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Techrights-sec | which article is RMS referring to ? | Jun 10 08:57 |
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schestowitz | are you OK with the unicode I added to the front page of the capsule? It's not emoji, it's fairly widely supported unicode and I tested with a few clients/browsers. regarding rms, it's about bill gates. | Jun 10 11:30 |
Techrights-sec | Most of the new symbols added do not render on amfora. | Jun 10 11:32 |
Techrights-sec | They show up as the weird squares. | Jun 10 11:32 |
Techrights-sec | The small "log" one is interesting though. | Jun 10 11:32 |
Techrights-sec | I am curious what the implications are for accessibility are, say | Jun 10 11:32 |
Techrights-sec | with a screen reader. I don't have one set up here. | Jun 10 11:32 |
schestowitz | amphora works for me with all those symbols. Which terminal/OS are you on? openbsd? | Jun 10 11:33 |
schestowitz | *amfora | Jun 10 11:33 |
Techrights-sec | XFCE4term on UBuntu 21.04 | Jun 10 11:34 |
Techrights-sec | :( | Jun 10 11:34 |
Techrights-sec | XFCE4 is nice but Ubuntu is not my first choice. However, some non-technical | Jun 10 11:34 |
Techrights-sec | constraints require it. | Jun 10 11:34 |
schestowitz | I use xfce on one of my dual-head laptops and it's used to test some gemini stuff and display tmux | Jun 10 11:34 |
Techrights-sec | terminus does not like the new unicode additions either | Jun 10 11:36 |
Techrights-sec | nor does alacritty, but the squares are tidier | Jun 10 11:37 |
schestowitz | Try "XFCE Terminal". It look and behaves best for me. | Jun 10 11:37 |
schestowitz | BTW, I was inspired by some high-profile capsules. I had spare time and decided to see how they enrich the experience somewhat. I can still think of further improvements and I pushed a few things (not all) to git | Jun 10 11:38 |
Techrights-sec | xfce4-terminal is my main terminal these days, it does not render the new chars | Jun 10 11:39 |
Techrights-sec | either | Jun 10 11:39 |
Techrights-sec | Maybe it is XFCE4 or Ubuntu itself having the problems? | Jun 10 11:39 |
schestowitz | sounds like an OS thing | Jun 10 11:39 |
Techrights-sec | Gemini/gemini-main-index-template.sh | Jun 10 12:02 |
Techrights-sec | My guess is that it would be better for screen readers that the unkown | Jun 10 12:02 |
Techrights-sec | characters and emojis come after (to the right of) the normal text. | Jun 10 12:02 |
schestowitz | initially I thought the same, but unlike a whole word encoded in unicode these are single chars. Also, I saw others doing the same. Some still do whole words with unicode -- a thing we dropped | Jun 10 12:03 |
Techrights-sec | Maybe when I go back indoors I can try out a RPi and see if it has a | Jun 10 12:06 |
Techrights-sec | built-in screen reader. | Jun 10 12:06 |
Techrights-sec | I | Jun 10 12:28 |
Techrights-sec | I've got Devuan on one but can swap out the card for a temporary system. | Jun 10 12:28 |
schestowitz | we might want to ask a blind person | Jun 10 12:28 |
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Techrights-sec | Probably the onus is on our part instead to find out what the established | Jun 10 13:02 |
Techrights-sec | best practices are. This late in the game it is very likely documented | Jun 10 13:02 |
Techrights-sec | somewhere. | Jun 10 13:02 |
schestowitz | I am very eager to enhance the capsule by making it easier to navigate. I'm open to ideas of course and next time will ask you before making changed. I was thinking, how about we make the intro at the top a separate page? Also, we can make it closer in line with analogous www pages. | Jun 10 13:04 |
schestowitz | (of course seeing growing traffic every month contributes to the motivation to enhance this capsule and invest more time in this) | Jun 10 13:05 |
Techrights-sec | Yes, it is one of the more prominent Gemini capsules and that helps further | Jun 10 13:08 |
Techrights-sec | the reach of the message of software freedom. | Jun 10 13:08 |
Techrights-sec | As for the emojis: | Jun 10 13:08 |
Techrights-sec | https://blog.easterseals.com/emojis-and-accessibility-the-dos-and-donts-of-including-emojis-in-texts-and-emails/ | Jun 10 13:08 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.easterseals.com | Emojis and Accessibility: The Dos and Don’ts of Including Emojis in Texts and Emails | Easterseals Blog | Jun 10 13:08 | |
Techrights-sec | https://www.cbc.ca/radio/spark/381-the-bad-design-behind-hawaii-s-missile-scare-internet-freedom-in-iran-and-more-1.4491385/loud | Jun 10 13:08 |
Techrights-sec | ly-crying-face-your-cute-emojis-are-spoiling-social-media-for-blind-users-1.4491393 | Jun 10 13:08 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.cbc.ca/radio/spark/381-the-bad-design-behind-hawaii-s-missile-scare-internet-freedom-in-iran-and-more-1.4491385/loud ) | Jun 10 13:08 | |
schestowitz | I intentionally chose NOT emoji Unicode | Jun 10 13:08 |
schestowitz | as I can imagine some screen readers can also interpret them and, failing that, they're not critical either, as they have a descriptive text next to them | Jun 10 13:09 |
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Techrights-sec | "Do put any important information before the emojis so well be more likely to hear them;" | Jun 10 13:10 |
