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Techrights-sec | topic idea for later: https://bannedbooksweek.org/ | Sep 08 08:43 |
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schestowitz-TR2 | thanks | Sep 08 08:45 |
schestowitz-TR2 | today is exam day | Sep 08 08:45 |
schestowitz-TR2 | for the second time in a week an interruption caused me to forget something I was about to do | Sep 08 08:45 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I wrote about it in my personal blog, at long last | Sep 08 08:45 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I think this happens to everyone | Sep 08 08:45 |
Techrights-sec | Good luck to Rianne on the exams | Sep 08 09:00 |
Techrights-sec | The animated GIFs are probably processed by ImageMagick on a single core. | Sep 08 09:00 |
Techrights-sec | It basically ends up being video processing using a tool not designed for such. | Sep 08 09:00 |
Techrights-sec | In principle it is likely a very parallelizable task but not really the | Sep 08 09:00 |
Techrights-sec | main purpose of ImageMagick and I myself don't have the skill to write a | Sep 08 09:00 |
Techrights-sec | patch for them. | Sep 08 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it's OK, don't bother changing it | Sep 08 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR2 | at the end it did finish | Sep 08 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it's actually part of the reason I got distracted and forgot something | Sep 08 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR2 | about 4 things going on all at once | Sep 08 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR2 | GIFs have inter-frame compression fo sorts, so doing frames across cores might be tricky and splitting the same frame across CPUs the same | Sep 08 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR2 | or across cores | Sep 08 09:00 |
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Techrights-sec | I thought it was MPEG and the other video formats which had inter-frame | Sep 08 10:13 |
Techrights-sec | compression and that GIF merely moved through a stack of images. But then | Sep 08 10:13 |
Techrights-sec | I have no detailed knowledge of the formats. | Sep 08 10:13 |
schestowitz-TR2 | mr gif dies months ago | Sep 08 10:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I know from experience that a gif with many similar frames is a lot smaller | Sep 08 10:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | never mind pallette size | Sep 08 10:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and so I assume there's some in-file compression | Sep 08 10:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | maybe I'm wrong and it's a stack of images compressed AT THE END | Sep 08 10:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but judging by how it is handled on the Web | Sep 08 10:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | where it starts showing frames before the whole is ready | Sep 08 10:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | that cannot be the case | Sep 08 10:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | maybe some ad hoc dynamic compression of some sort | Sep 08 10:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | optical flow maybe | Sep 08 10:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but I think animated gifs predate that | Sep 08 10:15 |
Techrights-sec | Ok, that makes sense. | Sep 08 10:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | ot: experimented with some 'extra' sleep the past fortnight | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | did not notice positive effects | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | might go back to 6 a day, split across 2 or 3 | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | starting tonight | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | this week I did experience limited memroy capacity and motivation was not high | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | in fact, when aware 18 hours in a row there's some mental fatigue | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so better split off into chunks so that there are rest breaks | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I came back to coffee yesterday | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I've just seen a link you sent about micro-posts, posts the length of a tweet | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I think that in TR, if we deploy the same CMS, there will be a more suitable workflow of publications | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | which wordpress isn't adequate for | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the wordpress side is good for certain types of posts | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and soon wordpress will no longer bring security patches for it | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | itsfoss.com has a site called news.itsfoss.com | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they're not the same, not the same people, not the same software | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but one is less formal than the other | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I think that's one possible approach for TR | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | a lot of what gets posted to IRC, or stuff with editorial comments, can instead be a short post | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | a bit like tumblr | Sep 08 10:22 |
chunky | did u say.. chunks..? | Sep 08 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | yes! | Sep 08 10:22 |
*chunky chef kissyfingers | Sep 08 10:22 | |
schestowitz-TR2 | btw | Sep 08 10:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I was in tesco last month | Sep 08 10:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | saw that item that says "chunky" | Sep 08 10:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it's a forzen food | Sep 08 10:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | *frozen | Sep 08 10:23 |
chunky | nice | Sep 08 10:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so when I walk past it I go | Sep 08 10:23 |
chunky | tesco is UK? | Sep 08 10:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | "oh... chunky... I know him!" | Sep 08 10:23 |
chunky | hell yeah | Sep 08 10:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | yes, tesco | Sep 08 10:23 |
chunky | that's me! | Sep 08 10:23 |
Techrights-sec | If I have read correctly, WordPress has mainly gone SaaS and it's decreasingly | Sep 08 10:24 |
Techrights-sec | possible to run one's own instance. | Sep 08 10:24 |
Techrights-sec | Approximately how many accounts will need to post to TR in the future? | Sep 08 10:24 |
Techrights-sec | A good bit of the parts from the current tm-new probably need to be modified | Sep 08 10:24 |
Techrights-sec | to fit into the different work flow. | Sep 08 10:24 |
chunky | i dunno what you're reading but that sounds very wrong | Sep 08 10:24 |
chunky | open source wordpress is the same as it ever was from my perspective | Sep 08 10:25 |
chunky | i'm forced to work on wordpress sites quite a bit so i'm a little familiar | Sep 08 10:25 |
chunky | maybe you're talking about wordpress.com rather than running your own installation of wordpress | Sep 08 10:25 |
chunky | anyway it's a bad platform, technologically dated | Sep 08 10:26 |
chunky | (imo) | Sep 08 10:26 |
schestowitz-TR2 | yeah | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I agree | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | Techrights-sec: | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | your assertion about wordpress is not accurate, it's not that it discourages self-hosting, but to me it is the bloat and fast release pace | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I don't think that TM CMS will need much adjustment for TR | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | we're still talking about automated split into taxonomy, maybe daily archives | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I think wordpress will stay | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | some dorks like me will backport patches | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | as happened with drupal 6 | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but wordpress is suitable for long form posts | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | like projects.propublica.com | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | whether to run with multiple CMS types and then duse together rss feeds, I don't know | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but I know a lot of what I post in wordpress would be more suitably done some other way | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | with another workflow | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | wordpress was designed as b2 a long time ago for another era and another purpose | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | now it does all this clowny stuff, as you note, and that was made evident in recent releases of it | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it's the era of GAFAM, not technorai and Firefox | Sep 08 10:28 |
