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[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	OLD: "Very strange, indeed. IF Microsoft is behind these strange activities, it would demonstrate that they are clearly worried
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	about open source and Linux. Otherwise, why would they go to such extreme measures?" https://www.zdnet.com/article/articles-of-r
[10:36]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.zdnet.com/article/articles-of-r/ )
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	oy-schestowitz/
[10:36]	Techrights-sec	Interesting, but M$ behavior is still ongoing.  Also, ZDNet has fallen since 
[10:36]	Techrights-sec	2011
[10:37]	schestowitz-TR	a lot earlier, but editors changed a lot
[10:37]	schestowitz-TR	also, the au and uk sites perished
[10:37]	schestowitz-TR	among others
[10:37]	schestowitz-TR	now they are doing 'thin' coverage
[10:37]	schestowitz-TR	like itwwire
[10:37]	schestowitz-TR	btw, did we add sam's link on social control media?
[10:39]	Techrights-sec	I think so
[10:39]	Techrights-sec	It's not possible to search the links by author though.
[10:40]	Techrights-sec	$ grep -h 'itwire' -- *-merged.html
[10:40]	Techrights-sec	                  <h5><a href="https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/apple-forced-to-issue-emergency-fixes-for-two-zero-d
[10:40]	Techrights-sec	ays.html">Apple forced to issue emergency fixes for two zero-days</a></h5>
[10:40]	Techrights-sec	                  <h5><a href="https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/google-blames-microsoft-monoculture-for-govt-securit
[10:40]	Techrights-sec	y-problems.html">Google blames Microsoft 'monoculture' for govt security problems</a> [iophk: Windows TCO]</h5>
[10:40]	Techrights-sec	                      <h5><a href="https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/news-media-code-review-will-go-easy
[10:40]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/apple-forced-to-issue-emergency-fixes-for-two-zero-d )
[10:40]	Techrights-sec	-on-facebook-again.html">News media code review will go easy on Facebook again</a></h5>
[10:40]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/google-blames-microsoft-monoculture-for-govt-securit )
[10:40]	Techrights-sec	                  <h5><a href="https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/wikileaks-marks-12-years-since-release-of-collateral
[10:40]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/news-media-code-review-will-go-easy )
[10:40]	Techrights-sec	-murder-video.html">WikiLeaks marks 12 years since release of Collateral Murder video</a></h5>
[10:40]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/wikileaks-marks-12-years-since-release-of-collateral )
[10:41]	schestowitz-TR	so it's not there
[10:41]	Techrights-sec	                      <h5><a href="https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/market/twitter-shares-soar-after-elon-musk-9-2-stake-reve
[10:41]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/market/twitter-shares-soar-after-elon-musk-9-2-stake-reve )
[10:41]	Techrights-sec	aled.html">Twitter shares soar after Elon Musk 9.2% stake revealed</a></h5>
[10:41]	Techrights-sec	                  <h5><a href="https://itwire.com/strategy/wikileaks-marks-12-years-since-release-of-collateral-murder-video.htm
[10:41]	Techrights-sec	l">WikiLeaks marks 12 years since release of Collateral Murder video</a></h5>
[10:41]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - WikiLeaks marks 12 years since release of Collateral Murder video
[10:47]	Techrights-sec	or was it this one?
