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| Techrights-sec | see /usr/local/bin/tm-extract-posts-sql.pl.new on tm-new | Sep 07 06:34 |
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| Techrights-sec | it is nearly a complete re-write of the script and is hopefully much more | Sep 07 06:34 |
| Techrights-sec | efficient; unfortunately David A Wheeler's sloccount shows that it is only | Sep 07 06:34 |
| Techrights-sec | about 30 lines shorter | Sep 07 06:34 |
| Techrights-sec | Running it with no options will create / update *new* or *updated* gemtext | Sep 07 06:34 |
| Techrights-sec | and xhtml files. Running it multiple times will produce no output until | Sep 07 06:34 |
| Techrights-sec | a record is updated, unless the -f option is used. See the -h option. | Sep 07 06:34 |
| Techrights-sec | No -d option means the date defaults to the current date. | Sep 07 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | OK I assume you made a DB backup and now I can run this new script to make new pages | Sep 07 06:35 |
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| Techrights-sec | I've tested it on this end but it would need testing in actual use. | Sep 07 07:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I ran it twice, expecting it to ask for something | Sep 07 07:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but it just came back doing nothing | Sep 07 07:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | which I suppose is what I should expect? | Sep 07 07:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | (last day for rianne to practice; in mock exams she averages around 92%) | Sep 07 07:42 |
| Techrights-sec | Did it update the XHTML and GemText files? | Sep 07 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | If you add -v it will make more noise. | Sep 07 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | Perhaps it should mention by default how many files were written. | Sep 07 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | When running it twice, the second time there will be no activity since t | Sep 07 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | the files will have already been exported to the file system. | Sep 07 08:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it runs for about 1.5 seconds and says nothing | Sep 07 08:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gets back to terminal | Sep 07 08:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | draft (being a thorn on Microsoft's side again ;-) ) | Sep 07 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | Even with -f and -v? You've run it once so there will be no action take | Sep 07 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec | on subsequent runs without the -f option | Sep 07 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I've only run it very prudentl;y for fear (over the DB) and for geenral assurance nothing is done 'wrong' | Sep 07 08:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | as I don't really understand the underlying system | Sep 07 08:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I can envision that in winter we can use the same in Techrights for more rapid posting | Sep 07 08:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | (the more 'opinionated' stuff) | Sep 07 08:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | my guess was, as the number of records grows (maybe 3k by now) it needs more time for queries to complete, e.g. give me all records for day x and day x-1 | Sep 07 08:16 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | posted the thing about asia | Sep 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | will revisit next month | Sep 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I think asia will soon be orange except tw, jp, and ru | Sep 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | going to annotate with markers the ubuntu screenshots, thank you! | Sep 07 08:27 |
| Techrights-sec | The script also does some better interlinking between posts, most of that | Sep 07 08:39 |
| Techrights-sec | is inside the script itself. So it runs faster and more efficiently. The | Sep 07 08:39 |
| Techrights-sec | other part is with the linking inside the XHTML head. | Sep 07 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | draft (ubuntu) | Sep 07 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | let me know what commands to run as user 'roy | Sep 07 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so as to not put anything at risk | Sep 07 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I will soon do another manual backup and later make a script for it | Sep 07 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | after scripting it, maybe cron job | Sep 07 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | The risk shouls be minimal, since it is intended to replace the old script. | Sep 07 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec | Try | Sep 07 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec | tm-extract-posts-sql.pl -v | Sep 07 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec | or | Sep 07 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec | tm-extract-posts-sql.pl -v -f | Sep 07 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec | tm-extract-posts-sql.pl -v -v | Sep 07 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec | tm-extract-posts-sql.pl -h | Sep 07 08:45 |
| Techrights-sec | with .new at the end? | Sep 07 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | with .new at the end? | Sep 07 08:47 |
| Techrights-sec | not any more. The old one is still there as .old | Sep 07 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I see now, that's a lot faster | Sep 07 08:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and does nothing unless rewrites are needed | Sep 07 08:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I assume "-v -v" is a typo | Sep 07 08:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | did not run that one | Sep 07 08:50 |
| Techrights-sec | No, -v is for debugging and -v, -v -v, and -v -v -v having increasing levels | Sep 07 08:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ok, I've run all 4 | Sep 07 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and it does not complain about anything | Sep 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I assume that any time I now add or modify an existing page it'll use this in the background, via the bahs wrapper | Sep 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | btw, rianne will be mostly mia except few things inc. android leftovers | Sep 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | she wants to ace the exam and has a day left now | Sep 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | she and I are rather amazed at how old the new PM looks | Sep 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | through she was born 2 years apart from rianne | Sep 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | liz warren is like 30 years older and you can compare | Sep 07 08:54 |
