●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, February 10, 2023 ●● ● Feb 10 [01:20] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [01:20] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@e29ec4gtxas4w.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:45] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:45] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Feb 10 [02:19] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:19] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@e29ec4gtxas4w.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 10 [03:37] schestowitz-TR2 we got ti right again! github layoffs ● Feb 10 [04:46] schestowitz-TR2 psydruid: to elaborate a bit [04:46] schestowitz-TR2 for a long time clownflare tolerated [04:46] schestowitz-TR2 copyright infringements [04:47] schestowitz-TR2 nazi sites [04:47] schestowitz-TR2 until 2017 iirc [04:47] schestowitz-TR2 because of daily stormer [04:47] schestowitz-TR2 and did not think a cdn should be in internet policing business [04:47] schestowitz-TR2 so what you see above ia a hateful campaign for an irish transphobe [04:47] schestowitz-TR2 against an american who defends the first amendement [04:48] schestowitz-TR2 not wishing to deplatform site [04:48] schestowitz-TR2 as a cdn [04:48] schestowitz-TR2 so this sinister 'activism' is in fact an attack by mjg on the internet itself [04:48] schestowitz-TR2 sort of like putin [04:48] schestowitz-TR2 gulagboy is an irish putin [04:48] schestowitz-TR2 'cleansing' the net [04:48] schestowitz-TR2 and riling up lunatics [04:49] schestowitz-TR2 ignore the colourful language [04:49] schestowitz-TR2 the bad language is a secondary issu [04:50] schestowitz-TR2 on the upside, i can now show more about graveley [04:50] schestowitz-TR2 whom gulagboy was rushing to 'defend' [04:50] schestowitz-TR2 to say he was wrongly reported on [04:50] schestowitz-TR2 nope [04:50] schestowitz-TR2 it is worse [04:53] schestowitz[TR2] https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/01/05/1354254 [04:53] schestowitz[TR2] " [04:53] schestowitz[TR2] As projected here back in October, there is now a class action lawsuit, albeit in its earliest stages, against Microsoft over its blatant license violation through its use of the M$ GitHub Copilot tool. The software project, Copilot, strips copyright licensing and attribution from existing copyrighted code on an unprecedented scale. The class action lawsuit insists that machine learning algorithms, often marketed as "Artificial [04:53] schestowitz[TR2] Intelligence", are not exempt from copyright law nor are the wielders of such tools. [04:53] schestowitz[TR2] The $9 billion in damages is arrived at through scale. When M$ Copilot rips code without attribution and strips the copyright license from it, it violates the DMCA three times. So if olny 1% of its 1.2M users receive such output, the licenses were breached 12k times with translates to 36k DMCA violations, at a very low-ball estimate. [04:53] schestowitz[TR2] "If each user receives just one Output that violates Section 1202 throughout their time using Copilot (up to fifteen months for the earliest adopters), then GitHub and OpenAI have violated the DMCA 3,600,000 times. At minimum statutory damages of $2500 per violation, that translates to $9,000,000,000," the litigants stated. [04:53] schestowitz[TR2] Besides open-source licenses and DMCA ( 1202, which forbids the removal of copyright-management information), the lawsuit alleges violation of GitHub's terms of service and privacy policies, the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA), and other laws." [04:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | Microsoft, GitHub, and OpenAI Sued for $9B in Damages Over Piracy - SoylentNews [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] it also goes years back, YEARS [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] with several incidents of each [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] many victims apparently [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:19] my wife is reading the police report [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:20] What police report?[18:20] [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] The one I sent you the affidavit? [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:23] Sorry lost you there [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:24] yes [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:24] I got: [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:24] [18:20] The one I sent you the affidavit? [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:24] [18:23] Sorry lost you there [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:25] maybe there's some software to tell the phone not to turn off network when idle [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:25] some media players are capable of doing so [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:25] Yeah I wish there was like caffeine for iPhone [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:26] I