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schestowitz-TRBillBC: COVID-19 is Everywhere Now https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/09/covid-19-is-everywhere/Jul 09 04:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » BillBC: COVID-19 is Everywhere NowJul 09 04:51
Techrights-secapparently in most (all?) countriesJul 09 04:52
schestowitz-TRwe still get sanitiser at all the shops here (and use it)Jul 09 04:53
schestowitz-TRjust because everyone jumps or falls of the bridge does not mean you should tooJul 09 04:53
schestowitz-TR*offJul 09 04:54
Techrights-secfew still wear masks or keep distance any moreJul 09 04:54
schestowitz-TRi did not look scary enough yesterday, so some people walked nearJul 09 04:55
schestowitz-TRI need a Hannibal maskJul 09 04:55
Techrights-secackJul 09 04:55
Techrights-secI will think about the navigation part of the UI for the TM mockupJul 09 04:55
schestowitz-TRat first it can be very simple and crude, then improved over timeJul 09 04:56
schestowitz-TRtuxmachines was a lot simpler when susan handed over to usJul 09 04:56
Techrights-secIt's far easier to get the basics right in the early stagesJul 09 04:57
Techrights-secretrofitting is inefficient, unpleasant, and disruptiveJul 09 04:57
schestowitz-TRhmm, true... esp. with static html filesJul 09 04:57
Techrights-secWell, if the bodies and metadata are stored in a database the static partJul 09 04:59
Techrights-seccan be re-generated at willJul 09 04:59
Techrights-secbut that adds complexity.Jul 09 04:59
Techrights-secIt won't waste most of the current testing scripts thoughJul 09 04:59
schestowitz-TR"modernising" pages that mrely link to external sites is not as impoirtant as speed and uptimeJul 09 05:01
schestowitz-TRthink technocrat or "hacker" "news"Jul 09 05:01
schestowitz-TRwhioch was offline yesterday btwJul 09 05:01
schestowitz-TRaccording to our irc channels (I did not check to verify)Jul 09 05:01
schestowitz-TRupsides: httpsJul 09 05:11
schestowitz-TRbetter mobile (fluid designJul 09 05:11
schestowitz-TRspeedJul 09 05:11
schestowitz-TReasier to maintain and back upJul 09 05:11
schestowitz-TRless bloated (cheaper for kaniini)Jul 09 05:11
Techrights-secackJul 09 05:12
Techrights-secM$ is like a mix of scientology, amway, and herbalife business modelsJul 09 05:12
Techrights-secless bloated is good all the way around, esp kaniiniJul 09 05:12
schestowitz-TRtuxmachines does many sql queries per page servced and drupal caching isn't great, at least not in this version of itJul 09 05:13
schestowitz-TRfor people who read over rss that's OKJul 09 05:13
schestowitz-TRbut search engines can eaily cause load spikesJul 09 05:13
Techrights-secputting the body information and the metadata into an sql database would Jul 09 05:15
Techrights-secnot mean that the database is queried per http request, only once to generateJul 09 05:15
Techrights-seca new static page per pageJul 09 05:15
Techrights-secso static pages would be generated -- once -- from SQL and then save to diskJul 09 05:15
Techrights-secand served as normal static pages w/CSS and suchJul 09 05:15
schestowitz-TRdbs are still fragile, hard to inspect in some cases, longer time to back up, and security overheadJul 09 05:18
Techrights-secyes they areJul 09 05:19
Techrights-secSQLite3 might be ok, it's not networked AFAIKJul 09 05:19
Techrights-seca lock file would be needed though to ensure no concurrent acccess, but Jul 09 05:19
Techrights-secsince the access would be needed /only/ when actually adding a post, that's notJul 09 05:19
Techrights-secso much of an issueJul 09 05:19
schestowitz-TRI will take a nap soonJul 09 05:20
schestowitz-TRthe db is has been holding up OK for over a day without repairsJul 09 05:20
schestowitz-TRbuying us more timeJul 09 05:20
Techrights-secI think I'm starting to lean towards trying SQLite3 a bitJul 09 05:21
Techrights-secackJul 09 05:21
Techrights-secor a tied hash would work too, though that might not scale well and mightJul 09 05:21
Techrights-secbe more fragile.  so never mindJul 09 05:21
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schestowitz-TRlol, need popcornJul 09 05:30
schestowitz-TRmusk and twitterJul 09 05:30
schestowitz-TRtons of free pblicityJul 09 05:30
schestowitz-TRnot a dime spentJul 09 05:30
schestowitz-TRand now twitter ie xposed for the botfarm it isJul 09 05:30
schestowitz-TRgoodJul 09 05:30
schestowitz-TRbtw, some shop here had popcorn on sale with 10p label on itJul 09 05:30
schestowitz-TRbut would not be available, I think the cashier kept it aside for himselfJul 09 05:30
schestowitz-TRor maybe a day past expirationJul 09 05:30
