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| Techrights-sec | httpd on TM locked up, restarted the service | Jun 08 07:37 |
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| schestowitz-TR | gm, overslept a lot by accident | Jun 08 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | is irc post on the way? | Jun 08 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm still catching up with many links | Jun 08 09:28 |
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| Techrights-sec | a while back kaniini mentioned "soon" | Jun 08 10:27 |
| Techrights-sec | Is he still ok? | Jun 08 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | somewhere in canada now, like a nomad | Jun 08 10:28 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Jun 08 10:34 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Nordic Ideal ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/world/finland-sweden-nato/ | Source: The Nation | Jun 08 11:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | The End of the Nordic Ideal | The Nation | Jun 08 11:04 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "The Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department has long contended it has no gang problem." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/07/sheriff-who-claimed-he-would-clean-up-the-los-angeles-sheriffs-department-gang-problem-has-instead-allowed-it-to-thrive/ | Source: Techdirt | Jun 08 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Sheriff Who Claimed He Would Clean Up The Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department Gang Problem Has Instead Allowed It To Thrive | Techdirt | Jun 08 11:07 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I think "chaos theory" is sometimes used in a non-technical context too | Jun 08 11:07 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 11:16 |
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| schestowitz-TR | not exactly on-topic, I know, but over the years I've heard that a society happy and contented enough | Jun 08 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | would be be so passive and still look to improve | Jun 08 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you worsen things, they tackle the worst aspects first | Jun 08 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | so things like "royal" family are not the top priority | Jun 08 11:17 |
| Techrights-sec | perhaps, that's a common theme in some science fictio genres | Jun 08 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | a motif is, what are they looking to distract from? | Jun 08 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | using selective outrage? | Jun 08 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | then you focus not on what they tell you but on what you insist is more importanyt | Jun 08 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | not Apple vs Microsoft | Jun 08 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | but Freedom versus DRM, back doors etc. | Jun 08 11:19 |
| Techrights-sec | not just distract from with small distractions but creation of | Jun 08 11:20 |
| Techrights-sec | large intractable crises to prevent addressing class and power | Jun 08 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | those can be connected | Jun 08 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you connect them | Jun 08 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and attribute the crises to those with incentive to create them | Jun 08 11:21 |
| Techrights-sec | yes and the crises are increasingly international in nature | Jun 08 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | the media lost interest in "war on terror" | Jun 08 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | from what I can gather, the bloodbaths continue | Jun 08 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | when russia invaded georgia,iirc not long after gw had invaded iraq, the outrage was minimal | Jun 08 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | prior to war on terror there was "cold war" | Jun 08 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | then ussr became "not so risky" | Jun 08 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "As ordinary workers across the United States watched inflation eat away at modest wage gains in 2021" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/07/report-warns-taxpayer-money-fueling-pandemic-greed-grab-us-ceos | Source: Common Dreams | Jun 08 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Report Warns Taxpayer Money Is Fueling 'Pandemic Greed Grab' by US CEOs | Jun 08 11:28 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | makes it a tad harder to rebel against the status quo ("the system") | Jun 08 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but one can manage | Jun 08 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, got some compliments on our journalism this morning | Jun 08 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | soon 34,000 blog posts | Jun 08 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | tuxmachines 18 this friday | Jun 08 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | tomorrow a meeting that likely decided, tentatively, what happens next | Jun 08 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | working 2 nights in a row, than 5 days off, would be a massive improvement | Jun 08 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | we've managed to skirt most price increases using "life hacks" | Jun 08 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | riannr might start growing mushrooms soon, or try to... apparently leftover coffee is good for that so she has been collecting | Jun 08 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | it | Jun 08 11:32 |
| Techrights-sec | various grains are better, there are kits to work from but also an enormous | Jun 08 11:33 |
| Techrights-sec | wealth of informtion about how to culture and grow various species. If you have | Jun 08 11:33 |
| Techrights-sec | space, you can probably do it. I recall reading about it at the time when | Jun 08 11:33 |
| Techrights-sec | people figured out how to farm shiitake | Jun 08 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | as prices increase, incentive to at least try that will grow | Jun 08 11:33 |
| Techrights-sec | It might be an interesting hobby | Jun 08 11:39 |
