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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EuroPleasureMac/status/1270446910529310721Jun 10 01:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EuroPleasureMac: Microsoft. Good things. $MSFT #EGS #Divest https://t.co/RIsict6l1dJun 10 01:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Killing loads of people with #microsoft -hosted #Kubernetes https://t.co/Sptkr81O6f #deletegithubJun 10 01:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/1270439890187059202Jun 10 01:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TechJournalist: interesting story…but…missing some key facts… @official_php 3.x (and forward) started a trend where Zend (led by… https://t.co/ybfs1C4KeeJun 10 01:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TechJournalist: interesting story…but…missing some key facts… @official_php 3.x (and forward) started a trend where Zend (led by… https://t.co/ybfs1C4KeeJun 10 01:07
schestowitz"Jun 10 01:07
schestowitzinteresting story…but…missing some key facts…Jun 10 01:07
schestowitz@official_phpJun 10 01:07
schestowitz 3.x (and forward) started a trend where Zend (led by @andigutmansJun 10 01:07
schestowitz & @zeevsJun 10 01:07
schestowitz who rewrote the core of what Rasmus Lerdorf had..) led development efforts.Jun 10 01:07
schestowitzPHP’s success & longevity owes a lot to them.Jun 10 01:07
schestowitz"Jun 10 01:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1270411077340336128Jun 10 01:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz @BryanLunduke You're still fighting OSS wars that ended years ago, you're dragging up a tweet from 200… https://t.co/HlQp1o6YRvJun 10 01:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz @BryanLunduke You're still fighting OSS wars that ended years ago, you're dragging up a tweet from 200… https://t.co/HlQp1o6YRvJun 10 01:07
schestowitz"You're still fighting OSS wars that ended years ago, you're dragging up a tweet from 2009 to attack what is not the "same presentation," but a bit that is updated each year (much like Steven Corbert's nightly monolog is pretty much "Trump Sucks," but it's different each night."Jun 10 01:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_chimchimtim_/status/1270402168336666627Jun 10 01:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@_chimchimtim_: @BryanAn81372501 @D4thewin @davidmweissman @realDonaldTrump @OANN @shakyarahul1995 @GodOfDankBud1 @schestowitz… https://t.co/BnGasv9swdJun 10 01:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@_chimchimtim_: @BryanAn81372501 @D4thewin @davidmweissman @realDonaldTrump @OANN @shakyarahul1995 @GodOfDankBud1 @schestowitz… https://t.co/BnGasv9swdJun 10 01:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gallifreyan/status/1270391363440242688Jun 10 01:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gallifreyan: Ironic to post a bleat like this complaining that someone else craves traffic. Someone hurt your feelings, Roy? Y… https://t.co/ipWnNhMkzPJun 10 01:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gallifreyan: Ironic to post a bleat like this complaining that someone else craves traffic. Someone hurt your feelings, Roy? Y… https://t.co/ipWnNhMkzPJun 10 01:08
schestowitz"Jun 10 01:08
schestowitzIronic to post a bleat like this complaining that someone else craves traffic. Jun 10 01:08
schestowitzSomeone hurt your feelings, Roy? You can get ointment delivered during the lockdowns if you need it.Jun 10 01:08
schestowitz"Jun 10 01:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BryanLunduke/status/1270390207527784449Jun 10 01:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BryanLunduke: Apparently, like 12 years back, I called this guy a "poo poo head". I don't remember that... but totally seems lik… https://t.co/qK7K5OLmMrJun 10 01:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BryanLunduke: Apparently, like 12 years back, I called this guy a "poo poo head". I don't remember that... but totally seems lik… https://t.co/qK7K5OLmMrJun 10 01:08
schestowitz"Jun 10 01:08
schestowitzApparently, like 12 years back, I called this guy a "poo poo head".Jun 10 01:08
schestowitzI don't remember that... but totally seems like something I'd call a poo poo head!  :)Jun 10 01:08
schestowitz"Jun 10 01:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/templemore85/status/1270377946629406720Jun 10 01:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@templemore85: @AmbyR00 @schestowitz My thoughts exactly.Jun 10 01:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AmbyR00/status/1270377335573884928Jun 10 01:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmbyR00: @templemore85 @schestowitz With all the major Free, Libre and Open Source Software leaders replaced / out of the wa… https://t.co/yuQPwmCIXyJun 10 01:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmbyR00: @templemore85 @schestowitz With all the major Free, Libre and Open Source Software leaders replaced / out of the wa… https://t.co/yuQPwmCIXyJun 10 01:10