chunky | schestowitz-TR2: why do your chats come out in batches like that? do you have a poor connection or is that intentional? | Sep 08 10:28 |
schestowitz-TR2 | *Technorati (incidentally, its founder moved to Mozilla) | Sep 08 10:29 |
chunky | i used to think you guys were simulating chats programatically in here because of that, but now i realize that's not the case.. still, curious | Sep 08 10:29 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it's done over a bridge | Sep 08 10:29 |
schestowitz-TR2 | in ytalk | Sep 08 10:29 |
chunky | ah ok.. maybe the bridge could use some work ;x | Sep 08 10:29 |
chunky | unelss you're writing longform like email | Sep 08 10:29 |
chunky | then i guess it's all working as it should | Sep 08 10:29 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the timing is poor | Sep 08 10:29 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but the sequence is still more or less alright | Sep 08 10:29 |
chunky | my preferred platform these dies for blog/news/etc type platforms is Hugo | Sep 08 10:30 |
chunky | it's a static site generator and it's an absolute joy to use | Sep 08 10:30 |
schestowitz-TR2 | Hugo has a dependency chain I don't like | Sep 08 10:30 |
chunky | these days* | Sep 08 10:30 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so we rejectec it | Sep 08 10:30 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and wrote our own | Sep 08 10:30 |
chunky | ah ok, understood | Sep 08 10:30 |
schestowitz-TR2 | reading code is hard | Sep 08 10:30 |
schestowitz-TR2 | writing code is easier | Sep 08 10:30 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so if you adopt some thing like hugo | Sep 08 10:30 |
chunky | i don't think anybody would argue w/ that | Sep 08 10:30 |
schestowitz-TR2 | you're at their mercy | Sep 08 10:30 |
schestowitz-TR2 | then they have new releases | Sep 08 10:31 |
schestowitz-TR2 | maybe your hacks obsolete | Sep 08 10:31 |
chunky | the one thing i don't like about hugo is that it really does assume you're structuring a website like a blog | Sep 08 10:31 |
schestowitz-TR2 | even if you use hooks | Sep 08 10:31 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they can later remove or break APIs too | Sep 08 10:31 |
chunky | but overall i really do enjoy using it | Sep 08 10:31 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so you're never really in control of your system | Sep 08 10:31 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and cannot shape it to your needs | Sep 08 10:31 |
chunky | yeah, fair enough | Sep 08 10:31 |
chunky | you're in a similar boat w/ wordpress though, i imagine | Sep 08 10:31 |
chunky | but at least it's not written in a language created by google ;x | Sep 08 10:31 |
schestowitz-TR2 | tuxmachines is not a blog | Sep 08 10:31 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it's something different | Sep 08 10:32 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and it has almost 200k pages | Sep 08 10:32 |
chunky | oh yeah i'm not referring to any specific website here | Sep 08 10:32 |
chunky | i didn't know you ran that | Sep 08 10:32 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so there's the scale to take into account | Sep 08 10:32 |
schestowitz-TR2 | like DB queries to run | Sep 08 10:32 |
chunky | hugo can smash through that without issue, in fact a static site generator on that scale (imo) is better than a dynamic website | Sep 08 10:32 |
schestowitz-TR2 | thw www is also dying | Sep 08 10:32 |
schestowitz-TR2 | ok, strong words | Sep 08 10:32 |
schestowitz-TR2 | not dying | Sep 08 10:32 |
schestowitz-TR2 | perishing | Sep 08 10:32 |
schestowitz-TR2 | hugo does not support gemini | Sep 08 10:32 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and if you plug in gemini support, it might break in the future | Sep 08 10:33 |
chunky | i've used hugo to develop ecommerce sites w/ more than half a million product pages and it smashes through compilation w/ no problem | Sep 08 10:33 |
schestowitz-TR2 | at the whims of some other devs | Sep 08 10:33 |
chunky | yeah that's the kind of stuff i've never really taken into consideration | Sep 08 10:33 |
schestowitz-TR2 | we also added MQTT to the CMS | Sep 08 10:34 |
chunky | i've used a gemini browser once, for example | Sep 08 10:34 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it's still young | Sep 08 10:34 |
chunky | just to read drewdevaults blog posts that were only available on that protocol | Sep 08 10:34 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but more tools come | Sep 08 10:34 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and "content" | Sep 08 10:34 |
chunky | if you're familar w/ him, idk | Sep 08 10:34 |
schestowitz-TR2 | yeah | Sep 08 10:34 |
schestowitz-TR2 | we linked to him this morning and yesterday | Sep 08 10:34 |
schestowitz-TR2 | abdout kernel stuff written in hare | Sep 08 10:34 |
chunky | nice | Sep 08 10:34 |
chunky | i use a lot of his softare, he's a hero to me | Sep 08 10:35 |
chunky | schestowitz-TR2: is there a reason tuxmachines.org isn't using an ssl cert signed by a known root ca? | Sep 08 10:37 |
chunky | i'm getting MOZILLA_PKIX_ERROR_SELF_SIGNED_CERT | Sep 08 10:37 |
schestowitz-TR2 | gemini.tuxmachines.org runs on his software | Sep 08 10:37 |
chunky | nice | Sep 08 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the error you get says, | Sep 08 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR2 | this site is not controlled by a cartel | Sep 08 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it trusts itself | Sep 08 10:39 |
chunky | fair | Sep 08 10:39 |
chunky | guess that's why i asked | Sep 08 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and the cartel cannot verify that roy is outsourcing control to the cartel | Sep 08 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR2 | mozilla is rubbish | Sep 08 10:39 |
chunky | couldn't agree more | Sep 08 10:39 |
chunky | i still use firefox | Sep 08 10:39 |
chunky | i try to get away from it | Sep 08 10:39 |
chunky | qutebrowser is super promising | Sep 08 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR2 | i have it installed | Sep 08 10:39 |
chunky | getting better all the time | Sep 08 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR2 | qutebrowser shills Microsoft | Sep 08 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR2 | at least in Debian 10 | Sep 08 10:40 |
chunky | yeah? | Sep 08 10:40 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it defaults to DDG | Sep 08 10:40 |
chunky | i bet The-Compiler would change that | Sep 08 10:40 |
chunky | i certainly doubt he is compensated for that | Sep 08 10:40 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and makes it hard to change these defaults | Sep 08 10:40 |
chunky | it's not hard at all | Sep 08 10:40 |
chunky | it's just a setting in a config file | Sep 08 10:40 |
schestowitz-TR2 | i tried | Sep 08 10:40 |
chunky | mine is changed to a searx instance, for example | Sep 08 10:40 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it ignored that | Sep 08 10:40 |
chunky | it's not difficult | Sep 08 10:40 |
chunky | hopefully i don't get kicked for flooding, but | Sep 08 10:41 |
chunky | c.url.start_pages = 'https://paulgo.io' | Sep 08 10:41 |
chunky | c.url.default_page = 'https://paulgo.io' | Sep 08 10:41 |
chunky | c.url.searchengines = { | Sep 08 10:41 |
chunky | 'DEFAULT': 'https://paulgo.io/?q={}', | Sep 08 10:41 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-paulgo.io | PaulGO | Sep 08 10:41 | |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 308 @ https://paulgo.io/?q={} ) | Sep 08 10:41 | |
