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schestowitzEarly adopters. I'm 99% certain we had a CD player in 1984, 85 at theOct 07 01:52
schestowitzlatest. It had a motorised try just a like a CD-ROM, though it was in aOct 07 01:52
schestowitzstereo-rack unit so 2 to 2 1/2 times the width of the CD tray itself.Oct 07 01:52
schestowitzNot every technology was worth adopting/early. MiniDisk was useless. FunOct 07 01:52
schestowitzidea, but once sound went digital America spent a lot of time trying toOct 07 01:52
schestowitzfigure out how to break things (copy protection) as a priority overOct 07 01:52
schestowitzconvenience or quality. So cool tech was seen (by the companies who soldOct 07 01:52
schestowitzit) as more of a threat than a business opportunity.Oct 07 01:52
schestowitz> Even though we were early adopters, we never threw out any old tapeOct 07 01:53
schestowitz> stuff. We made mix tapes (mostly for our own use, rarely for anybodyOct 07 01:54
schestowitz> else) and tapes to play in the car. At age 7 I was listening to BeatlesOct 07 01:54
schestowitz> remasters on my Walkman. Loved them ever since. The first contemporary /Oct 07 01:54
schestowitz> pop artist I liked was Phil Collins. I'm sure I've listened to "NoOct 07 01:54
schestowitz> Jacket Required" 1000 times. I got into Genesis later. Shame that collabOct 07 01:54
schestowitz> with Adele didn't pan out.Oct 07 01:54
schestowitz> Oct 07 01:54
schestowitz> We didn't throw much out-- I mean you meet people who still have aOct 07 01:54
schestowitz> TRS-80. I actually got to play with one of these:Oct 07 01:54
schestowitz> Oct 07 01:54
schestowitz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minivac_601Oct 07 01:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Minivac 601 - WikipediaOct 07 01:54
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schestowitzRMS:Oct 07 05:36
schestowitz> Richard Stallman wrote on 06/10/2020 03:34:Oct 07 05:36
schestowitz>>   > The job title aside,Oct 07 05:36
schestowitz>>Oct 07 05:36
schestowitz>> What is her job title?Oct 07 05:36
schestowitz>>Oct 07 05:36
schestowitz>> Can you tell if other people report to her?Oct 07 05:36
schestowitz>>Oct 07 05:36
schestowitz>> I would guess that she has said posted something about what her jobOct 07 05:36
schestowitz>> is.  Perhaps on LinkedIn.  I'd guess you have ways to accessOct 07 05:36
schestowitz>> peoples' LinkedIn profiles.Oct 07 05:36
schestowitz> I checked that the other week. It said architect or something to thatOct 07 05:36
schestowitz> effect. When you check (again) LinkedIn profiles it shows them who hasOct 07 05:36
schestowitz> checked. It's worse than Facebook in that regard (reporting to peopleOct 07 05:36
schestowitz> who looks at what things associated with them).Oct 07 05:36
schestowitzRMS:Oct 07 05:36
schestowitz> Thanks.Oct 07 05:36
schestowitz> Oct 07 05:36
schestowitz> Strange that there is no more info than that.  But I don't knowOct 07 05:36
schestowitz> of any way to get more.Oct 07 05:36
schestowitz>>>> https://www.itwire.com/journalist/sam-varghese.html?format=feedOct 07 05:55
schestowitz>>>>Oct 07 05:55
schestowitz>>> OK.  Added.  It should show up today.Oct 07 05:55
schestowitz>>> Oops. Left the feed URL out.  It's all set for tomorrow instead.Oct 07 05:55
schestowitz>> Yes, I have noticed the absence. Made up for it with quiterss for now.Oct 07 05:55
schestowitz>>Oct 07 05:55
schestowitz> Ok, his feed is included in today's set of links.Oct 07 05:55
schestowitzI've disabled my copy of it in quiterss. Many of his articles are not relevant to us, but some are. I wonder if he ever received my message at all.Oct 07 05:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gibikha/status/1313566674503823363Oct 07 08:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gibikha: @schestowitz This whole thing feels like an advertisement. He seems to be paraphrasing directly from marketing mat… https://t.co/sWzAD7TF81Oct 07 08:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gibikha: @schestowitz This whole thing feels like an advertisement. He seems to be paraphrasing directly from marketing mat… https://t.co/sWzAD7TF81Oct 07 08:25
schestowitz"Oct 07 08:25
schestowitzThis whole thing feels like an advertisement. Oct 07 08:25
schestowitzHe seems to be paraphrasing directly from marketing material.Oct 07 08:25
schestowitzThere is a talk by Helen Ball about just this thing.Oct 07 08:25
schestowitzMany "YouTubers" are only making videos to make money. Oct 07 08:25
schestowitzThey don't inform or provide any useful information.Oct 07 08:25
schestowitz"Oct 07 08:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gibikha/status/1313567657132687360Oct 07 08:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gibikha: @schestowitz Here's a good review as a contrast, that shares positive and negative points, actual testing of the pr… https://t.co/YGIaL2ow9jOct 07 08:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gibikha: @schestowitz Here's a good review as a contrast, that shares positive and negative points, actual testing of the pr… https://t.co/YGIaL2ow9jOct 07 08:25