use that on my laptop and it's helpful. [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:26] I don't use mobile [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:26] but I heard of "caffeine" [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:28] So that document is more of a petition to the courts[18:28] it's quite strong [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:28] To establish probable cause and acquire a warrant [18:28] if past victims add to it [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:28] Caffeine is just a Mac app that keeps your laptop from going to sleep[18:28] then the warrant is stronger, I guess [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:29] Well they're both legal documents from a US court systems perspective [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:29] As long as you're using the word allegations are fine [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:29] Because the police wrote this document [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:29] Basically the police arrested him and wrote a report which we don't have [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:29] And it looks like a couple of days later they went to the court because Alex had run away [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:29] And they went to the court and said hey we have probable cause to arrest this guy can you issue a warrant[18:29] it would be good to have hard material for that [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:29] My friend from France explained to me that the police don't need probable cause in Europe[18:30] I'm not sure what it's like in the UK [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:30] But he said that they can just like tell you to empty your pockets for no reason [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:30] I'm not sure either [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:30] IANAL [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:30] yeah so this document is basically just a bunch of paperwork saying that that you have a right to arrest and search Alex's person [18:31] And that he's going to have to go to court docket to see if the prosecutor wants to it [18:31] It's sort of like a notification that he needs to go to court to deal with this[18:32] because in the US we have all these rights around search and sei [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] zure because of the constitution there's more paperwork basically[18:33] In france they can arrest you and question you without probable cause[18:33] Not that that doesn't happen that the US. Police make up probable cause all the time[18:33] Which is what Black Lives Matter is complaining about [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:34] I see... [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:34] thanks for cluing me up [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:34] outside my knowledgebase so to speak [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:34] Yeah so it's a court document. It has more weight than a police report [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:35] It means that a officer didn't decide that there was probable cause. It means that the court agreed on the probable cause and that's why he was able to get arrested even though he wasn't in the act of a crime[18:37] I see [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:38] There will be another police report about the actual arrest but i haven't gotten it yet[18:39] Obviously you should fact check what I said. These are Travis County Court proceedings. [18:41] thanks [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:41] I will cover this slowly [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:41] once per week [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:41] so there's time to verify and relate to current news beats [04:57] schestowitz[TR2] [18:41] like Nat 'leaving' ● Feb 10 [05:42] *asusbox2 has quit (connection closed) [05:42] *asusbox2 (~rianne@rbnv8qskr8rgw.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:42] techrightssec The one post mentions GitLab without specifying the connection or lack of [05:42] techrightssec connection between GitLab and M$ GitHub. ● Feb 10 [07:03] schestowitz-TR2 the one post tnat i saw frist was a microsoft mole [07:03] schestowitz-TR2 maria [07:03] schestowitz-TR2 she had the audscity to use gitlab logo in article about githublayoffs [07:03] schestowitz-TR2 way to confuse [07:03] schestowitz-TR2 these criminals larned from the 90s [07:03] schestowitz-TR2 they need to infltrate andnbribe the media [07:03] schestowitz-TR2 like gangs and mafia infikltrate the polite and the state [07:04] techrightssec Pure misdirection. [07:04] techrightssec That there is no connection between GitLab and GitHub is important then ● Feb 10 [09:24] schestowitz-TR2 your code runs nicely, thank you [09:24] schestowitz-TR2 atm i have a massive file with all the html shown [09:24] schestowitz-TR2 