●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, April 07, 2022 ●● ● Apr 07 [00:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [00:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 07 [02:10] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:22] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6unmuhzzqbv2c.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:30] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:36] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:36] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Apr 07 [03:06] *sbrownst (~sbrownst@joseon/user/sbrownst) has joined #boycottnovell [03:54] *schestowitz_log_ has quit (Connection closed) [03:54] *schestowitz_log_ has quit (connection closed) ● Apr 07 [04:26] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowitz_log@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:27] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowi@joseon-vcq322.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [04:27] *schestowitz_log_ has quit (Changing host) [04:27] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [04:27] *schestowitz_log__ (~schestowitz_log@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 07 [05:03] *sbrownst_ (~sbrownst@joseon-oed.cfh.k1tdrf.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [05:04] *sbrownst has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Apr 07 [06:46] *spazzz has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:46] *spazzz (~spazz@urifce6zxwtdi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 07 [08:11] *sbrownst_ has quit (Connection closed) [08:11] *sbrownst_ (~sbrownst@joseon-oed.cfh.k1tdrf.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [08:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [08:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:56] schestowitz-TR just going through the sheeran links [08:56] schestowitz-TR this reaffirms what I heard a long time ago [08:56] schestowitz-TR about why music sucks so badly therse days [08:56] schestowitz-TR legal reason, economic reasons, two connected aspects [08:56] Techrights-sec it's one of the reasons byt there are many others each one alone would be [08:56] Techrights-sec enough to make it suck badly. [08:59] schestowitz-TR This is exactly the sort of thing techdirt used to cover at least half a dozen times a day before [08:59] schestowitz-TR writing political stuff with obscene words in headlines and "don't tread on facebook et al" [08:59] schestowitz-TR crap while charles koch pays the site [08:59] Techrights-sec selling out is a business model, not a good one but a common one ● Apr 07 [09:00] schestowitz-TR there's a microsoft quote about that in re "analysts" [09:00] schestowitz-TR like redmonk [09:01] Techrights-sec though in some cases there may be coersion involved [09:01] Techrights-sec https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=plata%20o%20plomo [09:01] Techrights-sec yes, "that's their business model" [09:01] Techrights-sec Maybe Mike wasn't that bad on his own but the new people have sold out and [09:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: plata o plomo [09:01] Techrights-sec helped drag him along? [09:04] schestowitz-TR urbandict is so full of trackers [09:04] schestowitz-TR but i learned something new [09:04] schestowitz-TR mmasnick was now dragged down [09:04] schestowitz-TR he spread himself thin [09:05] schestowitz-TR and brought on board people to whom the focus [09:05] schestowitz-TR is stuff like boradbans [09:05] schestowitz-TR police [09:05] schestowitz-TR moody is OK, the rest not so much... [09:05] schestowitz-TR *broadband [09:07] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:07] *asusbox (~rianne@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:08] Techrights-sec Perhaps related to M$ tradition of bribery [09:08] Techrights-sec ack [09:08] Techrights-sec I stopped reading the sit efor the most part when the signal to noise ratio [09:08] Techrights-sec dipped. Moody is usually good, Masnick is often good though except when [09:08] Techrights-sec he diverges fro mspecific tech topics and goes off barking. [09:08] schestowitz-TR yes, you beat me to it [09:08] schestowitz-TR I was about to day, [09:08] schestowitz-TR if you donm't read it, it's no longer likely you miss much of value [09:08] schestowitz-TR not just because of s/n ratio [09:08] schestowitz-TR they also do not have much exclusive stuff [09:08] schestowitz-TR they expand upon some police stories [09:08] schestowitz-TR in the past they'd expese legal threats, PDDs, and brawl with aggressive law [09:08] schestowitz-TR firms [09:16] Techrights-sec [09:16] Techrights-sec I wonder if there is any possiblity that they could even return to that, [09:16] Techrights-sec if they could muster the interest internally. [09:17] schestowitz-TR it's a lot harder than just getting some news link, then writing a bunch of garbage around that. It's also riskier. [09:22] Techrights-sec yes, in several ways and the time from start to finish can be measured in [09:22] Techrights-sec months sometimes [09:55] schestowitz-TR spamnil now filrting with single-digit territories [09:55] schestowitz-TR some new videos 10 views in 10 days [09:55] schestowitz-TR and you know some of these views are spamnil and guest [09:55] schestowitz-TR this is now sustainable [09:55] schestowitz-TR unless something in the head isn't working [09:55] schestowitz-TR or he manged to con "guests" into wasting their time [09:56] schestowitz-TR meanwhile linux.com looks like, oh gosh, take a look [09:56] schestowitz-TR a lot og gulagtube subs became mirage or fake [09:56] schestowitz-TR you see channels where views are