| Techrights-sec | Good luck on the exams | Sep 07 08:54 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz | [y/N] y | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Waiting for database to unlock ...lock acquired | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Record added | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Creating temporary directories and files | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Creating static XHTML and GemText hierarchies | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | GemText path missing | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | USAGE: | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | /usr/local/bin/tm-extract-posts-sql.pl [-ahfsuv] [-d date] [-g path] [-x path] | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | -a, --all extract all records regardless of other settings | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | -d, --date date as YYYYMMDD, defaults to today if missing | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | -f, --force force all files, written or unwritten | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | -g, --gemini override default destination path for GemText | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | -s, --since also include all posts since the given date | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | -u, --unwritten extract all unwritten records | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | -x, --xhtml override default destination path for XHTML | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | -v, --verbose show debugging info | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | -h, --help show this message | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | By default, only records which have not been extracted yet | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | will be written. This can be overriden with the -f option. | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | The -g and -x options can each be used to point to other paths | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | and override the defaults: | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | GemText path: | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | /home/gemini/gemini/n | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | XHTML path: | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | /var/www/tuxmacihines.org/htdocs/n | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | The -a and the -u option are mutually exclusive and -a takes | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | precedence. | Sep 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | --- | Sep 07 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the ssi part now links to a page that does not exist, "Not found" | Sep 07 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the breadcrump trail (well, not really breadcrumb, more like horizontal navigation) does not link to the new page that does not exist | Sep 07 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but the ssi/footer does | Sep 07 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the rss feed does not seem to link to it either | Sep 07 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | just gathering some debug info | Sep 07 09:02 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 09:02 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Sep 07 09:02 |
| Techrights-sec | Which SSI part? | Sep 07 09:02 |
| Techrights-sec | I see now "Other Recent Tux Machines' Posts" | Sep 07 09:02 |
| Techrights-sec | thanks | Sep 07 09:03 |
| Techrights-sec | The -a option works, though takes a long time. | Sep 07 09:10 |
| Techrights-sec | Can you try add-and-refresh-from-db.sh ? | Sep 07 09:10 |
| schestowitz | see gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/04/RIP_Peter_Eckersley.gmi | Sep 07 09:15 |
| schestowitz | there is a link to the image | Sep 07 09:15 |
| schestowitz | but maybe with softlinks we can make these possible to serve over gemini:// ? | Sep 07 09:15 |
| schestowitz | in largrange is gives option to expand to show the image | Sep 07 09:16 |
| schestowitz | but it is relative, not absolute, and over http/s | Sep 07 09:16 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, the -a option worked, but the add-and-refresh-from-db.sh needs double- | Sep 07 09:17 |
| Techrights-sec | checking atm. I think I have tracked down all the loose ends. | Sep 07 09:17 |
| Techrights-sec | Can the Gemini server handle symlinks ? | Sep 07 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe that depends on which server | Sep 07 09:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but surely making copies of all the images just for ~gemini would make no practical sense | Sep 07 09:18 |
| Techrights-sec | Gemini's not really designed for images though. | Sep 07 09:18 |
| Techrights-sec | I would think that the click-through rate for the images would be microscopically low and not worth the disk space. | Sep 07 09:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I agree, so maybe the url can be converted to absolute in gemini:// / .gmi | Sep 07 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so that if it's clicked on the image opened in an external program (e.g. browser, gimp..) | Sep 07 09:20 |
| Techrights-sec | That would be possible by retaining the HTTP/HTTPS scheme at the start of the | Sep 07 09:20 |
| Techrights-sec | URL | Sep 07 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I just stumbled upon it by serendipity, seeing that some recent pages, where images are also links, | Sep 07 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | show up before the text | Sep 07 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in lagrange this enables stuff like feature images in articles | Sep 07 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | most other clients I know of (except 2) do not have build-in image support | Sep 07 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but there is nothing inherently against image objects in gemini | Sep 07 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | many people host their photo album and art in gemini | Sep 07 09:24 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | lupa also indexes them and lists them as a file type in geminispace | Sep 07 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | kristall has rudimentary build-in support for http/s, so linking to images over http/s would enable clicking to view images from within kristall | Sep 07 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *build-in | Sep 07 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | -> built-in | Sep 07 09:24 |
| schestowitz | I wonder, | Sep 07 09:25 |
| schestowitz | gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/i/2022/09/logo.png | Sep 07 09:25 |
| schestowitz | that's what one link looks like atm | Sep 07 09:25 |
| schestowitz | if ~/gemini/gemini/i was created | Sep 07 09:25 |
| schestowitz | and was set to be like a virtual structure linking to the www side, it might work | Sep 07 09:26 |
| Techrights-sec | The more scraping which is done the more brittle the whole thing becomes. | Sep 07 09:29 |
| Techrights-sec | The IMG elements are manually generated. | Sep 07 09:29 |
| Techrights-sec | ~/gemini/gemini/i could by a symlink to the HTML side, but it would be better | Sep 07 09:29 |
| Techrights-sec | to just turn the src attribute into an absolute URL for the image over on | Sep 07 09:29 |
| Techrights-sec | the HTTP(S) server. That would be the least complexity and IMO the most in | Sep 07 09:29 |
| Techrights-sec | line with the Gemini way of doing things. | Sep 07 09:29 |
| Techrights-sec | Gemini is not suited for large files, and even the smallest images are | Sep 07 09:29 |
| Techrights-sec | gigantic. | Sep 07 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yes, makes sense | Sep 07 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if done this way, I can do a video demo later of how kristall and lagrance handle the images in tuxmachines | Sep 07 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and maybe explain that in theory they could be served over gemini:// albeit impractical | Sep 07 09:30 |
| Techrights-sec | An image is a separate document in Gemini. There are no provisions for inline | Sep 07 09:31 |
| Techrights-sec | images or anyting other than the body text and a very small number of structures | Sep 07 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that is a client-level feature | Sep 07 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | left for the client to decide | Sep 07 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | with some settings | Sep 07 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in lagrrance the image is rendered only ig you scroll, hit space bar, or arrow keys, by default | Sep 07 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | bbl exercise | Sep 07 09:32 |
