IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, December 08, 2021

http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/irc-log-071221/

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1. I was expecting bugs somewhere in the irc stuff, but have found no bugs so far, tested for 20 mins all in all

Dec 08 08:50

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since 2:30am

Dec 08 08:50

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2/ nhs and epo complaints are good news

Dec 08 08:50

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2: yes very good progress

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1: the translation is still brittle, it'd be nice to do more upstream and then have scripts convert to HTML and

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Gemini at the same time rather than

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converting logs to html and from there to Gemini

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I reckon python3 might not be compatible, but we can always fall back onto 2.x

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python2 is deprecated since long ago

Dec 08 08:53

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ack

Dec 08 08:53

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I will do some more testing later, I have a list

Dec 08 08:53

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ack

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I got the police files on Graveley

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and some dirt on Friedman

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Interesting, if they are authentic

http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/

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Dec 08 09:46

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page 2 of the warrant looks empty

Dec 08 09:46

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then again it is marked "unofficial"

Dec 08 09:46

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wait, there is MOIRE

Dec 08 09:47

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back in a few hours

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schestowitz

partly to self: tomorrow's test 3:30am in irc, see notes below (check in morning, follow links to gmi in blog post); should we also include gmi link to bulletin? gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/08/irc-log-071221/index.gmi would inherit the link if it is included in the www post.

Dec 08 11:16

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leah is looking into gemini again, I think it would help if posts like gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/08/irc-log-071221/index.gmi included a gemini link for the bulletin too, as at the very least it brings us closer to the point of saying, we have web/gemini parity

Dec 08 11:19

leah

i mean

Dec 08 11:19

leah

yeah

Dec 08 11:19

schestowitz

schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/

Dec 08 11:24

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Dec 08 11:24

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Vaccination is Good, But the Current Vaccination Strategy (of Overwhelming Fear/Hysteria) Will Fail to Convince Sceptical People

Dec 08 11:24

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I have today (8:44) push showing a bug fixed, so am copying to main file, we need to watch closely the next few

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days in case

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something breaks quietly

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better to catch bugs early than late

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I will now push some changes for the IRC bot

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Dec 08 12:01

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"Trade/B2B, Consumer"???

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pushed to IRC the irc bot changes, which I dry-tested link by link to lower chances of bugs

Dec 08 12:44

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back

Dec 08 12:45

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yes, I've been checking the published Gemtext and looking for oddnesses and miakes

Dec 08 12:45

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ack

Dec 08 12:45

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I was pleasantly surprised by how fewe bugs and defects in 'deploymemnt' we had

Dec 08 12:55

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because I had anticipated a lot more trouble, though it all worked rather smoothly

Dec 08 12:55

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and now it's all automated for yearsb to come

Dec 08 12:55

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hopefully. too much of it relies on scraping and scraping is brittle. it

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does not adapt to changes in the layout of the source, if they are outside

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certain parameters

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if or when changes are introduced, the code can be tweaked a bit

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btw, meduza is still broken, this was discsused in main irc channel yesterday

schestowitz-TR

i keep getting tons of new info from github; sources and moles and friends of friends can do more damage than "CIEgate"

Dec 08 12:59

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*ICEgate

Dec 08 12:59

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yes, it's too bad they have not fixed their feeds

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M$ did a lot of damage to FOSS with the GitHub acquisition, that was one of

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their goals. Those close enough to the epicenter can get shocked out of the

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foolish projection that M$ had improved or changed in any way for the better.

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nextcloud et al filed a complaint

Dec 08 13:02

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backed even by some microsoft apologists

Dec 08 13:02

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it'll be interesting if NextCloud gets enough traction to make a case. Many

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judges seem to worship bill and or M$ and so might squash it before it starts.

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See how the judges were angry at Schrems for daring to question Facebook.

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M$ is far worse and far more established.

schestowitz-TR

same for epo which the eu is protecting

Dec 08 13:05

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and the dutch and german states too!!!

Dec 08 13:05

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germany seems to be pushing epo the most, and that looks like mostly from

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conflicrs of interest. how much money does the german government skim

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off of the epo?

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law firms, court fees, 7000 high earners spending on homes etc.

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I wonder if there is more direct profit from them.

Dec 08 13:11

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nations, through NPO 'cooperation', receive bribes

Dec 08 13:11

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call it a cartel if you must, or a CROSS-border class warfare thing, with liars/lawyers an d corporastions

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corruption seems high in many EU countries, despite the ability to fill

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out forms saying the opposite

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covering epo means we show the crimes spilling over to other institutions, e.g. wipo, euipo, and NPOs

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yep, and the general graft that people witness or participate in but deny

Dec 08 13:14

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btw, re TM

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I was going to tell you yesterday

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the beat we found most effective is

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rianne takes the lead

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with key stories

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marius does very fast reporting and adds his stories asap

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I am just the pickup guy, assembling the leftovers and picking up missing bits here and there

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of course that generally changes and changed over time

Dec 08 13:16

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as we findn btter ways to run it thinly

Dec 08 13:16

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and if rianne works i take over TM, and vice versa, same for sleep cycles, so we're rarely behind. marius also covers for us when on holiday

Dec 08 13:16

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TMS is just as important as TR, but DIFFERENT

Dec 08 13:17

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ack

Dec 08 13:27

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Excellent coverage

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Dec 08 15:17

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I think we can do to microsoft sand github what we do to EPO

Dec 08 15:19

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GitHub is damaged beyond redemption and would be better shut down. It was

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always proprietary anyway. There are many other better options. The two

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things it had going were heavy marketing and integration with a bug tracker.

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It's more social control media then development software at this point.

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Again, it comes down to a question of control.

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ack

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it's like a big coke vending machine

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we just need to knock it back and forth a few times

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then it will fall over

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transcoding 30-min video, calling for more sources

Dec 08 15:23

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there might be quite a few willing to speak, m$ burned a lot of people in

Dec 08 15:32

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the buyout

Dec 08 15:32

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not just through the result but also the process

Dec 08 15:32

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mumble can come in handy

Dec 08 15:34

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but i suppose when used as "app" on some OSes its privacy is at risk

Dec 08 15:35

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that too

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It gives M$ a complete overview of all project activity for projects still in

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GitHUb

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'BI'

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Regular intel which they presumably use themselves to further their agenda

Dec 08 15:37

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and which they also sell to various governments to know where and how to

Dec 08 15:37

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sabotage FOSS with the least effort and resources.

Dec 08 15:37

schestowitz-TR

it is a lot more than just intel (visibility) as they can censor, ban, manipulate etc./

Dec 08 15:38

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--- a point we MUST regularly raise to remind people

Dec 08 15:38

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it happened before -- it's a power they abuse

Dec 08 15:38

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yep, good point

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A big problem there is that most people don't accept or observe facts, and

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go with what they /wish/ was true instead.

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ok, so we persist and persist

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I'm still young enought to fight on and my temper is OK, so I don't mind a few concessions here and there