schestowitz"With all the major Free, Libre and Open Source Software leaders replaced / out of the way, and github in their pocket Microsoft can start moving all the important codebase to github, then making tiny but significant changes to the GPL, and eventually own the whole codebase."Jun 10 01:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1270355035063570437Jun 10 01:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AdrienneGT: The #WHO statement by @DrTedros "Africa can not and will not be a testing ground for any vaccine" pointed to a hist… https://t.co/z786RMQAuFJun 10 01:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AdrienneGT: The #WHO statement by @DrTedros "Africa can not and will not be a testing ground for any vaccine" pointed to a hist… https://t.co/z786RMQAuFJun 10 01:11
schestowitz"Jun 10 01:11
schestowitzThe #WHO statement by @DrTedrosJun 10 01:11
schestowitz "Africa can not and will not be a testing ground for any vaccine" pointed to a history of using the black continent as a guinea pig pen. Is anyone really surprised? #BLM as guinea pigs!!Jun 10 01:11
schestowitz"Jun 10 01:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/samvittighed/status/1270338605383327746Jun 10 01:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@samvittighed: @schestowitz This is not necessarily a bad thing: If the person accepts the risks, this can speed up development A… https://t.co/RGiIX1omnXJun 10 01:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@samvittighed: @schestowitz This is not necessarily a bad thing: If the person accepts the risks, this can speed up development A… https://t.co/RGiIX1omnXJun 10 01:11
schestowitz"This is not necessarily a bad thing: If the person accepts the risks, this can speed up development A LOT. And in term this can save many many more."Jun 10 01:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jvantill/status/1270291342506242053Jun 10 01:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jvantill: @schestowitz Dis-obedience is much more powerful than violence. Media, police and authoritarian politicians LOVE violence.Jun 10 01:11
schestowitz"Jun 10 01:11
schestowitzDis-obedience is much more powerful than violence.Jun 10 01:12
schestowitzMedia, police and authoritarian politicians LOVE violence.Jun 10 01:12
schestowitz"Jun 10 01:12
schestowitz> I always check my spam folder if an email I'm expecting doesn't arrive.Jun 10 01:32
schestowitz> It isn't there.Jun 10 01:32
schestowitzIn that case, Yahoo just blocks our server for mail.Jun 10 01:32
schestowitz> Zoobab is right. Organisations do not rehabilitate themselves likeJun 10 01:34
schestowitz> people do. A corrupted, coopted not-for-profit will always beJun 10 01:34
schestowitz> compromised. The only future Stallman's movement has is newJun 10 01:34
schestowitz> organisations. He should be starting one now.Jun 10 01:34
schestowitz> Jun 10 01:34
schestowitz> He will not fix this, but that doesn't mean everybody else has to makeJun 10 01:34
schestowitz> the wrong move as well.Jun 10 01:35
schestowitzBut is FSF compromised?Jun 10 01:35
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schestowitzhttps://mamot.fr/@fredericbezies/104289744313178677Jun 10 06:06
schestowitz"Jun 10 06:06
schestowitz which are not strictly speaking GNU/Linux powered devices.Jun 10 06:06
schestowitzAndroid is not a GNU/Linux distribution as far as I know. But I could be wrong.Jun 10 06:06
schestowitz"Jun 10 06:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mamot.fr | Frederic Bezies: "@tuxmachines@mastodon.technology which are not st…" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media FédéréJun 10 06:06
schestowitzIt is a distribution with Linux in itJun 10 06:06
schestowitzhttps://fosstodon.org/@rage/104297092566077842Jun 10 06:07
schestowitz" R.I.P."Jun 10 06:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fosstodon.org | Lucas Ramage 「ルーカス」:gentoo:: "@tuxmachines@mastodon.technology R.I.P." - FosstodonJun 10 06:07
schestowitzhttps://fosstodon.org/@PublicNuisance/104298362697364725Jun 10 06:07
schestowitz"Jun 10 06:07
schestowitzCommence operation Extend !Jun 10 06:07
schestowitzJun 10 06:07
schestowitz"Jun 10 06:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fosstodon.org | PublicNuisance: "@tuxmachines@mastodon.technology Commence opera…" - FosstodonJun 10 06:07
schestowitzhttps://fosstodon.org/@greypilgrim/104310532453599487Jun 10 06:08
schestowitz" Bit of a stretch there"Jun 10 06:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fosstodon.org | greypilgrim: "@tuxmachines@mastodon.technology Bit of a stretch…" - FosstodonJun 10 06:08