| Techrights-sec | As far as I can tell it is a design feature of the protocol. The image will | Sep 07 09:33 |
| Techrights-sec | always be an external document distinct from the body. | Sep 07 09:33 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 09:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | arindam has just added a page | Sep 07 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it was updated OK in rss and html, have not checked gmi yet | Sep 07 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but I assume that too will be OK | Sep 07 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I will soon add some pages, take note of duration of process | Sep 07 10:25 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 10:25 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Sep 07 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | rianne just got her certificate | Sep 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | arindam posted a second new page OK | Sep 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | having enrolled him as a user with limit to two commands, we can replicate the same for any future users | Sep 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but we need to be 'conservative' in who we give access too not for sec reasons but editorial/QA reasons | Sep 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | due to past experiences | Sep 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like vetting | Sep 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there were people I gave drupal access to, which I later regretted | Sep 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because they posted junk | Sep 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and I didn't want to get in the way like editorial censor | Sep 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so left in tact some shitty things | Sep 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | sometimes just cautioned about future additions, e.g. "please in the future, no WSL" | Sep 07 10:34 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, spam is to be avoided. | Sep 07 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the rationale was,. | Sep 07 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | WSL is Windows | Sep 07 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Windows is against Linux | Sep 07 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | We don't do Windows | Sep 07 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | WSL is a misnomer, too | Sep 07 10:48 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes WSL /is/ WIndows and further it is strategic in heading off GNU/Linux | Sep 07 10:48 |
| Techrights-sec | installations. | Sep 07 10:48 |
| Techrights-sec | It should be LSW, based on how it works. | Sep 07 10:48 |
| Techrights-sec | (or fails to work) | Sep 07 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it'll die in a year or few years | Sep 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | based on lack of visibility | Sep 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ryan says amazon just laid off 100,000 workers | Sep 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but could not yield any reference for that | Sep 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | msft is laying off 10%, i.e. about 18k | Sep 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in "startegic" units | Sep 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe wsl already got the cull, quietly | Sep 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the tumour must now spread and metastasise through those that have momentum | Sep 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | e.g. former Canonical | Sep 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | former Red Hat | Sep 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | --- | Sep 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ryan is full of shit sometimes and I think his environment and the media is to blame | Sep 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like, theyu incite him agaionst "greeedy" and "lazy" teachers | Sep 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he is missing the point | Sep 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | my aunt was a teacher in FL and complained about how parents would contact her ourt of hours | Sep 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and she had to work up exams out of working outs | Sep 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | all for a meager salary | Sep 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | this ios the sort of press that I saw yestewrday when I looked for "more" 'news'... | Sep 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | at least ryan used two other channels yesterday, for more off-topic stuff | Sep 07 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | The Reagan administration slashed education by 40% if I recall correctly, | Sep 07 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | it has been whittled down every year since. Then certain parts (all) of the | Sep 07 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | media has agitated against the teachers ever since. The US is crossing a | Sep 07 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | tipping point. There have been two full generations of people without access | Sep 07 11:01 |
| Techrights-sec | to basic education. A third is on the way. No 1st world nation can survive | Sep 07 11:01 |
| Techrights-sec | that level of pervasive, militant ignornance. | Sep 07 11:01 |
| Techrights-sec | Anyway, soon pushing changes to the work flow to convert images to bare | Sep 07 11:01 |
| Techrights-sec | links labeled by their ALT or TITLE attributes. In gemini, that is. | Sep 07 11:01 |
| Techrights-sec | s/ignornance/ignorance/ | Sep 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | this way more might vote for insurreection, support gun mania etc. | Sep 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | regarding gemini, should we manually add title/alt? alt is blank by default, maybe it can copy the base filename (prior to dot) | Sep 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | GOP: if we win, we win, owing to ignorant masses. If we lose, bear arms! "Own the libs" by taking on the Capitol. | Sep 07 11:03 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | <techrights-news> Times Higher Education: now some unis hire CLOWNS. They actually use the term. They want CLOWNS... to outsource the uni infra to CLOWN COMPUTING. IOW, they don't need to know ANY computing, just sign a GAFAM contract. https://www.timeshighereducation.com/unijobs/listing/308195/cloud-administrator-linux-and-hpc/?trackid=10&utm_source=the-jobs-service | Sep 07 11:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.timeshighereducation.com | Cloud Administrator, Linux and HPC job with SWINBURNE UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY | 308195 | Sep 07 11:05 | |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | <techrights-news> Tech admin 1990s: CS background. Tech admin 2000: MBA. Tech admin 2022: clown. Sign contracts to outsource everything to CLOWN computing. | Sep 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Waiting for database to unlock ...lock acquired | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Failure: missing or empty ALT attribute in IMG. Add it to proceed. | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | press RETURN | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Record added | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Creating temporary directories and files | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Creating static XHTML and GemText hierarchies | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Destination '/home/gemini/gemini/n/2022/09/07/Today_in_Techrights.gmi' is not writable | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | 'Today_in_Techrights' could not be written | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Updating SSI files | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Writing the RSS feed for HTTP | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Writing the Atom feed for Gemini | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Writing the Gemini index | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Pinging via MQTT | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Error: Problem setting TLS options: File not found. | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Erasing temporary directories and their files. | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | oh, I see | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not it demands alt in/after nano | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *now | Sep 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | -rw-rw-r-- 1 arindam gemtext 968 Sep 7 10:22 GNOME_43_Misses_Window_to_Merge_Ubuntu_s_Triple_Buffering_Patch.gmi | Sep 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz | -rw-rw-r-- 1 arindam gemtext 890 Sep 7 10:22 KDE_s_Kaidan_Messaging_App_Plans_for_Encrypted_Audio_and_Video_.gmi | Sep 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz | -rw-rw-r-- 1 roy gemtext 2278 Sep 7 10:22 Programming_Leftovers.gmi | Sep 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz | -rw-rw-r-- 1 roy gemtext 1324 Sep 7 10:22 ROCK_4_SE_Single_Board_Computer_goes_on_sale_for_70.gmi | Sep 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz | -rw-rw-r-- 1 roy gemtext 866 Sep 7 10:22 Synaptic_kind_of_working_on_EasyOS_Dunfell_series.gmi | Sep 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz | -rw-rw-r-- 1 roy gemtext 1227 Sep 7 10:22 Tere_A_Faster_Alternative_to_cd_ls_in_Linux.gmi | Sep 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz | -rw-r--r-- 1 tuxmachines gemtext 832 Sep 7 09:28 Today_in_Techrights.gmi | Sep 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | -rw-r--r-- and owned by TM, that's OK | Sep 07 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | must have been something amended at your end | Sep 07 11:24 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | Sep 07 11:25 |
| Techrights-sec | That requiring ALT is necessary both for accessibility but also for the | Sep 07 11:25 |
| Techrights-sec | linking changes requested today. | Sep 07 11:25 |
| Techrights-sec | Checking the permissions... | Sep 07 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if the upload tool is used in interactive mode later, maybe "enter url", "enter short desc", .. | Sep 07 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | got daily links | Sep 07 11:26 |
| Techrights-sec | The manual activity trips up because of umask. Not sure what to fix it with. | Sep 07 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I thought it was a symptom of a bigger issue | Sep 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | also, for marius, rianne and arindam it can be intimidating to see this when adding the next 50 odd posts | Sep 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and then ask questions | Sep 07 11:29 |
| Techrights-sec | The validation is necessary though. Perhaps the warning can be made | Sep 07 11:31 |
| Techrights-sec | more appealing somehow? | Sep 07 11:31 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | I was referring to the permission issue associated with read-only for group owned by TM account | Sep 07 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and how often it would repeat thereafter if left unaltered | Sep 07 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the ALT-related warning is very clear | Sep 07 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and maybe best tackled by giving a prompt for some text, with intiiaial default value being the name of the file | Sep 07 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in gemini, I noticed it links to the thumbnail ratheer than the full-sized version | Sep 07 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | (I plan to do a video about this later, with kristall and lagrange; I have about 9 gemini clients installed on this box) | Sep 07 11:34 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 11:35 |
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| Techrights-sec | The processing has to choose an XPath. //a[@href] is not an image but | Sep 07 11:37 |
| Techrights-sec | a hyperlink. //img[@src] on the other hand *is* an image. There's not | Sep 07 11:37 |
| Techrights-sec | really any reliable way to use the former to guess at what might or might not | Sep 07 11:37 |
| Techrights-sec | be an image, except to fetch the image and analyze it with 'file' or similar | Sep 07 11:37 |
| Techrights-sec | tool. | Sep 07 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | brb coffee | Sep 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I'm back to coffee (from tea) after about 5 weeks | Sep 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | also breakfast, started posting the daily links, will do another full batch after midday | Sep 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then might record, lots of rain her this week | Sep 07 11:38 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *here | Sep 07 11:38 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | just experienced non-fatal editing conflict | Sep 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | as before | Sep 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | nothing went bad | Sep 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I was editing at the same time as rianne | Sep 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | what happens then it, | Sep 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | one side, when posting gets alerted and the other put on hold in the interim | Sep 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's only mindboggling when one did not experience it before | Sep 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yes, it's all fine at the end | Sep 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but one side is shown an error when it generates something | Sep 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | though it seems like either a false alarm or something that settles itself when the editor put "on hold" is done finalising the record addition | Sep 07 13:10 |
| Techrights-sec | Ol, but it resolves automatically, after a bit right? | Sep 07 13:10 |
| Techrights-sec | Great. | Sep 07 13:10 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm pretty sure that kind of thing is a limitation of sqlite. PostgreSQL | Sep 07 13:10 |
| Techrights-sec | can handle concurrent users better but is *way* heavier. | Sep 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | static page generator does not need postgres or mariadb | Sep 07 13:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because very few people ever access the db | Sep 07 13:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and the db itself is critical only in the data integrity sense | Sep 07 13:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in TM (soon TR) person A adds one row to one table (unless there are foreign keys etc) | Sep 07 13:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | db is then queried | Sep 07 13:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | done until a new row gets added | Sep 07 13:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so write operations per day are few | Sep 07 13:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and read operations less than 99% of the day | Sep 07 13:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in drupal every page access is a write, e.g. for logs/stats | Sep 07 13:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | which makes the system more brittle | Sep 07 13:14 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes | Sep 07 13:14 |