| Techrights-sec | The trick is being OCD about keeping all parts of the process sterile | Jun 08 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne learns this from youtube channels these days | Jun 08 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | (while youtube lasts...) | Jun 08 11:40 |
| Techrights-sec | :/ not necessarily an authoritative source, it would depend very highly on | Jun 08 11:40 |
| Techrights-sec | who is actually posting and what their background is | Jun 08 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | change of topic: | Jun 08 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still check almost every day if raspios (d11) has updares for linux-image or raspberrypi-kernel | Jun 08 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | because I choose to assume something went wrong with the last one, which should be 5.15.x | Jun 08 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and so it falls back onto 5.10.x | Jun 08 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is not fully compatible with some of the other "latest" packages | Jun 08 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's an untested theory | Jun 08 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I did see kernel-related warnings when last booting with a "head" attached | Jun 08 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and moreover the USB clone works OK | Jun 08 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've made backups, but to other machines and drive, not the full clonbe | Jun 08 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | because I don't consider anything outside /home to be in a fine state ATM | Jun 08 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the future I will be even more hesitant to run full system updates | Jun 08 11:46 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 11:46 |
| Techrights-sec | it's very rare that the ydo | Jun 08 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I do not have a spare machine to test updates on | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and at the moment rianne's pi is a dedicated work machine or vpn workhorse | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't want to tinker with it | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | it makes life easier | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | bear in mind the lack of consolidation means that during third we have THREE phones | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | landline, ip phone, gulag... | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's "progress" for you | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | when you put idiots in decision-making positions | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have not checked price and availability of raspi4, but will do so briefly now | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | curious due to "supply" issues | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | (my dad thinking china is staging or faking it... to cause issue... | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I asked for evidence... he cannot provide any) | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz | https://shop.pimoroni.com/collections/raspberry-pi | Jun 08 11:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-shop.pimoroni.com | Raspberry Pi Boards, Kits, HATs, and Accessories - Next Day Delivery - Pimoroni | Jun 08 11:55 | |
| schestowitz | notice the prices | Jun 08 11:55 |
| schestowitz | I think they use bundles to conceal the changes | Jun 08 11:55 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | the way I am reading this (some have 1GB of RAM), the prices may or may not have doubled | Jun 08 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | iot's a good thing we stocked up on needed hardware and spare before this BS period | Jun 08 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | where you want a simple set of speakers and they offer you one speaker for like 100 pounds | Jun 08 11:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 12:00 |
| Techrights-sec | pretty much everything containing an actuall RPi is out of stock, just like | Jun 08 12:00 |
| Techrights-sec | everywhere else | Jun 08 12:00 |
| Techrights-sec | Ukraine products 70% of the world's neon and that is currently essential for | Jun 08 12:00 |
| Techrights-sec | the manufacture of chips | Jun 08 12:00 |
| Techrights-sec | :/ | Jun 08 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, it was you who passed the link this morning about improvising the manufacturing | Jun 08 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I LOLed at the part about them shipping product with chips missing, promising to add them later | Jun 08 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mean, WTF??? How would that actually work? They send someone to your home to "upgrade" with a screwdriver? | Jun 08 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I joked about this with rianne | Jun 08 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I actually find the whole think amusing rather than sadening | Jun 08 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | but maybe because atm it feels like misfrotune of others | Jun 08 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. people who buy "smart" cars | Jun 08 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | in reality, rich people will find a way around the shortages | Jun 08 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and be a "priority clientele" | Jun 08 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | while prices soar, hurting not them but others | Jun 08 12:04 |
| Techrights-sec | the global supply chain has been maneuvered into a position where there | Jun 08 12:06 |
| Techrights-sec | are multiple single-point-of-failure junctions and now that several are failing | Jun 08 12:06 |
| Techrights-sec | it brings down all computer hardware manufacturing | Jun 08 12:06 |
