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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/1192679143172820998Nov 09 00:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jsalsman: @schestowitz @leoniehaimson @BillGates @Benioff @pierre It's weird that so many stories about how billionaires avoi… https://t.co/49zW5wUGDtNov 09 00:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jsalsman: @schestowitz @leoniehaimson @BillGates @Benioff @pierre It's weird that so many stories about how billionaires avoi… https://t.co/49zW5wUGDtNov 09 00:48
schestowitz"Nov 09 00:48
schestowitzData Extraction - Office hour people didn't respond to Des. Have a look at the ticket.Nov 09 00:48
schestowitzSimon should have look at the ticket. They have asked for DBA specifically....Nov 09 00:48
schestowitz'Nov 09 00:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Eduarda97989721/status/1192939037306359808Nov 09 01:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Eduarda97989721: @schestowitz @wikileaks The 'Real World' it's we that create him. STAND UP. Change this 'real' to a 'Good Real Worl… https://t.co/1e9YFhZ0LzNov 09 01:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Eduarda97989721: @schestowitz @wikileaks The 'Real World' it's we that create him. STAND UP. Change this 'real' to a 'Good Real Worl… https://t.co/1e9YFhZ0LzNov 09 01:36
schestowitz"Nov 09 01:36
schestowitzThe 'Real World' it's we that create him.Nov 09 01:36
schestowitzSTAND UP.Nov 09 01:36
schestowitzChange this 'real' to a 'Good Real World'.Nov 09 01:36
schestowitzBe AWARE.Nov 09 01:36
schestowitzPut Others AWARE.Nov 09 01:36
schestowitzWhat #Assange/Us all need, is to STAND UP and SPREAD the Real News.Nov 09 01:36
schestowitzUNITED NOT DIVIDED.Nov 09 01:36
schestowitzYou, Me, All.Nov 09 01:36
schestowitz"Nov 09 01:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/trolltrip/status/1192908435932827649Nov 09 01:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@trolltrip: @schestowitz Not a word-by-word translation of that four page interview. Yet I hope not to have put anything wrong into anybody's mouth.Nov 09 01:41
schestowitzI will write about this later, thanks!Nov 09 01:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/peced/status/1192844504426012674 https://twitter.com/peced/status/1192844504426012674Nov 09 02:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@peced: @schestowitz The sign is counterproductive unless it's established that she's gonna be primaried.Nov 09 02:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1192987340177731584Nov 09 02:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz They’re basically a totalitarian regime with a software problem.Nov 09 02:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1192995272671940608Nov 09 02:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz Or because their livelihoods are entrenched with the industry taxed with band-aiding the trillions of… https://t.co/939teO0YteNov 09 02:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz Or because their livelihoods are entrenched with the industry taxed with band-aiding the trillions of… https://t.co/939teO0YteNov 09 02:50
schestowitz"Or because their livelihoods are entrenched with the industry taxed with band-aiding the trillions of dollars worth of problems created by their products every year."Nov 09 02:50
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9olpQKM5GT1SKVGF1MNov 09 03:40
schestowitz"Nov 09 03:40
schestowitzeven in early 2000s Microsoft were that deeply embedded in Munich that they got free advertising on the public service broadcaster BR as part of the "Laptop und Lederhosen" culture Bayern was trying to promote since the late 1990s...Nov 09 03:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 09 03:40
schestowitzhttps://social.tchncs.de/@vfrmedia/99746224450666072Nov 09 03:40
schestowitz"Nov 09 03:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-social.tchncs.de | Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK: "Last night at some strange hour I decided to watc…" - MastodonNov 09 03:40
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9olrQvYx7yNNdRh64uNov 09 03:41
schestowitzwhat is this mumble?Nov 09 03:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 09 03:41
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oltkoXf8l2vYohX72Nov 09 03:41
schestowitz"Nov 09 03:42
schestowitzAn RSS feed the Plasma Mobile blog:Nov 09 03:42
schestowitzhttps://www.plasma-mobile.org/feed.xmlNov 09 03:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 09 03:42
schestowitz"Nov 09 03:42
schestowitzisn't the whole of it already in planet kde?Nov 09 03:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/iRadioTube/status/1193008381428207616Nov 09 03:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@iRadioTube: @arunindy Why did Haitians burn the gifts that Gates sent them from Monsanto?, @LizMair This is only one example o… https://t.co/twZfbONL0XNov 09 03:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@iRadioTube: @arunindy Why did Haitians burn the gifts that Gates sent them from Monsanto?, @LizMair This is only one example o… https://t.co/twZfbONL0XNov 09 03:51
schestowitz"Why did Haitians burn the gifts that Gates sent them from Monsanto?, @LizMair  This is only one example of Gates Foundation dystopian charity."Nov 09 03:51
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16461558#bfb0e5f0e4db01371e837a163ef10931Nov 09 05:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How I feel about people who truly believe #biden is "the answer" to #trump https://www.businessinsider.com/julian-assange-2016-election-cholera-gonorrhea-2016-7 Nov 09 05:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.businessinsider.com | Julian Assange 2016 election cholera gonorrhea - Business InsiderNov 09 05:38
schestowitz"Nov 09 05:39
schestowitzBiden is a milder disease.Nov 09 05:39
schestowitz **joeNov 09 05:39
schestowitz**joe - 43 minutes ago Nov 09 05:39
schestowitzBiden is more right-wing than Clinton, but Bloomberg is more right-wing than any of them (and they’re all to the left of Adolph trump. Those who hoped he would inspire a left-wing backlash may be in for an unpleasant surprise.Nov 09 05:39
schestowitzThanks for reminding us that Assange played the false equivalence card, even as he actively opposed only the Democrat.Nov 09 05:39
schestowitzIt seems you haven’t learned a thing since then, either, Dr. Roy. (But I think I already knew that.)Nov 09 05:39
schestowitz tomgrzNov 09 05:39
schestowitztomgrz - 39 minutes ago Nov 09 05:39
schestowitzBiden keeps his policies to himself. ;-)Nov 09 05:39
schestowitz tomgrzNov 09 05:39
schestowitztomgrz - 33 minutes ago Nov 09 05:39
schestowitzI myself could never bring myself to vote for Hillary Clinton. I voted for Jill Stein. Of course I could never vote for Trump either…Nov 09 05:39
schestowitzSome Democrats have “explained” to me that I must submit my individual moral judgement for the good of others. But that would mean negating my judgment for someone else’s, which would kind of defeat my entire framework…Nov 09 05:39
schestowitz tomgrzNov 09 05:39
schestowitztomgrz - 31 minutes ago Nov 09 05:39
schestowitzYeah, I’m not a lesser-evil selector. It seems too hypothetical and just plain wrong.Nov 09 05:39
schestowitz"Nov 09 05:39
schestowitzThere's still time to stop terrible D candidate that cannot even  beat criminals who admit groping womenNov 09 05:40
schestowitzThere's still time to stop terrible D candidates that cannot even  beat criminals who admit groping womenNov 09 05:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16453065#daba9ee0e4df01377471002590d8e506Nov 09 05:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Even #microsoft's OWN employees, the few who have MORALS, have QUIT the company over the #concentrationcamps Microsoft helps build for #trump But #linuxfoundation ? No! Microsoft is a PUPPY!! http://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20110408_chief_says_victory_of_linux/Nov 09 05:42