schestowitz"Here's a good review as a contrast, that shares positive and negative points, actual testing of the product too. I try and share things like this as often as I can, but what can one man do? https://dedoimedo.com/computers/only"Oct 07 08:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/only )Oct 07 08:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gibikha/status/1313569115014074369Oct 07 08:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gibikha: @schestowitz Unfortunately this would require reading. Most people only seem to enjoy flashy videos. I don't think… https://t.co/CJ3cTJQL1TOct 07 08:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gibikha: @schestowitz Unfortunately this would require reading. Most people only seem to enjoy flashy videos. I don't think… https://t.co/CJ3cTJQL1TOct 07 08:25
schestowitz"Oct 07 08:25
schestowitzUnfortunately this would require reading. Most people only seem to enjoy flashy videos.Oct 07 08:25
schestowitzI don't think it was paid for by the guys at OnlyOffice, modern life seems to be doing favours for organisations.Oct 07 08:25
schestowitz"Oct 07 08:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lilycaliber/status/1313516936609894400Oct 07 08:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@lilycaliber: SPEND/SQUANDER SOME OF THAT BLOOD MONEY YOU GOT IN YOUR SETTLEMENT TO SEEK *YOUR* version of "justice". SPREAD SOME… https://t.co/ExKIf95zcIOct 07 08:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@lilycaliber: SPEND/SQUANDER SOME OF THAT BLOOD MONEY YOU GOT IN YOUR SETTLEMENT TO SEEK *YOUR* version of "justice". SPREAD SOME… https://t.co/ExKIf95zcIOct 07 08:27
schestowitz"SPEND/SQUANDER SOME OF THAT BLOOD MONEY YOU GOT IN YOUR SETTLEMENT TO SEEK *YOUR* version of "justice". SPREAD SOME OF THAT CASH U GOT TO INSURE " EQUITY" FOR ALL THE LAWERS."Oct 07 08:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/1313513655229710337Oct 07 08:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@wendycockcroft: @ScottNewgent @slightlyatsea @schestowitz this is one for Techrights.Oct 07 08:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pontoon_madness/status/1313460195998212097Oct 07 08:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@pontoon_madness: @schestowitz https://t.co/ipzGbktaDuOct 07 08:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@pontoon_madness: @schestowitz https://t.co/ipzGbktaDuOct 07 08:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IvanOstrovski/status/1313448660970110977Oct 07 08:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@IvanOstrovski: @schestowitz https://t.co/d4H7o1n5CNOct 07 08:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@IvanOstrovski: На тему трагедии в Нижнем Новгороде. Имя убийцы она сообщила. #IrinaSlavina #NizhnyNovgorod https://t.co/tx9eGDI3hQOct 07 08:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IvanOstrovski/status/1313448660970110977Oct 07 08:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Emilinehope/status/1313423650335358976Oct 07 08:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Emilinehope: @schestowitz The Gov have had eight months and still feck it up! 😡Oct 07 08:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AlwaystrumpOrg/status/1313405037620662273Oct 07 08:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AlwaystrumpOrg: Nope! He’s the smartest man in the #WORLD! Watch! https://t.co/UMIHGm3v8OOct 07 08:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #TheNation ☞ #Trump May Be Infectious, but He’s Still Ignorant https://t.co/dfnMEErWiKOct 07 08:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Emilinehope/status/1313395445272633344Oct 07 08:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Emilinehope: https://t.co/PsXuziBj8Y https://t.co/HmFPn93WMGOct 07 08:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #FiveThirtyEight #Health ☞ #Trump Is Giving Dangerous Advice. Being Afraid Of #COVID19 Has Helped Us Contr… https://t.co/NJ5Wd8tI8oOct 07 08:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Emilinehope: https://t.co/PsXuziBj8Y https://t.co/HmFPn93WMGOct 07 08:31
schestowitzx https://enter21st.com/people-gainedt-abandon-windows-7-report-suggests-os-remains-to-be-going-robust/Oct 07 08:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-enter21st.com | People gained’t abandon Windows 7, report suggests OS remains to be going robust - Enter21st.comOct 07 08:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/redgpus/status/1313223059315273729https://twitter.com/redgpus/status/1313223059315273729Oct 07 09:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@redgpus: Wat. https://t.co/LfLd5pkIn0Oct 07 09:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #khronos still needs to #deletegithub and not let #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware prison control #vulkan (for it to… https://t.co/CiTJLbfehEOct 07 09:11
schestowitz>>>>>> https://www.itwire.com/journalist/sam-varghese.html?format=feedOct 07 09:11
schestowitz>>>>>>Oct 07 09:11
schestowitz>>>>> OK.  Added.  It should show up today.Oct 07 09:11
schestowitz>>>>> Oops. Left the feed URL out.  It's all set for tomorrow instead.Oct 07 09:11
schestowitz>>>> Yes, I have noticed the absence. Made up for it with quiterss for now.Oct 07 09:11