| Techrights-sec | it was just a matter of time given the direction things had been heading | Jun 08 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still need more time to wrap my head around what that means | Jun 08 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. second-hand/"preowned" markets | Jun 08 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | from an environmental POV, this has potential for good | Jun 08 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | we've long hoped air travel would RETURN to being an expensive | Jun 08 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | luxury | Jun 08 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is really what it ALL ALONG should have been | Jun 08 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | no more treturn flights for some weekend conference of beach trip | Jun 08 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need a rebellion against work communting, too | Jun 08 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, rianne purchased the pi just before the ukraine war and chinese lockdowns | Jun 08 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | it did not cost much more than the prior price | Jun 08 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the stocks were replenished just days after she had left her email | Jun 08 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I expected, activelow seems to have just returned, but with a new nickname | Jun 08 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | after causing a channel to go bad by de-registering | Jun 08 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | like matey, he does not wish to be seen as a returnee | Jun 08 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | brandon lozza recently came back too, after many years | Jun 08 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | people come and go, but as long as they're alive and we too are online they | Jun 08 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | can return at any moment | Jun 08 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | many people from usenet also suddenly appeaer | Jun 08 12:15 |
| Techrights-sec | that kind of stability is an asset | Jun 08 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think olf it as reward for consistency | Jun 08 12:17 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | Jun 08 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow has just ragequit again | Jun 08 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | for us not being as radical | Jun 08 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I worry he's getting more extreme over time | Jun 08 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's hard to get him out of it | Jun 08 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | isolated and misinformed | Jun 08 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know his real name, I saw it in his code | Jun 08 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | days ago conde nast, after 5+ yearsd, did a "report" on vault7 leaker | Jun 08 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was ad hominem | Jun 08 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | schneier linked to it | Jun 08 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | which does not imply it is good | Jun 08 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | he linked to a lot of conde nast rubbish these days | Jun 08 13:41 |
| Techrights-sec | ok but I have no backround in deradicalization and can only suggest to stand | Jun 08 13:41 |
| Techrights-sec | firm against such bullshit; a problem is that such behavior is often used | Jun 08 13:41 |
| Techrights-sec | as an excuse to shoehorn CoCs and cenorship | Jun 08 13:41 |
| Techrights-sec | Schneier seemed to retire in most ways shortly after he processed the Snowden | Jun 08 13:41 |
| Techrights-sec | documents. | Jun 08 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | did bruce "process" these documents? | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I watch that closely at the time | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | Schnier may have linked to articles | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | in schneier.org | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I did not see him directly involv ed | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | ioerror was def. involved | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | mflee | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | greenwalf | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | before omidyar bought greenwald and his associates | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | then shut them all down | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on some contractual basis | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I understand it | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they wrote in protest | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that was the end of that | Jun 08 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they vanished along with the material | Jun 08 13:44 |
| Techrights-sec | IIRC | Jun 08 13:44 |
| Techrights-sec | IIRC he had copies | Jun 08 13:44 |
| Techrights-sec | after the big news | Jun 08 13:44 |
| Techrights-sec | omidyar bought him to get the papers and 1) put them on ice and 2) act as a | Jun 08 13:44 |
| Techrights-sec | honeypot for other whistleblowers | Jun 08 13:44 |
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| schestowitz-TR | Ok, yes, this makes sense | Jun 08 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and notice how few WBers come out now with material | Jun 08 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | the other day I think one of the drone strikes WBers was in IRC | Jun 08 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I am not sure | Jun 08 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | they confided in me | Jun 08 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but there is nothing to write about the subject anymore | Jun 08 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | because the media stopped particpating | Jun 08 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if the drones just stopped existing or turned into kites | Jun 08 13:47 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is particularly upsetting to me | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2012ish-1015 I wrote heavily about drone strikes | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's still in Daily Links | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | other topics of focus in 2011 onwards were NSA mass surveillance | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | prior to snoweden | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | wikileaks was intreumental there | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | for a number of reasons | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2015 I decided to stop, I probably still have that piece of paper | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I discussed with rianne about how to shift focus | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | the drone strikes thing reached an impasse | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | as had happened to debates about sw patents | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | apropos, crystalmath said in irc we don't write much about freesw | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I showed him fsf had also stopped | Jun 08 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he agrees | Jun 08 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | freesw as a topic is being cast aside | Jun 08 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it's "hey hi" and "web3" and "somethingverse" and all soerts of totally | Jun 08 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | ludicrous stuff | Jun 08 13:52 |