schestowitz"Nov 09 05:42
schestowitzso bill gates kicks puppies then: https://www.smartcompany.com.au/technology/emerging-technology/bill-gates-criticises-microsoft-s-lack-of-innovation-and-smartphone-strategy-on-national-tv/Nov 09 05:42
schestowitzand since bill gates works for microsoft, and jim zemlin says that criticising microsoft is like kicking a puppy (a pretty harsh critique if you ask me) then jim zemlin kicks puppies too.Nov 09 05:42
schestowitzNov 09 05:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> gigazine.net | Bashing Microsoft is "a poor act of kicking a puppy" and a executive of Linux Foundation provocative remarks - GIGAZINENov 09 05:42
schestowitzWill Hill - 12 minutes ago Nov 09 05:42
schestowitzIn the authoritarian mindset, it’s OK for the leader to criticize and punish people in the organization, but not for outsiders or other followers to do the same thing. Authoritarians want a strong leader to solve their problems and like it when the leader is harsh. In their minds, this makes the organization and themselves stronger because power for the leader is power for the organization. Criticism from outside challenges the leader Nov 09 05:42
schestowitzand that is seen as an affront to the organization and unacceptable, even if the challenge is exactly the same. Authoritarian followers don’t have the time or patience to think things through for themselves and blindly get their opinions from leaders who promise them benefits, like Microsoft which promises wealth and power to programmers and administrators. They expect rewards for this. Challenges to their leaders are a threat to that Nov 09 05:42
schestowitzreward and a challenge to their own identity. The threat is especially loathsome when it is valid.Nov 09 05:42
schestowitz"Nov 09 05:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.smartcompany.com.au | Bill Gates criticises Microsoft’s lack of innovation and smartphone strategy on national TV - SmartCompanyNov 09 05:42
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16461597#a1afe470e4d90137686b047d7b62795eNov 09 05:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Assuming that: 1) the OEM installs #microsoft #windows FOR YOU 2) you have not (yet) been infected and know how to avoid infection. #gnu #linux is actually in many ways easier and more stable, reliable. https://www.nwfdailynews.com/business/20191108/its-geek-to-me-linux-has-some-advantages-but-is-more-complicated-than-windowsNov 09 05:43
schestowitz"Nov 09 05:43
schestowitzI have to use a Windows machine at work sometimes. I absolutely despise it, the lock-down, the lack of choice. I find GNU/Linux to be more user friendly than Windows. In most cases things just work with no twiddling at all.Nov 09 05:43
schestowitz tomgrzNov 09 05:43
schestowitztomgrz - 44 minutes ago Nov 09 05:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.nwfdailynews.com | IT’S GEEK TO ME: Linux has some advantages, but is more complicated than Windows - Business - Northwest Florida Daily News - Fort Walton Beach, FLNov 09 05:43
schestowitzI was a SAS programmer for a number of years. The only good thing about it was that they had it on Unix. I tried SAS on Windows, and that was a complete nightmare.Nov 09 05:43
schestowitz"Nov 09 05:43
schestowitzWhich unix?Nov 09 05:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16458263#aa7aa0c0e4d001371e917a163ef10931Nov 09 05:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "I am now collecting almost $29,000 on top of what I earn doing my freelance journalism thing." https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/11/07/fighting-words-for-young-workers-from-a-radical-elder/ Nov 09 05:44
schestowitz"Nov 09 05:44
schestowitzI’m a CounterPunch fan! ;-)Nov 09 05:44
schestowitzNov 09 05:44
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 8 hours ago Nov 09 05:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.counterpunch.org | Fighting Words for Young Workers From a Radical Elder - CounterPunch.orgNov 09 05:44
schestowitzI’m a CounterPunch fan!Nov 09 05:44
schestowitzyour opinion doesnt matter, white privilege boy.Nov 09 05:44
schestowitz#theysaiditnotmeNov 09 05:44
schestowitzNov 09 05:44
schestowitztomgrz - about 2 hours ago Nov 09 05:44
schestowitz“White Privilege Boy With Working Class Pretensions”Nov 09 05:44
schestowitz"Nov 09 05:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16354985#79725170dabd013752870cc47a07853cNov 09 05:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #Censorship ☞ #Trump speaks at #HBCU Benedict College as students are asked to stay in dorms https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/10/25/trump-speaks-hbcu-benedict-college-students-asked-stay-dorms/2462497001/ Nov 09 05:46
schestowitz"Nov 09 05:46
schestowitzyou dont go to college to learn to think for yourself, you go to college to hide from people doing public talks.Nov 09 05:46
schestowitzfucking sad. i dont blame them for not going, but who needs to decide for them? these are fucking adults, they can make the decision themselves.Nov 09 05:46
schestowitz"Nov 09 05:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.usatoday.com | Trump speaks at HBCU Benedict College, students asked to stay in dormsNov 09 05:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16059799#1907dd30c0c2013752630cc47a07853cNov 09 05:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I hope all airlines -- not just #thomascook -- will collapse. We did mostly fine before passenger, commercial air travel. We can now do even better with the #internet etc.Nov 09 05:48
schestowitz"Nov 09 05:48
schestowitza very stallman like comment. its mostly a compliment, or neutral.Nov 09 05:48
schestowitzi would rather see airlines used responsibly than simply collapse. sometimes it is necessary to fly across the world. not as much as it used to be, but i dont think the problem with air travel is all or nothing.Nov 09 05:48
schestowitzi dont think i would have ever been able to afford my time in the uk if i had to go by boat. just the cost of eating on board…Nov 09 05:48
schestowitz poet1b@pluspora.comNov 09 05:48
schestowitzpoet1b@pluspora.com - 2 months ago Nov 09 05:48
schestowitzHigh speed rail between major cities would reduce a great deal of flights. Jets are extremely bad for the environment.Nov 09 05:48
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comNov 09 05:48
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 months ago Nov 09 05:48
schestowitzHigh speed rail between major cities would reduce a great deal of flights.Nov 09 05:48
schestowitzindeed, but they do very poorly across oceans. as long as youre not trying to get to another continent, thats great. and quite a few people arent.Nov 09 05:48
schestowitz Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Nov 09 05:48
schestowitzDr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) - 2 months ago Nov 09 05:48
schestowitzIf people fly 12 hours to just sunbathe for 3 days, that’s a lot of emission for something like avariceNov 09 05:48
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comNov 09 05:48
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 months ago Nov 09 05:48
schestowitzand how about if they fly 8 hours for a lifesaving treatment they cant get where they live?Nov 09 05:48
schestowitzhow about my then foreign exchange student girlfriend who grew up in africa and is now a paralegal in the states? (i dont know how that particular career move happened, she was studying sociology.)Nov 09 05:48
schestowitzi mean its not like airlines are just part of the tourism industry.Nov 09 05:48
schestowitz poet1b@pluspora.comNov 09 05:48
schestowitzpoet1b@pluspora.com - 2 months ago Nov 09 05:48
schestowitzFree media, I agree that jets traveling long distances are still needed.Nov 09 05:48
