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| schestowitz | [10:31] <schestowitz> wrt "ethical" source I just never name any names | Jul 11 00:05 |
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| schestowitz | [10:32] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2021/01/19/unethical-source/ | Jul 11 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | ‘Ethical Source’ is Not Ethical and Not a Movement But a Misguided Self-Serving PR Stunt | Techrights | Jul 11 00:05 | |
| schestowitz | [10:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i had made my first baby step to the dark side | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> you pulled me out of it just now. thanks for that | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:33] <schestowitz> mjg does the same to michael from phoronix http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ | Jul 11 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights | Jul 11 00:06 | |
| schestowitz | [10:34] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> yeah i mean mjg does all the secureboot stuff | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:34] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> which clearly benefits microsoft | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:34] <schestowitz> tldt: michael is responsible for everything ever uttered in the phoronix forums and what people say in IRC is my own stance somehow | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:35] <schestowitz> libreboot is the exact opposite of restricted boot | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:35] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> oh my | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:36] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> “Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion.” | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:36] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> this made my day | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:36] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> thanks | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:36] <schestowitz> he does technical sabotage | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:36] <schestowitz> I don't give a fuck who he fucks | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:36] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> yeah fuck mjg | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:36] <schestowitz> he sabotages for monopolies | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:36] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> oh, yeah he did that to me too | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:36] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> "my partner is non-binary lulz" | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:36] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> fuck off with that | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:37] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> *i'm* non-binary | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:37] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> oh, yeah did i tell you that? | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:37] <schestowitz> "i have black friends..." | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:37] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i'm not very public about it, because presenting female is easier, and doesn't cause me any pain doing so, but i actually identify non-binary. i came out as such a few months ago but thought better of it and reverted it, so now it's a well-known secret | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:38] <schestowitz> what matter is your good work | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:38] <schestowitz> we're all weird in some ways. weird in scare quotes | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:39] <schestowitz> rms is more weird than me, I think, but he lets me sit right now in front of 4 laptops running gnu with freedom | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:40] <schestowitz> turing made work on foundations of computers | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:40] <schestowitz> he was "weird" | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:40] <schestowitz> but... | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:40] <schestowitz> those attacks miss the point | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:40] <schestowitz> they wait to be attacked based on something (the trolls), so then they can call you things... | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:40] <schestowitz> you need to respond by focusing on moral and technical harms they do | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:41] <schestowitz> they will try to change the subject | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:41] <schestowitz> like mjg PMing Ryan about child pr0m | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [10:41] <schestowitz> and asking him hard question about the subject... out of the blue | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [11:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> well, thanks again for showing me my error | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [11:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> you pulled xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx off of a slippery slope earlier | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [11:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> also: | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [11:52] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> https://libreboot.org/docs/gnulinux/grub_hardening.html | Jul 11 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-libreboot.org | Libreboot – Hardening GNU GRUB | Jul 11 00:06 | |
| schestowitz | [11:52] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> https://libreboot.org/docs/gnulinux/encrypted_debian.html | Jul 11 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-libreboot.org | Libreboot – Encrypted Debian GNU+Linux | Jul 11 00:06 | |
| schestowitz | [11:52] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> follow these two guides and you'll have something far superior to that secureboot uefi bullshit | Jul 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | [11:52] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> (other distros can be used in this way too, debian is just an example) | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:53] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> mjg attacked libreboot on twitter, years ago | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:53] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> so fuck him | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:54] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> https://nitter.domain.glass/mjg59/search?f=tweets&q=libreboot&since=&until=&near= | Jul 11 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.domain.glass | Matthew Garrett (@mjg59) | nitter tweet view | Jul 11 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | [11:54] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> it's subtle because at the time he wanted to get a job at the fsf | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:54] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> fuck him | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:57] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> and fuck his SJW status. he's just pandering | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:57] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> fuck SJWs btw | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:57] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> here's what i think: | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:57] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> https://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/manifesto.html#we-are-not-social-justice-warriors-or-sjws | Jul 11 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/manifesto.html#we-are-not-social-justice-warriors-or-sjws ) | Jul 11 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | [11:57] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> that's a page from my website. my trans chat network | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:57] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> (which actually technically only just started, because of the whole irc split, and this is the new domain) | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:57] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> read that page. i talk about being an SJD instead | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:58] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> that's what i am. SJD. D means diplomat. i think you'll like what I wrote there... in 2016 | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:58] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> :) | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:58] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> (the domain name recently changed) | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> mjg59 can pretend to care about social stuff, and use it as a wedge to attack everyone i care about, including rms | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> but i'm the real fucking deal. and i'm a real free software hacker, not some pretender to the throne | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> anyway, thanks. you've made my day | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> keep being awesome :) | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:27] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> actually | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:28] <schestowitz> back | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:28] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i should have gone after mjg59 in my article, whe i did it. things were crazy back then, and i kinda glossed over some things. the opportunity is lost now | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:28] <schestowitz> was recording on EPO | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:28] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i could have mentioned some of mjg's shitty behaviours, since he was on that list opposing rms | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:28] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> oh well | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:29] <schestowitz> ryan wrore about hjm yesterday | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:29] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> oh? | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:30] <schestowitz> https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/07/07/social-justice-warrior-cling-ons-pitch-bad-financial-advice-and-products-using-victimhood-mentality/ context: http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ | Jul 11 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-baronhk.wordpress.com | Social Justice Warrior Cling-Ons pitch bad financial advice and products using victimhood mentality. – BaronHK's Rants | Jul 11 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | [12:33] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> nicely done | Jul 11 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights | Jul 11 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | [12:46] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> btw | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:46] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i happen to know for a fact that mjg59 doesn't work for google anymore. though i don't know who he currently works for, but i have seen this: | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:46] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> <mjg59> Just checking, you know I don't work for Google now? My current employer has no involvement in the free software space at all (I'm allowed to release my work as free software, and most of what I work on has no direct impact on our product) | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:47] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> this was recent | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:47] <schestowitz> the general modus operandi is, let'\s not consider if [pers] is correct but instead examine [pers] perceived view on some other issues and then rile up some masses/mobs tto cancel [pers] based on that other unrelated things, USUALLY based on a distortion | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:47] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> so yeah. who's side do you think this dude is on? | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:47] <schestowitz> the side of $ | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:47] <schestowitz> check career path | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:47] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> oh my god, don't use that pers bullshit lol | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:47] <schestowitz> always money | Jul 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:48] <schestowitz> pers is what RMS said | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:48] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> you know i don't support per/pers right? it makes me cringe. i'm not against it either, i just think rms is being very stupid | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:48] <schestowitz> and I used him as an example | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:48] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i say they/them. but it's ok | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:48] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> our enemies slay us heavily for it, but without good reason | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:48] <schestowitz> so they canceled him over that | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:48] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> yeah i know the tactic | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:48] <schestowitz> I used squared brackets | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:48] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> find one thing someone said and it's: | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:49] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mih9xvo7a8 | Jul 11 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | Your Love Is Cancelled - YouTube | Jul 11 00:08 | |
| schestowitz | [12:49] <schestowitz> I turned RMS into "pers" | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:49] <schestowitz> pronouns are possible to avoid entirely | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:50] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> invidious link https://ytprivate.com/watch?v=2mih9xvo7a8 | Jul 11 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ytprivate.com | Your Love Is Cancelled - YTPrivate | Jul 11 00:08 | |
| schestowitz | [12:50] <schestowitz> in my video I say "this person", the "Microsoft employee" | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:50] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> listen to the song lol. it's where "cancelled" comes from | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:50] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> the song itself is great | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:50] <schestowitz> mentioning gender if it is female leads to accusations of sexism, which ia another but related tactics | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:50] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> the term was originally used by black people as sort of a joke | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:51] <schestowitz> I also avoid all the loaded terms | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> no need to convince me btw | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:51] <schestowitz> for reasons I explained this week | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i'm on your side | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:51] <schestowitz> they are politicised | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:51] <schestowitz> "snowflake", "SJW", "cancel culture" | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> yeah | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:52] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> well snowflake was originally from the fight club movie, in tyler durden's rant where he said nobody