schestowitzRe: Nothing in commonJun 10 07:16
schestowitz> I won't name the name, but you would never believe who is trying to makeJun 10 07:16
schestowitz> the argument that people are trying to "cancel Molly" the way theyJun 10 07:16
schestowitz> cancelled RMS.Jun 10 07:16
schestowitz> Jun 10 07:16
schestowitz> I don't personally believe they are trying to "cancel" her, nor do IJun 10 07:16
schestowitz> believe it would work if they did. But other than that, they still haveJun 10 07:16
schestowitz> nothing at all in common. It's quite relevant (it's not the only thingJun 10 07:16
schestowitz> of course) that the bulk of the case against RMS is based on twistingJun 10 07:16
schestowitz> people's words around. It has basically nothing to do with RMS abusingJun 10 07:16
schestowitz> power or misusing it against good people.Jun 10 07:16
schestowitz> Jun 10 07:16
schestowitz> The source is just as peculiar as the argument itself, though. I wouldJun 10 07:16
schestowitz> have to change my mind mine to name it-- I have no such plans, thatJun 10 07:16
schestowitz> isn't a cause I feel is necessary to take up. Perhaps you already knowJun 10 07:16
schestowitz> where it's coming from.Jun 10 07:16
schestowitzI think I know.Jun 10 07:16
schestowitz>> I think I know.Jun 10 08:28
schestowitz> Jun 10 08:28
schestowitz> You might guess, though the most likely reason is you heard already as well. At any rate, the argument is just very odd, and I don't agree with its logic (nor that it's logical).Jun 10 08:28
schestowitz[08:29] <AVRS> I've seen an article about a Web-browser (Electron?)-based Conky implementation, with JS instead of LuaJun 10 08:54
schestowitz[08:30] <AVRS> Nothing especially bad, but like WindowsJun 10 08:54
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18328797Jun 10 09:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@freelabs@diasporapod.no: nice quote! > The everybody is sexist part is a bit like "original sin" -- where everyone is presumed guilty just for being born. We need to presume innocence and go by evidence #techrights #ircJun 10 09:11
schestowitz"Jun 10 09:11
schestowitznice quote!Jun 10 09:11
schestowitzThe everybody is sexist part is a bit like “original sin” – where everyone is presumed guilty just for being born. We need to presume innocence and go by evidenceJun 10 09:11
schestowitz#techrights #ircJun 10 09:11
schestowitz"Jun 10 09:11
schestowitz                <li>Jun 10 09:56
schestowitz                  <h5><a href="https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-world-is-really-changing-why-linux-on-desktop-is-taking-a-leap-forward/">'The world is really changing': Why Linux on desktop is taking a sudden leap forward</a></h5>Jun 10 09:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-world-is-really-changing-why-linux-on-desktop-is-taking-a-leap-forward/">'the )Jun 10 09:56
schestowitz                  <blockquote>Jun 10 09:56
schestowitz                    <p>This takes a significant investment in people, not to mention financial commitment, explains Herman. "To have that best-in-class hardware, software interoperability, to have that driver availability… you have to have a development team behind that, so we've made the investment there," he says. </p>Jun 10 09:56
schestowitz                    <p> "We've really tightened our partnerships with companies like Canonical and Red Hat to improve our overall response and our overall platform development." </p></blockquote></li>Jun 10 09:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18329452Jun 10 11:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Trolls still attacking Rowling, and still given free press coverage for their attacks." -iophk Jun 10 11:15
schestowitz"good facts and real facts https://invidio.us/watch?v=0jhwonPp3Bs"Jun 10 11:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-invidio.us | Babylon 5 - Good facts and real facts - InvidiousJun 10 11:15
schestowitz[09:57] <zoobab> pongJun 10 11:15
schestowitz[10:47] <schestowitz> hiJun 10 11:15
schestowitzhttps://mastodon.ml/@drq/104304982817951134Jun 10 11:21
schestowitz"Jun 10 11:21
schestowitzFollowJun 10 11:21
schestowitz@yogthos @copyme For the record, I don't really have a problem with somebody being rich. If you won big - good for you, nice porsche you got there.Jun 10 11:21
schestowitzBut the thing is, the games are not only about if you've won. They are also about how you did it. That's why there are rules to most games.Jun 10 11:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mastodon.ml | Dr. Quadragon: "@yogthos@mastodon.social @copyme@mastodon.online …" - Mastodon.mlJun 10 11:21
schestowitzI have only praise for people who worked hard their whole lives for their money, or invented something nobody ever even thought they need and got rich because of that. Jun 10 11:21