schestowitz"Nov 09 05:48
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9om3hOVeTFqXUlliM4Nov 09 06:19
schestowitz"Nov 09 06:20
schestowitz@schestowitzNov 09 06:20
schestowitzDon't forget "#fascist". They often confuse #popular policies that serve the local people, rather than the #corporations, as fascist.Nov 09 06:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 09 06:20
schestowitzThe definition of fascist is literally the opposite, being the melding of corporations and leaders, but that won't stop them.Nov 09 06:20
schestowitz"Nov 09 06:20
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9om4fAqMPSS4UBxa9gNov 09 06:20
schestowitz"Nov 09 06:20
schestowitzWhat's the gist? Its behind a #js wall.Nov 09 06:20
schestowitzDue to #censorship and narrative control on the major platforms the owning class have been able to shove #Biden down throats of the ignorant.Nov 09 06:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 09 06:20
schestowitzThe only conclusion that can be drawn is the Dems secretly want #Trump to win again.Nov 09 06:20
schestowitzIf only 5% of people voted for #JillStein in 2016. Then she'd have a fair amount of funding during this election.Nov 09 06:20
schestowitz"Nov 09 06:20
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9om50rrxdTuK0e3LsmNov 09 06:20
schestowitz"We cannot go out for a meal anymore - in #Australia, #organic resturants are struggling to keep the doors open."Nov 09 06:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 09 06:20
schestowitzwasn't fascism in Italy the supremacy of the industry?Nov 09 06:21
schestowitzHey Roy @schestowitz, did you take notice of former chief editor Jan Kleinert interviewing former mayor of Munich Christian Ude regarding #Limux and #Microsoft lobbying? Great article, unluckily German language only.Nov 09 06:39
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schestowitz Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)‏ @schestowitz  7h7 hours ago Nov 09 06:39
schestowitzMoreNov 09 06:39
schestowitz Can you sent the gist of it/best part?Nov 09 06:39
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schestowitz Fratercula‏ @trolltrip  6h6 hours ago Nov 09 06:39
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schestowitz I'll try. Despite Microsoft's various attempts of persuasiveness, including personal talks with Balmer and Gates, Ude stuck to the idea of less dependence using FOSS. After Munich administration left with the choice of forced upgrade (= $$$) or no further support from Micro$oft.Nov 09 06:39
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schestowitz Fratercula‏ @trolltrip  6h6 hours ago Nov 09 06:39
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schestowitz Ude mentions having watched a documentary in the last year of similar Micro$oft lobbying attempts allegedly regarding the city of Vienna and the defense ministry of Italy, to curb any development of an alternative, to keep Europe dependant.Nov 09 06:39
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schestowitz Ude cites a "Bayernspiegel" article about #WilhelmHoegner (deceased) with the words "Main focus of attention used to be US software calling home. Unluckily nowadays noncompliant minds like him have disappeared from politics and administration. [..]"Nov 09 06:39
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schestowitz The decision to convert (14.000 PC clients) back to #Microsoft from #Limux until 2020 was a purely political one. #ChristianUde: "There wasn't a single unsolvable technical problem." #MunichNov 09 06:40
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schestowitz Ude states his belief that the political calculus of changing direction [away from FOSS] probably will not bear fruit and closes:Nov 09 06:40
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schestowitz Sooner or later one will ask again:Nov 09 06:40
schestowitzWhy did the independence once fought for got given up?Nov 09 06:40
schestowitzWhy wasn't the potential of higher data security held in higher regards?Nov 09 06:40
schestowitzWhat's the cost of all of this?Nov 09 06:40
schestowitz#Limux #ChristianUdeNov 09 06:40
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schestowitz Fratercula‏ @trolltripNov 09 06:40
schestowitz Follow Follow @trolltripNov 09 06:40
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schestowitzReplying to @trolltrip @schestowitzNov 09 06:40
schestowitzNot a word-by-word translation of that four page interview. Yet I hope not to have put anything wrong into anybody's mouth.Nov 09 06:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/trolltrip/status/1192907705054302208Nov 09 06:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@trolltrip: @schestowitz "[..] what followed is a youth mindlessly prostituting itself on the Internet, passively accepting to… https://t.co/jw32RIXL9iNov 09 06:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@trolltrip: @schestowitz "[..] what followed is a youth mindlessly prostituting itself on the Internet, passively accepting to… https://t.co/jw32RIXL9iNov 09 06:40
schestowitzReplying to @trolltrip @schestowitzNov 09 06:40
schestowitz"[..] what followed is a youth mindlessly prostituting itself on the Internet, passively accepting to get their data robbed from by tax evading megacorps whilst the fate of a rising share of younger people boils down close to poverty."Nov 09 06:40
schestowitzI will write about this later, thanks!Nov 09 06:40
schestowitz"Nov 09 07:06
schestowitzWow. Good info.Nov 09 07:06
schestowitzBTW - I'm finding other privacy-focused companies are being sold/invested in by U.S. companies. This points out why it is so important that we ask companies questions about their ownership and data processing. We cannot simply assume that our favorite privacy services remain unchanged.. https://reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/dpqipq/who_owns_your_favorite_privacy_service_what_if/Nov 09 07:06
schestowitzAnother favorite of mine, Wire, was reportedly sold this summer -- which is strangely curious for reasons I cannot say. I'm looking into it.Nov 09 07:06
schestowitzThere's a PrivacytoolsIO thread on this here: https://forum.privacytools.io/t/wire-swiss-gmbh-is-now-owned-by-a-usa-holding-company/1932/14Nov 09 07:06
schestowitz"Nov 09 07:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Who owns your favorite privacy service? What if it's a pay-per-click ad tracking company -- or even Facebook or Google. We need to ask this -- and more. : privacytoolsIONov 09 07:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-forum.privacytools.io | Wire Swiss GmbH is now owned by a USA holding company? - News - PrivacyTools CommunityNov 09 07:07
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schestowitzRedacted:> Next Saturday I won't be able to send any links unless maybe during theNov 09 08:30
schestowitz> evening.  I will be away xxx and most of xxx in xxxxxx for aNov 09 08:30
schestowitz> language test.  I was able to get a last minute place because of aNov 09 08:30
schestowitz> cancellation.  It is the first step in attempting to apply for xxxx> .  Unfortunately I should not have to take the test because INov 09 08:30
schestowitz> have the academic credentials indicating that it is not necessary, butNov 09 08:30
schestowitz> the bureaucracy is not set up for that any more and the agenciesNov 09 08:30
schestowitz> involved have just a few minutes of phone access per week on certainNov 09 08:30
schestowitz> days.  Others have xxxx in place of e-mail so it is hit or miss whetherNov 09 08:30
schestowitz> the messages and their replies get through at all.  So the path of leastNov 09 08:30
schestowitz> resistance is to fork out the hundreds of Euros for travel and fees andNov 09 08:30
schestowitz> go with the flow.Nov 09 08:31
