●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, April 08, 2022 ●● ● Apr 08 [00:15] *Guest33664 has quit (Connection closed) [00:21] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [00:21] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [00:22] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:22] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 08 [01:01] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ikj3egbzt55vk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:01] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [01:03] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@joseon-9jiopf.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [01:51] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:54] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@m5bv5yfbeuhi4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 08 [02:34] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:34] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Apr 08 [06:00] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [06:01] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@wur4yxm4zkucn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 08 [07:16] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Apr 08 [08:13] schestowitz-TR Why does techdirt help promote this lie that FB does encryption???? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/social-responsibility-organization-says-metas-embrace-of-encryption-is-important-for-human-rights [08:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Social Responsibility Organization Says Metas Embrace Of Encryption Is Important For Human Rights | Techdirt [08:14] Techrights-sec The myth of end-to-end encryption being possible in a web browser is problematic [08:14] Techrights-sec The public does not gain but surveillance capitalism does win from spreading [08:14] Techrights-sec the myth. A browser is basically a highly insecure VM running other people's [08:14] Techrights-sec unvetted, unauthenticated programs on your computer using your computer's [08:14] Techrights-sec resources. [08:14] schestowitz-TR the rest of the latest in techdirt wasn't so bad [08:15] schestowitz-TR there was one about "big tech" [08:15] schestowitz-TR but eff uses that term too [08:17] Techrights-sec I hope that the EFF and Techdirt both include M$ in that category. [08:17] Techrights-sec It's stupid that one even has to wonder about that. [08:17] Techrights-sec However, M$ has been spinning fools' heads rather successfully over the years. [08:17] schestowitz-TR no, no [08:17] schestowitz-TR keep hoping [08:17] schestowitz-TR that would make them MicrosoftHaters(R) [08:23] Techrights-sec People don't wake up one day and suddenly decide to "hate" M$. Many years of [08:23] Techrights-sec very hard work by a great many people have gone into M$ earning and maintaining [08:23] Techrights-sec that hate. [08:56] Techrights-sec For what it's worth the site did not have even the normal termporary lack [08:56] Techrights-sec of access accompanying the daily backups and cron jobs. Normally there [08:56] Techrights-sec are a few minutes of slowness or unavailability each morning UTC [08:58] schestowitz-TR TR? [08:58] schestowitz-TR I think that with this many cores we only have 1-2 mins of the site being not accessible [08:58] schestowitz-TR I checked backup sizes yesterday [08:58] schestowitz-TR this weekend I plan to do full backup to the new laptop [08:58] schestowitz-TR maybe also TR /root and TM [08:58] schestowitz-TR TM does not have many files in it ● Apr 08 [09:32] Techrights-sec I have a new drive for backups here. [09:32] Techrights-sec It is all set up and seems to be working. [09:32] Techrights-sec How did things settle out yesterday? [09:35] schestowitz-TR Thanks for asking [09:35] schestowitz-TR I as actually about to open up about that myse [09:35] schestowitz-TR mysef [09:35] schestowitz-TR *I have just cleared out the broken(by rianne, while washing) coffeee [09:35] schestowitz-TR making glass thingie [09:35] schestowitz-TR I put in a better one [09:35] schestowitz-TR and cleaned surfaces, arrange the hot beverages utntils a lot better, still [09:35] schestowitz-TR need to 'test' it later [09:35] schestowitz-TR but rianne gave me the predictably shit news [09:35] schestowitz-TR about a colleague getting excited by almalinus doing wsl [09:35] schestowitz-TR see? I work