| Techrights-sec | yes I recall | Jun 08 13:52 |
| Techrights-sec | if anyone is supposed to talk up Software Freedom it should be the FSF | Jun 08 13:52 |
| Techrights-sec | I've also noticed their neglect of responsiblity there | Jun 08 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | when LF could move in for the kill against Windows (desktop/laptop) it instead sold out | Jun 08 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | same thing happened to Novell | Jun 08 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | one week before the Microsoft deal they got a major OEM to BUNDLE PC with SLED 10 | Jun 08 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I linked to that in irc a few days ago | Jun 08 13:53 |
| Techrights-sec | yes they were close; same for Canonical, there were over a half dozen golden | Jun 08 13:54 |
| Techrights-sec | opportunities to make big sales or at least promote the heck out of their | Jun 08 13:54 |
| Techrights-sec | products and services but they let it drop *each* and every time | Jun 08 13:54 |
| Techrights-sec | I attributed that to the moles from M$ which Canonical knowingly brought in | Jun 08 13:54 |
| Techrights-sec | It has been acting like an anti-Linux Foundation for a long while now | Jun 08 13:58 |
| Techrights-sec | and appears to have been infiltrated and fully subverted | Jun 08 13:58 |
| Techrights-sec | I don't suppose they still have a charter online for comparison between their | Jun 08 13:58 |
| Techrights-sec | stated goals and their current misdeeds? | Jun 08 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I actually covered this numerous times | Jun 08 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | e.g. comparing their mention of "community" in the site over the years, using the wayback machine | Jun 08 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | more recently I did another kind of comparison | Jun 08 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | do yolu wwant the url/s? | Jun 08 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would not take long to retreieve, hang on... | Jun 08 14:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, I sense that when such orgs turn on the "politics mode" it's a defence staretgy | Jun 08 14:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | the PR "consultants" tell them it can associate legit critics with "bigots" | Jun 08 14:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I am SOOOO tol;erant, WHY are you attacking me? [sob]" | Jun 08 14:01 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Jun 08 14:01 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/08/03/no-more-community-in-lf/ | Jun 08 14:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | How the Linux Foundation Devolved From Community-Centric to Microsoft (in GitHub) Projects | Techrights | Jun 08 14:02 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/lf-openwashing-services/ | Jun 08 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux Foundation: From Linux to Openwashing Services | Techrights | Jun 08 14:03 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.linuxfoundation.org/bylaws/ | Jun 08 14:11 |
| Techrights-sec | changed back in 2016 or so | Jun 08 14:11 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.information-age.com/linux-foundation-causes-uproar-quietly-removing-community-representation-its-board-123460821/ | Jun 08 14:11 |
| Techrights-sec | interesting possibility | Jun 08 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxfoundation.org | Bylaws - Linux Foundation | Jun 08 14:11 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.information-age.com | Linux Foundation causes uproar by quietly removing community representation from its board - Information Age | Jun 08 14:11 | |
| schestowitz-TR | how much time apart from Microsoft sellout? | Jun 08 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | Maybe there was a request associated with that move | Jun 08 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it was fulfilled? | Jun 08 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | around that time OSI was also getting like 90%+ corporate funded | Jun 08 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it is like 97%, based on 2020 filing, probably higher by now | Jun 08 14:12 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/05/09/microsoft-takes-control-lf/ | Jun 08 14:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Evolution at Linux Foundation: Microsoft Attacks, Microsoft ‘Joins’, Microsoft Takes Control | Techrights | Jun 08 14:12 | |
| schestowitz | see the image | Jun 08 14:12 |
| schestowitz | pay close attention | Jun 08 14:12 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | Jun 08 14:15 |
| Techrights-sec | I see. (normally I ignore the images) | Jun 08 14:17 |
| Techrights-sec | The M$ mole also is allowed to shill there too | Jun 08 14:17 |
| Techrights-sec | that's kind of old and hard to find but there was a lot of talk about | Jun 08 14:17 |
| Techrights-sec | the removal of the community seats as a move to preemptively block Sandler | Jun 08 14:17 |
| Techrights-sec | and other pro-GPL people from even having a chance at winning a seat. | Jun 08 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | can you research for any concrete links between the microsoft "loves" Linnux (Foundation) move | Jun 08 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the removal of ksandler among other moved? | Jun 08 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | *moves | Jun 08 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | sheela zemlin's employment history does not coincide with that year in particular (I have checked already; years ago) | Jun 08 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | spouses are not off-limit, ask Tim Bray | Jun 08 14:17 |