like 1000 fewer the number of subs [09:57] Techrights-sec I don't think that the LF intended it to be sustainable, they did fire all [09:57] Techrights-sec the real editorial writers and related staff quite on purpose. ● Apr 07 [10:01] schestowitz-TR inc. eric brown [10:01] schestowitz-TR he gave up this week [10:01] schestowitz-TR at least he was paid to do pieces in linux.com before [10:01] schestowitz-TR and he did a good job at it [10:01] schestowitz-TR Linux.com So Poorly Managed by Linux Foundation That Now Theyre Double-Posting (Same Post Twice, Not Corrected) | Techrights [10:01] schestowitz-TR http://techrights.org/2022/04/07/linux-com-double-post/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/07/linux-com [10:01] schestowitz-TR -double-post/ [10:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux.com So Poorly Managed by Linux Foundation That Now Theyre Double-Posting (Same Post Twice, Not Corrected) | Techrights [10:24] Techrights-sec ack [10:38] *Despatche has quit (connection closed) [10:38] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:57] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@u5hhxpb5ez862.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:59] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@u5hhxpb5ez862.irc) has left #boycottnovell (or just going to ask on #techrights) ● Apr 07 [11:02] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@z6bazdqcr3w4q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 07 [12:20] schestowitz-TR ota got some epo focs [12:20] schestowitz-TR *docs [12:20] schestowitz-TR media or blogs have at least begun mentioning this [12:20] schestowitz-TR which is good news [12:20] schestowitz-TR the bloggers we shamed into it ● Apr 07 [13:50] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: "experiences with rms prioritising his own interests over the free software community in ways that harmed them" [13:51] schestowitz-TR gulag describing himself ^^ ● Apr 07 [14:37] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:39] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@z6bazdqcr3w4q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:39] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● Apr 07 [15:17] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@znahu4npa3evq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:39] *Disconnected (Network is unreachable). [15:49] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [15:49] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [15:49] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021 [15:49] *rianne_ (~rianne@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:49] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:49] *schestowitz (~roy@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:49] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #boycottnovell schestowitz [15:49] *asusbox (~rianne@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:50] *liberty_box (~liberty@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:50] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowitz_log@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:50] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:50] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:50] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:50] *buzzert (~buzzert@zmgw33tt22mkn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:51] *schestowitz_log__ (~schestowitz_log@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:51] *qa2 (~sid145515@frp6gv52kp9fi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:51] *rianne (~rianne@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:53] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #boycottnovell [15:53] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +a #boycottnovell MinceR [15:54] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@znahu4npa3evq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:57] schestowitz-TR Q [15:57] schestowitz-TR draft [15:57] schestowitz-TR the hypervisor seems to be down as of minutes ago [15:57] schestowitz-TR looking into it... [15:57] schestowitz-TR it was a networking issue [15:57] schestowitz-TR recovering now [15:57] schestowitz-TR restorting services [15:57] schestowitz-TR about 20 todo items [15:57] schestowitz-TR will share with you when done [15:57] schestowitz-TR in case I get hospitalised or something [15:57] schestowitz-TR a bit stressful, I'll budget 20 mins to it [15:57] schestowitz-TR also lost 50 mins of upload [15:58] schestowitz-TR it was the network [15:58] Techrights-sec I'll try logging in. [15:58] Techrights-sec HV is available [15:58] Techrights-sec hmm I could log into HV but now the SSH session is frozen [15:58] Techrights-sec now unfrozen [15:58] Techrights-sec intermittent [15:58] Techrights-sec lxc-ls shows all five running [15:58] Techrights-sec hv not responding to SSH any more [15:58] Techrights-sec ack [15:58] Techrights-sec what went on? hv stayed up [15:58] Techrights-sec ok ● Apr 07 [16:02] schestowitz-TR upload restarted [16:02] schestowitz-TR this can take a while [16:02] schestowitz-TR you can see my two drafts [16:02] schestowitz-TR sometimes I wonder what's worse, losing the servers conn or home conn [16:02] schestowitz-TR both involve lots of recovery [16:03] Techrights-sec it can take 20 minutes to get set up again with all the connections and such [16:03] Techrights-sec networking is still wonky; not able to stay connected to TR at the moment [16:04] schestowitz-TR yes, is why I delay some things [16:04] schestowitz-TR I meticulously check irc logs for missinf things [16:12] *Disconnected (). 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