[10:47]	Techrights-sec	https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/don-t-want-to-be-abused-online-simple,-stay-away-from-social-media.htm
[10:47]	Techrights-sec	l
[10:47]	Techrights-sec	It was covered in another article too 
[10:47]	Techrights-sec	adding
[10:47]	Techrights-sec	strange, I thought it got added the other day since I recall reading it
[10:47]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Don't want to be abused online? Simple, stay away from social media
[10:47]	schestowitz-TR	it is an important subject
[10:47]	schestowitz-TR	anything we can pick up on it can come handy
[10:47]	schestowitz-TR	come in handy
[10:47]	Techrights-sec	yes
[10:48]	Techrights-sec	yet at the same time most mainstream media site are actively pushing for
[10:48]	Techrights-sec	use of social control media and doing what they can to normalize its use
[10:48]	Techrights-sec	in place of actual sources
[10:48]	Techrights-sec	Same for all too many politicians and ex-politicians
[10:51]	schestowitz-TR	[03:24] <techrights-news> Revisionism to distract from famous criminal Bill Gates? https://www.i-programmer.info/history/people/305-gary-kildall.html
[10:51]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.i-programmer.info | Gary Kildall - CP/M, Digital Research and GEM
[10:54]	Techrights-sec	There's been lots of revisionism regarding Kildall.  His book went unpublished,
[10:54]	Techrights-sec	in particular several chapters which spilled the dirt on Bill.
[10:54]	Techrights-sec	It's nasty that Bill ever gets mentioned in Kildall's biographies.
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[10:55]	schestowitz-TR	Gary did not know a lot of rich people like Bill's mom
[10:56]	Techrights-sec	The link has a line of unadulterated bullshit: "Bill Gates was an enthusiast, a garage entrepreneur, a stylish programmer"
[10:56]	Techrights-sec	Bill was a dumpsterdiver, which is where he got most of his source code.
[10:57]	schestowitz-TR	y u so jealous !!
● Apr 10
[11:02]	Techrights-sec	yep, they turn to ad hominem every time
[11:02]	Techrights-sec	like 20 years ago when open standards were about to take over fully, M$ 
[11:02]	Techrights-sec	minions started the whisper campaign that it was all just "schadenfreud" and
[11:02]	Techrights-sec	ignored the benefits which open standars had already provide to-date.
[11:42]	schestowitz-TR	tux machines has a soft spot or underbelly for emojis
[11:42]	schestowitz-TR	this means that for nws picks that are going to go into "linux" related stuff
[11:42]	schestowitz-TR	it helps to delete the symbols
[11:42]	schestowitz-TR	it does not kill the site's DB
[11:42]	schestowitz-TR	drupal just cuts everything after such symbols
[11:42]	schestowitz-TR	hence I've had to run extra checks at my side
[11:42]	schestowitz-TR	just saying
● Apr 10
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR	^^ number (1)
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR	(2) I am now going to experiment with the news file on patents, 250+ of them
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR	(3) iirc, firefox still has a CLI option for screenshots of a given page
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR	I used to know all the CLI options, but rianne and I use librewold and most of
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR	the time it is falkon for me
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR	4) for the time being daily links contain <!-- url >> so they don't validate
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR	buit I checked gemini and gemtext is OK with it for now
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR	going to figure out an approach for grouping "IP' news and how to quickly do rebuttals
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR	with screenshots, not links
[12:02]	Techrights-sec	ack
[12:02]	Techrights-sec	the files validate here
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR	yes, maybe different spec checked against
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR	for now I can alter my version of the file to not add the <!-- ...
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR	and at your end no tags added
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR	the only downside is, managing two versions over git can get confusing
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR	having said that, maybe this is a chance to change the name of the file
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR	which is something you wanted to do over a month ago
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR	or, as another option, branch that file out to another external function 
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR	sometimes I use the fuctions for remote checksums and two paces of upload
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR	to quickly run uploads
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR	or to squeeze is another rsync when the first pass is over and nefore the fiinal one starts
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR	for large videos this can shave off an hour
[12:38]	Techrights-sec	ack  
[12:38]	Techrights-sec	One of the things that the LF has done to the world is to make license violations the norm and accepted.  Probably most embedded
[12:38]	Techrights-sec	 systems are GPL-licensed.
[12:38]	Techrights-sec	ALmost none of them actually comply with the license requirements.  