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/11/can-uk-become-and-stay-member-of-upc.html?showComment=1573243745770#c2659077955155721785Nov 09 11:16
schestowitz"Nov 09 11:16
schestowitzIt is not correct to say that “German ratification has been held up by an esoteric legal challenge to the UPCA in the German constitutional court”. What is esoteric if a citizen complains about the lack of respect of the Constitution of its country in the ratification process of the EPCA? It is not only a question of whether there was the necessary quorum for the ratification, but more fundamental questions have been raised. Nov 09 11:16
schestowitzDo you honestly think that the German Constitutional Court would have requested the President of the Republic not to sign the ratification act if it would have been for some esoteric challenge? For more than two years the proponents of the UPC, especially the British ones, have stated that the FGCC would decide imminently. Nov 09 11:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Can the UK become and stay a member of the UPC? - The IPKatNov 09 11:16
schestowitzNow it is for the beginning of 2020. What established fact or statement authorises this assurance? The GCC publishes a list of cases it intends to decide in the coming year. There is however no obligation whatsoever to abide by it. (Btw I take bets it will be the same before the Boards of Appeal of the EPO). Nov 09 11:16
schestowitzWhen one looks at the situation before the GCC, there are older complaints about the independence of the Boards of Appeal of the EPO. Before deciding on the UPC, it appears logical to decide first about the EPO, as a UP is a patent granted by the EPO. Nov 09 11:17
schestowitzThat Brexit might be a historical mistake is one thing, but the EU paper explains why it is “highly questionable that the UK itself would accept the arrangements of Article 20 and Article 21 for the UPCA which foresee the primacy of EU law and its application…as the end of the jurisdiction of the CJEU in the UK was one of the main intentions of the whole Brexit process”. Nov 09 11:17
schestowitzThe “paper” can be found under the following URL:Nov 09 11:17
schestowitzhttps://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/IDAN/2019/596800/IPOL_IDA(2019)596800_EN.pdfNov 09 11:17
schestowitzWhether Merpel “does not remember “the end of the jurisdiction of the CJEU” being on her Brexit referendum ballot paper” is therefore irrelevant. If the Tories do not reach the majority of seats in Westminster will be clear after December 12th. Any conjecture about this seems premature. Nov 09 11:17
schestowitzIf Brexit was not “all about not applying EU law any more”, what is it then good for? Cat N° 10 has anything in mind but to accept supremacy of EU law. But even if Art 50 is revoked, do you in all honesty think that the other member states will continue allowing the UK to have a special status? You cannot be member of a club and only want to abide by the rules you think are favourable to you, and disregards the other. Nov 09 11:17
schestowitzThe “paper” simply looks at the situation as it is known presently. The paper contains however a heavy mistake. At the end of Point 2.3, the “paper” states that “Power of appeal decisions is taken away from EPO and it’s Boards of Appeal (see above 1.) which loses its quasi monopoly, as it will be a Court and finally the Court of Appeal which will review the decisions of the EPO (objections to granted patents. or refusing an Nov 09 11:17
schestowitzapplication). This is anything but correct. Nov 09 11:17
schestowitzHere again, any straw which swims by is grasped by the UPC proponents, but they fail to convince in many aspects. It is getting tiring to be confronted with such wishful thinking. A corresponding blog has just been published on Kluwer Patent Blog. Nov 09 11:17
schestowitzhttp://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2019/11/07/paper-ep-cjeu-opinion-1-09-doesnt-exclude-non-eu-member-states-from-upc/Nov 09 11:17
schestowitz"Nov 09 11:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Paper EP: CJEU Opinion 1/09 doesn't exclude non-EU member states from UPC - Kluwer Patent BlogNov 09 11:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1192781301830606849Nov 09 12:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @jamie_love Always put your patents in empty shells, so that no "fire back" is possible. This is why OIN is doomed.Nov 09 12:50
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TorstenSchommer/status/1193207232160239616Nov 09 17:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TorstenSchommer: Oh yeah, Microsoft loves Linux 🤨 https://t.co/s6n8KQiqroNov 09 17:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Former Mayor of Munich Explains How Microsoft Hates Linux | TechrightsNov 09 17:03
schestowitz"Nov 09 17:26
schestowitzHi Roy. IMPORTANT. There is a TOTALLY SEPARATE COMPANY called System 1 Group PLC or something like that - formerly BrainJuicer. I don't believe it's related to the U.S. System1.Nov 09 17:26
schestowitzSystem1 is terminology used in marketing, which is why many companies use the term and why there's more than one similar name.Nov 09 17:26
schestowitz4:57 PMNov 09 17:26
schestowitzSystem 1 and System 2: Two Modes of Thinking | Research WorldNov 09 17:26
schestowitzresearchworld.comNov 09 17:26
schestowitzYou should remove and edit that article right away.Nov 09 17:26
schestowitzHere's more on "types of thinking" that most likely influenced the names of these behavioral ad companies: https://researchworld.com/system-1-and-system-2-two-modes-of-thinking/Nov 09 17:26
schestowitzHere's an excerpt from that article:Nov 09 17:26
schestowitz    Our System 1 thinking is automatic, quick, intuitive, emotional and reactiveNov 09 17:26
schestowitz    Our System 2 thinking is conscious, effortful, logical, and deliberateNov 09 17:26
schestowitzSo System 1 thinking sways us emotionally - which is why so many companies, marketers, advertisers go for that. They don't want us to think through things logically and take time because it might cause us to make more rational choices -- and perhaps not spend $.Nov 09 17:26
schestowitzBTW the #Startpagesearch isn't really used. You might be thinking of using Nov 09 17:26
schestowitz@startpagesearchNov 09 17:26
schestowitz to get to the twitter followersNov 09 17:26
schestowitzHope this helpsNov 09 17:26
schestowitz5:02 PMNov 09 17:26
schestowitzRoy, I have to step out, but I hope you see my twitter notes here. Very important to edit your article for accuracy.Nov 09 17:26
schestowitz5:04 PMNov 09 17:26
schestowitzdgot itNov 09 17:26
schestowitzgot itNov 09 17:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.researchworld.com | NO TITLENov 09 17:26
schestowitz5:05 PMNov 09 17:26
schestowitz"Nov 09 17:26
acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9omEWQByyOTv1aXSmONov 09 17:35
acer-box"Nov 09 17:35
acer-boxThing with fascism is that it comes in guise of socialist sounding policies..  Mussolini was in his mind anti corporation and pro people...Nov 09 17:35
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 09 17:35
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acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9omIw93FiyMzD1ycq0Nov 09 17:36
acer-box"Nov 09 17:36
acer-box@schestowitzNov 09 17:36
acer-boxIt can, but anything can be disguised as something else.Nov 09 17:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 09 17:36
acer-boxAlso leaders can become corrupted the longer they are in power. Its why many #democracies have limits on the number of years a leader can serve. Leaders often begin to lose touch.Nov 09 17:36
acer-box#Sortition is another way of avoiding #corruption from long tenures. Its a method from ancient Greece which involves the random selection of people, who vote on #wickedProblems. They're often called #citizensJuries today.Nov 09 17:36
acer-box*next comment*Nov 09 17:36