chunky | this in my config file fixes that completely | Sep 08 10:41 |
chunky | for qutebrowser | Sep 08 10:41 |
chunky | no problem | Sep 08 10:41 |
schestowitz-TR2 | there are no kickbans for "floods" | Sep 08 10:42 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the servers just throttles down after 4 fast lines | Sep 08 10:43 |
chunky | ah ok, gotcha | Sep 08 10:43 |
chunky | i run an irc server where we blast irc art @ each other all day | Sep 08 10:43 |
chunky | no flood protection at all | Sep 08 10:43 |
chunky | luv it :) | Sep 08 10:43 |
chunky | anyway qutebrowser is very good and i hope you wouldn't think that the author, The-Compiler is intentionally trying to harm its users | Sep 08 10:47 |
chunky | i bet the ddg default is only based on his own personal preference, and maybe he's not privvy to these privacy issues | Sep 08 10:47 |
schestowitz-TR2 | if you know the dev, contact him/her | Sep 08 10:49 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and tell them what DDG is | Sep 08 10:49 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and how that puts off more and more potential users | Sep 08 10:50 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo | Sep 08 10:50 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | DuckDuckGo - Techrights | Sep 08 10:50 | |
chunky | reading about ddg is how i came to find techrights website :) | Sep 08 10:50 |
chunky | that's why i'm on this irc server | Sep 08 10:50 |
chunky | for a long time i figured something wasn't right about it, and i'm pretty much always skeptical of services offering privacy/security as their main feature, so it was nice to see techrights drill down on some detail at some point | Sep 08 10:51 |
chunky | thx :) | Sep 08 10:51 |
chunky | i'll mention it to The-Compiler and see what he says about it | Sep 08 10:51 |
chunky | i normally don't worry about defaults like that in software because most tend to be garbage, but i have nothing to lose from mentioning it to him | Sep 08 10:52 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the ddg controversy is not new | Sep 08 10:53 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but those MFers have budget | Sep 08 10:53 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and they gaslight people | Sep 08 10:53 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and don't answer critics | Sep 08 10:53 |
chunky | yeah | Sep 08 10:53 |
chunky | the guy is a piece of shit | Sep 08 10:53 |
schestowitz-TR2 | we got some whistleblowers | Sep 08 10:53 |
chunky | i saw him answer to a thread on ycombinator's hacker news and it was just steam | Sep 08 10:53 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and have warned about DDG for over a decade | Sep 08 10:54 |
chunky | no real answer | Sep 08 10:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | all along calling it a Microsoft proxy | Sep 08 10:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | now it's more evident with the NDA and all | Sep 08 10:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | Gabe admits it | Sep 08 10:54 |
chunky | i've warned personal friends over the years about ddg being suspect without having any actual proof | Sep 08 10:54 |
chunky | people just said i'm overly cautious and the usual stuff | Sep 08 10:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I hope they fall back to 0% | Sep 08 10:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it was just bing with a mask | Sep 08 10:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | like the scooby doo meme | Sep 08 10:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | "let's see who you really are!" | Sep 08 10:55 |
chunky | they're pretty popular now | Sep 08 10:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they have budget | Sep 08 10:56 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and get hosting from Microsoft | Sep 08 10:56 |
chunky | people tricked into believing they're the good guys | Sep 08 10:56 |
schestowitz-TR2 | among other things | Sep 08 10:56 |
schestowitz-TR2 | haha, Microsoft trhe good guys | Sep 08 10:56 |
chunky | honestly technology seems hopeless sometimes | Sep 08 10:56 |
schestowitz-TR2 | "oooh, Microsoft, save me from Gulag, PLEASE!" | Sep 08 10:56 |
chunky | computers and the internet really highlight some of the worst qualities in humans | Sep 08 10:56 |
chunky | pure greed | Sep 08 10:56 |
schestowitz-TR2 | yeah | Sep 08 10:56 |
schestowitz-TR2 | now the marketing people rename everything | Sep 08 10:56 |
schestowitz-TR2 | devops | Sep 08 10:56 |
schestowitz-TR2 | clown | Sep 08 10:56 |
schestowitz-TR2 | meaning | Sep 08 10:56 |
schestowitz-TR2 | sysadmin | Sep 08 10:56 |
schestowitz-TR2 | server | Sep 08 10:57 |
chunky | yeah i've never really understood the term devops | Sep 08 10:57 |
chunky | and the more i look into it the less it makes sense | Sep 08 10:57 |
schestowitz-TR2 | then "smart"... and hype waves like "web3" and "hey hi" (AI) | Sep 08 10:57 |
schestowitz-TR2 | make you want to get off the train | Sep 08 10:57 |
chunky | my conclusion is basically that in order to understand it you have to buy into bullshit | Sep 08 10:57 |
schestowitz-TR2 | some idiots at my workplace are like that | Sep 08 10:57 |
chunky | same w/ all the renamed tech stuff at the cloud service providers | Sep 08 10:57 |
schestowitz-TR2 | dev ops = programmijngn | Sep 08 10:57 |
schestowitz-TR2 | coder | Sep 08 10:57 |
schestowitz-TR2 | development | Sep 08 10:57 |
schestowitz-TR2 | now it's all "OOPS" | Sep 08 10:57 |
schestowitz-TR2 | GitOOPS | Sep 08 10:57 |
chunky | amazon and google take pre-existing tech and give it some super weird name | Sep 08 10:57 |
schestowitz-TR2 | ClownOOPS | Sep 08 10:58 |
chunky | l0l | Sep 08 10:58 |
chunky | p much | Sep 08 10:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | "HEYHIOOPS' | Sep 08 10:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | (aiops" | Sep 08 10:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it'a a farce | Sep 08 10:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it's not CS | Sep 08 10:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it's shitty suits and m,arketing drecks like jim zemlin | Sep 08 10:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | ruining the industry | Sep 08 10:58 |
chunky | it's just deep vendor lock-in | Sep 08 10:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | which they rebraded as "AYE TEA" decades back | Sep 08 10:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | CS=science | Sep 08 10:58 |
chunky | at some point the people working on this stuff won't understand computers | Sep 08 10:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | "IT"=whatever | Sep 08 10:58 |
chunky | i wonder when the time will come that not a person alive will actually understand how computers work | Sep 08 10:59 |
schestowitz-TR2 | right | Sep 08 10:59 |
chunky | but everyone will rely on them | Sep 08 10:59 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but we need to reject the buzzwords | Sep 08 10:59 |
schestowitz-TR2 | for starters | Sep 08 10:59 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and use terminopoly that explains what happens | Sep 08 10:59 |
schestowitz-TR2 | like "outsourcing" | Sep 08 10:59 |
schestowitz-TR2 | Red Hat keeps saying "transformation" | Sep 08 10:59 |
chunky | lol | Sep 08 10:59 |
chunky | yeah | Sep 08 10:59 |
schestowitz-TR2 | or "modernisation" | Sep 08 10:59 |
chunky | "serverless" nah dawg that's "outsourcing" | Sep 08 10:59 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they mean complexity | Sep 08 10:59 |
chunky | serverless is one that really gets me, god is that ever stupid | Sep 08 11:00 |
schestowitz-TR2 | like adding kubernetes to a business with one physical server | Sep 08 11:00 |
chunky | l0llll | Sep 08 11:00 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so then they buy crap like openshit | Sep 08 11:00 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and ask Red Hat, PLEASE WE NEEDE SUPPORT! FAST FAST!! DOWNTIMES. | Sep 08 11:00 |
chunky | it's just guys in suits at business meetings doing handshake deals w/o having a clue what they're talking about | Sep 08 11:00 |
chunky | that's how most of this stuff comes to be | Sep 08 11:00 |
schestowitz-TR2 | openshift is Free software | Sep 08 11:00 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but you can't find people who know how to use and fix it | Sep 08 11:00 |
chunky | some of it is engineered and downright evil though | Sep 08 11:01 |
schestowitz-TR2 | not may people elarned ansible either | Sep 08 11:01 |
schestowitz-TR2 | unless they get thewir expensive "red hat" cert | Sep 08 11:01 |
schestowitz-TR2 | many use puppet | Sep 08 11:01 |
schestowitz-TR2 | or even chef | Sep 08 11:01 |
schestowitz-TR2 | then you have wordpress | Sep 08 11:01 |
chunky | i wouldn't know what the better option is for deployment automation | Sep 08 11:01 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and what becomes of it | Sep 08 11:01 |
schestowitz-TR2 | talking over yalk about it atm | Sep 08 11:01 |
chunky | i'd roll my own to know what's going on | Sep 08 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | chunky: nor would they | Sep 08 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they just look at IBM brochures | Sep 08 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and go with a bundle | Sep 08 11:02 |
chunky | yeah | Sep 08 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | ansible tower, openshift.. | Sep 08 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | .and then look for clueless gards with got some "red hat"c ert | Sep 08 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | for memoprising stuff | Sep 08 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | *memorising | Sep 08 11:02 |
chunky | sad | Sep 08 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and once they are off script | Sep 08 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | or need to actually writ ea program | Sep 08 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they are stuck | Sep 08 11:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it's not in "the exam" | Sep 08 11:03 |
chunky | GET BILL GATES IN HERE! | Sep 08 11:03 |
chunky | YOU TOLD US WINDOWS 98 WOULD BE FASTER AND MORE EFFICIENT! | Sep 08 11:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so you pay red ahat $2000 per year per server | Sep 08 11:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | for many 2 open tickets per year | Sep 08 11:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so you pay $1000 for erach "incident" | Sep 08 11:03 |
chunky | l0l | Sep 08 11:03 |
chunky | racket | Sep 08 11:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | which means they profit from issues in their software | Sep 08 11:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | some of these companies come to us | Sep 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-TR2 | because they get rippd off | Sep 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and we fix things for them more cheaply | Sep 08 11:04 |
schestowitz-TR2 | red hat has an incentive to make gnu/linxu robust | Sep 08 11:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but not the add-on | Sep 08 11:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they want a good product | Sep 08 11:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but they also want you to NEED them | Sep 08 11:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | like many businesses | Sep 08 11:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | even ours | Sep 08 11:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | you should see managers | Sep 08 11:06 |
schestowitz-TR2 | trying not to give away some secret sauce | Sep 08 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | as then the client would fix the issues without us | Sep 08 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | that's managers | Sep 08 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | now, re wordpress | Sep 08 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they profit as a hosting company | Sep 08 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | with ads | Sep 08 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and other premium products | Sep 08 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | wordpress.org lets them rope in more potential users | Sep 08 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they can later "upsell" | Sep 08 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but to be fair they don't make wordpress.org more buggy | Sep 08 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | just more bloated | Sep 08 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and thus potentially hard to set up and diagnose | Sep 08 11:08 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 08 11:08 |
Techrights-sec | Two reasons for saying the above are that the maintenance is now highly | Sep 08 11:08 |
Techrights-sec | complex (and as you say fast moving) *and* that they require remote access | Sep 08 11:08 |
Techrights-sec | to your system *via FTP* for automated updates. Yes, it is possible to | Sep 08 11:08 |
Techrights-sec | do manual updates, you know the details on that. That is too much for | Sep 08 11:08 |
Techrights-sec | many people, even just counting the time requirement not including the skills | Sep 08 11:08 |
Techrights-sec | necessary. So without manual updates, the choice becomes between a highly | Sep 08 11:08 |
Techrights-sec | insecure system where the login credentials are, in effect, broadcast because | Sep 08 11:08 |
Techrights-sec | of FTP, or just let them handle the whole thing for a fee. I looked into | Sep 08 11:08 |
Techrights-sec | various CMS in detail a few months ago and came to that conclusion, hopefully | Sep 08 11:08 |
Techrights-sec | not too incorrectly. | Sep 08 11:08 |
chunky | yeah i think wordpress is an example of a good way to operate an open source company | Sep 08 11:10 |
chunky | they offer open source software and also offer to host it for you for a free | Sep 08 11:10 |
chunky | for a fee* | Sep 08 11:10 |
chunky | i don't take any issue w their business model, seems like the ideal way to do things | Sep 08 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they used to use ftp | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I've not myself installed newer versions except at work | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and then didn't update then, just handed over the system | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I have notes on the 'recipe' for manual update | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I can give that to you | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I assure you | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | that | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | a) many sec patches don't need backporting | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | b) v 3.9.x won't be affected by many new bugs | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | c) any backporting would be simple | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | d) someone out there will stll do it | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | e) the patches don't need downloading | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | f) edit file, change the lines based on the patch reference/object | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | like I did in drupal 6 | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so I reckon wordpress isn't hopeless | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the problem is that I maintain and look after about a dozen wordpress sites | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | if the se patches are not super critivcal | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | e.g. xss (JS) | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | multi-user installs where some users are very untrustweoirtthy (wishing to n vandalise the bsystem) | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | ete etc. | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | nobody will bother with a patch until something major comes along | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | as happened years ago with drupal 6 | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | susan contacted me about it after I had patched it | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | you could basically bypass the shim between one file/function and another | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and pass some bad stuff to the function from a web browser | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the fix was a simple input sanitisation | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so I added it | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | at work I see all the latest drupal holes (eeven this morning I reported one to colleagues) | Sep 08 11:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | most affect just new versions. The bigger the s/w, the more holes are to be expectred. | Sep 08 11:14 |
