●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 09, 2022 ●● ● Oct 09 [01:53] *chunky has quit (connection closed) [01:55] *chunky (~chunky@wa5c3nj9mkua2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 09 [03:24] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) ● Oct 09 [04:10] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pupsf4x2uvcgu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 09 [06:03] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [06:03] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:17] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 09 [08:00] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:00] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pupsf4x2uvcgu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:05] schestowitz-TR hahaha... [08:05] schestowitz-TR so after posting like 100k posts in mastodon.technology for tuxmachines it is shutting down [08:05] schestowitz-TR told you it's a bubble [08:05] schestowitz-TR so everything I posted, even the comments, POOF! [08:11] Techrights-sec ack [08:11] Techrights-sec https://ashfurrow.com/blog/mastodon-technology-shutdown/ [08:11] Techrights-sec "By November 1, 2022, the instance will be put into a readonly mode ..." [08:11] Techrights-sec There will be until 1 Dec to migrate data. [08:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ashfurrow.com | mastodon.technology Shutdown | Ash Furrow [08:12] schestowitz-TR migration probably won't even work ;-) [08:23] Techrights-sec https://yewtu.be/latest_version?id=sLimmpZWRNI [08:23] Techrights-sec about 17 minutes in he grumbles mildly about corporatism [08:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 429 @ https://yewtu.be/latest_version?id=sLimmpZWRNI ) [08:24] Techrights-sec (from the post earlier) [08:24] schestowitz-TR I watched thw ehole thing [08:36] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:36] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [08:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:45] schestowitz-TR interesting: [08:45] schestowitz-TR at around 3am the log for apache on techrights got rotated [08:45] schestowitz-TR but apache is still writing to the old file handle [08:45] schestowitz-TR i.e. the one with date at the end [08:45] schestowitz-TR I cannot recall this every happening ebfore [08:45] schestowitz-TR we need some arhiving page, like daily index [08:45] schestowitz-TR I'm going to restart apache [08:46] Techrights-sec :( [08:46] Techrights-sec I hadn't seen that before either. [08:46] Techrights-sec I was recently thinking about the possible migration next year and what needs [08:46] Techrights-sec to be rewritten first. [08:46] Techrights-sec Probably the best aproache [08:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Oct 09 [09:05] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:10] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.14 [SeaMonkey 2.53.14/20221003001100]) [09:21] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 09 [10:14] schestowitz-TR Lady models, Chinese, as the new clickbait for ZDNet 'Linux' stories? https://www.zdnet.com/topic/linux/ totally off topic, one seems like clinician [10:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Linux | ZDNET ● Oct 09 [11:04] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@htpuvr4cww4eq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:18] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.14 [SeaMonkey 2.53.14/20221003001100]) [11:20] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:27] Techrights-sec No idea. Those must be stock photos. ####################################### [11:56] schestowitz-TR "The text of the letter is helpful because (to my eyes, at least) it makes clearmuch more clear than the news articles about itthat Musk is seeking an adjournment of the trial and his upcoming deposition without actually promising anything new or giving up anything at all." [11:57] schestowitz-TR diaspora: collapsing [11:57] schestowitz-TR FB: collapsing FAST (found some links) [11:57] schestowitz-TR Twitter: at mercy of frauds [11:57] schestowitz-TR Mastodon: going nowhere fast ● Oct 09 [12:06] Techrights-sec ack ● Oct 09 [13:36] schestowitz-TR draft [13:36] schestowitz-TR adding a part about blogs now. [13:36] Techrights-sec checking [13:36] Techrights-sec probably ought to mention the relevant of self-hosting one's own blog. There are a *lot* of options from simple to complex, from doing it all yourself to [13:36] Techrights-sec outsourcing larger components. Renting a domain name from a registrar is [13:36] Techrights-sec not that large an annual cost, or at least I hope it is not. [13:36] Techrights-sec well put ● Oct 09 [14:10] *psydroid2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:10] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:17] schestowitz-TR you stand to lose the least [14:17] schestowitz-TR people who never spent an iota of their time on those platforms [14:17] schestowitz-TR but to be fair, they did have some benefits ages ago [14:17] schestowitz-TR their mission and their UI was different once upon a time [14:19] Techrights-sec ack [14:19] Techrights-sec Twitter, especially, seemed a dumb idea from day one. However for mass [14:19] Techrights-sec manipulation of behavior and opinion Bytedance is worst. [14:20] schestowitz-TR i wonder what it looks like and how it works [14:20] schestowitz-TR I'll try to find a video that explains this to me [14:32] schestowitz-TR watching a video I will share with you atm [14:32] schestowitz-TR it's decent [14:32] schestowitz-TR n https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kw_nY-tMuHE [14:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | TikTok is Destroying a