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acer-box@techboltNov 09 17:36
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 09 17:36
acer-boxToday's #neoliberal, #corporatist class are the true fascists, they embrace #infinityWars (silence = acceptance of violence) @techboltNov 09 17:36
acer-box@schestowitzNov 09 17:36
acer-boxToday's #neoliberal, #corporatist class are the true fascists, they embrace #infinityWars (silence = acceptance of violence) and many more ills. They represent #socialism for the 1% and dog-eat-dog for the rest.Nov 09 17:36
acer-box#cronycap #fascistsAtDesks #lipstickOnPigsNov 09 17:37
acer-box"Nov 09 17:37
acer-box"Only God can save this planet now. And She is not so certain about much of humanity right now."Nov 09 17:38
acer-boxhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1039916943861854208?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1039916943861854208:0:0:0:1039918645224648704Nov 09 17:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Ignoring Climate Catastrophes - CounterPunch.orgNov 09 17:38
acer-boxhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1039941571345563648?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1039941571345563648:0:0:0:1039946053870923776Nov 09 17:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Progressives Care More About Taking the Democratic Party Than Getting Rid of Trump - CounterPunch.orgNov 09 17:39
acer-box"They want a meaningful victory."Nov 09 17:39
schestowitzRe: Parody just for fun> "Softies Oh no"Nov 09 17:42
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:42
schestowitz> A parody of Devo's "Jocko Homo"Nov 09 17:42
schestowitz> License: CC BY 4.0Nov 09 17:42
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:42
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:42
schestowitz> They tell us they love Linux nowNov 09 17:42
schestowitz> Developing our little appsNov 09 17:42
schestowitz> I say it's all a bunch of crapNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Are we not free?Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> We are GithubNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Are we Kali?Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> G-I-T-hubNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> We're MS nowNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Raspberry PiNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> We dev for theseNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Softies Oh noNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Are we not free?Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> We are GithubNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Are we Geany?Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> G-I-T-hubNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Are we not Slitaz?Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> We are GithubNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Codemonkeys in business suitsNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Use MS-Systemd to bootNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Are we not free?Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> We are GithubNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Are we Puppy?Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> G-I-T-hubNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Are we Cinnamon?Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> We are GithubNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Are we not free?Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> G-I-T-hubNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> All our software now comes from this repoNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Like Oh-LohNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> What's Soft on the end and Micro in your repo?Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Soft Oh-noNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:43
schestowitz> Together now, Gates made moneyNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> He used codemonkeys to do itNov 09 17:43
schestowitz> APIs in the courtroomNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> We're all here to use itNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> I can code like a slaveNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Host with Bill GatesNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> I can do what Mastodons doNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Gates made moneyNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Github supplies the glueNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Are we not free?Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> We are GithubNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Is LXDE?Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> We are GithubNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Are we not free?Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> We are GithubNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Is Apache?Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> We are GithubNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Leafpad is free?Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> It is GithubNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Linux Mint's free?Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> It is GithubNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Flatpak is free?Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> It is GithubNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> CPython's free?Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> It is GithubNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> FreeNAS is free!Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> No, it's GithubNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> CPython's free!Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> No, it's GithubNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Redshift is free?Nov 09 17:44
schestowitz> It is GithubNov 09 17:44
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> ScummVM's free?Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> It is GithubNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> But Rust is free!Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> No, it's GithubNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> QEMU's free!Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> No, it's GithubNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Docker is free?Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> It is GithubNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Awesome is free?Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> It is GithubNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> We must repeatNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> G-I-T-hubNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> We must repeatNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> G-I-T-hubNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> We must repeatNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> G-I-T-hubNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> We must repeatNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> G-I-T-hubNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> We must repeatNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> G-I-T-hubNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> We must repeatNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> G-I-T-hubNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> We must repeatNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> G-I-T-hubNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Nov 09 17:45
schestowitz> We must repeatNov 09 17:45
schestowitz> Okay, let's fork!Nov 09 17:45
