●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, January 10, 2022 ●● ● Jan 10 [01:10] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:19] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:38] *tgraswe has quit (connection closed) [01:38] *tgraswe (~bodg@g3izecpprtp7g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 10 [02:21] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:23] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:51] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:55] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@kmujm4s8xqrtu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 10 [03:15] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [03:15] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) ● Jan 10 [04:14] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:34] *tgraswe (~bodg@g3izecpprtp7g.irc) has left #boycottnovell (leavin) ● Jan 10 [05:36] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jan 10 [06:20] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) ● Jan 10 [08:00] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:03] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@5hv7hhq6j3x48.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:27] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 10 [09:50] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/01/09/ppp-traitors/ [09:50] schestowitz [21:44] those too can be interesting [09:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Pluton Proponents Working for Plutocracy (and Pentagon Agenda) | Techrights [09:50] schestowitz [21:44] we need to outline the series [09:50] schestowitz [21:44] the series? the chain of events? [09:50] schestowitz [21:44] yes [09:50] schestowitz [21:44] it seems too long for one part [09:50] schestowitz [21:45] Alex and I dated in 2019. [09:50] schestowitz [21:45] right at this moment we do a 28-part series [09:50] schestowitz [21:45] with 28+ long videos about them [09:50] schestowitz [21:45] Lots of shit happened, but the overarching theme is he's a sociopath [09:50] schestowitz [21:46] not too shocking, as many who work there are [09:50] schestowitz [21:46] I was looking for something sort of traditional and monogamous [09:50] schestowitz [21:46] they're attracted to power and impunity [09:50] schestowitz [21:46] told him I didn't want to date anyone casually [09:50] schestowitz [21:46] he took that seed and spun it into a mechanism of control [09:50] schestowitz [21:47] I should ask [09:51] schestowitz [21:47] over time, he broke down my self esteem and got sexually violent [09:51] schestowitz [21:47] if any of this already public? [09:51] schestowitz [21:47] like names etc.? [09:51] schestowitz [21:47] (I need to know the level of sensitivity of names etc.) [09:51] schestowitz [21:47] yes, I've already spoken about Alex publicly [09:51] schestowitz [21:48] any URLs? [09:51] schestowitz [21:48] xxxxxxx [09:51] schestowitz [21:48] Alex is claiming publicly that I stalked him which is a perversion of the truth [09:51] schestowitz [21:49] basically he convinced me to let him cat sit for me and when I got back from vacation he broke up with me and wouldn't give me my keys back [09:51] schestowitz [21:50] I confronted him at his parents house about it and he told me it was all about him feeling bad because I said something about him being in AA [09:51] schestowitz [21:50] page saved just in case [09:51] schestowitz [21:51] we ended up dating another month during which the verbal and sexual abuse got worse [09:51] schestowitz [21:52] we broke up, argued for a few months after which resulted in him sending all those messages about how he had tricked me intentionally because he needed a not real girlfriend because AA doesn't let you date in the first year [09:51] schestowitz [21:52] This was all a reiteration of things he would say and then backtrack and gaslight me on [09:51] schestowitz [21:53] like one time he told me that Grimes was personally slighting him because he didn't have Elon Musk's money [09:51] schestowitz [21:53] which I wasn't sure if that was a joke or not but I didn't ask [09:51] schestowitz [21:53] Grimes? [09:51] schestowitz [21:53] because he would have flipped out [09:51] schestowitz [21:54] yeah, Elon Musk's girlfriend that makes trance music [09:51] schestowitz [21:54] the one with the baby named after a password [09:51] schestowitz [21:55] So, I reached out to Nat and some other people at this point [09:51] schestowitz [21:55] he didn't respond. [09:51] schestowitz [21:55] OK, let's brainstorm this [09:51] schestowitz [21:55] the last time I sent a DM to Nat on twitter was March 2020 with all these nasty messages in there [09:51] schestowitz [21:56] and draw up an outline [09:51] schestowitz [21:56] Alex was hired at Github in April 2020 [09:51] schestowitz [21:56] I'm doing a separate series about Switzerland at the moment, but your story is of high importance [09:51] schestowitz [21:56] why did you speak to de Icaza and when? [09:51] schestowitz [21:57] Aug 11, 2021 [09:51] schestowitz [21:57] last time [09:51] schestowitz [21:57] OK [09:51] schestowitz [21:57] who reached out to who and why? [09:51] schestowitz [21:57] bear