with some truly idiotic people [09:35] schestowitz-TR some fo not even use gnu/linux [09:35] schestowitz-TR and barely care [09:35] schestowitz-TR and this is what the company looks like [09:35] schestowitz-TR last night I devoted 1-2 hours to an unethical clients [09:35] schestowitz-TR which I was not ahppy to do [09:35] schestowitz-TR yes, and a colleague nwas like, oh! We'll share this in "social media" [09:35] schestowitz-TR Microsoft approves :-) [09:36] Techrights-sec :/ WSL undermines FOSS [09:36] Techrights-sec :( some people can be so stupid about M$ and not see it is harmful even to [09:36] Techrights-sec proprietary software [09:38] schestowitz-TR I just keep as distant as possible and mind my own business [09:38] schestowitz-TR costs me no time [09:38] schestowitz-TR but the "general pride in the occupation" aspect (like at EPO) [09:38] schestowitz-TR eroades [09:38] schestowitz-TR that's the sort of thing I confronted the boss about [09:38] schestowitz-TR finding work from home is hard enough [09:38] schestowitz-TR for two people even harder [09:38] schestowitz-TR for little actual work (NOC) very hard [09:39] Techrights-sec However, it sounds like the company is getting corrupted from within. [09:39] Techrights-sec Yes that is true, but it would not hurt to key an eye open for other [09:39] Techrights-sec opportunities. It's not something to waste a lot of effort on but just [09:39] Techrights-sec keep alert for options. [09:40] schestowitz-TR a few years ago I could envision taking a break, but with inflation going mad no amount of savings can suffice for a lifetime [09:42] Techrights-sec not any more,there are "investements" but they are often part of the probelm [09:42] Techrights-sec and make the world worse often locally too [09:45] schestowitz-TR yes, well... oil-rich nations had big investments in airlines [09:45] schestowitz-TR they hardly see returns for that now [09:45] Techrights-sec airlines have been scams for decades [09:46] schestowitz-TR either way, to sum up [09:46] schestowitz-TR (to self, and for you) [09:46] schestowitz-TR colleagues don't get freedom [09:46] schestowitz-TR some clients I strogly dislike (nothing to do with Windows/Microsoft) [09:46] schestowitz-TR proprietary tools [09:46] schestowitz-TR for now I dissent and lower hours worked [09:46] schestowitz-TR which is 1) a way to maintain a lack of guilt [09:46] schestowitz-TR 2) way to increase hourly salary (lower the hours) [09:47] Techrights-sec ack ● Apr 08 [10:00] schestowitz-TR ok, this seaset is lovely [10:00] schestowitz-TR *teaset [10:00] schestowitz-TR to be clear, all the work I did last night was gnu/linux [10:00] schestowitz-TR but the client's business I consider to be unethical [10:00] schestowitz-TR so my skills contribute to something which is overall [10:00] schestowitz-TR not good to society [10:00] schestowitz-TR the FSF has had VASTLY worse patrons [10:00] schestowitz-TR sspeaking of which, a colleague used the company's "social" media [10:00] schestowitz-TR account to link to some libel about RMS [10:00] schestowitz-TR we used to have Debian Developes as staff [10:00] schestowitz-TR Our Web site literally had gnu logos in it [10:00] schestowitz-TR as part of the design [10:03] Techrights-sec +1 teaset [10:03] Techrights-sec -1 libel against RMS [10:04] schestowitz-TR is it worth covering fedora phasing out BIOS support? wante dto cover [10:04] schestowitz-TR this and another topic (then got assignment at work) but it's [10:04] schestowitz-TR one of those topics where in 60 seconds you can run out of things to say [10:04] schestowitz-TR IBM bad, UEFI fake advacncement, and then there was some other [10:04] schestowitz-TR obnoxious stuff in "the news", but I didn't take note of it [10:04] schestowitz-TR so it could not be THAT important [10:04] schestowitz-TR freebsd will have a final mrelease soon, this month... [10:04] Techrights-sec FreeBSD runs on the RPi and OpenBSD does too, at least to a certain extent [10:06] schestowitz-TR phoronix only continues to reaffirm what we wrote this past winter [10:06] schestowitz-TR but I don't want to persist in covering that [10:06] schestowitz-TR as it would contribute tioo the concept of obsession or [10:06] schestowitz-TR attacking each othger [10:06] schestowitz-TR for this reason I'd not do a piece calling out fossforce either [10:06] schestowitz-TR IRC is enough [10:07] Techrights-sec best to give phoronix' misdeeds coverage a pause [10:09] schestowitz-TR There is something I love about gemini [10:09] schestowitz-TR even if the "quality" is sometimes low [10:09] schestowitz-TR but the other day I saw "influencer" there [10:09] schestowitz-TR should I do a video about it? [10:10] schestowitz-TR that would be off-putting [10:10] schestowitz-TR but still a cautionary note [10:10] schestowitz-TR (it's line when a company sends something to 'review') [10:11] Techrights-sec not sure. "influencer" is a euphemism for "shill" [10:15] schestowitz-TR DT spams also [10:15] schestowitz-TR fake reviews [10:15] schestowitz-TR not sure if that's what you're about to say [10:16] Techrights-sec Derek Taylor closed his Gemini capsule, he could write a perl or python [10:16] Techrights-sec scraper for that. [10:16] Techrights-sec Yes, but I think on average he's mostly a positive force. And despite [10:16] Techrights-sec the most recent video so is Brodie Robertson. I disgree with most of the [10:16] Techrights-sec assessment he made but one point he mentioned almost as an aside is actually [10:16] Techrights-sec very important: M$ can play the attrition game and force those locked into [10:16] Techrights-sec windoze to suck it up and deploy vista11 even though it would be more effort [10:16] Techrights-sec than migrating away. [10:16] Techrights-sec He only mentioned the attrition part, but the rest needs to be emphasized [10:16] Techrights-sec The EU considers exit costs part of the TCO [10:18] schestowitz-TR OK< EPO quiet so far today [10:18] schestowitz-TR I look behind the curtains a bit [10:18] schestowitz-TR BTW, I dumped Gulag Alerts [10:18] schestowitz-TR I mentioned this only ina video [10:18] schestowitz-TR s/n ratio there too became awful [10:18] schestowitz-TR I think I will cover gemini something [10:18] schestowitz-TR the "Linux" side had no compelling enough topics for us to cover, so instead I focused on Links, Links, Links [10:18] Techrights-sec ack [10:20] schestowitz-TR not sure you agree, but the risk of spam creeping into gemini as it grows (in the webspam sense) [10:20] schestowitz-TR is an underreported risk [10:20] schestowitz-TR The www, based on my rss feeds, is a lost cause esp. once I open up to something that's not a personal blog [10:20] schestowitz-TR even opensource.com is mostly ICBM marketin cruft [10:21] Techrights-sec It's definitely a potential problem. [10:21] Techrights-sec yes spam is there too [10:22] schestowitz-TR it is difficult to use the term spam there [10:22] schestowitz-TR it's like calling everyone "nazi" [10:22] schestowitz-TR which devalues thej word [10:22] schestowitz-TR opensource.com is a misnamed IBMHat site [10:22] schestowitz-TR and could be named differently [10:25] Techrights-sec unnecessary voluminous marketing? [10:25] Techrights-sec no, just as a placeholder for marketeering [10:25] schestowitz-TR they keep around and recently rennovated the site not as a service to "community" [10:26] schestowitz-TR I thiuk we covered the topic last year in articles and videos [10:26] schestowitz-TR I will start OTA shortly, re gemini [10:28] Techrights-sec ack ● Apr 08 [11:08] schestowitz-TR ok, i covered geminia [11:08] schestowitz-TR and veered off to fossforce, phoronix ewtc. [11:08] schestowitz-TR wioth their paid-for BS [11:08] schestowitz-TR akllong the way [11:08] Techrights-sec ack [11:10] schestowitz-TR IO have just addded a very incomplete draft [11:10] schestowitz-TR let me know whgat points o add [11:10] schestowitz-TR I plan to add more paras later [11:10] schestowitz-TR I want to record another video while the other laptop is processing [11:10] Techrights-sec ack [11:14] Techrights-sec s/go at it/go at corrupting it/ [11:14] Techrights-sec or "go at infiltrating and coopting it" [11:14] Techrights-sec s/is what/is that/ [11:14] Techrights-sec Perhaps emphasis that due to the text-only nature of Gemini it is of necessity [11:14] Techrights-sec focused on content and leaves the insecure or obstructive fluff aside [11:14] schestowitz-TR thanks, correcting ans ddding [11:14] schestowitz-TR OTA [11:14] schestowitz-TR *and adding [11:34] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [11:34] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:58] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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