Techrights-secyes I hope that twitter collapses as a result of all thisJul 09 05:32
schestowitz-TRi hope so tooJul 09 05:33
schestowitz-TRthe fraud got a ton of free pubblicity from thisJul 09 05:33
schestowitz-TRand harmed a company I never liked anywayJul 09 05:33
schestowitz-TRnotice the "news" now places emphasis on twitter being a botfarmJul 09 05:33
schestowitz-TRwhich IS ISJul 09 05:33
schestowitz-TR*IT ISJul 09 05:34
schestowitz-TRI said it for agesJul 09 05:34
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schestowitz-TRoh, no automated links at all todayJul 09 05:45
schestowitz-TRsomething went wrongJul 09 05:45
Techrights-secok checkingJul 09 05:46
Techrights-sectypo: missing a single charJul 09 05:46
Techrights-secrerunningJul 09 05:46
Techrights-secmay take a few minutesJul 09 05:46
Techrights-secuploaded, check nowJul 09 05:46
schestowitz-TRthnaks,Jul 09 05:47
schestowitz-TRwill refetch when done with this one, will then ignore completely the first sectiion, which I've just "finished"Jul 09 05:47
schestowitz-TRi think musk shaved off several years from twitter's life expenctancyJul 09 05:47
schestowitz-TRmaybe it'll get bought cheaply by some other survillance company with ambitions to manipulateJul 09 05:47
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schestowitz-TRscanning tuxmachines db...Jul 09 05:58
schestowitz-TRdone, it was search-related onlyJul 09 05:58
Techrights-sectoo many public officals misuse twitter and feed it by using it for announcements instead of sticking to official channels.  They only feed the disinformationJul 09 05:58
Techrights-secproblem and reduce their own credibility by doing so.Jul 09 05:58
schestowitz-TRmany political actors built their "reputation" with "successful" tweet  Jul 09 06:00
schestowitz-TRthe most famous one was banned in January last yearJul 09 06:00
Techrights-secackJul 09 06:00
Techrights-secand twitter calls the shots, choosing winners and losers in the publicity gameJul 09 06:00
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Techrights-secrenamed the document root on the mockup in preparation for a second round Jul 09 10:00
Techrights-secof experiments later todayJul 09 10:00
Techrights-sec        Jul 09 10:00
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schestowitz-TRback from sleepJul 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRyes, that would be goodJul 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRI noticed Bill's Pro Publica has not been active in recent yearsJul 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRand wonder what's going onJul 09 10:12
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Microsoft lobbyists infecting techdirt and others: "narrative over the past few years is that four companies — Facebook, Apple, Amazon, and Google — have basically..." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/08/if-its-impossible-to-compete-with-google-how-come-new-search-engines-keep-launching/ | Source: TechdirtJul 09 11:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-If It’s Impossible To Compete With Google, How Come New Search Engines Keep Launching? | TechdirtJul 09 11:10
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schestowitz-TRohaJul 09 12:37
schestowitz-TRnew leaks (epo)Jul 09 12:37
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft squirming over our github series, got contact from lawyer, NOT threatening, more like hovsepianJul 09 12:37
schestowitz-TROTAJul 09 12:37
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schestowitz-TRjust got more leaks re githubJul 09 13:44
schestowitz-TRadded draft for first videoJul 09 13:44
schestowitz-TRwill record sanotherJul 09 13:44
schestowitz-TRvideoJul 09 13:44
schestowitz-TROTAJul 09 13:44
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Techrights-secthe phoronix article about Lennart moving to M$ has no second source verifyingJul 09 16:03
Techrights-secthe rumor; also, as expected, the phoronix comments are a waste of space withJul 09 16:03
Techrights-secmany M$ apologists and shills pumping out talking points and ad hominemsJul 09 16:03
Techrights-secs/talking points/debunked talking points/Jul 09 16:03
schestowitz-TRwaitJul 09 16:03
schestowitz-TRthe ones i sawJul 09 16:03
schestowitz-TRwhen it was 14Jul 09 16:03
schestowitz-TR\weere okJul 09 16:03
schestowitz-TRwherreJul 09 16:03
schestowitz-TReatingJul 09 16:03
schestowitz-TRmaybe infested latedJul 09 16:03
schestowitz-TR160+ comments whebn i scrolled laterJul 09 16:03
schestowitz-TRre github publication, i wa asked to delay puyblicationJul 09 16:03
schestowitz-TRbut we have some good stuff comingJul 09 16:03