in mind he hates my guts [09:51] schestowitz [21:57] first time Sep 12, 2020, [09:51] schestowitz [21:58] I reached out to him [09:51] schestowitz [21:58] this was before I posted to twitter [09:51] schestowitz [21:58] Why? I think Alex need some serious mental help [09:51] schestowitz [21:58] I know what they will tell the media [09:51] schestowitz [21:58] to spike stories [09:51] schestowitz [21:58] and shouldn't be in charge of anyone [09:52] schestowitz [21:58] if you read the rant it contains both misogyny and elitism [09:52] schestowitz [21:58] I don't have to even tell you, it's the usual list of tricks [09:52] schestowitz [21:59] he tells me to kill myself multiple times [09:52] schestowitz [21:59] I saw that [09:52] schestowitz [21:59] that he was entitled to use me because I was "too stupid and useless" [09:52] schestowitz [21:59] CoPilot is awful for legal and technical reasons [09:52] schestowitz [21:59] that he's the "top 1%" [09:52] schestowitz [21:59] maybe not for long [09:52] schestowitz [22:00] "not real programmer" because I only know JS and do UX [09:52] schestowitz [22:00] if we explain gradually who he is [09:52] schestowitz [22:00] that can also undermine other interests of theirs [09:52] schestowitz [22:00] JS is programming [09:52] schestowitz [22:00] he's elitist [09:52] schestowitz [22:00] JavaScript [09:52] schestowitz [22:00] what's ironic is he doesn't know what functional programming is [09:52] schestowitz [22:00] ha [09:52] schestowitz [22:01] I did that age 15 [09:52] schestowitz [22:01] I've not opened email yet, but please prepare all the notes [09:52] schestowitz [22:01] Alex also likes to brag about being poor growing up and self made [09:52] schestowitz [22:01] later on we can pass them along over secure channels [09:52] schestowitz [22:02] this is secure, except you use mibbit [09:52] schestowitz [22:02] his dad was a navy programmer, tech founder, and venture capitalist [09:52] schestowitz [22:02] I wrote many articles on bill pretending to become rich [09:52] schestowitz [22:02] he was born ultra-rich [09:52] schestowitz [22:02] but many people are conned by the false narrative [09:52] schestowitz [22:02] his parents set everything up for him [09:52] schestowitz [22:02] both patents [09:52] schestowitz [22:02] I don't really have a problem with Jeff Lindsey persay [09:52] schestowitz [22:03] *parents [09:52] schestowitz [22:03] but he said a lot of similar things that Alex did [09:52] schestowitz [22:03] his was just nicer about it [09:52] schestowitz [22:03] let me brainstorm here [09:52] schestowitz [22:03] nothing confidential yet [09:52] schestowitz [22:04] we can frame the series like this [09:52] schestowitz [22:04] it's about who runs CoPilot [09:52] schestowitz [22:04] I can explain ethical issues associated with it [09:52] schestowitz [22:04] FSF does an essay contest about it already [09:52] schestowitz [22:04] then we look at who runs the unethical operation [09:52] schestowitz [22:04] yes, the crux of the story is that Copilot is run by an abusive misogynist [09:52] schestowitz [22:04] in turn, we introduce the past [09:53] schestowitz [22:05] yes, that's the idea [09:53] schestowitz [22:05] but we need to show people proof [09:53] schestowitz [22:05] a side story is, [09:53] schestowitz [22:05] the media did not wish to cover that [09:53] schestowitz [22:05] hold onto all comms you have [09:53] schestowitz [22:05] not selective [09:53] schestowitz [22:05] well, I can dig deeper on his thoughts on free speech [09:53] schestowitz [22:05] the whole lot [09:53] schestowitz [22:05] then we can name those who suppressed the victim [09:53] schestowitz [22:06] I can't really prove anything with the journalists [09:53] schestowitz [22:06] other than we talked and they rejected my story [09:53] schestowitz [22:07] that too is an issue [09:53] schestowitz [22:08] I didn't project some non-existent relationship onto him. He pursued me aggressive. I lots of boundaries around what I wanted and didn't want. [09:53] schestowitz [22:08] Lying about everything was natural to him [09:53] schestowitz [22:09] did he speak to you about illegal things he had done? [09:53] schestowitz [22:09] drugs and stuff [09:53] schestowitz [22:09] which I don't really have an issue with [09:53] schestowitz [22:10] the drunk girl fetish [09:53] schestowitz [22:10] which he admitted to you? [09:53] schestowitz [22:10] also told me that I "have the body of a 12 year old girl" [09:53] schestowitz [22:10] 31 at the time [09:53] schestowitz [22:11] he also said that the original plan for Copilot was Alex would start a company and work with Nat behind the scenes to build it to get acquired by Github [09:53] schestowitz [22:12] which sounds like securities fraud, but I'm not a lawyer [09:53] schestowitz [22:12] But yes, Alex has admitted to doing LSD and MDMA many many times [09:53] schestowitz [22:12] which I can't say I have an issue with [09:53] schestowitz [22:13] he kind of stole a car while we were together [09:53] schestowitz [22:13] that's a side thing [09:53] schestowitz [22:13] we're not into all the "war on drugs" thing [09:53] schestowitz [22:13] he was driving a rental and they were calling