Techrights-sec | I figure a lot of the same principles apply due to /how/ they are used. | Jun 10 13:10 |
Techrights-sec | The encoding is less important than the role. The characters are being | Jun 10 13:10 |
Techrights-sec | used /as/ emojis. | Jun 10 13:10 |
schestowitz | I suppose that all those fancy ascii thing at top of capsule is also a no-no then, but I saw many doing just that, along with unicode as fancy 'text' | Jun 10 13:11 |
schestowitz | are you ok with me making subpages from the intro at the top? | Jun 10 13:13 |
Techrights-sec | sure, what kind of subpages? | Jun 10 13:15 |
Techrights-sec | The fancy ASCII art has already been removed at popular request, recall | Jun 10 13:15 |
Techrights-sec | the updated post acknowledging the correction. | Jun 10 13:15 |
Techrights-sec | (can't recall the URL though) | Jun 10 13:15 |
schestowitz | FSF award winner | Jun 10 13:15 |
Techrights-sec | I wonder if ANSII codes are allowed or even supported. :> | Jun 10 13:16 |
schestowitz | I think we need to leap "STRAIGHT TO CONTENT" but also give something to click if you are new; no need to show it over and over again to regulars... | Jun 10 13:17 |
Techrights-sec | An intro or about.gmi page linked from the main page would be nice. | Jun 10 13:17 |
schestowitz | I think I'd like to add that also to the front page of www, which is a single file, which your mobile version of it (3 panes) | Jun 10 13:18 |
schestowitz | but it needs to be written very carefully and thoughtfully as our vision changes a bit over time, focus as well | Jun 10 13:18 |
xyz | WTF IS THIS SHIT? | Jun 10 13:18 |
schestowitz | internal comms | Jun 10 13:19 |
xyz | for what??? | Jun 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | about our gemini capsue | Jun 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | <li> | Jun 10 13:19 |
xyz | sage | Jun 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | <h5><a href="https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/09/what-you-do-after-work-shouldnt-cost-you-your-job/">What You Do after Work Shouldn't Cost You Your Job</a></h5> | Jun 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | <blockquote> | Jun 10 13:19 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.counterpunch.org | What 12 Years as a Slave Taught Django - CounterPunch.org | Jun 10 13:19 | |
schestowitz | <p>I hope she wins. Karening is gross. But it’s not your boss’ business.</p> | Jun 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | <p>Amy Cooper became the object of an Internet two-minutes hate last year when she called 911 on a Black birdwatcher who asked her to leash her dog per the rules and told the police he was threatening her and her dog. Unfortunately for her, the guy’s cellphone video showed no such thing.</p></blockquote></li> | Jun 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | oops | Jun 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | wrong paste | Jun 10 13:19 |
xyz | PASTING 3 OR MORE LINES OF TEXT TO IRC ლ(ಠ_ಠლ)ლ(ಠ_ಠლ) | Jun 10 13:19 |
xyz | IS THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF NETSPLITS, CUT (ノ °益°)ノ 彡 ┻━┻ | Jun 10 13:19 |
xyz | IT OUT! YOU'RE DESTROYING THIS IRC NET (⋋▂⋌)(⋋▂⋌) | Jun 10 13:19 |
xyz | UZE A GODDAMN MUHFUQING PASTEBIN FFS!! ヽ(ಠ_ಠ)ノ | Jun 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | ok | Jun 10 13:20 |
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schestowitz | What happened in gemini://gemini.techrights.org/techbytes/index.gmi ? And why? I cannot figure it out, it's just this page... | Jun 10 13:28 |
schestowitz | rerunning main cron fixed that issue, but I wonder how that happened in the first place. First time I see such a crease ironed out by rerun, no change to code. | Jun 10 13:41 |
schestowitz | turns out xyz is just a bot https://wiki.znc.in/ZNC | Jun 10 14:12 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-wiki.znc.in | ZNC | Jun 10 14:12 | |
schestowitz | "You can find us in #znc on Libera.Chat. (New as of May 2021! Our old freenode channel got closed by the new freenode management...)" | Jun 10 14:13 |
schestowitz | Oh, well... I can see why... | Jun 10 14:13 |
schestowitz | "send pull requests on github" | Jun 10 14:13 |
schestowitz | Microsoft proprietary software | Jun 10 14:13 |
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xyz | lol @ schestowitz | Jun 10 15:04 |
MinceR | DDoS is more likely to cause netsplits than long pastes | Jun 10 15:28 |
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xyz | STFU MinceR You bastard! | Jun 10 15:38 |
MinceR | lol | Jun 10 15:41 |
xyz | :-D | Jun 10 15:41 |
schestowitz | not sure if troll, bot, or both | Jun 10 16:05 |
schestowitz | is "Botroll" a thing? | Jun 10 16:05 |
xyz | we prefer the term trollbot | Jun 10 17:32 |
xyz | like killbot, but less violent | Jun 10 17:33 |
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Techrights-sec | what was the date stamp on the malformed file? | Jun 10 19:18 |
Techrights-sec | do the logs on the RPi have any errors? | Jun 10 19:18 |
Techrights-sec | the cron job is just the one script. | Jun 10 19:18 |
Techrights-sec | though it does call several sub-scripts | Jun 10 19:18 |
schestowitz | I did not check log files | Jun 10 19:19 |
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