no easy way to fold/unfold [09:25] schestowitz-TR2 so this cascading ui can help navigate [09:25] schestowitz-TR2 i forgot how beatiul it is to read news without any images and other diversions [09:25] schestowitz-TR2 INCLUDING Linux news ● Feb 10 [11:11] techrightssec np [11:28] schestowitz-TR2 Dawah. https://www.michigandaily.com/campus-life/global-islamic-studies-center-hosts-islamic-thought-and-civilization-event/ [11:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.michigandaily.com | Islamic Center hosts 'Islamic Thought and Civilization' event [11:30] schestowitz-TR2 "I remember growing up adamant that I would never have children. A large part of this was because I hated hospitals, blood and the thought of childbirth." https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/in-our-society-motherhood-is-an-expectation-rather-than-a-choice-children/ [11:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.michigandaily.com | Society should see having children as a choice, not an expectation [11:31] schestowitz-TR2 they fucked around with the headline somewhat [11:31] schestowitz-TR2 the editor projecting [11:32] schestowitz-TR2 the "don't want to 'insult' readers who have kids" BS [11:32] schestowitz-TR2 maybe inc. the editor whose feelings and choices get challenged [11:32] schestowitz-TR2 and ADVERTISERS' [11:47] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cbcfptirpkfqa.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 10 [12:02] schestowitz-TR2 draft [12:02] schestowitz-TR2 would be worth linking to a page with a list of links [12:02] schestowitz-TR2 i know only 3 offhan [12:02] schestowitz-TR2 there are dozens, maybe hundreds [12:02] schestowitz-TR2 sometimes the simpler ones are better [12:02] schestowitz-TR2 not over-engineered [12:02] schestowitz-TR2 easier to learn [12:02] schestowitz-TR2 like cgit [12:02] schestowitz-TR2 many lists of github alternatives would be lists of sites, not software [12:02] schestowitz-TR2 as ifgit itself is never worth learning [12:02] schestowitz-TR2 or as if developers are boors who cannot study how to use it [12:02] schestowitz-TR2 and don't know how to use email [12:03] techrightssec checking [12:03] techrightssec might mention a list of M$ GitHub competitors in addition to GitLab [12:03] techrightssec I'm not sure of a summary of version control hosting services. [12:03] techrightssec btw did techcrunch go away, it seems to have been replaced with a redirection? [12:04] schestowitz-TR2 the "don't want to 'insult' readers who have kids" BS [12:04] schestowitz-TR2 maybe inc. the editor whose feelings and choices get challenged [12:04] schestowitz-TR2 and ADVERTISERS' [12:04] schestowitz-TR2 techrunch is an old and dying brand [12:04] schestowitz-TR2 ued by msft zack and others [12:04] schestowitz-TR2 it does not ave much real value anymoe [12:04] schestowitz-TR2 it seldom breaks news [12:06] schestowitz-TR2 it looks like the wikipedia article on git was heavily tampered by microsoft and microsofers. even technical articles there have turned into mindless, misleading marketing. [12:09] schestowitz-TR2 [12:09:06] https://git-scm.com/downloads is promoting github. So you want git and its sends you to PROPRIETARY site of MICROSOFT to get the latest version. Insane. GitHub is an ATTACK on Git. Seems it's already attacked from THE INSIDE. [12:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-git-scm.com | Git - Downloads [12:09] schestowitz-TR2 [12:09:06] [TechrightsSocial] git-scm.com | Git - Downloads [12:13] schestowitz-TR2 found two relativebly authoritative urls [12:36] techrightssec excellent [12:37] schestowitz-TR2 the goal is to normalise this idea that self-hosting is ok [12:38] schestowitz-TR2 and doable [12:38] schestowitz-TR2 and provide pointers [12:38] schestowitz-TR2 if everyone does it, github is doomed [12:38] schestowitz-TR2 like skype [12:38] schestowitz-TR2 btw, rianne talks to family over mumble and it's good [12:38] schestowitz-TR2 headphones help [12:38] schestowitz-TR2 site a > sites b anc c -> sites d-z [12:38] schestowitz-TR2 needto set the tone and let it roll on [12:38] schestowitz-TR2 like with boycottnovell [12:38] schestowitz-TR2 mumble the official sw is simple [12:38] schestowitz-TR2 i think my one video about it covered most point [12:38] schestowitz-TR2 *points [12:38] schestowitz-TR2 doing another one abiout advance ones would be not useful and also need prior research/tinkering [12:47] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Feb 10 [13:14] *Moocher5254 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:14] *Moocher5254 (~quassel@i7sfqsqsuqk4i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 10 [18:43] *psydroid2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [18:43] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cbcfptirpkfqa.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 10 [21:12] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@hfek369aiat8w.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 10 [22:28] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed)