●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Tuesday, March 09, 2021 ●● ● Mar 09 [02:06] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [02:06] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [02:06] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by MinceR at Thu Jan 28 18:22:54 2016 [02:06] -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel [02:06] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz_log [02:06] *schestowitz__ (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [02:06] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz__ ● Mar 09 [03:53] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [03:53] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz [03:59] *schestowitz__ has quit (*.net *.split) [03:59] *liberty_box has quit (*.net *.split) ● Mar 09 [04:01] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [04:12] schestowitz Due to a network hiccup here I lost connection for 4 hours on main machine, had to merge in IRC logs from other machines (too a while!) [04:12] schestowitz I also had to restart the pi physically as it failed to re-establish the connection and it is headline [04:12] schestowitz after the reboot most things were OK, IP address was still the same [04:13] schestowitz I restored services for what was needed [04:13] schestowitz However, I examined the daemon for gemini login, both at script and systemd level (service) [04:13] schestowitz I cannot understand why it only writes to file the first bit about starting to log [04:14] schestowitz but then nothing additional is added to that file [04:14] schestowitz no clues in syslog, I think this is the first time we test this service/daemon after a reboot [04:15] schestowitz maybe it's looking for input in a place whose name was changed? Not sure [04:20] schestowitz oh, never mind [04:20] schestowitz it seems to be fixed now [04:21] schestowitz either you did something or me restarting the daemon fixed it ● Mar 09 [06:55] Techrights-sec it was probably restarting as I did not get to it ● Mar 09 [10:12] schestowitz upload late today or forgotten? ● Mar 09 [11:41] schestowitz sorry, my bad, I was looking in the wrong directory [11:43] Techrights-sec today is the 9th? [11:43] Techrights-sec sent 142,591 bytes received 112 bytes 31,711.78 bytes/sec [11:43] Techrights-sec Upload was some hours ago. [11:47] schestowitz I made the same mistake before after losing a connection to "vonick", then inspecting local files instead of remote files (in Dolpin) [11:52] Techrights-sec no worries [11:53] schestowitz Berzmeyer is slurping away at the capsule again, I've gotten two alerts ● Mar 09 [14:06] Techrights-sec thread : https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006001.html [14:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [users] So you have a new capsule. You should let these services know [14:06] schestowitz I linked to that this morning :-) [14:19] Techrights-sec excellent [14:19] Techrights-sec I wonder if there is anything which can be done to further improve the [14:19] Techrights-sec usability of the TR capsule [14:19] schestowitz I thought the same, but gemtext is intentionally limited to discourage that [14:20] Techrights-sec yes, but there still might be some refinements here or there [14:20] Techrights-sec however, keeping it simple probably checks most of the boxes in that [14:20] Techrights-sec regard [14:20] schestowitz Every change in layout or presentation now poses a risk of breaking something in the workflow or scripts, without us even noticing [14:21] schestowitz I'd say, if it grows beyond 1000 unique IPs per day, then it's worth the time (RoI) [14:21] Techrights-sec yes that is the weakness inherent in scraping [14:22] Techrights-sec What's the current rate of visits per day? [14:22] Techrights-sec For a while there was that broken spider running amok. [14:22] schestowitz 3693 total requests and 322 known hosts [14:23] Techrights-sec 300+ per day seems like a good start [14:23] Techrights-sec Gemini will have to grow for that to grow, however [14:24] schestowitz the media won't help us, it's indebted to things like Google for ads and Google doesn't want http alts and it's largely dominated by Google already [14:25] Techrights-sec it's almost hard to call the media 'news' any more. The terms are no longer [14:25] Techrights-sec interchangeable. [14:25] Techrights-sec Lots of propaganda though. [14:25] schestowitz some people I know who used to cover gnu/linux news have vanished or defected to PR/marketing [14:26] schestowitz it's important to "sell" gemini as an escape from the spam and hate machine (social control media) [14:26] Techrights-sec Yes and an escape from the javascript hell/. [14:28] Techrights-sec There are a lot of blind users of Gemini, I gather. [14:28] Techrights-sec The simplicity helps them too. [14:28] Techrights-sec Everyone benefits from the simplicity. [14:28] schestowitz getting the browsers is not always simple [14:31] Techrights-sec The lack of browsers in distro repositories is a bottleneck at the moment. [14:32] schestowitz i could probably fork some of the mainstream ones to be preloaded with techrights, or just branch off them, offer binaries [14:34] schestowitz Amfora is GPL-3.0 License, I suppose I could make the site accessible as kiosk over ssh with amfora [14:35] schestowitz dialog with guest user, linking to amfora