Techrights-sec | As far as I know they used it as recently as the beginning of this year! | Sep 08 11:15 |
Techrights-sec | The recipe would be of interest, thanks | Sep 08 11:15 |
Techrights-sec | The business model is kind of ok, the excessive complexity is not. Nor is | Sep 08 11:15 |
Techrights-sec | the (former?) dependence on FTP and any form of obligatory remote access | Sep 08 11:15 |
Techrights-sec | as a precondition for updating. | Sep 08 11:15 |
chunky | i think the core wordpress updates now use the php curl library to download rather than ftp | Sep 08 11:16 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I know the backstory very well | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I was a student and deeply involved in the community back then | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | matt mullenweg and his buddy from cisco expressed oncerns that many did not update their wordpress installs | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | (to be fair, it was not simple and some tried to update without making proper backups first, or not knowing how to restore from backup) | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | by then, matt's friend had taken over from mike little (Stockporrrt, near here) and even locked him out | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | people blasted them for low-quality code | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | with holes | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and then hosts were threatening wordpress would not be an option for quick automated installs | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so they had to do something | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | first they threatened users | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | like "Upgrade, or else" | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | headline (from memory) | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | then this FTP thing | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | which I wrote about a decade ago | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it's like a back door | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | with tracy's server it never worked | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | because access was 'two factor' (password PLUS keys, in two stages, via gateway) | Sep 08 11:19 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I will give you my crude notes | Sep 08 11:19 |
chunky | imo wordpress still is low quality code | Sep 08 11:20 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it was not made by coder | Sep 08 11:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it was not made by coders | Sep 08 11:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but a curious bunch that hacked on code | Sep 08 11:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | of b2 | Sep 08 11:22 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 08 11:22 |
chunky | that's the kind of stuff that tends to be more successful | Sep 08 11:23 |
chunky | people trying to fulfill a real-world goal instead of trying to be technically correct | Sep 08 11:23 |
chunky | that's what i see anyway | Sep 08 11:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | chunky: as noted earlier, the occupation is under attack | Sep 08 11:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | MBA | Sep 08 11:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | suits | Sep 08 11:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | patent lawyers | Sep 08 11:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the security "experts" are biologists | Sep 08 11:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | like mgarrett | Sep 08 11:23 |
schestowitz-TR2 | with no relevant training, just studying as one goes along | Sep 08 11:24 |
schestowitz-TR2 | that's like me becoming a GP | Sep 08 11:24 |
schestowitz-TR2 | by sitting at the office listening to sessions | Sep 08 11:24 |
chunky | hey can you check out this weird lump on my anus? | Sep 08 11:24 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and learning this way | Sep 08 11:24 |
schestowitz-TR2 | GPs do all sorts of unpleasant jobs | Sep 08 11:25 |
schestowitz-TR2 | even the seemingly sexual stuff isn't nice | Sep 08 11:25 |
schestowitz-TR2 | worse than platonic | Sep 08 11:25 |
schestowitz-TR2 | like sticking singers up dold people | Sep 08 11:25 |
chunky | yes | Sep 08 11:25 |
schestowitz-TR2 | even of the same gender | Sep 08 11:25 |
schestowitz-TR2 | nothing "turn-on" about that | Sep 08 11:25 |
schestowitz-TR2 | erven gynecologists | Sep 08 11:25 |
chunky | i've said and i'll say again that tricking people into thinking that being a doctor or a lawyer is a good job is mankind's greatest con | Sep 08 11:25 |
chunky | i worded that poorly, hopefully u know what i mean | Sep 08 11:25 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I reckon the good -looking girls choose doctors who are old straight women | Sep 08 11:25 |
schestowitz-TR2 | not some old men | Sep 08 11:25 |
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schestowitz-TR2 | aha | Sep 08 11:49 |
schestowitz-TR2 | after kicking myself for 3 hours last nigth tryint to recall what I wanted to do | Sep 08 11:49 |
schestowitz-TR2 | moments ago in the bathroom I recalled what it was I had planned to do | Sep 08 11:49 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so it came back to me like 16 hours later | Sep 08 11:49 |
schestowitz-TR2 | due to the same train of thought colliding with the same issue | Sep 08 11:49 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but 16 hours is a long time | Sep 08 11:49 |
schestowitz-TR2 | mystery solved at least | Sep 08 11:49 |
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Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 08 12:08 |
schestowitz-TR2 | is it ok that financial affairs, unless very politicised (class vs tribalism), are ok for the main #techrights channel? | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I think there's some overlap there with tech and usually it doesn't bring unwanted politics | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | unlike, say, immigration | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | climate is a science topic too, but probably better restricted to social | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I'm asking because, | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | everywhere I look | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | anyone I speak to (even family) | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | financial woes are a big theme | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and people try to make sense of it | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | seems they correctly blame "the rich" and not [that political party] | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | apropos, don't know what's happening in norway | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | my contacts there haven't been corresponding in a while | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but in spite of natural resources they too would be impacted by high energy prices, esp. in winter | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | set aside immigration as a strain | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | when your country has that few citizens even 100,000 financial/economic immigrants, somw of whom flee famine/war, is a cumbersome obligation | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and it was interesting to see norway's reaction to russia's aggression | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | invasion from the north is super easy, by land or by sea (or ice) | Sep 08 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR2 | putin would love to get his hands on that energy pool | Sep 08 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | another spiggot by which toi punish europe (of course it causes the poor to suffer most, then he can try to incite them against other poor people, | Sep 08 12:15 |