schestowitzI like it. Did you consider adding a link in the wiki and put a new page with this poetry/song? Just make sure it's entitled parody. You know what RMS gets for such pages when misunderstood.Nov 09 17:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16466214#8ce518f0e54501371e9d7a163ef10931Nov 09 17:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Startpage Shows Sheer Hypocrisy After Selling Out and Betraying #Privacy (Corrected) http://techrights.org/2019/11/09/startpage-hypocrisy/ corrected to remove confusion (two companies with same name)Nov 09 17:49
schestowitz"Nov 09 17:49
schestowitzAny relationship with the Startpage web search engine?Nov 09 17:49
schestowitzhttps://eu.startpage.comNov 09 17:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Startpage Shows Sheer Hypocrisy After Selling Out and Betraying Privacy (Corrected) | TechrightsNov 09 17:49
schestowitz"Nov 09 17:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-eu.startpage.com | Startpage.com - The world's most private search engineNov 09 17:49
schestowitzThat's what it's aboutNov 09 17:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16463012#f4af4090e52c013768e9047d7b62795eNov 09 17:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ #Instagram Will Remove ‘Likes’ From Posts for Some U.S. Users https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-09/instagram-will-remove-likes-from-posts-for-some-u-s-users Nov 09 17:49
schestowitz"You already posted this"Nov 09 17:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bloomberg.com | Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Nov 09 17:49
schestowitzSame URL? Maybe it failed to post the first time?Nov 09 17:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16462921#32fde9a0e511013752550cc47a07853cNov 09 17:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #Mozilla (which lies about its #surveillance as well): ISPs Are Lying About Encrypted #DNS , Should Have #Privacy Practices Investigated https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20191104/07341243314/mozilla-isps-are-lying-about-encrypted-dns-should-have-privacy-practices-investigated.shtml Nov 09 17:50
schestowitz"#NOzilla"Nov 09 17:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techdirt.com | Mozilla: ISPs Are Lying About Encrypted DNS, Should Have Privacy Practices Investigated | TechdirtNov 09 17:50
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16465494#8991ee60e54701371e8d7a163ef10931Nov 09 17:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #Microsoft abuses Palestinians https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/11/08/microsoft-should-not-fund-israeli-spying-on-palestinians/ #israel #newMicrosoft #surveillance Nov 09 17:54
schestowitz"Nov 09 17:54
schestowitz“Microsoft is committed to respecting human rights,” Microsoft Global Human Rights Statement asserts. “We do this by harnessing the beneficial power of technology to help realize and sustain human rights everywhere.”Nov 09 17:54
schestowitzThese people make me sick.Nov 09 17:54
schestowitz"Nov 09 17:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.counterpunch.org | Microsoft Should Not Fund Israeli Spying on Palestinians - CounterPunch.orgNov 09 17:54
schestowitzYou must be good at lying with a straight face to work for these criminals Nov 09 17:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16465499#4075fbf0e54701371e8d7a163ef10931Nov 09 17:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● The Crass Warfare of Billionaires Against Sanders and Warren https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/11/08/the-crass-warfare-of-billionaires-against-sanders-and-warren/ Nov 09 17:54
schestowitz"The Gross Wealth Crass Class"Nov 09 17:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.counterpunch.org | The Crass Warfare of Billionaires Against Sanders and Warren - CounterPunch.orgNov 09 17:54
schestowitzgame of linguisticsNov 09 17:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16465772#8a00fa70e54601371e917a163ef10931Nov 09 17:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● A #SocialistParty in Our Time? https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/11/08/a-socialist-party-in-our-time/ Nov 09 17:55
schestowitz"Nov 09 17:55
schestowitzAfter reviewing the obstacles to turning the Democratic Party into a socialist party, or even one conforming to Bernie Sanders’s vision of an updated version of FDR’s New Deal, Abbot and Guastella lay out a party-surrogate strategy.Nov 09 17:55
schestowitzI’m not too confident this can work. The Democratic Party has had a great deal of experience containing and submerging their left - I think it’s part of their institution now.Nov 09 17:55
schestowitz"Nov 09 17:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.counterpunch.org | A Socialist Party in Our Time? - CounterPunch.orgNov 09 17:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16465494#f242b2a0e54701371e8d7a163ef10931Nov 09 18:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #Microsoft abuses Palestinians https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/11/08/microsoft-should-not-fund-israeli-spying-on-palestinians/ #israel #newMicrosoft #surveillance Nov 09 18:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16465494#f242b2a0e54701371e8d7a163ef10931Nov 09 18:01
schestowitzThrough its venture capital arm M12, Microsoft has reportedly invested $78 million in the Israeli startup company that “uses facial recognition to surveil Palestinians throughout the West Bank, in spite of the tech giant’s public pledge to avoid using the technology if it encroaches on democratic freedoms”.Nov 09 18:01
schestowitzAh, that’s the loophole! Palestinians have no democratic freedoms which to encroach upon. Hardly even human - to the Israelis.Nov 09 18:01
schestowitzNov 09 18:01
schestowitztomgrz - 5 minutes ago Nov 09 18:01
schestowitzYou must be good at lying with a straight face to work for these criminalsNov 09 18:01
schestowitzThese are the high-profile, high-paying jobs.Nov 09 18:01
schestowitz"Nov 09 18:01
schestowitzyes, no contradiction there. Sociopaths get some of the best salaries in today's world.Nov 09 18:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16466214#424894b0e54801371e8d7a163ef10931Nov 09 18:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Startpage Shows Sheer Hypocrisy After Selling Out and Betraying #Privacy (Corrected) http://techrights.org/2019/11/09/startpage-hypocrisy/ corrected to remove confusion (two companies with same name)Nov 09 18:01
schestowitz"Nov 09 18:01
schestowitzNov 09 18:01
schestowitzOuch!Nov 09 18:01
schestowitz"Nov 09 18:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Startpage Shows Sheer Hypocrisy After Selling Out and Betraying Privacy (Corrected) | TechrightsNov 09 18:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16465499#3294be00e54801371e8f7a163ef10931Nov 09 18:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● The Crass Warfare of Billionaires Against Sanders and Warren https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/11/08/the-crass-warfare-of-billionaires-against-sanders-and-warren/ Nov 09 18:02
schestowitz"It’s all fun and games until people get hurt"Nov 09 18:02
schestowitzPen mightier than the SIR YES SIRNov 09 18:02
schestowitz>> I like it. Did you consider adding a link in the wiki and put a new pageNov 09 18:04
schestowitz> no, my concept of the wiki is less playful. feel free to do whatever you want with it. im mildly concerned that its too close to the original to keep on techrights, id advise caution in that regard. it probably falls under fair use, but only barely if it does. i think of it more as a way of drawing attention to the github issue. i dont think it needs a page on the wiki.Nov 09 18:04
schestowitzOK, I will keep the 'poem' as a 'gift' :-)Nov 09 18:04
schestowitzCheers!Nov 09 18:04