[12:39]	schestowitz-TR	just look who SPONSORS LF
[12:39]	schestowitz-TR	and see the IRS files
[12:39]	schestowitz-TR	they make it clear, black and "allow"
[12:39]	schestowitz-TR	if you pay, you get a seat
[12:39]	schestowitz-TR	check the latest board changes
[12:39]	schestowitz-TR	some "embedded" companies bought a seat
[12:39]	schestowitz-TR	even patent trolls 
[12:46]	schestowitz-TR	about 4 years ago bruce perens wrote publicly that LF had become a gpl infringers' club
[12:46]	schestowitz-TR	or something to that effect
[12:46]	schestowitz-TR	techrights probably has a mailing list link several times (around that year)
[12:46]	schestowitz-TR	but that was probably before we properly took on LF as an issue
[12:46]	schestowitz-TR	and before FOSSForce spread its butt cheeks
[12:46]	Techrights-sec	Yes that would describe it, a GPL infringers' club
[12:46]	Techrights-sec	https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/let's-talk-about-source-code,-right-to:7
[12:46]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Let's talk about source code, Right to Repair, and massive deflection by John Deere.
[12:47]	schestowitz-TR	with the word "Linux" in it
[12:47]	schestowitz-TR	managing the outsoucing of code to Microsoft (GitHub)
[12:48]	Techrights-sec	the LF is about representing the interests of its corporate members within
[12:48]	Techrights-sec	the project and pushing their agendas.
[12:48]	Techrights-sec	and turning a blind eye to their damage and violations
[12:49]	schestowitz-TR	it is a lot worse for two reasons
[12:49]	schestowitz-TR	1) they also buy control over Torvalds -- something that Steve Jobs was unable to buy
[12:49]	schestowitz-TR	2) they are using the trademark of Torvalds, "Linux", to buy legitimacy
[12:49]	schestowitz-TR	for totally unrelated things, some of which actively undermine Linux
[12:50]	schestowitz-TR	Linus IS AWARE, but his balls are in someone else's palm, so he's either in 
[12:50]	schestowitz-TR	denial about it or worries what spreaking out would entail (again) 
[12:50]	Techrights-sec	More like a vise than a palm.  
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR	it cannot hurt to send him an email, I assume you have his address,and send him
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR	a
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR	short reminder of what's happening
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR	even if he does not reply, if short and to the point he will read it
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR	and it'll come back to his miind every now and then
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR	I don't think LF pre-filters his mail, at least not yet
[12:52]	Techrights-sec	I'pm not sure.  I've never been introduced and have never contributed any code
[12:52]	Techrights-sec	to his project.
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR	that does not matter
[12:54]	schestowitz-TR	Sam Varghese never wrote any code, but Debian devs and Linus do reply to him
[12:54]	schestowitz-TR	even as recently as this past week
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	I iamagine, based on what he told Sam, that deep inside Linus agrees with Techrighhts
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	on a lot of things
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	not all things
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	but some
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	but he can never say that
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	I'm OK with it
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	Dealing with issues like corporate troll
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	does not buy you corporate friends
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	FSF has some people who mfoolishly think that
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	being more "professional" (e.g. visiting Microsoft)
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	would open door to them
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	and make them more acceptable
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	it's a mirage
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR	2 weeks after RMS went to Microsoft he got 'canceled'
[12:57]	Techrights-sec	ack
[12:57]	Techrights-sec	"professional" means ass-kissing, sucking up, and backstabbing.  LT acknowledged
[12:57]	Techrights-sec	that much.
[12:57]	Techrights-sec	It was a very stupid, foolish move for RMS to give M$ so much PR leverage over
[12:57]	Techrights-sec	him and thus GNU.  
[12:58]	schestowitz-TR	months later SJVN wrote, and even told me directly, that "even RMS" was OK with Microsoft
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[13:00]	Techrights-sec	The set him up and then took the opportunity his visit afforded.  So the
[13:00]	Techrights-sec	last that many people saw or heard of him was at M$ and that allows M$ to       
[13:00]	Techrights-sec	further control the narrative about "acceptance" of their vile software and
[13:00]	Techrights-sec	worse behavior and lack of ethics.
