●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 ●● ● Jan 11 [00:07] techrigthssec nonetheless it is important to document that [00:29] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [00:30] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@fpfsqjchsbkme.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:59] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [00:59] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [00:59] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [00:59] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@fpfsqjchsbkme.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 11 [01:37] schestowitz-TR Massive Increase in Deaths After COVID-19, Even as We Enter 2023 (Many Die Suddenly at Home, Including Young People) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/11/young-people-risk/ [01:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Massive Increase in Deaths After COVID-19, Even as We Enter 2023 (Many Die Suddenly at Home, Including Young People) ● Jan 11 [03:36] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:39] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@zx4r4gr9htgby.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 11 [05:10] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:10] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:28] schestowitz-TR going to add my next post to draft [05:28] schestowitz-TR you might want to see it earlie, video is longh and still processing [05:28] schestowitz-TR added to drafts, still untitled, so it's an "open book" [05:29] techrigthssec There's a lot to be said for the ability to concentrate the points down to [05:29] techrigthssec an 8 to 10 minute video... [05:29] techrigthssec Checkingf [05:29] techrigthssec s/say about/say about the shortcomings with/ ? [05:30] schestowitz-TR thanks, corrected [05:30] schestowitz-TR it'll take a long while to upload [05:34] schestowitz-TR Excess deaths, different countries and different age groups https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/11/young-people-risk/ ● Jan 11 [06:09] schestowitz-TR "One of the nice things about USB-C is its simplicity, right? No more figuring out which side is up to plug into a device. The connector is super-friendly. But thats where the simplicity stops." https://dissociatedpress.net/2023/01/10/usb-c-is-simple-right-well/ [06:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dissociatedpress.net | USB-C is simple, right? Well... : Dissociated Press [06:30] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@fpfsqjchsbkme.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:30] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 11 [08:05] schestowitz-TR email fwd'ed [08:05] schestowitz-TR good news [08:05] schestowitz-TR i have some unread rms msg too [08:05] schestowitz-TR day started ok so far [08:08] schestowitz-TR it would be nice to see any sort of public shaming of epo [08:08] schestowitz-TR even better: eff catching up with epo and upc [08:08] schestowitz-TR and then issuing condemnation [08:08] schestowitz-TR of not just the censorship [08:08] schestowitz-TR but also the policy [08:08] schestowitz-TR and the upc lobby [08:08] schestowitz-TR i can dream, can't i? [08:08] schestowitz-TR they need to ask craig and mark and eric schmidy first [08:08] schestowitz-TR *dt [08:08] schestowitz-TR "satya said ja!" [08:51] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [08:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:55] schestowitz-TR microsoft bribes [08:55] schestowitz-TR "incentivises" [08:55] schestowitz-TR it costs them [08:55] schestowitz-TR not to downplay the problem [08:55] schestowitz-TR but azure is overprovisioned [08:55] schestowitz-TR that they run useless junk on it [08:55] schestowitz-TR hey hi [08:55] schestowitz-TR and then pay the media to hype them as as hey hi company [08:55] schestowitz-TR lots of hey hi trash lately [08:55] schestowitz-TR even schneir yesterdaty and some more today [08:55] schestowitz-TR rebranding [08:55] schestowitz-TR and unused server capacity [08:55] schestowitz-TR if you build it, they will come <- not microsoft ● Jan 11 [09:10] techrigthssec http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-100123.html#tJan%2010%2011:28:07 [09:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 [09:11] psydruid I'm thinking that Intel and also AMD launch their server products mainly for Azure these days [09:12] psydruid Amazon is moving whatever it can to in-house processors [09:12] schestowitz-TR yes, arm-based as well [09:12] schestowitz-TR to save money [09:12] schestowitz-TR and control everything [09:12] schestowitz-TR but I'd not trust amazon chips, either [09:13] schestowitz-TR it's not you controlling the server [09:13] schestowitz-TR but amazon controlling the entire stack [09:13] schestowitz-TR through licensing [09:13] psydruid I wouldn't trust the clown [09:13] schestowitz-TR and trade secrets [09:13] schestowitz-TR techrigthssec: [09:13] schestowitz-TR yes, he explained afterwards [09:13] schestowitz-TR i think it's the first time I hear that in relation to s/w bugs [09:13] schestowitz-TR good to have todo lists [09:13] schestowitz-TR helps lessen impatience, defer some tasks or give x days before action [09:13] schestowitz-TR eff did reply after 36 hours [09:13] schestowitz-TR a name i never saw before (the sender) [09:15] techrigthssec A week of coding can save an hour of planning [09:15] techrigthssec 36 hours is not an unreasonable delay but the reply does seem to be a placeholder and not an actual response to t [09:15] techrigthssec he question [09:15] schestowitz-TR there is a ticket/reference number [09:15] schestowitz-TR in the subject line [09:15] schestowitz-TR but they did that before [09:16] schestowitz-TR and nothing really happened later [09:16] schestowitz-TR maybe they just asked if things turned out ok [09:16] schestowitz-TR so they can close the ticket [09:16] schestowitz-TR and claim "eff helped" [09:16] schestowitz-TR without actually doing anything [09:16] schestowitz-TR just parking there near you [09:17] techrigthssec Probably, but again contacting them is not so much about having expectations [09:17] techrigthssec of help or competence from them but merely documenting their reaction or lack of [09:17] techrigthssec one. ● Jan 11 [10:29] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:50] *qa2 has quit (Quit: ) [10:50] *Moocher5254 (~quassel@i7sfqsqsuqk4i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:55] schestowitz-TR thanks for the spot checks etc. [10:55] schestowitz-TR very productive day today [10:55] schestowitz-TR irc has been...... interesting [10:55] schestowitz-TR needed some prodding back into tech domain [10:55] schestowitz-TR we now have about 20 topics to cover [10:55] schestowitz-TR but they can be diced further [10:55] schestowitz-TR and we don't yet the best order to present them in [10:55] schestowitz-TR we put up the chinese calendar yesterday [10:55] schestowitz-TR our lawyer gave that as a gift [10:55] schestowitz-TR they still wear masks, as everybody should [10:55] schestowitz-TR and also sit across a long table [10:55] techrigthssec np [10:56] schestowitz-TR elizabeth from microsoft in SN is a good sign [10:56] schestowitz-TR it means SN pains them [10:56] schestowitz-TR to the point where they need to 'turf it [10:57] schestowitz-TR i am still trying to sniff out more info on the msft layoffs [10:57] schestowitz-TR the media is more dead than elvis ● Jan 11 [11:00] schestowitz-TR grepping http logs for "layoff", wc -l, 21.5k [11:00] schestowitz-TR something is already happening [11:03] techrigthssec ack [11:03] techrigthssec Yep. [11:16] schestowitz-TR apropos 20k, wiki for sirius just passed 20k [11:16] schestowitz-TR and we haver so much left to show [11:16] schestowitz-TR i know under the surface or glacier in msft there is a very big story [11:16] schestowitz-TR the layoffs [11:16] schestowitz-TR i will contact some people this week [11:16] schestowitz-TR lewis is also planning to write some stuff [11:16] schestowitz-TR regarding gates, no progress there yet [11:16] schestowitz-TR very private individuals [11:26] techrigthssec [11:26] techrigthssec ack [11:26] schestowitz-TR psydruid: any clues in .NL forums? [11:27] schestowitz-TR are the surfers fuming? [11:27] schestowitz-TR or turfers? [11:27] schestowitz-TR aggressive but coy [11:31] schestowitz-TR -- [11:31] schestowitz-TR news just in, divorces up 40+ % last year in uk (or england, or...) [11:31] schestowitz-TR we reckon it's that phenomenon where the woman stays as long as slob husband brings in income [11:31] schestowitz-TR and doesn't mess up the home [11:31] schestowitz-TR saw in firsthand in the past [11:31] schestowitz-TR because what rianne saw in "the news" said women initiated most divorces [11:31] schestowitz-TR my theory was (did not read it), maybe 2021 with restrictions was not convenient but in [11:31] schestowitz-TR 2022 they "finished the job" [11:31] schestowitz-TR the split in familities is good for the estate industry [11:31] schestowitz-TR more homes to rent [11:31] schestowitz-TR and lower house ownership [11:31] schestowitz-TR this, in turns, leads to further health crises and to kids brought up in tougher conditions [11:32] schestowitz-TR not sure where rianne found the article, but would be useful to compare to eu countries [11:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:40] techrigthssec ack [11:40] schestowitz-TR it also makes less productive societies [11:41] schestowitz-TR two homes to clean [11:41] schestowitz-TR less cooking or fewer servings per "session" [11:41] schestowitz-TR fewer people available to teach/help kids [11:41] schestowitz-TR or one to stay with them while the other runs errands [11:41] schestowitz-TR so this is worrisome, except some can make more sales this way [11:43] schestowitz-TR fewer tenants-> loer incentive to make good dishes -> health deteriorates [11:43] schestowitz-TR and that opens a whole new jar of worms [11:43] schestowitz-TR inc. labour crisis (many reportedly cannot work now due to health issues) [11:43] schestowitz-TR not limited to long covid [11:43] schestowitz-TR the figures are alarming; they want and need to work but cannot [11:58] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 11 [12:08] psydruid schestowitz-TR: NL is very Microsoft-minded, you get burned at the stame forma criticising Gates [12:08] psydruid Oops [12:09] psydruid at the stake for* [12:09] schestowitz-TR yes, .nl seems very americanised [12:09] schestowitz-TR based on statcounter [12:09] schestowitz-TR unlike france [12:09] schestowitz-TR french people don't trust anglos [12:09] schestowitz-TR they are more anglophobic [12:09] schestowitz-TR so france has better adoption of domestic stacks [12:09] schestowitz-TR with inria and such [12:09] schestowitz-TR the dutch even adopted american accents [12:10] schestowitz-TR and love american tv shows [12:10] psydruid the main reason why I'm not is because I'm a second-generation immigrant with a different (Asian Indian) ethnicity [12:10] schestowitz-TR so maybe they have a soft spot for micro-soft [12:10] schestowitz-TR the dutch are not so racist [12:10] schestowitz-TR thankfully [12:10] schestowitz-TR from my experience [12:10] psydruid not in your face at least [12:10] schestowitz-TR that's good too [12:10] schestowitz-TR in some countries it is uncloseted [12:11] psydruid I don't know where exactly I read it [12:11] psydruid but in the US everything seems to be about race first [12:12] psydruid if you are of a certain ethnicity you are expected to behave a certain way [12:12] psydruid ah, it was Erik Engheim's blog on Medium [12:12] schestowitz-TR my accent is not mancunian enough for some people [12:12] schestowitz-TR but they don't pick on people for accents here [12:12] schestowitz-TR because manchester is very diverse [12:12] psydruid https://erik-engheim.medium.com/why-are-dakotans-not-like-scandinavians-70d917aa12e5 [12:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-erik-engheim.medium.com | Why are Dakotans Not Like Scandinavians? | by Erik Engheim | Medium [12:13] psydruid I couldn't be bothered about accents and such [12:13] *schestowitz-TR looks for ethics us map [12:13] psydruid I speak standard languages [12:13] schestowitz-TR *ethnic [12:13] psydruid for every language I speak [12:14] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.svg [12:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | File:Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.svg - Wikipedia [12:14] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Most_common_ancestries_in_the_United_States.svg [12:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | File:Most common ancestries in the United States.svg - Wikipedia [12:15] schestowitz many more in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States#Ancestry_maps [12:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Race and ethnicity in the United States - Wikipedia ● Jan 11 [13:50] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.pussthecat.org/MarkBeacham/status/1613000123285389314#m [13:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.pussthecat.org | Mark Beacham - VK3XB/5Z4XB/A65B (@MarkBeacham): "Ham Radio: Links 10/01/2023: Yet More Security Issues in Rust https://ift.tt/Zuqcxf7" | Nitter | PussTheCat.org ● Jan 11 [14:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Jan 11 [15:03] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 11 [16:31] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 11 [17:51] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [17:51] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) ● Jan 11 [18:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@fpfsqjchsbkme.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [18:39] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [18:40] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Jan 11 [19:51] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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