schestowitz>>>>Oct 07 09:11
schestowitz>>> Ok, his feed is included in today's set of links.Oct 07 09:11
schestowitz>> I've disabled my copy of it in quiterss. Many of his articles are notOct 07 09:11
schestowitz>> relevant to us, but some are. I wonder if he ever received my message atOct 07 09:11
schestowitz>> all.Oct 07 09:11
schestowitz>>Oct 07 09:12
schestowitz>>Oct 07 09:12
schestowitz> I wonder about that.  I did see an e-mail for him in the RSS feedOct 07 09:12
schestowitz> itself, but I think you've already tried that one.Oct 07 09:12
schestowitzAnyway, it's too late to comment on his article regarding Techrights.Oct 07 09:12
schestowitz>> we need to convert these PDFs into text somehow, based on the many PDFsOct 07 09:48
schestowitz>> (almost a hundred I think)Oct 07 09:48
schestowitz>> https://www.justice.gov/atr/usdoj-antitrust-division-us-v-microsoft-corporation-browser-and-middleware-depositionOct 07 09:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.justice.gov | U.S. v. Microsoft Corporation [Browser and Middleware] Deposition TranscriptsOct 07 09:48
schestowitz>>Oct 07 09:48
schestowitz> Those are all bitmaps wrapped as PDF.  Converting them to text would beOct 07 09:48
schestowitz> a *major* undertaking lasting a few months FTE.  They would each have toOct 07 09:48
schestowitz> be OCR-ed and then proofread.  Would there be a way to FOIA theOct 07 09:48
schestowitz> original, text-only documents?Oct 07 09:48
schestowitzI managed to find some assorted text versions, but I want to improve their clarifyOct 07 09:48
schestowitz>>> See attached.Oct 07 10:00
schestowitz>>Oct 07 10:00
schestowitz>> Yours?!Oct 07 10:00
schestowitz>>Oct 07 10:00
schestowitz> Yep.  I am sad we /have to/ own one, but as long as we must we try toOct 07 10:01
schestowitz> reduce the load caused by unnecessary manufacturing.  As long as we stayOct 07 10:01
schestowitz> out of the city center and if I am the one driving then we get quiteOct 07 10:01
schestowitz> good mileage even compared to the much more recent models, exceptOct 07 10:01
schestowitz> hybrids of course.Oct 07 10:01
schestowitzWhat year (make)? Rianne's dad drives a 1993 :-)... lots or repair work done on itOct 07 10:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bichopilla/status/1313910235560579073Oct 07 20:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bichopilla: Filtro código de un viejo Windows, espero que lo usen en wine o cualquier otro proyecto libre y luego llamo a mis a… https://t.co/sNsG1OZqYdOct 07 20:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bichopilla: Filtro código de un viejo Windows, espero que lo usen en wine o cualquier otro proyecto libre y luego llamo a mis a… https://t.co/sNsG1OZqYdOct 07 20:10
schestowitz"Oct 07 20:10
schestowitzFiltro código de un viejo Windows, espero que lo usen en wine o cualquier otro proyecto libre y luego llamo a mis abogados.Oct 07 20:10
schestowitzUn plan sin fisuras típico de la historia y cultura empresarial de Microsoft.Oct 07 20:10
schestowitz"Oct 07 20:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RiderOfKarma/status/1313851915202158593Oct 07 20:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RiderOfKarma: And if you think the FBI stopped this COINTELPRO shit, I got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. https://t.co/55w7y6W5ShOct 07 20:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2014/01/16/cointelpro-changed-names/ )Oct 07 20:13
schestowitzhttps://www.facebook.com/openinventionnetwork/posts/3512712772112775Oct 07 20:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.facebook.com | Open Source Software (OSS) is creating a... - Open Invention Network | FacebookOct 07 20:44
schestowitz"v"Oct 07 20:44
schestowitz"Oct 07 20:44
schestowitzOpen Source Software (OSS) is creating a new global dynamic. Virtually every electronic touch point in our daily lives is now powered by Open Source technologies. Consider smart cars, ATMs, stock exchanges, cloud services, Android phones, social media, and many others.Oct 07 20:44
schestowitzAll Things Open — a multi-lingual, virtual technology conference focusing on what makes Open Source possible — will take place October 19-20 and the speaker lineup includes our CEO, Keith Bergelt.Oct 07 20:44
schestowitzHe will deliver “The Management of Patent Risk in Software - Parallels Between Open Source Technical and Patent Collaboration” at 10:30 EDT Monday October 19 to discuss OSS collaborative development through projects, and how projects ensure that technical development and collaboration occurs along with legal cooperation between developers and users.Oct 07 20:44
schestowitzIn addition, a number of our community members are sponsoring the event, including #Google, #IBM, #Salesforce, #RedHat, #SUSE and #Microsoft.Oct 07 20:44
schestowitzFor more information, visit: https://2020.allthingsopen.orgOct 07 20:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-2020.allthingsopen.org | All Things Open 2020Oct 07 20:44
schestowitz#AllThingsOpen #OpensourceMovement #OIN #DevOps #ATOOct 07 20:44
schestowitz"Oct 07 20:44
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