[13:00]	Techrights-sec	Yes, SJVN fell for the lies but since RMS was cancelled, he could not correct
[13:00]	Techrights-sec	the lies even with SJVN.  Then on the other hand SJVN did sell out around then.
[13:00]	Techrights-sec	I forget which quarter he turned but it went quickly.  
[13:00]	schestowitz-TR	I asked RMS to explain his visit
[13:00]	schestowitz-TR	which he later diod
[13:00]	schestowitz-TR	he said Microsoft had written to him
[13:00]	schestowitz-TR	and expressed interest
[13:00]	schestowitz-TR	he didn't say who wrote it
[13:01]	schestowitz-TR	many someone Microsoft had poached to "influence"
[13:01]	schestowitz-TR	*maybe
[13:13]	Techrights-sec	EIther way he go used badly.
[13:13]	Techrights-sec	to the detriment of FOSS in general.
[13:13]	schestowitz-TR	back with teapot I could use your advice if you wish to quickly annotate what's on the screen, what to use? gimp is too slow and not suitable for the tsk
[13:14]	Techrights-sec	  I'm not sure, I would have said Gimp.  Krita will be slower as far as I know Ksnip maybe?  Inkscape would be clunkier than Gimp. What about LibreOffice Draw?
[13:15]	schestowitz-TR	I never tried Krita
[13:15]	schestowitz-TR	but I am familiar with the others
[13:15]	schestowitz-TR	GIMP can be OK, but it's not suited for this task
[13:16]	schestowitz-TR	the UI is not for rapid jotting on the screen
[13:16]	schestowitz-TR	that's what I liked video form for
[13:18]	Techrights-sec	Knsip?
[13:18]	Techrights-sec	^Ksnip?
[13:18]	Techrights-sec	You've got KDE already IIRC
[13:18]	Techrights-sec	ack
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	spactacle and ksnip do not allolw ad hoc, in-pace edits, go to external editor
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	like I said firefox canm take urll and print to file
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	iirc as png as well
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	but then I might want to draw on it+ add some text
[13:19]	schestowitz-TR	thousands of times over
[13:21]	schestowitz-TR	i want to research this BEFORE potentially spending hours per week
[13:21]	schestowitz-TR	only to have remorse later
[13:21]	schestowitz-TR	the workflow for this should be
[13:21]	schestowitz-TR	press some combo
[13:21]	schestowitz-TR	e.g. with xbindkeys
[13:21]	schestowitz-TR	then draw some stuff on the screen press save and choose filename
[13:22]	schestowitz-TR	I wonder if something like that exists for gnu/linux
[13:22]	schestowitz-TR	i never stumbled upon such a thing
[13:22]	schestowitz-TR	but I can't be the first person to want that
[13:22]	Techrights-sec	hmm --recording crashed firefox
[13:22]	Techrights-sec	Gimp has scripting
[13:22]	Techrights-sec	two kinds of scripting
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	good engineers added good things to mozilla firefox 
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	inc. CLI stuff
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	now chromium has better CLI tools
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	I checked
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	and the settings were watered down in firefox in more recent versions
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	because they hate core useers
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	30+ (million) OK
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	LOCs
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	let's just remove those 10 lines of code "For security"
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	or for "dumb" users who never use the CLI anywa
[13:24]	Techrights-sec	flameshot?
[13:24]	Techrights-sec	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_manual_image_annotation_tools
[13:24]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | List of manual image annotation tools - Wikipedia
[13:24]	schestowitz-TR	I remember it, never used it, let me check...
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	apropos (ot)
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	there was a good talk in libreplanet
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	about doing arts and stuff from the cli
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	also with python
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	did you see it?
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	trying flameshot now
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	yes!!! This is exactly what I needed!