schestowitzI am linking to that wiki page occasionally and the more it grows, the more worthy of linking it becomes. One day it'll have 100k+ views, trust me. Maybe within months...Nov 09 18:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16432212#857e3de0e522013752a70cc47a07853cNov 09 18:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and FSF: GNU Toolchain, #LibrePlanet and Working Together for #FreeSoftware Fund http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130146 #fsf Nov 09 18:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | GNU and FSF: GNU Toolchain, LibrePlanet and Working Together for Free Software Fund | Tux MachinesNov 09 18:06
schestowitz"Nov 09 18:06
schestowitzHave you been at the talk from the video or can you explain me what happend at the end? I watched it couple times but I do not get what the person in the blue jacket is saying. Did someone want to stop the talk and RMS overruled this or what? And the letter is in relation to this event where RMS said he is the President and does not have to follow the rules?Nov 09 18:06
schestowitzI didn’t hear everything so which rule had to be followed? Did they have to leave the room because the time for this slot was over?Nov 09 18:06
schestowitzIn any case if the assumption is correct that they had to vacate the room then I do not undertand why someone might get offended by RMS action? It seems he wanted to continue with the discussion and as they wouldn’t disturb anyone else it should be fine right?Nov 09 18:06
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comNov 09 18:06
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 5 hours ago Nov 09 18:06
schestowitzHave you been at the talk from the video or can you explain me what happend at the end? I watched it couple times but I do not get what the person in the blue jacket is saying. Did someone want to stop the talk and RMS overruled this or what?Nov 09 18:06
schestowitzerwin i wish i knew what video you meant. is there a video on the “is libreplanet safe” page? i never noticed one. a link to the video would be welcome.Nov 09 18:06
schestowitzi use various tools to screen a lot of content, so its possible im missing something obvious here. thanks for bringing it to my attention.Nov 09 18:06
schestowitz"Nov 09 18:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16451901#5d2aac30e4360137528f0cc47a07853cNov 09 18:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU / #FSF : #LibrePlanet , Respects Your Freedom (RYF) and GNU #Binutils http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130248Nov 09 18:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/FSF: LibrePlanet, Respects Your Freedom (RYF) and GNU Binutils | Tux MachinesNov 09 18:08
schestowitz"RSF: respect stallmans freedom"Nov 09 18:08
schestowitzRSF is for journalists :-) and free speechNov 09 18:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16395804#ab6f32e0df7b013752630cc47a07853cNov 09 18:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #FSF Blogs: Last call for Free Software Awards nominations: Submit by 11/6 http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/last-call-for-free-software-awards-nominations-submit-by-11-6Nov 09 18:09
schestowitz"Nov 09 18:09
schestowitzi can understand the camera guy panning. why the heck did they let kids on the stage during the talk, its not like torvalds couldnt step down for a minute.Nov 09 18:09
schestowitzim not saying it was a deliberate distraction-- only that if it was, nice job, guys! a definite glimpse of an ugly future of corporate co-opting already in progress.Nov 09 18:09
schestowitzthere was always a good reason to call it gnu. there were always people who would benefit from you calling it something that zemlin would be able to sell off years later, whether they knew that or not.Nov 09 18:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.fsf.org | Last call for Free Software Awards nominations: Submit by 11/6 — Free Software Foundation — working together for free softwareNov 09 18:09
schestowitz"Nov 09 18:09
schestowitzYes, good point. Torvalds: I must stay the center of attention. AND CALL IT LINUX!! No STALLMANIXNov 09 18:09
schestowitz"When I do this, some people think that it's because I want my ego to be fed, right? Of course, I'm not asking you to call it "Stallmanix"!" Richard StallmanNov 09 18:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16262072#15d67710d30501370afe00163e73147fNov 09 18:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Benjamin Mako Hill no longer under #fsf 'gag order', so someone ought to contact him for information about #gnu #rms and the FSF. He might be able to say things...Nov 09 18:11
schestowitz"Nov 09 18:11
schestowitzNov 09 18:11
schestowitzhttps://nitter.net/makoshark/status/1174416904393330688Nov 09 18:11
schestowitzIf you read through the transcript for that acceptance speech you will get a general idea of where Mako stands regarding this.Nov 09 18:11
schestowitzhttps://onezero.medium.com/facing-the-great-reckoning-head-on-8fe434e10630Nov 09 18:11
schestowitzNov 09 18:11
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 23 days ago Nov 09 18:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.net | Benjamin Mako Hill🦈 (@makoshark) | NitterNov 09 18:11
schestowitzmako is a weird guy.Nov 09 18:11
schestowitzin 2016 he says at libreplanet we should distance ourselves from open source.Nov 09 18:11
schestowitzin 2019 he says a microsoftie ought to get an award from eff.Nov 09 18:11
schestowitzyeah, i get it, its possible to have these opinions together.Nov 09 18:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-onezero.medium.com | Facing the Great Reckoning Head-On - OneZeroNov 09 18:11
schestowitzpossible, just not easy. thats what i dont get: how?Nov 09 18:11
schestowitzNov 09 18:11
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 23 days ago Nov 09 18:11
schestowitzfor years now, ive compared mako and oliva as high-ranking free software advocates. until this week, they were both on the board.Nov 09 18:11
schestowitzthey were my top two choices for years. ive talked to mako, im pretty sure i inspired an article or two of his (he wouldnt know. i dont blame him, he doesnt know me.)Nov 09 18:11
schestowitzout of the two, oliva is better about answering emails. the fsf has enough standoffish people working for them already.Nov 09 18:11
schestowitz"Nov 09 18:11
schestowitzThat mako tweet is sickeningNov 09 18:11
schestowitz> i didnt know how far we were from being free of microsoft until i started creating it.Nov 09 18:13
schestowitz> Nov 09 18:14
schestowitz> i found out a few things i use all the time were on github and i was like "you know, im going to make deletegithub page that focuses mostly on things many of us use."Nov 09 18:14
schestowitz> Nov 09 18:14
schestowitz> every time i add something to it im a little more horrified. and it was my idea, i hope it will help other people realise just how much control of their software microsoft really purchased. people are too quick to dismiss this.Nov 09 18:14
schestowitzRemember that many of these were there before Microsoft even farted in GH's direction.Nov 09 18:14
schestowitzSo the challenge is to put enough pressure on them to abandon and to keep that momentum.Nov 09 18:14
schestowitzYou can see what other products are there by following the right hashtagNov 09 18:14
schestowitz"Nov 09 18:31
schestowitzThe errors I see are all the same:Nov 09 18:32
schestowitzLib error message 20006, severity 9:Nov 09 18:32
schestowitzWrite to the server failedNov 09 18:32
schestowitzNet-Lib error during Connection reset by peer (104)Nov 09 18:32
schestowitzHaving researched this for a bit, as the code is rather cryptic, there may be resolutions to it depending on the version of the software used.Nov 09 18:32
schestowitzRegards,Nov 09 18:32
schestowitz"Nov 09 18:32
schestowitz> Remember that many of these were there before Microsoft even farted in GH's direction.Nov 09 18:33