| Techrights-sec | Probably someone skilled with SQLite3 could refine the interaction and locking | Sep 07 13:14 |
| Techrights-sec | better so that it goes more smoothly. | Sep 07 13:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we pay a high price for complexity in June when the DB was starting to bite itself off | Sep 07 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and lost thousands of records, sort of glued them back together after many were lost | Sep 07 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that's why I rolled back | Sep 07 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | only after meticullously making static page for each new record added since | Sep 07 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it took a ton of time, energy, sleepless nights (not literally) | Sep 07 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | when I studied CS (2000) they gave us a homedir | Sep 07 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | over NFS | Sep 07 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that had public_html | Sep 07 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so cs.man.ac.uk (dead domain) ~username had your homepage in it | Sep 07 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | cgi, html, etc. | Sep 07 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | no databases | Sep 07 13:18 |
| Techrights-sec | Sep 07 13:21 | |
| Techrights-sec | The static nature reduces the load a lot, so it could run fine even if it had | Sep 07 13:21 |
| Techrights-sec | stayed on the RPi. | Sep 07 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | drupal and wordpress do not have a real dir structure, it's considered virtual and it's embedded in software or config files, e.g. for apache | Sep 07 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in the past you literally had to change apache configs for those | Sep 07 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | with no simple conversion from virtual to direct/physical | Sep 07 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | with some of the heavy DBs I don't even know how good a conversion one gets | Sep 07 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | e.g. CSV | Sep 07 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | as opposed to a long series of sql statements | Sep 07 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | creatd table... | Sep 07 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | add... | Sep 07 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | which is how you load the pertinent data into "the blob" | Sep 07 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | re | Sep 07 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ==== | Sep 07 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | The static nature reduces the load a lot, so it could run fine even if it had | Sep 07 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | stayed on the RPi. | Sep 07 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ---- | Sep 07 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | when I studied CS PCs had one processor core | Sep 07 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not 96 cores at 3GHz | Sep 07 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | browsers rendered descriptions of pages, sometimes gzip'ed to help with bandwidth | Sep 07 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | text compresses well | Sep 07 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | esp. if single language and many of the same elements,e g <p> | Sep 07 13:24 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, back then computing environments were much more advanced yet simpler. | Sep 07 13:24 |
| Techrights-sec | HTTP is useless as an API because it is, at its foundation, stateless. | Sep 07 13:24 |
| Techrights-sec | Any semblance of sessions is a kludge at best. | Sep 07 13:24 |
| Techrights-sec | In the middle 1990's servers ran fine with Megabytes of RAM, measured in | Sep 07 13:24 |
| Techrights-sec | single digits. | Sep 07 13:24 |
| u-amarsh04 | may middle 1980's, the VAX 8600 I used in 1986 already had 16 Megabytes of RAM | Sep 07 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we've moved from ssedans to SUVs | Sep 07 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and sometimes the driver is the sole person on the road | Sep 07 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we need to get that old car back | Sep 07 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not smart | Sep 07 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not SUV | Sep 07 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | just a means of tranportation | Sep 07 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gemini is not the only technical counterculture | Sep 07 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gnunet had a new release | Sep 07 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but last I checked it was still sonky | Sep 07 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *sonky | Sep 07 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | >wonky | Sep 07 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it is also connected to gnu taler, which isn't some pile of steaming shit burning off fossil fuel/coal-generated currnt for "valuable" 0s and 1s | Sep 07 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | u-amarsh04: my first PC was 4 colours | Sep 07 13:28 |
| u-amarsh04 | I ran monochrome for several years | Sep 07 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | before I had my own PC the friends' PCs were monoccrome | Sep 07 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | CGA came later | Sep 07 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then EGA and VGA | Sep 07 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | iirc, EGA was 8 colours | Sep 07 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the CGA monitors had a green-only mode at the back | Sep 07 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the PC itself had "turbo" mode | Sep 07 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | somehow all this was enough to keep us entertained and occupied | Sep 07 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 13:33 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | yesterday rianne and I spokem in the kitchen about the effect of inflation in our household | Sep 07 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | thinking aloud | Sep 07 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | turns out, we pay more or less the same fod food by 'cheating' the "system" with bargain hunting | Sep 07 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and energy bills probably rose by no more than 20% this past year | Sep 07 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe more, but it seems def. not more than 30% | Sep 07 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | many of the other expenses are all the same | Sep 07 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so to us, given these circumstance, the relative inflation is like a negligible 50 pounds a month, maybe less | Sep 07 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | my dad is the same, he does not drive much and avoids "brands" | Sep 07 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | lots of articles today about truss/trump, with too much (imho) focus on energy prices | Sep 07 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | when the issues are a lot more profound than that | Sep 07 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i wonder ;cuit bono' when all focus is shifted to money, esp. energy | Sep 07 14:14 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 14:30 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | my name is a dyin breed | Sep 07 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | rianne's name has a similar meaning but the female version | Sep 07 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2012/10/27/coincidence-in-names/ | Sep 07 15:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Coincidence in Names | Sep 07 15:50 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 16:10 |