schestowitz-TR2 | based on racial profile) | Sep 08 12:15 |
schestowitz | no reporting from this sam this past week; then, hours ago: https://itwire.com/mobility/oppo-puts-two-more-reno-5g-models-on-sale-down-under.html | Sep 08 12:43 |
schestowitz | wasting his time on marketing puff | Sep 08 12:43 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Oppo puts two more Reno 5G models on sale Down Under | Sep 08 12:43 | |
Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 08 12:44 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 08 12:44 |
Techrights-sec | Norway is also in an awkward position. They could be supplying petrochemicals | Sep 08 12:50 |
Techrights-sec | to Europe but for some reason aren't very much. Not that it would be a good | Sep 08 12:50 |
Techrights-sec | thing in the long run for either the world or for Norway. IIRC Norway has been | Sep 08 12:50 |
Techrights-sec | trying to wean itself from petrochemical income and invest in sounder areas. | Sep 08 12:50 |
schestowitz-TR2 | norway does not have the brain drain issue | Sep 08 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they seem to retain smart people | Sep 08 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the friends I had from there mostly came back to begen, oslo etc. | Sep 08 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and are happy enough there | Sep 08 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | no need for Liz Trumps | Sep 08 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but.. | Sep 08 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | that edge can be lost over time, like in companies where you bring in Z types, X types... | Sep 08 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the other night I opened the door around midnight | Sep 08 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the next-door neighbours were having like a 'conference' of a dozen men in the back year | Sep 08 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | laughing off in some foreign language | Sep 08 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | our city is highly dependent on ultgra-tolerance of those who reject the culture | Sep 08 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | partly due to "investment" (like football) | Sep 08 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR2 | Norway, unlike other countries, has invested in quality of life factors and | Sep 08 12:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | made an effort to ensure that the entire country is livable, not just the | Sep 08 12:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | tiny zone around the capital. | Sep 08 12:55 |
Techrights-sec | Norway, unlike other countries, has invested in quality of life factors and | Sep 08 12:55 |
Techrights-sec | made an effort to ensure that the entire country is livable, not just the | Sep 08 12:55 |
Techrights-sec | tiny zone around the capital. | Sep 08 12:55 |
Techrights-sec | ^capitol | Sep 08 12:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | ^capitol | Sep 08 12:55 |
Techrights-sec | s/are/were/ | Sep 08 12:57 |
Techrights-sec | Brushing those problems under the carpet just makes it worse here and now. | Sep 08 13:04 |
Techrights-sec | Then as the problmes grow, they become just downright intolerable later. | Sep 08 13:04 |
Techrights-sec | However, that is next month or next quarter or even next year, i.e. never | Sep 08 13:04 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the "saving face" approach is why many orgs in FS are undermined | Sep 08 13:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | while they shout and scream at Techrights, debian.community etc. | Sep 08 13:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | for saying what they would rather keep under the carpet or behind the veil | Sep 08 13:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | as you are aware, britain is a tax haven economy esp. near the southeast, so they cultivate that further with "tax cuts" and "foreign investment" | Sep 08 13:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | welcome, even if that prices residence out of reach for locals and ushers in a cultural problem | Sep 08 13:08 |
schestowitz-TR2 | having said that, guess who gets blamed at the end | Sep 08 13:08 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they don't frame that as an economic issue | Sep 08 13:08 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and then blame "the liberals" | Sep 08 13:08 |
schestowitz-TR2 | saying stuff that incites one clique of poor people against another | Sep 08 13:08 |
Techrights-sec | "This approach has not worked and has never worked before, so therefore | Sep 08 13:09 |
Techrights-sec | let us inflict more of it towards the goal it has never yet achieved and | Sep 08 13:09 |
Techrights-sec | appears to counteract." | Sep 08 13:09 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 08 13:32 |
schestowitz-TR2 | <techrights-news> Later they wonder why people became more sceptical of the medical profession (like physicians who take a bribe to recommend some prescription) and even vaccines. People observe what low standards are now imposed/expected, like testing on some animals and then distributing to millions/billions of people in bulk. You're killing the profession. Like LF kills "Linux(TM)" (openwashing stamp). | Sep 08 13:36 |
schestowitz-TR2 | <techrights-news> "Critical thinkers and sceptics haven’t lost sight of the fact that British media now pushes for a new vaccine. Yeah, because the first one was so successful that this summer was the worst so far." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/03/uk-statistics-about-58-of-the-population-opted-to-receive-a-booster-and-now-they-say-another-vaccine-is-needed/ | Sep 08 13:37 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK Statistics: About 58% of the Population Opted to Receive a ‘Booster’ (and Now They Say Another Vaccine is Needed) | Sep 08 13:37 | |
Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 08 13:37 |
schestowitz-TR2 | this evening we'll have the latest data fro thwe week | Sep 08 13:39 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they pushed that back to thurs 4pm | Sep 08 13:39 |
schestowitz-TR2 | was weds 4pm before | Sep 08 13:39 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and the mortality reports were silently killed when there was a surge in deaths | Sep 08 13:39 |
schestowitz-TR2 | how convenient | Sep 08 13:39 |
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schestowitz-TR2 | I'm sure Liz Trump will be a "strong leaders" | Sep 08 13:39 |
schestowitz | https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/07/memory-shortcomings/ | Sep 08 13:39 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Human Memory’s Obnoxious Weakness | Sep 08 13:39 | |
schestowitz-TR2 | sorry, wrong url | Sep 08 13:39 |
schestowitz-TR2 | " https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/06/truss-more-of-the-same/ | Sep 08 13:40 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Our New Prime Minister: More of the Same | Sep 08 13:40 | |
schestowitz-TR2 | - | Sep 08 13:40 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 08 13:41 |
schestowitz-TR2 | <techrights-news> Victory? EFF should call to ABOLISH Slack. But EFF is run by a bunch of slackers these days. 3 key people died. ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/victory-slack-offers-retention-settings-free-workspaces | Source: EFF | Sep 08 13:48 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | VICTORY: Slack Offers Retention Settings to Free Workspaces | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Sep 08 13:48 | |
schestowitz-TR2 | EFF: Victory! We had a meeting with Donald Trump. | Sep 08 13:48 |
schestowitz-TR2 | FSF: Victory: RMS was on Kremlin channel twice this year | Sep 08 13:48 |
schestowitz-TR2 | <techrights-news> EFF is still fighting. Seriously, it's fighting. Just not for EFF causes. | Sep 08 13:51 |
schestowitz-TR2 | <techrights-news> The E is today's EFF is estrogen | Sep 08 13:51 |
Techrights-sec | :/ | Sep 08 13:53 |