schestowitz> Nov 09 18:33
schestowitz> im aware. i moved very quickly after the acquisition.Nov 09 18:33
schestowitz> Nov 09 18:33
schestowitz> Nov 09 18:33
schestowitz> You can see what other products are there by following the right hashtagNov 09 18:33
schestowitz> Nov 09 18:33
schestowitz> i know, im mostly looking for very mainstream items though ill check it out too.Nov 09 18:33
schestowitzToday I saw LG.Nov 09 18:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1193226827130658816Nov 09 18:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Is Garry Trudeau covering FOSS politics now: https://t.co/ce6LrOI08L https://t.co/0i5gxrNvUvNov 09 18:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | MIT Suggestions | TechrightsNov 09 18:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Is Garry Trudeau covering FOSS politics now: https://t.co/ce6LrOI08L https://t.co/0i5gxrNvUvNov 09 18:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/j082298/status/1193039461375971328Nov 09 18:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: @schestowitz If you really want to be even more radical, you can grow your own veggies and fruits, depending on you… https://t.co/Fk6NQVBkTsNov 09 18:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: @schestowitz If you really want to be even more radical, you can grow your own veggies and fruits, depending on you… https://t.co/Fk6NQVBkTsNov 09 18:36
schestowitz"If you really want to be even more radical, you can grow your own veggies and fruits, depending on your climate. Also ferment in the winter, all are great for your health."Nov 09 18:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RonaldVermeij/status/1193044380589932544Nov 09 18:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RonaldVermeij: @schestowitz When even the word "Foundation" pops up, you know you are going to hit something ...Nov 09 18:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_C405/status/1193058434339557376Nov 09 18:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@_C405: infestation es un buen cumplido https://t.co/A5KgzYrAMhNov 09 18:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: In internal documents #microsoft calls #gnu #linux users "infestations" As if we're cockroachesNov 09 18:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1193076418625843200Nov 09 18:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: let's hope so... https://t.co/5g6SKws2r5Nov 09 18:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #LinuxJournal is Offline, But the Articles Will Come Back https://t.co/ORCmprRfI2 #gnu #linux #privateinternetaccess @glynmoodyNov 09 18:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CThenero/status/1193085519971995648Nov 09 18:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CThenero: @schestowitz Will not use it anymore. @StartPageSearchNov 09 18:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1193108311932989440Nov 09 18:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: blood on his dainty hands, if true... https://t.co/Tc5OtVX5iBNov 09 18:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #Kushner allowed Saudis to arrest #Khashoggi https://t.co/nKryIjIwTU #ksa #trump #corruptionNov 09 18:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1193175059084374017Nov 09 18:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: #hero https://t.co/tOJMRXFskXNov 09 18:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "He was a Guardian of the Amazon, a group of indigenous men from the #Guajajara tribe who protect their territory f… https://t.co/d7QFhLGGE9Nov 09 18:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/payne_tammi/status/1193209375231533056Nov 09 18:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@payne_tammi: I’ve been impatiently waiting on everyone to take to the streets. If the senate does what I expect it will and clea… https://t.co/BX9VRC5lEaNov 09 18:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@payne_tammi: I’ve been impatiently waiting on everyone to take to the streets. If the senate does what I expect it will and clea… https://t.co/BX9VRC5lEaNov 09 18:39
schestowitz"I’ve been impatiently waiting on everyone to take to the streets. If the senate does what I expect it will and clears trump, we must hit the streets and stay in the streets until we get the justice trump deserves! I’m ready to rally!"Nov 09 18:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/waltdphillips/status/1193220356103954432Nov 09 18:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@waltdphillips: @schestowitz Bravo Keep protesting the Elite Despots keep a flower pot and order you to kill half your Cattle,Nov 09 18:40
schestowitzid have to know how terrible she is to appreciate your feelings about it. i only know shes a softie-- which of course, is never a good sign.Nov 09 18:44
schestowitzthe softie culture is antagonistic to and belittling of the very notion of freedom or users rights. its the opposite of what the fsf was created to stand for. but open source is mostly about selling out, and the eff chose it over free software for the most part.Nov 09 18:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16262072#c0ee6300e54a013752bb0cc47a07853cNov 09 18:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Benjamin Mako Hill no longer under #fsf 'gag order', so someone ought to contact him for information about #gnu #rms and the FSF. He might be able to say things...Nov 09 18:44
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/08/17/staying-focused/Nov 09 18:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Electronic Frontier Foundation Makes a Mistake by Giving Award to Microsoft Surveillance Person | TechrightsNov 09 18:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16461352#3ff3de60e4cc01371e9f7a163ef10931Nov 09 18:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Opposing #microsoft is "fighting yesterday's fight" say people who often turn out to be receiving Microsoft money (sometimes through affiliates). Microsoft is attacking #gnu #linux on several fronts still. http://techrights.org/2019/08/20/gafam-and-gnu-linux/Nov 09 18:45
schestowitz"Nov 09 18:45
schestowitzMicrosoft is the worst. Followed closely by Google in my opinion.Nov 09 18:45
schestowitzNov 09 18:45
schestowitztomgrz - about 16 hours ago Nov 09 18:45
schestowitzAyndazone surely is a contender…Nov 09 18:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | To GNU/Linux, the Operating System, GAFAM (Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft) is Not the Threat. Microsoft is. | TechrightsNov 09 18:45
schestowitz"Nov 09 18:45
schestowitzWhat's that?Nov 09 18:45
schestowitz>> Today I saw LG.Nov 09 18:46
schestowitz> significant, but the real horror i want to convey is "im using gnu/linux, a free operating system, and my init / text editor / wm / paint program are all on github which microsoft controls."Nov 09 18:46
schestowitz> Nov 09 18:46
schestowitz> i dont know anybody who installs lg software. before i start adding stuff like that, i want people to know its FREE SOFTWARE, not just "open source" that is captured. if you find any gnome projects let me know, i think gnome mostly avoids github. kde as well.Nov 09 18:46
schestowitzI saw some from each that use gh hostingNov 09 18:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16461352#e7825de0e55001371e917a163ef10931Nov 09 19:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Opposing #microsoft is "fighting yesterday's fight" say people who often turn out to be receiving Microsoft money (sometimes through affiliates). Microsoft is attacking #gnu #linux on several fronts still. http://techrights.org/2019/08/20/gafam-and-gnu-linux/Nov 09 19:11
schestowitz"Nov 09 19:11
schestowitzNov 09 19:11
schestowitzSorry. Amazon -> Ayn Rand Zone ;-}Nov 09 19:11
schestowitz"Nov 09 19:11
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