schestowitzThe 99% of cases are _not that_. Vast majority of billionaires got rich either by inheritance, or by hiring people to do shit for them and then cheaping out on them as far as they would allow, or via invented wealth like investment bubbles syphoning money that were never there in the first place, which is effectively an elaborate scam, or monopolizing some industry using patents, copyrights or exclusive deals, in which case you don'Jun 10 11:21
schestowitzt have to be better than others - you just have to be richer than other motherfuckers.Jun 10 11:21
schestowitz"Jun 10 11:21
schestowitz[11:31] <zoobab> I will send you the Tillman articleJun 10 11:32
schestowitz[11:31] <zoobab> and try to write a blog post to inflate the ItaliansJun 10 11:32
schestowitz[11:32] <schestowitz> ok, cheersJun 10 11:32
schestowitz[11:34] <zoobab> it's in german, but google translate is your friendJun 10 11:38
schestowitz[11:37] <schestowitz> it's not a friendJun 10 11:38
schestowitz[11:37] <schestowitz> but...Jun 10 11:38
schestowitz[11:37] <schestowitz> it would be useful to have human translation if I'm to do a rebuttal of any kindJun 10 11:38
schestowitz[11:38] <schestowitz> otherwise I cannot even repost this as fair useJun 10 11:38
schestowitz[11:38] <schestowitz> and it would be pointlessJun 10 11:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18329858Jun 10 12:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Moving to Linux is easier than you think https://it-online.co.za/2020/06/10/moving-to-linux-is-easier-than-you-think/ #gnu #linux #suse Jun 10 12:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/183moving it away from monopolies or getting people to call it by its real name? a lot more challenging."29858Jun 10 12:33
schestowitz"moving it away from monopolies or getting people to call it by its real name? a lot more challenging."Jun 10 12:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> it-online.co.za | Moving to Linux is easier than you think - IT-OnlineJun 10 12:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18329858\Jun 10 12:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post?Jun 10 12:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Moving to Linux is easier than you think https://it-online.co.za/2020/06/10/moving-to-linux-is-easier-than-you-think/ #gnu #linux #suse Jun 10 12:33
schestowitztribalismJun 10 12:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18329858Jun 10 12:33
schestowitz[15:21] <zoobab> you got my mail?Jun 10 16:02
schestowitz[16:02] <schestowitz> I will check tomorrow, I read mail once a dayJun 10 16:02
schestowitz[21:00] <AVRS> Russian feminists seem to be the same idiot third-wave extremists as the US ones. They translate everything from English -- and some MPs seemed to have translated their crappy anti-family-abuse act, which was getting more and more convoluted, with items mixed up, with every edition.Jun 10 21:02
schestowitz[21:01] <AVRS> (I noticed the act had translated terms a few years ago; haven't checked later, only read a post about its worsening)Jun 10 21:02
schestowitz[21:02] <AVRS> Just like the black racists on Twitter now.Jun 10 21:02
schestowitz[21:02] <AVRS> "whites and their whiteness!"Jun 10 21:03
schestowitz[21:03] <AVRS> (maybe that's a term…)Jun 10 21:24
schestowitz[21:06] <AVRS> Fortunately, not all Russian Wikipedia's articles have "maintainers" who have taken them over at all times.Jun 10 21:24
schestowitz[21:06] <AVRS> Nobody has reverted my recent edits to Richard Stallman yet.Jun 10 21:24
schestowitz[21:07] <AVRS> Despite me not providing all of the sources.Jun 10 21:24
schestowitz[21:09] <AVRS> Even the article on GamerGate has the GamerGate side presented, including a Russian article written by a female journal that was criticised for that (it included an article "sexual objectification is great!" that IGN had removed when ordered by the US headquarters).Jun 10 21:24
schestowitz[21:10] <AVRS> However, it's an ordinary thing to see edits reverted without an edit summary by those who have take an article over.Jun 10 21:24
schestowitz[21:11] <AVRS> *takenJun 10 21:24
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36677/Jun 10 22:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: This is why I love the Linux Mint developers: Snapping at Canonical's Snap: Linux Mint team says no to Ubuntu store 'backdoor'Jun 10 22:22
schestowitz'Jun 10 22:22
schestowitzThe Linux Mint developers have always had a user priority focus, and this is why Mint has been my primary OS for years now. They try to cleanse the stupid from Canonical's never-ending experiments that benefit Canonical, but don't benefit users.Jun 10 22:22
schestowitzI feel the time is coming near that Mint will make LMDE their primary focus for this reason.Jun 10 22:22
schestowitz"Jun 10 22:22

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