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schestowitz-TR2 | <techrights-news> The issue isn't Linux itself; they're misplacing the blame, just like Microsoft wants them to (Microsoft does this too https://cisoseries.com/cyber-security-headlines-cisa-incident-reporting-linux-focused-iot-malware-albania-cuts-ties-over-cyberattack/ | Sep 08 14:36 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cisoseries.com | CISA incident reporting, Albania cuts ties over cyberattack | Sep 08 14:36 | |
schestowitz-TR2 | -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- cisoseries.com | CISA incident reporting, Albania cuts ties over cyberattack | Sep 08 14:36 |
schestowitz-TR2 | <techrights-news> How about we start calling all Adobe and AutoCAD flaws "WINDOWS MALWARE? | Sep 08 14:36 |
schestowitz-TR2 | It's not Linux that welcomes that malware; the malware gets there by other means and once installed it can do anything it wants. Not an OS issue. https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-threats/next-gen-linux-malware-takes-over-devices-unique-toolset | Sep 08 14:36 |
schestowitz-TR2 | -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.darkreading.com | Next-Gen Linux Malware Takes Over Devices With Unique Tool Set | Sep 08 14:36 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.darkreading.com | Next-Gen Linux Malware Takes Over Devices With Unique Tool Set | Sep 08 14:36 | |
schestowitz-TR2 | <techrights-news> You can drive your car off a cliff. That doesn't mean the car is not safe. | Sep 08 14:36 |
schestowitz-TR2 | rianne has returned | Sep 08 17:09 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the results are not given on the spot | Sep 08 17:09 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but she finished in 10 mins instead of 45 | Sep 08 17:09 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and thought she aced it | Sep 08 17:09 |
schestowitz-TR2 | will need to wait | Sep 08 17:09 |
Techrights-sec | excellent | Sep 08 17:09 |
schestowitz-TR2 | hmmm | Sep 08 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR2 | interesting | Sep 08 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they apparently just say pass or no pass | Sep 08 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR2 | without telling you the score | Sep 08 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR2 | she knew all the questions | Sep 08 17:21 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and had practiced a lot | Sep 08 17:21 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but I guess Home Office can see the actual score | Sep 08 17:21 |
schestowitz-TR2 | which can help | Sep 08 17:21 |
schestowitz-TR2 | weird that they don't tell the person taking the exam | Sep 08 17:21 |
Techrights-sec | oh well. | Sep 08 17:21 |
Techrights-sec | Was it a language test or a specific topic instead? | Sep 08 17:21 |
schestowitz-TR2 | general knowledge | Sep 08 17:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | we'll ask the attorney tomorrow | Sep 08 17:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | he used to work for Home Officer | Sep 08 17:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | Office | Sep 08 17:22 |
schestowitz-TR2 | if they can at l;east appreciate a perfect score | Sep 08 17:22 |
Techrights-sec | I hope they can and that it is to her advantage. | Sep 08 17:22 |
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schestowitz-TR2 | anyway, she could finished in 8 mins | Sep 08 17:41 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I told her to take her time | Sep 08 17:41 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but no need beyond 10 | Sep 08 17:41 |
schestowitz-TR2 | she knew those questions | Sep 08 17:41 |
schestowitz-TR2 | 45 mins is too much | Sep 08 17:41 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I now they that for confidentiality reasons they don't send the full results over emaiul/www | Sep 08 17:41 |
schestowitz-TR2 | just assure her it's ok, nothing further | Sep 08 17:41 |
schestowitz-TR2 | she spent over a month preparing | Sep 08 17:41 |
Techrights-sec | That's good if they are cognizant of the shortcomings of standard e-mail, | Sep 08 17:47 |
Techrights-sec | not to mention M$ imitation of e-mail which routes through Washington state. | Sep 08 17:47 |
schestowitz-TR2 | even if they say just pass/fail in unencrypted mail | Sep 08 17:48 |
schestowitz-TR2 | along with some personal details | Sep 08 17:48 |
schestowitz-TR2 | this is not good | Sep 08 17:48 |
schestowitz-TR2 | the exact score is hardly the most sensitive bit of info | Sep 08 17:48 |
schestowitz-TR2 | that they can leak to foreign countries | Sep 08 17:48 |
schestowitz-TR2 | <techrights-news> NHS Once Again Admits That the Number of Deaths It Gave Was Wrong (More People Had Died Than It Disclosed) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/08/number-of-deaths-wrong-lowballed/ | Sep 08 18:00 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » NHS Once Again Admits That the Number of Deaths It Gave Was Wrong (More People Had Died Than It Disclosed) | Sep 08 18:00 | |
Techrights-sec | Gates mentioned, but only in passing, https://text.npr.org/1121525125 | Sep 08 18:00 |
Techrights-sec | certainly not the visit in jail | Sep 08 18:00 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Here's why conspiracy theories about Jeffrey Epstein keep flourishing | Sep 08 18:00 | |
schestowitz-TR2 | yes, BillPR is a total disgrace | Sep 08 18:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | they use the label to discredit some facts | Sep 08 18:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | by tying them to BS | Sep 08 18:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I'd rather just boycott BillPR | Sep 08 18:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it makes me sick | Sep 08 18:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it keeps insulting people who point out facts | Sep 08 18:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and even blocks some in twitter | Sep 08 18:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | for pointing out Gates pays them | Sep 08 18:02 |
Techrights-sec | Yes they are pushing strawman arguments on the topic. | Sep 08 18:03 |
Techrights-sec | Strangely they did not mention the conflict of interest regarding funding | Sep 08 18:03 |
Techrights-sec | there in the article. Not even a word. | Sep 08 18:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it is outrageous | Sep 08 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR2 | billbC did the exact same | Sep 08 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR2 | painting bill as the victim | Sep 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR2 | "people shout at me in the streets" | Sep 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I guess hiding the bribes is now their fallback strategy | Sep 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR2 | we should just boycott them and call them out on it | Sep 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR2 | later you say gates and epstein in the same sentence | Sep 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and people reclal this BS they saw in BillBL and BillPR | Sep 08 18:05 |
Techrights-sec | Sep 08 18:05 | |
Techrights-sec | Yep. That's a goal of theirs. | Sep 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and then they then think you are insane | Sep 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I think it's hardly a new strategy and some people older than me say the same about JFK | Sep 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and some about 9/11 | Sep 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR2 | became too toxic to discuss | Sep 08 18:05 |
Techrights-sec | Yep. That's a goal of theirs. Saturate, diffuse, confuse. | Sep 08 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR2 | l;ater people get cyncical about the media | Sep 08 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and turn to even worse: social control media | Sep 08 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR2 | maybe gates is hardly mentyioned for them to avoid having the burden of adding a disclosure of conflict | Sep 08 18:08 |
Techrights-sec | Ack | Sep 08 18:16 |
Techrights-sec | Already too many politicians, especially high-level ones, appear to have gotten | Sep 08 18:16 |