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| Techrights-sec | Should the navigation menu in tm-new have a hyperlink to the latest post? | Sep 07 16:51 |
| Techrights-sec | On the one hand, it'd be one more thing to break and would take navigation.html | Sep 07 16:51 |
| Techrights-sec | out of Git. On the other hand, it could be generated as part of the update process. | Sep 07 16:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | good thing you brought that up | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | earlier today rianne said she could barely find her new page | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | as it was further down the list | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I said it's roganised by more complex criteria | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like number of updates, a surrogate for importance | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the latest story has no meaning | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | as it's not chronological in the news sense | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | just the posting sense | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so other sorting criteria or clustering might help | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in www.tuxmachines.org I set apart latest and updated but a better | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | criteria might sort them roughly into categories | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | e.g. today's leftovers | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | howtos | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and cluster them in the front page, maybe even ssi | Sep 07 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ssi | Sep 07 16:54 |
| Techrights-sec | The sorting is currently handled in SQL and not so much in Perl. | Sep 07 16:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a few sieves (e.g. through titles) can help toss them into buckets | Sep 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and then present a more clustered view based on patterns | Sep 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | without us having to enter tags or select categories | Sep 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I thought about doing that in www.tm as I had already scanned for the word "UPDATED" (case sensitive, too) | Sep 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the headline style has been consistent since susan ran it | Sep 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so there is room for grouping stuff and not computionally-expensive, least of the factor being the one-off nature of static page generators | Sep 07 16:57 |
| Techrights-sec | The updated records float to the top as it stands now. | Sep 07 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | time alone (or last updated) is a criterion that mnight not help organise the brain | Sep 07 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I've long comp[lained that social control media was a sea/ocean of unrelated bullshiot | Sep 07 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and the mind could not focus on a flow like literature... | Sep 07 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | one moment trump, then this other thing, then trump again, then a friend's photo... | Sep 07 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in the case of GNU/Linux we had people who subscribe over rss to just on categroy or a set of categories of choice | Sep 07 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but that is not the same thing | Sep 07 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | nor are the linux "homepages" that clsuetrr based on sources | Sep 07 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | rather than cluster based on themes, stories etc. | Sep 07 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gulag noise USED to try to cluster relted stories | Sep 07 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | now it's optimised not to actually help the user! | Sep 07 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | case of poiint, some people LOOOOOVE howtos | Sep 07 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they're HUNGRERY for them | Sep 07 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and they say they are hungry for them | Sep 07 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because they try to learn | Sep 07 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and practice | Sep 07 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and read up | Sep 07 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and tinker | Sep 07 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but people like me just mostly shelve them | Sep 07 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | OTOH, some people use Android, and more people over time, so to them a bunch of Android news can help | Sep 07 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it is, after all, based on Linux | Sep 07 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | clustering let's people either focus or ignore something | Sep 07 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "this shit isn't for me" | Sep 07 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "oh, I LOVE this distro!" | Sep 07 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it would probably be computationally cheap to split up the "more posts from TM" into 2-3 divs, with a crude automated attempt to classift them a bit | Sep 07 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | based on some logical, practical taxonomy | Sep 07 17:05 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 17:33 |
| Techrights-sec | Though only if they were updated in the last day or so. | Sep 07 17:33 |
| Techrights-sec | Otherwise, they stay where they are in the sequence. | Sep 07 17:33 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | gulag says it indexed about 2000 pages in the new site, plus many images | Sep 07 17:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's not something I truly care about, but that comes to show how "reputation" ranks | Sep 07 17:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | OTA | Sep 07 17:56 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | <techrights-news> Microsoft Windows TCO, but the Microsofters leave that part out https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/the-lockbit-ransomware-gang-is-surprisingly-professional.html | Sep 07 18:27 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The LockBit Ransomware Gang Is Surprisingly Professional - Schneier on Security | Sep 07 18:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://make.wordpress.org/security/2022/09/07/dropping-security-updates-for-wordpress-versions-3-7-through-4-0/ | Sep 07 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-make.wordpress.org | Dropping security updates for WordPress versions 3.7 through 4.0 – Making WordPress Secure | Sep 07 18:42 | |
| schestowitz | push comes to shove | Sep 07 18:42 |
| schestowitz | let us shove bloated shit down your throats | Sep 07 18:42 |
| schestowitz | react, JS, clown... | Sep 07 18:42 |
| schestowitz | or else | Sep 07 18:42 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 18:43 |
| Techrights-sec | Looking at this: | Sep 07 18:43 |
| Techrights-sec | Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 5,214 | Sep 07 18:43 |
| Techrights-sec | Development Effort Estimate, Person-Years (Person-Months) = 1.13 (13.59) | Sep 07 18:43 |
