it's rather cheap to just fetch and filter a file once per day, then assess the contents | Mar 07 13:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | in lagrange it already shows me more or less what I visited | Mar 07 13:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and I can 'shop' based on titles | Mar 07 13:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | afaik, the existing aggregators for gemini are very very limited | Mar 07 13:06 |
Techrights-sec | it's a proof of concept prototype | Mar 07 13:07 |
Techrights-sec | there is a bit more to learn in regards to RSS or Atonm | Mar 07 13:07 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Mar 07 13:07 |
Techrights-sec | syncing local cache of gemtext for work with the feed generator... | Mar 07 13:07 |
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Techrights-sec | ack | Mar 07 19:01 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Mar 07 19:01 |
Techrights-sec | mock up : gemini://gemini.techrights.org/test.gmi | Mar 07 19:01 |
Techrights-sec | Mar 07 19:26 | |
Techrights-sec | yes, they do take up lots of space in amfora | Mar 07 19:26 |
Techrights-sec | yes, a second level for some of the various subtopics | Mar 07 19:26 |
Techrights-sec | I think so. Can you show it on the mockup? | Mar 07 19:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I like some things about it, I noticed that in amfora the headings can take up a lot of space | Mar 07 19:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | how about... | Mar 07 19:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | split the front page into two at top level | Mar 07 19:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so there is a concise front page | Mar 07 19:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and then that expands to something else | Mar 07 19:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it would be super-easy to implement if that second one is at the same directory level | Mar 07 19:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | are you ok with me breaking things into two? | Mar 07 19:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and one being static? | Mar 07 19:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | main one should focus on latest articles | Mar 07 19:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I will create test backup and edit tesk | Mar 07 19:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | lol see index.gmi.old | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | very old | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | sorry, was on phone, dad was in hospital | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it's ok now | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I am going to split main page into two | Mar 07 20:26 |
Techrights-sec | :( | Mar 07 20:26 |
Techrights-sec | I hope he is ok | Mar 07 20:26 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | needs patient consideration | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | OK< I think I know what dom do here | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | test.gmi becomes archives.gmi | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | now I can make the front page shorter, move arycles nearer to the top | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the archives will be static18~ | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I will remove the "lATEST ARrcvles" section from these | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the rest does not need updating anyway | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I have made two pushes | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | one for index | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | one for archives | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so you can assess thgec changes | Mar 07 20:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I am regenerating the index at the moment to check it works as seen in nano | Mar 07 20:26 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Mar 07 20:42 |
Techrights-sec | the gemini home page seems blank at the moment | Mar 07 20:42 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | just made another push | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | a line golt cut while copypasting | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I like the split of the front page | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it has long been getting tooooo ong | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it can be further split up into statiuc bits over time | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | based on some rough taxonomy of the site | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | bbiab coffee | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | yes, I am regenrating it | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | there was a syntax error, see "git pull && git show" | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I think I will create another static page next | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | will think in mkitchen :-) | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | as long as we keep them in sam meirectory level everything stays simple and not broken | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the archives page (formerly test) has a brokewn link to bullein | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | as we do not have an index page there, we can add one? | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | at ~gemini/gemini/bulletin | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I've just found a capsule that does UK qwweather and forecasts for all locations | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | maybe a subject for video later | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | capsule's front page restored | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | gn | Mar 07 20:42 |
schestowitz | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/bulletins/2022/ gemini://gemini.techrights.org/bulletins/2021/ gemini://gemini.techrights.org/bulletins/2020/ and gemini://gemini.techrights.org/bulletins/ created | Mar 07 20:54 |
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schestowitz | " | Mar 07 23:19 |
schestowitz | who cares if it’s slow nasty, nearly unavailable | Mar 07 23:19 |
schestowitz | We do. Plus, we’re the ones who would have to maintain and update that. Not happening. | Mar 07 23:19 |
schestowitz | The subdomain idea wasn’t at all about big pods. What about the "offer’ to redirect subdomains for kinda theme related pod’s with limited users. | Mar 07 23:19 |
schestowitz | Hosting domain names for contents we can’t control is a legal nightmare. Also, no, that’d still be a single point of failure, even if would just be for some redirects. :) | Mar 07 23:19 |
schestowitz | " | Mar 07 23:19 |
schestowitz | https://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/8258710 | Mar 07 23:19 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-diaspora.psyco.fr | An update on the future of JoinDiaspora.com | Mar 07 23:19 | |
schestowitz | sorry if it's the wrong place to ask this, but any rough ETA for account migration feature released and distributed to pods? I assume that's the equivalent of "importing" one's data. As a side note, the @schestowitz account still cannot export its data, should that be treported by email? | Mar 07 23:20 |
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