schestowitz-TRi am now editing text for second epo videoJul 09 16:03
Techrights-secyes they are much further downJul 09 16:04
schestowitz-TRthe comments are sorted or 'ranked' based on timeJul 09 16:06
schestowitz-TRso the PR brigade would have better luck in /.Jul 09 16:06
schestowitz-TRwhere you can game the order of appearanceJul 09 16:06
schestowitz-TRmichael is underestimating the power of astroturfsJul 09 16:06
schestowitz-TRand is bagging bribesJul 09 16:06
schestowitz-TRhe might niot even recognise them as suchJul 09 16:06
schestowitz-TRbiabJul 09 16:06
schestowitz-TRwant to finish this draftJul 09 16:06
schestowitz-TRthen record third video re github proxy in gemini \0/Jul 09 16:06
schestowitz-TRat long lastJul 09 16:06
schestowitz-TRdraft in placeJul 09 16:16
schestowitz-TRwe have some good stories comingJul 09 16:16
schestowitz-TRI've prodded kaniini by mentioning our progressJul 09 16:16
Techrights-seccheckingJul 09 16:39
Techrights-seccan the text have some details as examples of the problems?Jul 09 16:39
Techrights-secDo you think the post summaries (dc.description) can each be shoehorned intoJul 09 16:39
Techrights-secless than 256 characters?  Or will the field need to be longer?Jul 09 16:39
Techrights-sec256 is the limit for varchar in sqlite3.  The next size up would be a blobJul 09 16:39
Techrights-sec^for TuxMachinesJul 09 16:39
Techrights-secaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaJul 09 16:39
Techrights-secaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaJul 09 16:39
Techrights-secthat's 256 characters, just over three linesJul 09 16:39
schestowitz-TRbackJul 09 16:39
schestowitz-TRat the moment drupal 6 is configured for titles to be non-unicode, non-html string about this long, unlike the bodyJul 09 16:39
Techrights-secthe body is a different matter, I'm wondering about the description specificallyJul 09 16:40
Techrights-secat the moment.  The title and keywords will be shorter.  I can do a quick runJul 09 16:40
Techrights-secthrough the Gemini titles and find an average size, I think,Jul 09 16:40
schestowitz-TRTR titles aren never very very longJul 09 16:41
schestowitz-TRTM does not have summaries, just title and bodyJul 09 16:41
schestowitz-TRfor new storiesJul 09 16:41
Techrights-secok what about TMJul 09 16:41
Techrights-sec?Jul 09 16:41
Techrights-sechowever, instead of title, what length should be reserved for the description?Jul 09 16:41
Techrights-secshould a description be arranged?  What is the average size of the bodies?Jul 09 16:44
Techrights-sechttps://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_meta.aspJul 09 16:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.w3schools.com | HTML meta tagJul 09 16:44
Techrights-sechttps://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2731.txtJul 09 16:45
Techrights-secThe RSS / Atom feed can be just the title IMHO, that keeps it simpleJul 09 16:45
Techrights-secpeople can click on the link if they want moreJul 09 16:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ietf.org | A DirgeJul 09 16:45
schestowitz-TRmaybe an abbreviated version of the bodyJul 09 16:46
schestowitz-TRthat's what wordpress does for rss at leastJul 09 16:46
schestowitz-TRif not full body rss feedJul 09 16:46
schestowitz-TRyes, that's fine too as the site will be fast anywayJul 09 16:46
schestowitz-TRadded 5 links to the post for contextJul 09 17:07
schestowitz-TRwill record i n a few minsJul 09 17:07
schestowitz-TRre gemini as proxy for shithub pagesJul 09 17:07
Techrights-secthanksJul 09 17:07
schestowitz-TRi've searched searx without successJul 09 18:00
schestowitz-TRon HR tricksJul 09 18:00
schestowitz-TRI know how notorious HR is... from the EPOJul 09 18:00
schestowitz-TRRegarding separation fees, I think I see a tactic of theirsJul 09 18:01
schestowitz-TRbut all I can see is fake 'articles' about social control media BSJul 09 18:01
schestowitz-TRI guess this is what qualifies as "journalism" nowJul 09 18:01
schestowitz-TRif I managed to get dismissed, according to an online calculator, and if it's not discriminatory, I can receive Jul 09 18:01
schestowitz-TR17,500 in compensation for the 11+ yearsJul 09 18:01
schestowitz-TRit's more if discrimation can be provenJul 09 18:01
schestowitz-TRthe employe is aware, their HR people try to play tricks, which I've not fallen forJul 09 18:01
schestowitz-TRso if you know some HR-fluent person, that can help me net a lot of moneyJul 09 18:01
schestowitz-TRon my way outJul 09 18:01
schestowitz-TRit says if after age 41, it's another 2kJul 09 18:03
schestowitz-TRif discriminatory on minor basis, 600-6000 moreJul 09 18:03