| Techrights-sec | (Basic COCOMO model, Person-Months = 2.4 * (KSLOC**1.05)) | Sep 07 18:43 |
| Techrights-sec | Schedule Estimate, Years (Months) = 0.56 (6.74) | Sep 07 18:43 |
| Techrights-sec | (Basic COCOMO model, Months = 2.5 * (person-months**0.38)) | Sep 07 18:43 |
| Techrights-sec | Estimated Average Number of Developers (Effort/Schedule) = 2.02 | Sep 07 18:43 |
| Techrights-sec | from D.A.W. sloccount | Sep 07 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | working from an office is not about productivity but about beint controlled | Sep 07 18:44 |
| Techrights-sec | Agreed | Sep 07 18:44 |
| Techrights-sec | Inline images are not part of the Gemini spec and should not be expected to | Sep 07 19:09 |
| Techrights-sec | work or render in any clients; There was talk about other extenions in the | Sep 07 19:09 |
| Techrights-sec | past before the mailing list was shut down. They were all rejected in favor | Sep 07 19:09 |
| Techrights-sec | of maintaining the clean simplicity offered by the current specs. | Sep 07 19:09 |
| Techrights-sec | https://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/gemtext.gmi | Sep 07 19:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gemini.circumlunar.space | A quick introduction to "gemtext" markup | Sep 07 19:09 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/specification.gmi | Sep 07 19:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gemini.circumlunar.space | Project Gemini | Sep 07 19:09 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | s/shut down/coredumped/ | Sep 07 19:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in some sense, the mailing list outlived its need | Sep 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | due to s/n ratio | Sep 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because of antenna | Sep 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | using https archives | Sep 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or email | Sep 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | where you can discuss the issues across capsules | Sep 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | seemed somewhat unnecessary | Sep 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but many are accustomed to mailing lists | Sep 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they can be a lot of work to keep abrease of | Sep 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and a lot of b/w wasted due to how it handles threading | Sep 07 19:12 |
| Techrights-sec | Anyway, in Gemini there is no such thing as inline graphics, so it would | Sep 07 19:14 |
| Techrights-sec | be unwise to promote the false idea. | Sep 07 19:14 |
| Techrights-sec | Almost, there were still a lot of uses for it, but if the purpose was to | Sep 07 19:14 |
| Techrights-sec | define or polish the specification then, yes, it was done. | Sep 07 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | discussing the spcs can be done using bugzilla or other such tools | Sep 07 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like gitlab | Sep 07 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | nbot that I'm a fna of it | Sep 07 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | better org | Sep 07 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | de-dupe | Sep 07 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | organisation | Sep 07 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and s/n ratio | Sep 07 19:14 |
| Techrights-sec | Though there is still the bug about large files. | Sep 07 19:16 |
| Techrights-sec | Mail is better threaded than the competing options, for the most part. It | Sep 07 19:16 |
| Techrights-sec | is all about avoiding web mail and using a proper client with sorting, filtering | Sep 07 19:16 |
| Techrights-sec | and other capabilities. | Sep 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | chats and email lists feel different | Sep 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but like bosses who sell to us "productivity" (when all they seek is spying on "the people I own") | Sep 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the purpose of these isn't to enhance productivity | Sep 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I nthink you youirself (or a feed from your opml) | Sep 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | mentioned how it was time to give up on self-hosting email | Sep 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because the "oligarchy" or "oligopoly" won | Sep 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so what email used to be is not relevant to the present | Sep 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | now they expect you to register with gulag or gatesEpsteinMail to get through to recipient | Sep 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and that means more spying and manipulation beyond ads | Sep 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | an fucking around with good old protocols | Sep 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | fgor business reasona alone | Sep 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "we OWN these now" | Sep 07 19:18 |
| Techrights-sec | There was another article about giving up self-hosting. | Sep 07 19:30 |
| Techrights-sec | (e-mail that is) | Sep 07 19:30 |
| Techrights-sec | Self-hosting in general is getting harder and it seems that things are lining | Sep 07 19:30 |
| Techrights-sec | up to prevent it in any form during the coming decade or so, unless the | Sep 07 19:30 |
| Techrights-sec | direction we are heading changes. | Sep 07 19:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but was self-hosting from home common at all in the dial-up era? I think not. | Sep 07 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in some senses, we've made advances | Sep 07 19:31 |
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| Techrights-sec | It was not really feasible during the dialup era. Though for a large fee | Sep 07 19:40 |
| Techrights-sec | one could get a dedicated data line. | Sep 07 19:40 |
| Techrights-sec | In contrast, today from an infrastructural perspecitive it is trivial to host | Sep 07 19:40 |
| Techrights-sec | at home. The main risk is overprovisioning. There is a lot to gain from | Sep 07 19:40 |
| Techrights-sec | economy of scale at data centers, but that comes at the loss of control and | Sep 07 19:40 |
| Techrights-sec | privacy. Around 20+ years ago, most major companies refused to use online | Sep 07 19:40 |
| Techrights-sec | databases because they were concerned about how much competitive advantage | Sep 07 19:40 |
| Techrights-sec | they would lose by leaking all their activities to external observers. | Sep 07 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I think we need to rock the boat and bit | Sep 07 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and urge others to do the same | Sep 07 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for self-hosting to be "a thing" | Sep 07 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then, there will be too many shouting "plebs" | Sep 07 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to outright ban the practice | Sep 07 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | same for: | Sep 07 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | rejection of SpyMeters | Sep 07 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ejection is 'self [sic] service' [sic] checkouts | Sep 07 19:41 |
| Techrights-sec | Agreed. Though it is getting harder with the two remaining major browsers | Sep 07 19:43 |
| Techrights-sec | under control of the same company. A company so hostile to self-hosting | Sep 07 19:43 |
| Techrights-sec | that it gives grief to self-signed certificates while allowing all manner | Sep 07 19:43 |
| Techrights-sec | of dodgy CAs to be represented in each browser. Further, other projects | Sep 07 19:43 |