| Techrights-sec | Tim Bray has been toeing the line in recent years though, it seems his | Jun 08 14:19 |
| Techrights-sec | memory is not long in that regard or that they finally did find a way to | Jun 08 14:19 |
| Techrights-sec | get to him | Jun 08 14:19 |
| Techrights-sec | It'd probably take 30 minutes of searching to find his old blog post about | Jun 08 14:19 |
| Techrights-sec | how M$ went after first him and then his wife's company | Jun 08 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can get that in 20 seconds or less | Jun 08 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | "life is complicated" was the title and we have a wiki page for that attack pattern | Jun 08 14:19 |
| Techrights-sec | I just tried and even a fairly narrow search turned up nothing not even | Jun 08 14:24 |
| Techrights-sec | his blog | Jun 08 14:24 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_Retribution_against_individuals_and_organisations | Jun 08 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Retribution against individuals and organisations - Techrights | Jun 08 14:24 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2007/01/24/Mixup | Jun 08 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Missing content type. Ignoring. | Jun 08 14:24 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would be INVALUABLE if we could prove | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | that there ere further strings attacked to MS-LF | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | or... if someone sent us a tip | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | like we got many re shithub | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | one single source can do infinite damage | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | like ed snowden | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | before omidyar shat on his "stash" | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | (snowden did not keep copies himself, it was not safe) | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | he even handed over his own laptop | Jun 08 14:34 |
| Techrights-sec | no it was not safe for him to keep anything | Jun 08 14:34 |
| Techrights-sec | probably quite a bit | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | we do not knowhow much data was on Assange's laptop and other electronic devices | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | when those were seized b surposed and handed over to the US | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | probably lots of stuff in there | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | pro tip: if they take away your shaving kit, act fast :/ | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | they might be preparing you for "the role" | Jun 08 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | typecasting | Jun 08 14:35 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | Jun 08 14:36 |
| Techrights-sec | and they intentionally roughed him up on the way out so that he'd struggle and | Jun 08 14:36 |
| Techrights-sec | protest | Jun 08 14:36 |
| Techrights-sec | visibly for the waiting cameras | Jun 08 14:36 |
| Techrights-sec | perhaps not dissimilar to the military-like raid on Kim Dotcom and the camera | Jun 08 14:36 |
| Techrights-sec | crews which were given a headsup | Jun 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | Kim (on record): "hey had a knee to my neck" (or chin) | Jun 08 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | *they | Jun 08 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | life-threatening position | Jun 08 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was before Chauvin | Jun 08 14:38 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KmIPVrkN1hA | Jun 08 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Kim Dotcom Police Raid Video Released - Invidious | Jun 08 14:41 | |
| schestowitz-TR | a good strategy is not just to record before entry | Jun 08 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but have a femalke as alibo/eyewitness | Jun 08 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | they get a bad "press" for roughening up women | Jun 08 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and so they are less likely to do some things | Jun 08 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but more importantly, you need evidence that you were obedient and polite | Jun 08 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | when it is therir word against yours | Jun 08 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KmIPVrkN1hA | Jun 08 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | towards the end of the video Kim explained what FBI did simultaneously | Jun 08 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the background | Jun 08 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | It would take longer to get the parts about them physically assaulting him | Jun 08 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik, there was either no footage or only the state shields footage of that | Jun 08 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was an "OTR" thing | Jun 08 14:43 |
| Techrights-sec | * or chins :/ | Jun 08 14:44 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 14:44 |
| Techrights-sec | raids like that are not about solving a problem but about show of force and | Jun 08 14:47 |
| Techrights-sec | having a large chance that some fatal "mistake" might happen with the handling | Jun 08 14:47 |
| Techrights-sec | of the victim / target | Jun 08 14:47 |
| schestowitz | last 5 seconds of https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mmObwguVmEI | Jun 08 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Kim Dotcom - The RAID - Invidious | Jun 08 14:47 | |
| Techrights-sec | and as mentioned he has not done anything different AFAIK from the other | Jun 08 14:48 |
| Techrights-sec | "cloud" services | Jun 08 14:48 |
| Techrights-sec | the gate was unlocked yet they jumped over it | Jun 08 14:54 |
| Techrights-sec | if only they could raid microsofters that way and be rid of the cybersecurity | Jun 08 14:54 |