Generation - Invidious [14:33] Techrights-sec It's a major [14:33] Techrights-sec surveillance / espionage company but dabbles in propaganda and opinino [14:33] Techrights-sec modification. AFAIK Palantir and Team Cymru are just espionage. ByteDance [14:33] Techrights-sec has a strong grip on Gen Z's behaviors, values, mores, and ethics -- or [14:33] Techrights-sec splitting of those from *all* previous generations [14:33] Techrights-sec They all work more or less the same, though addictive interfaces and [14:33] Techrights-sec reinforcement of specific behaviors while squelching other behaviors. [14:33] Techrights-sec See the fairly recent articles about 'phones' as skinner boxes [14:33] Techrights-sec checking [14:39] Techrights-sec https://odysee.com/@UpperEchelonGamers:3/tiktok-is-destroying-a-generation:7 [14:39] Techrights-sec "a viral form of societal poison and it is well on its way to destroying a [14:39] Techrights-sec generation" [14:39] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | TikTok is Destroying a Generation [14:58] schestowitz-TR Tik-Tok seems like a Bill Gates platform https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qbv-VteX5H8 [14:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | TikTok is Poisoning Society - Invidious [14:58] Techrights-sec "spending more time on social media than eating or drinking combined on a [14:58] Techrights-sec day to day basis" [14:58] Techrights-sec I'd say further that the number of contact hours spent with social control [14:58] Techrights-sec media far exceeds the contact hours spent with friends+family per day. [14:58] Techrights-sec Even worse, the algorithms are laser-focused on the one individual and their [14:58] Techrights-sec behavior and resistent to pushback of any kind. With people, there is some [14:59] Techrights-sec give and take in the interactions. With social control media, it is a one-way [14:59] Techrights-sec street. [14:59] Techrights-sec From day one, Tiktok, has targeted children. Now, as a domain name it is [14:59] Techrights-sec more common than Google, from a DNS usage perspective. [14:59] Techrights-sec an "hour or two" is a bad estimate more like three to six hours per day [14:59] Techrights-sec A people behind the great firewall of China even allowed to view TikTok? [14:59] Techrights-sec If not, then it could be considered a tool for offense. [14:59] Techrights-sec https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/tiktok-dethrones-google-as-this-years-most-popular-domain/ [14:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-TikTok dethrones Google as this year's most popular domain - CNET ● Oct 09 [15:00] schestowitz-TR the point about whether china uses tiktok inwards, outwards, or both is worthy an inquiry [15:00] schestowitz-TR after those two videos I have a beter grasp of what tiktok is from a user's POV [15:00] schestowitz-TR it's not "just an app" [15:00] schestowitz-TR I thought it was just like scrolling, infinite scrolling, short videos on a "phone" [15:07] schestowitz-TR these gross things sometimes make me wonder if computing in general was a Bad Idea [15:07] schestowitz-TR but computers are a general concept [15:07] schestowitz-TR computers > internet > web > social [sic] media [15:07] schestowitz-TR and then computers can be split into form factors [15:07] schestowitz-TR the net effect is a sadder society that works harder in spite of supposed automation [15:07] schestowitz-TR never mind health effect (sedentary lifestyle) [15:08] Techrights-sec Computing but loss of control. The person in front of the keyboard out to [15:08] Techrights-sec have remained in charge, as per RMS' vision. However, spineless worms let [15:08] Techrights-sec "Freedoms" get whittled away year after year. [15:08] Techrights-sec They don't work harder, but only longer and less productively. :/ [15:08] schestowitz-TR "only longer and less productively." = still working harder [15:11] Techrights-sec Automation has been abused to control people rather than as a force multiplier. [15:11] Techrights-sec Contrast what we have now with what was envisioned 30+ years ago: [15:11] Techrights-sec https://medium.learningbyshipping.com/bicycle-121262546097 [15:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-medium.learningbyshipping.com | Bicycle for the Mind. When we invented the personal | by Steven Sinofsky | Learning By Shipping [15:46] schestowitz-TR going for a troll around the stadium.. [15:46] schestowitz-TR back [15:46] schestowitz-TR found some good things out there [15:47] schestowitz-TR *stroll [15:51] schestowitz-TR I think I have a better grasp now of what people do on the Net [15:51] schestowitz-TR aside from DRMovies etc. [15:51] schestowitz-TR it's not www and not even reading, it's just software withh transport layer [15:54] schestowitz-TR --- [15:54] schestowitz-TR the fonts in the 1980s were awful [15:54] schestowitz-TR maybe this was photoshop on expensive macs [15:54] schestowitz-TR I remember this PC design with the floppy slots, usually two of them for copying [15:58] schestowitz-TR --- [15:58] schestowitz-TR there is room for satire about what "computing" (or "net") became [15:58] schestowitz-TR but reality is having more shock value than satire [15:58] schestowitz-TR I saw in full those two videos [15:58] schestowitz-TR and they did help me see some portions of the "site" tiktok [15:58] schestowitz-TR it reselbles some things from 20 years ago [15:58] schestowitz-TR but with higher b/w [15:59] schestowitz-TR I hope this is now where escapees are moving [15:59] schestowitz-TR if they recognise that social control media is fruitless [15:59] schestowitz-TR and meaningless [15:59] schestowitz-TR but I'm still digesting it [15:59] schestowitz-TR