| Techrights-sec | like wget and paho don't deal with self-signed (self-vouched for) certificates | Sep 07 19:43 |
| Techrights-sec | or even popular stuff like Let's Encrypt. | Sep 07 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | wget and curl both have options | Sep 07 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you can alter defaultas | Sep 07 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | (I've always felt quiet resentment over how Snowden bragged his leaks stirred up shit for SSL everywhere | Sep 07 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to the point it was exploited for another KIND of power grab) | Sep 07 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | [15:21] <techrights-news> When you expose the surveillance state ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/06/new-book-says-nsa-pressured-gchq-to-shut-down-publication-of-snowden-leaks-by-uk-journalists/ | Source: Techdirt | Sep 07 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-New Book Says NSA Pressured GCHQ To Shut Down Publication Of Snowden Leaks By UK Journalists | Techdirt | Sep 07 19:46 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | [15:21] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- New Book Says NSA Pressured GCHQ To Shut Down Publication Of Snowden Leaks By UK Journalists | Techdirt | Sep 07 19:46 |
| Techrights-sec | The option with wget is to /ignore/ the certificates. That's not a feasible | Sep 07 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | solution for either self-vouched for certificates or certificates which | Sep 07 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | have been vouched for by Let's Encrypt. | Sep 07 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | Those leaks were quickly brushed under the rug and the highlighted transgressions normalized. | Sep 07 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | The point of SSL everywhere is not privacy, something which is obviated | Sep 07 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | by the CA list. The point of SSL everywhere is to ban sites which have | Sep 07 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | not been subjugated to an 'authorized' business or organization's CA. | Sep 07 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | Again, it's about control. And censorship. | Sep 07 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | And turning the Internet, but first the Web, read-only. | Sep 07 19:48 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | as you say, and you tell me nothing I didn't think of already ( :) ), we're just waiting for some events to validate these concerns | Sep 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like Lenovo with Windows-only laptops | Sep 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | either way, yes, it is about control and the more people resist, the better | Sep 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | EFF and FSF won't do a thing sadly | Sep 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or barely a thing | Sep 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | FSF even outsourced IRC to some lousy gits | Sep 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I didn't likie freenode even before the scandals | Sep 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but it was a network effect thing | Sep 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there was only one major network | Sep 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to the point where freenode was implicit when you mentioned irc | Sep 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | except maybe in non-techj context or games | Sep 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ----- | Sep 07 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | of note: wikileaks configured its own irc network, but some pedo (siggi, iceland) was controlled by fbi to spy on that network | Sep 07 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe also direct messages between people on that network | Sep 07 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not sure if his perversion was used for enhanced blackmail | Sep 07 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they put him behind bars eventually, regardless... | Sep 07 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | some others died, like @6 in twitter.... lamo | Sep 07 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ardian | Sep 07 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | adrian | Sep 07 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I spoke to him a few times | Sep 07 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not a pleasnat person | Sep 07 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a snake | Sep 07 19:54 |
| Techrights-sec | Meanwhile, 'chat control' is wending its way through the EU bureaucracy. | Sep 07 19:55 |
| Techrights-sec | EFF and FSF are quiet on that topic too. | Sep 07 19:55 |
| Techrights-sec | Freenode was abused to centralize IRC. Several powerful interests dislike | Sep 07 19:55 |
| Techrights-sec | and/or are disturbed by decentralized services and appear to fight them by | Sep 07 19:55 |
| Techrights-sec | various means. | Sep 07 19:55 |
| Techrights-sec | Or if that was a means to control him and steer him to enter the organization | Sep 07 19:55 |
| Techrights-sec | on their behalf? | Sep 07 19:55 |
| Techrights-sec | Like m$ used M$ Peter and probably held threats over him to get him into | Sep 07 19:55 |
| Techrights-sec | somewhere, anywhere, and writing to further their agenda. | Sep 07 19:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we can only ever speculate about that | Sep 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i'll get back to posting links in TM noiw | Sep 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | rianne is doing more practice | Sep 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and we'll see the attorney on friday to finalise things | Sep 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for this exa they give the result on the spot | Sep 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | she will get easy pass | Sep 07 19:57 |
| Techrights-sec | Speculate but there seem to have been lots of circumstantial material, | Sep 07 19:57 |
| Techrights-sec | especially retrospectively, pointing to that conclusion. | Sep 07 19:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | circumstantial material -> trolled in socail control media | Sep 07 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | police files -> trolls silent in social control media, look for other targets | Sep 07 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | 'softer' targets | Sep 07 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | of note but unimportant: | Sep 07 20:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a) takes about a quarter the time it did before to add a new TM page | Sep 07 20:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | b) I've just added a gif file, it took over a minute to convert that animated gif | Sep 07 20:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | c) server has 32 cpu cores, iirc (top, press 1) | Sep 07 20:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | d) rianne will be back to posting as normal this weekend | Sep 07 20:16 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 07 20:20 |
| Techrights-sec | b) which script? | Sep 07 20:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | thwe test uploader | Sep 07 20:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I've just checked resultant file sizes | Sep 07 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gvlx/status/1566481951434936320 | Sep 07 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gvlx: Trouble on LF? https://t.co/WfgkHbeDKy via @schestowitz #OpenSource @linuxfoundation | Sep 07 20:45 | |
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