| Techrights-sec | disaster in a mattetr of hours | Jun 08 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | you and I know how "the system" works and why | Jun 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I try my best to not challenge the limits too much | Jun 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I can carry on another 20 years | Jun 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'doping' = credibility loss for short-term boost | Jun 08 14:56 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | Jun 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | or doing questionable things that can get you in trouble with some laws | Jun 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | people will try to do both regardless | Jun 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | SLAPP | Jun 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | ad hominem | Jun 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that does not mean you should make it easier for them | Jun 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | roughening people up, with physical force or words (provocation, threats) | Jun 08 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | is one way to lower their rational instincts | Jun 08 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and invoke inpulsive actions | Jun 08 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can think of several people this was done to | Jun 08 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and helped discredit them | Jun 08 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ad hominem conde nast piece that bruce schneier linked to I did not need to read past the summary | Jun 08 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | the summar made it clear it was a distraction and typical motivation questioning | Jun 08 14:58 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 14:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | I used to treat Bruce with respect | Jun 08 14:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it's scepticism | Jun 08 14:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | if noit "ol' fart" cycnicism | Jun 08 14:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | same as for SJVN | Jun 08 14:59 |
| Techrights-sec | Bruce deflated rather suddenly but had so much respect from the community that | Jun 08 15:00 |
| Techrights-sec | it took a long time for people to accept that he is gone in practice | Jun 08 15:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe some time soon he'll get "bored" and pull a "guido de icaza" | Jun 08 15:01 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm still wondering what they did to Durusau over ODF and open standards | Jun 08 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | he is in twitter | Jun 08 15:01 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/channel/UCXj2fUcGQk4xbjp8qRudQyA | Jun 08 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Patrick Durusau - Invidious | Jun 08 15:03 | |
| schestowitz-TR | here too, recent | Jun 08 15:03 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/06/22/durusau-and-coekaerts/ | Jun 08 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Apparently Did a Patrick Durusau on Wim Coekaerts to Broaden Its Control Over GNU/Linux | Techrights | Jun 08 15:04 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft is the worst | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I saw other companies, to a lesser degree, doing the same to CS labs | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | Gulag, Intel.. | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | their goal is not to advance teaching or research | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | their money is not a "support" | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry, it is | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not for the schools but to themselves | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is an issue politicians won't tackle | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | because like those schools they're owned by corporatism | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they too get "donations" | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | like Microbell Larabel | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are "slaves" | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | of the "masters" | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | which play political PR games | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and say those words are obscene | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | as they might cause an emotional reaction | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | apropos, see the latest post from norbert prenning | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw tghat video uyears ago | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | interesting he would bring it up now all of a sudden | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know he has spoken to daniel p lately | Jun 08 15:20 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 15:20 |
| Techrights-sec | rough video, but not far off | Jun 08 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe the video is a bit ahead of its time | Jun 08 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was very popular a couple of years ago | Jun 08 15:21 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I was about to create symlinks for ~gemini so that the Daily IRC Logs do not have a broken URI/L in "Local copy" and "Enter the | Jun 08 15:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | IRC channels now" | Jun 08 15:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the former, not the latter, is a tricker one | Jun 08 15:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | *trickier | Jun 08 15:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I reckon cobbling together something in perl for this particular post "type" would be simpler | Jun 08 15:29 |
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| Techrights-sec | probably easier in perl | Jun 08 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "The word “chaos” is understood as meaning “disorder” and “confusion,” and when it flourishes, it becomes increasingly difficult" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/07/chaos-or-community-2/ | Source: Counter Punch | Jun 08 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Chaos or Community - CounterPunch.org | Jun 08 15:36 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | just chedked what a fraud scamnil became | Jun 08 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but unwilling to do any more screenshots, as it would give him more limelight than he deserves | Jun 08 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he's scamming companies | Jun 08 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they deserve to know | Jun 08 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF is complicity in it | Jun 08 15:39 |