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	you run it as 
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	flameshot gui
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	then it lets you select a region
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	drawing cirecles and stuff and adding text
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	then press ave
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	s 
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	simple ave dialogue appears
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	perfect
[13:30]	schestowitz-TR	I will; deposit the text I put in for alt="" in the text file 
[13:31]	Techrights-sec	There's also an -anotate and -gravity option in ImageMagick, that's highly
[13:31]	Techrights-sec	scriptable
[13:31]	Techrights-sec	-draw too
[13:31]	Techrights-sec	excellent
[13:31]	schestowitz-TR	adding this to xbindkeys
[13:48]	Techrights-sec	router maintenance etc 30 min
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[14:27]	schestowitz-TR	hi
[14:27]	schestowitz-TR	can you take a quick look att he draft and say if this apporoach makes sense
[14:27]	schestowitz-TR	and if not what to improve?
[14:30]	Techrights-sec	hi
[14:30]	Techrights-sec	router maintenance complete (AFAIK)
[14:30]	Techrights-sec	ok
[14:30]	Techrights-sec	s/propaganda/propaganda and disinformation/
[14:33]	Techrights-sec	I'm not seeing the ALT text though
[14:35]	Techrights-sec	ok the proof of the pudding is in the gemtext
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR	checking a conversion to gemtext
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR	to increase chances of it updating OK
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR	I shift between two modes of traffic-shaping
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR	one is more lenient
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR	and with it on, completition is almost assured
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR	it tends to increase latency when I surf the web though
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR	had tc not needed root
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR	it would have been both possible and wise to enable the lenient mode as
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR	part of the refresh script
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR	and then revert back at the end
[14:40]	Techrights-sec	the tc script can be portioned off into /usr/local/sbin/ and then
[14:40]	Techrights-sec	a line added to /etc/sudoers so that it can then be called from the refresh
[14:40]	Techrights-sec	script without needed a password.  Just don't let it accept options or else
[14:40]	Techrights-sec	hard code the options into the sudoers file
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	update complete
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	looks fine as text in kristall
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	the hard part will be grouping related topics
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	it is at least fast to do esp. when I get all the workflow right
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	like adding texts to klipper while I type it, then spewing it out into
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	a text file afterwards 
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	added the traffic shaping scripts to sbin
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	going to change sudoers now, with the validating editor
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	unlike the last time
[14:45]	Techrights-sec	Looks ok in amfora but I wonder about the missing contentin the ALT text.  
[14:45]	Techrights-sec	There is material there in Gemtext and it kind of makes sense, but is it enough?
[14:45]	Techrights-sec	be ue to use visudo and to test befor closingthat window
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[14:58]	schestowitz-TR	i am looking at dusoers docs
[14:58]	schestowitz-TR	from what I can gather
[14:58]	schestowitz-TR	gemini  ALL = EXEC: /one comand 
[14:58]	Techrights-sec	%gemini ALL=(root:root) NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/command1 ""
[14:58]	Techrights-sec	The documentation is confusing.  Exec and NoExec refer to shell escapes.
[14:59]	schestowitz-TR	a second identical line for command2?
● Apr 10
[15:04]	schestowitz	# User privilege specification
[15:04]	schestowitz	root    ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[15:04]	schestowitz	# Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
[15:04]	schestowitz	%sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[15:04]	schestowitz	%gemini ALL=(root:root) NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2021-Nov.sh ""
[15:04]	schestowitz	%gemini ALL=(root:root) NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2.sh ""
[15:07]	Techrights-sec	yes 
[15:07]	Techrights-sec	that should do it, gemini will be able to run those two scripts as root
[15:07]	Techrights-sec	without a password but with no options
[15:07]	schestowitz-TR	ok, saving with visudo, will stay logged in regardless, as root
[15:12]	schestowitz-TR	tested OK
[15:12]	schestowitz-TR	as gemini
[15:12]	schestowitz-TR	can you add those to the update scripts and git?