him every day to return it [09:53] schestowitz [22:13] sociopath [09:53] schestowitz [22:14] he also yelled at this woman at the impound when his car got towed [09:53] schestowitz [22:14] He kept parking in places he shouldn't and said I'll just pay the fine [09:53] schestowitz [22:14] this is Austin. cars get towed here all the time [09:53] schestowitz [22:15] like that saying that a fine isn't a punishment, it's just the price to break the law [09:53] schestowitz [22:15] yes, I know that [09:53] schestowitz [22:16] common knowledge that they view it like that [09:53] schestowitz [22:16] Alex is also suing me for defamation [09:53] schestowitz [22:17] on what grounds? [09:53] schestowitz [22:17] Tweets? [09:53] schestowitz [22:18] xxxxxxxxx [09:54] schestowitz [22:18] yeah, the tweets [09:54] schestowitz [22:19] my lawyer thinks it's frivolous, but intended to silence me with legal fees [09:54] schestowitz [22:20] yes, that's what it is for [09:54] schestowitz [22:20] that thread has all my thoughts on that [09:54] schestowitz [22:20] to prevent you reaching out to outlets [09:54] schestowitz [22:20] Dan Price did it [09:54] schestowitz [22:20] and to tell journalists, "I sued her" [09:54] schestowitz [22:20] Trump did the same [09:54] schestowitz [22:20] One journalist said there was concern about the legal activity [09:54] schestowitz [22:20] I've saved the page [09:54] schestowitz [22:21] obviously they will know who my source is [09:54] schestowitz [22:21] the key thing is, [09:54] schestowitz [22:21] not to give them headsup on what will be published next [09:54] schestowitz [22:21] as they can prepare [09:54] schestowitz [22:21] element of surprise help us in exposing the European Patent Office [09:54] schestowitz [...] ● Jan 10 [11:44] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@7bj8pchb5fk5e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 10 [12:08] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:14] *psydroid4 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:37] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@a7e7ag6iqpv3e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:43] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:43] Techrights-sec Council Directive 85/374/EEC of 25 July 1985, article 6.1 could be [12:43] Techrights-sec revisited in the context of proprietary software: [12:43] Techrights-sec https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:31985L0374&from=EN [12:43] Techrights-sec """ [12:43] Techrights-sec Article 6 [12:43] Techrights-sec 1. A product is defective when it does not provide the safety which a person is e [12:43] Techrights-sec ntitled to expect, taking all circumstances into account, including: [12:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-eur-lex.europa.eu | EUR-Lex - 31985L0374 - EN [12:43] Techrights-sec (a) the presentation of the product; [12:43] Techrights-sec (b) the use to which it could reasonably be expected that the product would be pu [12:43] Techrights-sec t; [12:43] Techrights-sec (c) the time when the product was put into circulation. [12:43] Techrights-sec """ [12:50] Techrights-sec np [12:50] Techrights-sec m$ should not be allowed to abuse Art. 7b to try to dodge; any holes that exist [12:50] Techrights-sec are there are the time of publication, public or not. [12:56] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@cqjpy6v75mdaq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 10 [13:02] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [13:02] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@6pxtd49npuduw.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:24] Techrights-sec https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/strict+liability [13:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com | Strict liability legal definition of strict liability [13:29] Techrights-sec available for some discussion in mumble? [13:29] schestowitz-TR yes, just a moment [13:41] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:41] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:42] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@6pxtd49npuduw.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:42] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 10 [14:19] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@p2yyumzuad3bc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:43] schestowitz https://spectrum.ieee.org/stop-calling-everything-ai-machinelearning-pioneer-says#.YGiv6w3V8X4.twitter [14:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-spectrum.ieee.org | Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says - IEEE Spectrum ● Jan 10 [15:13] Techrights-sec thanks [15:22] schestowitz-TR I have improved the video code (preview originally) and pushed, maybe will do videos about it [15:22] schestowitz-TR video suggestions needed, not just welcome [15:22] schestowitz-TR news is slow [15:23] Techrights-sec ok, can check later today [15:23] Techrights-sec thanks for the help earlier [15:23] schestowitz-TR my pleasure, teaches me as much as it did you [15:25] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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