I hardly see or speak to any young kids, like nephews and nieces [15:59] schestowitz-TR they seem antisocial to me [15:59] schestowitz-TR rianne did use some crap things before, but she stopped ● Oct 09 [16:07] schestowitz-TR New [computation] system predicts how to prevent wildfires https://www.aalto.fi/en/news/new-ai-system-predicts-how-to-prevent-wildfires [16:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.aalto.fi | New AI system predicts how to prevent wildfires | Aalto University [16:10] Techrights-sec Yes, DT had a similar comment about his nieces and nephews being *very* [16:10] Techrights-sec anti-social and app-addicted. [16:12] schestowitz-TR oh, shit, I should really watch his video now that it's Sunday [16:12] schestowitz-TR I never got around to it [16:12] schestowitz-TR he did speak a few years ago about fatigue and going offline [16:12] schestowitz-TR his publication style is difficult as he goes for for ydays without saying anything and then goes "live" with something "new" [16:12] schestowitz-TR one thing I hated about academic is how long it takes to publish even a short paper [16:16] Techrights-sec This one : https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/students-refuse-to-give-up-phones-in:0 [16:16] Techrights-sec But more on ByteDance: https://odysee.com/@switchedtolinux:0/tiktok-tracking-non-users-2:8 [16:16] Techrights-sec though that guy can be a bit too ranty most of the time [16:16] Techrights-sec The one mistake DT makes in that video is that he asserts that the students [16:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Students Refuse To Give Up Phones In School [16:16] Techrights-sec own their phones. Legally, they probably don't. First, they are probably [16:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | TikTok Tracking Non-Users [16:16] Techrights-sec registered in their parents' names. Second, you don't own any of that stuff [16:16] Techrights-sec any more, but instead only granted a temporary license to use the service (app) [16:16] Techrights-sec while it suits them. Furthermore, many licenses are 20+ 12pt A4 pages long [16:16] Techrights-sec and grant them *ownership* of what's uploaded. Sadly almost none realise [16:16] Techrights-sec that they are uploading let alone realize the legal situation. [16:17] schestowitz-TR uploaders=informants (usually unwittingly) [16:17] schestowitz-TR never socialise with informants [16:17] Techrights-sec In the past, I have tried talking sense into people about the social control [16:17] Techrights-sec media licenses they 'agreed' to, but even when showing them printed paper [16:17] Techrights-sec with highlighting, they usually remain in full denial about it [16:17] *hourram (~hourram@ut468fnnwdfqc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:22] schestowitz-TR endorphines [16:22] schestowitz-TR more powerful than llogical reasoning [16:22] schestowitz-TR 'watching' the videos [16:22] schestowitz-TR I like videos that don't show "too" much [16:22] schestowitz-TR as I can play them in the background [16:22] schestowitz-TR without losing anything alluded to in the words [16:22] schestowitz-TR odysee still fails to work with falkon [16:23] schestowitz-TR bloody crap [16:23] schestowitz-TR they don't even fix it [16:24] Techrights-sec Odysee is poisoned with excessive javascript, entirely unnecessary javasript [16:24] Techrights-sec in principle [16:36] *hourram has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 09 [18:55] schestowitz-TR spent the past 1 hour checking how mastodon handles account migration [18:55] schestowitz-TR all the past posts get lost [18:56] schestowitz-TR but you can get to have an archive of them [18:56] schestowitz-TR that cannot be migrated or imported [18:56] schestowitz-TR and many of the "followers" do not get redirected properlt [18:56] schestowitz-TR nto sure I want to 'bash' them over it [18:56] schestowitz-TR it's still better than how diaspora handles it [18:56] schestowitz-TR anyway, this is just for tuxmachines [18:56] schestowitz-TR moving from someone else's computer to another someone else's computer [18:56] schestowitz-TR is as lousy as that sounds [18:56] Techrights-sec :( [18:56] Techrights-sec that's not much of an advantage. It's better than absolutely nothing but [18:56] Techrights-sec still not much. The lack of followers is anothr bite. [18:57] Techrights-sec ack [18:58] schestowitz-TR MAYBE I will do an article/video aboiutit [18:58] schestowitz-TR having involuntarily 'researched' this matter [18:58] schestowitz-TR but don't want to 'bash' them too much [18:58] schestowitz-TR the task in federated network is not simple [18:58] Techrights-sec Or three: before, during, after archiving/migration ● Oct 09 [21:46] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 09 [22:03] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@j5ewvgmqr9anu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:03] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [22:03] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:03] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@j5ewvgmqr9anu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:39] schestowitz-TR This analysis found there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/09/florida-coronavirus-vaccine-safety/ [22:39] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Authorities in Florida Caution About Correlation Between Some COVID-19 Vaccines and Heart Attacks in Young Males [22:58] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:58] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 09 [23:08] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR: America's Russia? 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