[15:12]	schestowitz-TR	that ought to assure completition
[15:13]	schestowitz-TR	and no lock files lying about except power loss, rather than timeouts
[15:13]	schestowitz-TR	the one you want running during updates is Nov.sh
[15:13]	schestowitz-TR	yes, this is the correct order
[15:13]	schestowitz-TR	it only temporarily slows down our connection 
[15:13]	schestowitz-TR	I think this is the first system level change we make since the latest cloning top external backup
[15:14]	Techrights-sec	yes, test first before closing the window or even closing the editor!
[15:14]	Techrights-sec	It would be a matter of putting this line in the script:
[15:14]	Techrights-sec	sudo /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2021-Nov.sh
[15:14]	Techrights-sec	and then later 
[15:14]	Techrights-sec	sudo /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2.sh
[15:14]	Techrights-sec	or vice versa
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	I am really LOVING the use of this new program
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	it takes no longer to respond to FUD
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	than it did in video
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	I just need to think how to group related rebuttals
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	also, with the screenshot, context can be seen but no traffic sent
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	the headline is showing so people can ask gulag where that is
[15:37]	Techrights-sec	ack
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	i've just done some testijng of daily links in gemini://
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	to ensure it makes sense
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	nice thing is when I link to the wiki or to older posts it points to the gemini:// equiv
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	so on average about 5 links in daily links stay in geminisspace
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	for the rest there are excerpts and "External" link
[15:46]	schestowitz-TR	 No, Your Laundry Machine Doesn't Need WiFi gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-10-no-your-laundry-machine-doesn-t-need-wi
[15:46]	schestowitz-TR	fi.gmi suckers born every minute...
[15:46]	schestowitz-TR	lots of joking about this in irc atm
[15:46]	schestowitz-TR	you can see the scrollbnack in gemini
[15:46]	schestowitz-TR	not that it's important
● Apr 10
[16:09]	schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rsa4U8mqkw
[16:09]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0Rsa4U8mqkw
[16:09]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> yewtu.be | Borat Subsequent Moviefilm - Official Trailer | Prime Video - Invidious
[16:27]	Techrights-sec	ack
[16:27]	Techrights-sec	ack
[16:27]	Techrights-sec	checking
● Apr 10
[17:36]	schestowitz-TR	At the end, for alt, I decided adding the headline of shown articler would helpo too
[17:36]	schestowitz-TR	I wioll be experimenting with doing all this not just on Sundays
[17:36]	schestowitz-TR	It's fast and fun
[17:36]	Techrights-sec	ack
● Apr 10
[19:43]	schestowitz	Author: roy <roy@schestowitz.com>
[19:43]	schestowitz	Date:   Sun Apr 10 19:43:13 2022 +0100
[19:43]	schestowitz	    adding tc
[19:43]	schestowitz	diff --git a/Gemini/gemini-cron-updater.sh b/Gemini/gemini-cron-updater.sh
[19:43]	schestowitz	index 310a6da..3be2007 100755
[19:43]	schestowitz	--- a/Gemini/gemini-cron-updater.sh
[19:43]	schestowitz	+++ b/Gemini/gemini-cron-updater.sh
[19:43]	schestowitz	@@ -43,6 +43,8 @@ else
[19:44]	schestowitz	        # echo Locking
[19:44]	schestowitz	 fi
[19:44]	schestowitz	
[19:44]	schestowitz	+sudo /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2021-Nov.sh
[19:44]	schestowitz	+
[19:44]	schestowitz	 tmpfeeds=$(mktemp --suffix "-cron-gemini") || exit 1
[19:44]	schestowitz	 trap "rm -f -- $lockfile; rm -f -- $tmplinks; rm -f -- $tmpindex;" EXIT
[19:44]	schestowitz	
[19:44]	schestowitz	@@ -99,4 +101,6 @@ rm -f -- ${lockfile}
[19:44]	schestowitz	 rm -f -- ${tmpfeeds}
[19:44]	schestowitz	 trap - exit
[19:44]	schestowitz	
[19:44]	schestowitz	+sudo /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2.sh
[19:44]	schestowitz	+
[19:44]	schestowitz	 exit 0
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