Techrights-secbackJul 09 18:04
Techrights-secno one I can think of at the moment but watch out for various NDAs and Jul 09 18:04
Techrights-secnon-disparagement clauses and other muzzles as well as for non-competesJul 09 18:04
Techrights-secThey throw everything in.  If everything is on paper, in some jurisdictionsJul 09 18:04
Techrights-secyou can cross out the offending clauses, senteces, or paragraphs.  In electronicJul 09 18:04
Techrights-secform you can try tricking them by getting the electronic copy, editing it, andJul 09 18:04
Techrights-secthen signing the edited copy and see if they notice.Jul 09 18:04
Techrights-secSeverance bonus  Jul 09 18:04
Techrights-sectoo bad the union cannot help out in this case :/Jul 09 18:04
Techrights-secmaybe not too late to join thoughJul 09 18:04
schestowitz-TRlast year I had concerns that if I left, they'd punish rianne tooJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRbut now she can stay while I take a hikeJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRafter I had brought her inJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRI can try to be evasive or absentJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRto reduce chance of getting trickedJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRand make records of everythingJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRUK-specific HR so-called 'consultants' would not be cheapJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRseeing how much money is at stake, no wonder they contracted "HR" from the outsideJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRand they memorise what to say and howJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRsome law firms here could be 'trick' into giving free adviceJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRbut none is needed at this pointJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRthe goal is to bag what I'm entitled to and retireJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRthe pension ripens when I turn 55Jul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRok, recording re github nowJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TROTAJul 09 18:10
Techrights-secackJul 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRdraftJul 09 18:44
Techrights-seccheckingJul 09 18:44
Techrights-secNice to use a Gemini source.  Might want to close with a paragraph about whereJul 09 18:44
Techrights-secto get Gemini clients for GNU/Linux or *BSDJul 09 18:44
schestowitz-TRsure, I'll add more after cofffe (video will take another 20 mins to process+upload)Jul 09 18:50
schestowitz-TRgemini is getting super-usefulJul 09 18:50
Techrights-secalso the SFLC or some such had a long article encouraging people to drop GitHubJul 09 18:50
Techrights-secalreadyJul 09 18:50
Techrights-secI'm not sure if you wish to send them traffic, but if you do, that's the articleJul 09 18:50
Techrights-secs/SFLC/SFC/ Jul 09 18:50
Techrights-secI get them mixed upJul 09 18:50
Techrights-sechttps://sfconservancy.org/blog/2022/jun/30/give-up-github-launch/Jul 09 18:50
Techrights-secRegardless of past problems, their in-house decision to drop GitHub should beJul 09 18:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sfconservancy.org | Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come! - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom ConservancyJul 09 18:50
Techrights-secpraised even if no traffic is pointed their direction.Jul 09 18:50
Techrights-sechttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/07/03/1449204Jul 09 18:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come! - SoylentNewsJul 09 18:50
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schestowitz"Social networks are not good for you. The Fediverse brought out the worst in me, and it can bring out the worst in you, too. The behaviors it encourages are plainly defined as harassment, a behavior which is not unique to any ideological condition."Jul 09 22:49
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167034Jul 09 22:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | The Fediverse can be pretty toxic | Tux MachinesJul 09 22:49
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Only 3% of COVID-19 Hospital Admission in England Are Under 18s, 0.02% of Deaths Are Toddlers https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/09/hospital-admission-stats/Jul 09 23:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Only 3% of COVID-19 Hospital Admission in England Are Under 18s, 0.02% of Deaths Are ToddlersJul 09 23:12
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