Techrights-sec | suckered by social control media to the point that it looks like it has been | Sep 08 18:16 |
Techrights-sec | influencing both their rhetoric and their policies. Chumps | Sep 08 18:16 |
Techrights-sec | That level of irresponsibility is harmful when coupled by they authority they | Sep 08 18:16 |
Techrights-sec | have been granted through elections or appointments. | Sep 08 18:16 |
Techrights-sec | It's essentially worse than lobbying, and that is bad enough being in practice | Sep 08 18:16 |
Techrights-sec | just bribery dressed up a little. | Sep 08 18:16 |
Techrights-sec | However rather than bribery, social control media is maniuplation and propaganda | Sep 08 18:16 |
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schestowitz-TR2 | my note: record something on banned boosk, relate this to the www/net era, mention billpr along tghe way | Sep 08 18:52 |
schestowitz-TR2 | rianne is now back to posting as usual | Sep 08 18:53 |
schestowitz-TR2 | she is pretty certain she got 100% | Sep 08 18:53 |
schestowitz-TR2 | we'll ask tomorrow | Sep 08 18:53 |
schestowitz-TR2 | price of toiletries (toothpoaste, creams etc.) went up sharply | Sep 08 18:53 |
schestowitz-TR2 | we'll try to 'cheat' this system by hopping between stores | Sep 08 18:53 |
Techrights-sec | And perhaps the ephemeral nature of the web. | Sep 08 18:55 |
Techrights-sec | "shrinkflation" is affecting those goods badly | Sep 08 18:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | yes, web rot is a think | Sep 08 18:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | TR, TM, and my site have a near perfect record of keeping ALL URLs alive, even almost 20 years down the line | Sep 08 18:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I do this with a passion, sometimes adding redirections | Sep 08 18:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | you might even call it a compettiive advantage | Sep 08 18:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but it's not a content | Sep 08 18:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | *contest | Sep 08 18:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | need to think of key points to cover | Sep 08 18:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | maybe after the next round of rss cleaning | Sep 08 18:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | by which point it'll be dark here anyway | Sep 08 18:58 |
schestowitz-TR2 | ---- | Sep 08 19:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | two bad news | Sep 08 19:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | 1) queen liz just died (yes, same time rianne did her exam) | Sep 08 19:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | 2) the aunt whose hunsband died months ago... got cancer (stage 1, but we hoped for less) | Sep 08 19:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | i might not record today | Sep 08 19:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | lots to digest | Sep 08 19:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I'll prioritise auto-pilot on the sites | Sep 08 19:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | bbl | Sep 08 19:03 |
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Techrights-sec | otr: I can see 2) being of concern, but how does 1) affect anything, sorry | Sep 08 19:45 |
Techrights-sec | otr: for the callousness regarding 1) there | Sep 08 19:45 |
schestowitz-TR2 | it is complicated | Sep 08 19:51 |
schestowitz-TR2 | what it means to me is not what it means to millions of others | Sep 08 19:51 |
schestowitz-TR2 | many of whom cry now | Sep 08 19:51 |
schestowitz-TR2 | disparity in compassion | Sep 08 19:51 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but i have many other things in my mind atm, so took a break | Sep 08 19:51 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I will post link with robot-like mind | Sep 08 19:51 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and do posts later | Sep 08 19:51 |
schestowitz-TR2 | need to calibrate a little | Sep 08 19:51 |
schestowitz-TR2 | rianne is writing something about it atm | Sep 08 19:51 |
schestowitz-TR2 | remember she studied this stuff all day long for a long time | Sep 08 19:51 |
schestowitz-TR2 | --- | Sep 08 19:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | rianne heard of the term shinkflation before | Sep 08 19:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | she even used it | Sep 08 19:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | to me it is new as I read different kinds of media | Sep 08 19:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | we're discussing how to bypass that, like which shops sell what and where | Sep 08 19:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | there are usually 'backchannels' if you are clever and then repetitive about it | Sep 08 19:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and buy in bulk | Sep 08 19:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | we also need to find where to buy suppliss for the fish on the cheap | Sep 08 19:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | prices soared on basic products where we used to get 'generic' products | Sep 08 19:55 |
schestowitz-TR2 | i think the "petm industry" makes a killing atm as people prioritise that sort of stuff | Sep 08 19:55 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 08 19:59 |
schestowitz-TR2 | re earlier issue, you could a dopt a "i don't give a f*" attitude regarding what other people think | Sep 08 20:00 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and then end up targeted as enemy #1 of vbrigades online | Sep 08 20:00 |
schestowitz-TR2 | or you could just focus on other things | Sep 08 20:00 |
Techrights-sec | There is a rumor that RMS has been working on GNU C Language Introduction & Reference Manual. Any way to confirm or debunk that? | Sep 08 20:01 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I put that in TM | Sep 08 20:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | he announced that in the mailing list | Sep 08 20:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but did not say who had comosed this document | Sep 08 20:02 |
schestowitz-TR2 | baib, too many thinbgs in my mind (esp. aunt) | Sep 08 20:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | i put that down in writing to better manage the mental storm | Sep 08 20:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | will poost new like a robot to get by | Sep 08 20:03 |
schestowitz-TR2 | little emotion | Sep 08 20:03 |
Techrights-sec | Nothing at Stallman.org | Sep 08 20:04 |
schestowitz-TR2 | maybe social control media conflates announcing with working on | Sep 08 20:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | that's why I ignore that | Sep 08 20:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I can find you the mailing list archive (xhtml) url again | Sep 08 20:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | but I don't suppose you need it | Sep 08 20:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | I'd better get back to a posting rhythm now | Sep 08 20:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | better than staring at the wall overthinking and speculating | Sep 08 20:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | which I'd rather avoid | Sep 08 20:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | keeping my mind busy with new info makes me happier | Sep 08 20:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | as long as it's not optimised for "engagement" | Sep 08 20:07 |
schestowitz-TR2 | --- | Sep 08 20:09 |
schestowitz-TR2 | cancer treatment is a long process | Sep 08 20:09 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and no "closure" for very many months | Sep 08 20:09 |
schestowitz-TR2 | you never know if it's "over" | Sep 08 20:09 |
schestowitz-TR2 | so expect more travel and visits | Sep 08 20:09 |
schestowitz-TR2 | and tears | Sep 08 20:09 |
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schestowitz-TR2 | <techrights-news> Number of UK Tests for COVID-19 Plunge (But Cases Rise!) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/08/testing-down-sharply/ | Sep 08 23:31 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Number of UK Tests for COVID-19 Plunge (But Cases Rise!) | Sep 08 23:31 |
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