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| Techrights-sec | checking | Jun 08 15:46 |
| Techrights-sec | currently the following is generated: | Jun 08 15:46 |
| Techrights-sec | => /irc-channel/ Enter the IRC channels now | Jun 08 15:46 |
| Techrights-sec | what should be there instead? | Jun 08 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think /about | Jun 08 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | where it has details about accessing IRC | Jun 08 15:47 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Not good/disturbing trend here: courier does not knock on door, instead putting through the door a slip that | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | says the parcel is INSIDE THE BIN! You can easily have it thrown away into a landfill. Lazy approach of nihilists, pushed throu | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | gh with "cost-cutting" approaches... | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Dear UK couriers, the BIN is NOT a mail box. It's not secure and periodically it gets emptied into garbage tr | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | ucks. People pay shipping fees for a service, not for you to dump objects of value into BINS. Worse yet, this practice will enc | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | ourage petty thieves to go through your trash, making a mess in pursuit of treasures. This is the new "key under the doormat" l | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | unacy. | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | all those f*ers | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | had to do was knock on the f*ing door | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | both rianne and I had our headphones off for this | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I only knew they came because I heard the mouth of the door opening for the slip | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | "technological advancement" = bezos et al playing treeasure hunt with things you paid for | Jun 08 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Ramifications of Greed: The Bin is Not a Postbox and Mail Should Never be Delivered Into People’s Trashcans https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/08/bins-are-not-mailboxes/ | Jun 08 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Ramifications of Greed: The Bin is Not a Postbox and Mail Should Never be Delivered Into People’s Trashcans | Jun 08 16:44 | |
| Techrights-sec | technically they are discarding the package they were supposed to have delivered | Jun 08 17:23 |
| Techrights-sec | and falsely claimed to have delivered: committing fraud | Jun 08 17:23 |
| Techrights-sec | and or facilitating theft | Jun 08 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | ack | Jun 08 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | ota | Jun 08 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | ota | Jun 08 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was about llf | Jun 08 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | typing it up now | Jun 08 17:40 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 17:49 |
| Techrights-sec | did you file a business complaint against the delivery company for | Jun 08 17:49 |
| Techrights-sec | discarding your package while lying about having delivered it? | Jun 08 17:49 |
| Techrights-sec | ^business complaint with the government | Jun 08 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | royal mail is the gov. | Jun 08 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would go nowehere | Jun 08 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | they would make up "convincing" excuses | Jun 08 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like filing a coc complaints about the coc committee | Jun 08 17:50 |
| Techrights-sec | is there an ombudsman in a different branch that would be covering that topic? | Jun 08 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | ombudsman is our former client | Jun 08 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it does not yield much results | Jun 08 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's slow, too | Jun 08 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec | the point is to get the fraud registered and monitored not necessaril instant | Jun 08 17:52 |
| Techrights-sec | satisfaction or justice | Jun 08 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | i'd rather speak of the issue and let others chanse this | Jun 08 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I spent a long time last year complaining about a "medical" "services" company | Jun 08 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | it got results, but took a lot of energy | Jun 08 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | brb typing re lf | Jun 08 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | will have draft soon, then move on to the next video | Jun 08 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | riannt took charge of tm | Jun 08 17:53 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | i have no wine anymore, but we have vodka in case tomorrow I free up time by sem--retiring | Jun 08 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | log out from root before tippling | Jun 08 17:54 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 08 18:49 |
| Techrights-sec | 1980s? | Jun 08 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Jun 08 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | wow, I found so many typos that it is embarassing | Jun 08 18:49 |
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| schestowitz-TR | ota new epo stuff | Jun 08 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | ota | Jun 08 18:54 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> GPL is not a "burden", this is about people trying to make Perl more proprietary-friendly http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/06/reconsidering-the-licensing-of-perl-code.ht<techrights-news> GPL is not a "burden", this is about people trying to make Perl more proprietary-friendly http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/06/reconsidering-the-licensing-of-perl-code.htmlml | Jun 08 21:57 |
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