
(ℹ) Join us now at the IRC channel | ䷉ Find the plain text version at this address (HTTP) or in Gemini (how to use Gemini) with a full GemText version.
| *x-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Apr 10 00:12 | |
| *amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) | Apr 10 00:14 | |
| *amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-ui3f8c.u06p.1s3m.moll9o.IP) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 10 00:17 | |
| *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@xk49uzi5amp4u.irc) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 10 00:17 | |
| *FANTOM has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) | Apr 10 00:27 | |
| *FANTOM has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Apr 10 00:28 | |
| *FANTOM (~fantom@freenode-6hf.832.ifb87q.IP) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 10 00:36 | |
| *FANTOM (~fantom@90.244.168.62) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 10 00:36 | |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > Hi Roy, | Apr 10 04:39 |
|---|---|---|
| schestowitz[TR3] | > | Apr 10 04:39 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > We recently interviewed Dr Luis Falcon, lead for GNU Health | Apr 10 04:39 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > who expressed similar points made here, that "AI" chatbots | Apr 10 04:39 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > are causing medical harms. | Apr 10 04:39 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > | Apr 10 04:39 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > https://techrights.org/n/2026/04/09/Chatbots_or_LLMs_Are_Killing_Us_and_We_Ought_to_Talk_About_It.shtml | Apr 10 04:39 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > | Apr 10 04:39 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > This interview is queued for publication but not yet approved by Luis | Apr 10 04:39 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > or ready to go, so it's JFYI as a preview. | Apr 10 04:39 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > | Apr 10 04:39 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > https://cybershow.uk/media/episodes/gnuhealth.mp3 | Apr 10 04:39 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | I listened to many of your eps lately, so thanks for that. | Apr 10 04:39 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | https://techrights.org/n/2026/04/09/Chatbots_or_LLMs_Are_Killing_Us_and_We_Ought_to_Talk_About_It.shtml was inspired by what Rianne told me about a patient. | Apr 10 04:39 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | Dr. Falcon does a lot of incredible but UNDERAPPRECIATED work. | Apr 10 04:39 |
| *TechBN has quit (connection closed) | Apr 10 04:39 | |
| *TechBN (~b0t@iijacan2vrgta.irc) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 10 04:39 | |
| -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Failed to load module HelloWorld. Reason: Not found! | Apr 10 04:39 | |
| -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Module HelloWorld has been removed until restarted! | Apr 10 04:39 | |
| *TechBN has quit (connection closed) | Apr 10 04:39 | |
| *TechBN (~b0t@iijacan2vrgta.irc) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 10 04:39 | |
| -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Failed to load module HelloWorld. Reason: Not found! | Apr 10 04:39 | |
| -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Module HelloWorld has been removed until restarted! | Apr 10 04:39 | |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > Twitter post: https://x.com/tsfc_fans/status/2042123833206043123 | Apr 10 04:46 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > <https://x.com/tsfc_fans/status/2042123833206043123> | Apr 10 04:46 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > | Apr 10 04:46 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | > Happy to provide more internal communication. | Apr 10 04:46 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | Yes. Please. | Apr 10 04:46 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | br, | Apr 10 04:46 |
| *TechBN has quit (connection closed) | Apr 10 04:46 | |
| *TechBN (~b0t@iijacan2vrgta.irc) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 10 04:46 | |
| -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Failed to load module HelloWorld. Reason: Not found! | Apr 10 04:46 | |
| -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Module HelloWorld has been removed until restarted! | Apr 10 04:46 | |
| schestowitz[TR3] | Modern Linux relies heavily on systemd, with it serving as the default init system (PID 1) for the vast majority of major distributions,including Debian, Fedora, Alma Linux, Rocky Linux, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, CachyOS. While it is not strictly required by the Linux kernel itself,it has become the standard, integrated base system for management. | Apr 10 04:51 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | Here is a breakdown of how much Linux relies on systemd: | Apr 10 04:51 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | 1. Ubiquity and Core Functionality PID 1 (Init System): Systemd starts as PID 1 immediately after the kernel boots, managing the startup, shutdown, and supervision of all other processes.Mass Adoption: It is the default in almost all mainstream desktop and server distributions. Beyond Init: Systemd is a suite of tools (over 69 binaries) that covers logging (journald), device management (udevd), network configuration (networkd), | Apr 10 04:51 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | and user sessions (logind). Resource Management: It uses cgroups (control groups) v2 to manage resources (CPU, memory, I/O) for services, which is deeply integrated into modern Linux kernel features. | Apr 10 04:51 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | 2. Deep Integration and Dependencies Service Management: It uses unit files (.service, .socket, .mount, .timer) to manage services and dependencies, making it hard to replace without changing how software is packaged.Desktop Environments: Major desktop environments like GNOME are heavily reliant on systemd components (like logind or dbus) for session management, making running them without systemd difficult. Log Management: jou | Apr 10 04:51 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | rnald is the default logging mechanism, replacing or supplementing traditional syslog. Cron Replacement: Systemd timers are frequently used to replace traditional cron jobs for scheduling tasks. | Apr 10 04:51 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | 3. Areas of Low Reliance (Alternatives) While dominant, systemd is not universal. Some specialized distributions avoid it, particularly in embedded or server environments that prioritize a "do one thing and do it well" philosophy (Unix philosophy). Alternatives: Systems like Slackware and Gentoo use System V init, while Alpine Linux uses OpenRC. Others may use runit or dinit. Embedded Systems: Due to its size (roughly 1.3 milli | Apr 10 04:51 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | on lines of code in 2020), some embedded devices may use lighter alternatives, although systemd is increasingly used there too. | Apr 10 04:51 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | In summary, for the average Linux user or administrator, systemd is indispensable, as the entire operating system base is configured to revolve around its components. | Apr 10 04:51 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | Distributions That Do Not Use systemd | Apr 10 04:51 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | Because systemd is modular, several distributions explicitly avoid it to maintain a smaller footprint or adhere to the Unix philosophy: | Apr 10 04:51 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | Alpine Linux: Uses OpenRC and is popular for lightweight containers. Gentoo: Offers OpenRC as a default but supports systemd as an option. Slackware: Uses traditional BSD-style init scripts. Artix and Devuan: Forks of Arch and Debian, respectively, created specifically to provide versions of those distros without systemd. Android: Uses its own custom init system and does not rely on systemd at all. " | Apr 10 04:51 |
| schestowitz[TR3] | https://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36955/ | Apr 10 04:51 |
| *TechBN has quit (connection closed) | Apr 10 04:51 | |
| *TechBN (~b0t@iijacan2vrgta.irc) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 10 04:51 | |
| -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Failed to load module HelloWorld. Reason: Not found! | Apr 10 04:51 | |
| -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Module HelloWorld has been removed until restarted! | Apr 10 04:51 | |
| *liberty_box_ (~liberty@uwb8s9bfzeyh4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 10 07:51 | |
| *liberty_box_ has quit (connection closed) | Apr 10 07:51 | |
| *psydroid3 (~psydroid@36imbvshpgubk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 10 12:29 | |
| *psydroid3 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.2.6 Quasar http://www.kvirc.net/) | Apr 10 21:58 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 | ䷉ find the plain text version at this address (HTTP) or in Gemini (how to use Gemini) with a full GemText version.