is special and shouldn't have more rights than someone else | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:52] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> so it's actually ironic how the term is used nowadays | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:52] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> (it's used to silence people) | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:58] <schestowitz> maybe we should make a list of terms better to avoid | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:58] <schestowitz> like RMS does | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:58] <schestowitz> for politically-loaded terms | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:58] <schestowitz> that undermine debates over substance | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:58] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> yeah like the SJD thing | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:59] <schestowitz> did you write some? | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:59] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> yes | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:59] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> read this: | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:59] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> https://xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/manifesto.html#we-are-not-social-justice-warriors-or-sjws | Jul 11 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/manifesto.html#we-are-not-social-justice-warriors-or-sjws ) | Jul 11 00:08 | |
| schestowitz | [12:59] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> this is my trans chat network | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:59] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i wrote this section | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:59] <schestowitz> lots of that boils down to words that became stigma/insults | Jul 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [12:59] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> most people who identify SJW are actually SJD | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [12:59] <schestowitz> and to tackle the issue you need to work around the loaded terms | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [12:59] <schestowitz> then it makes you less touchable to them | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> SJW is an extreme terminology, a bogeyman invented by the alt-right | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> read that link | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:00] <schestowitz> CRT is another new one | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> what? | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> fucking hell no, now i can't find crt monitors | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> tell me anyway | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:01] <schestowitz> that page does not contain a list of words but focuses on one acronym | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:01] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> tell me about crt | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:02] <schestowitz> but what i had in mine was like http://techrights.org/wiki/A_Critic%27s_Free_Software_Dictionary | Jul 11 00:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | A Critic's Free Software Dictionary - Techrights | Jul 11 00:09 | |
| schestowitz | [13:02] <schestowitz> though merely listing those words can lead to condemnation | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:02] <schestowitz> "fascist" is a leftist one | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:02] <schestowitz> to call everyone | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:02] <schestowitz> even just some minor disagreement | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:03] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> right | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:03] <schestowitz> crt is an acronym now that the right uses to justify being bigots | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:03] <schestowitz> critical race theory | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:03] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> well, you know what i do when i see a alt-right and hard-left communicating in one of my channels? | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:03] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i'm on the political center line. i say: | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:04] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> based? woke? both sides are the same: useless cunts | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:04] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> something like that | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:04] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> then i ban them both | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:04] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> :D | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:04] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> thanks i'm reading the page now | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:05] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i think most people are normal | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:05] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> just normal people who want to get on with life, and mostly just not bother anyone | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:06] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> that includes oppressed people, whose voices are sidelined by those, on both sides, who have an agenda, and the oppressors co-opt both sides | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:06] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> there's only one fight: all of us, divided amongst ourselves, versus the people with money | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:06] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> the people with money don't want us to see that | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:06] <schestowitz> yes | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:06] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> that's why these other, more arbitrary divides exist | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:06] <schestowitz> media riles that up | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:06] <schestowitz> well, SOME of the media | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:06] <schestowitz> I follow better media than that | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:07] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> put SJD on that page | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:07] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> oh my | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:07] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i like the one about tech journalists | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:15] <schestowitz> it is no longer being updated | Jul 11 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [13:15] <schestowitz> we focus on converting the wiki to gemini | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [13:15] <schestowitz> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/wiki/ | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [13:37] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> so you're really set on the gemini thing then | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [13:37] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i'd recommend maintaining the web site too though | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [13:38] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> technically there's nothing wrong with it | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [13:38] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> it's up to you though | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [13:38] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> it's your site | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [13:38] <schestowitz> both | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [13:38] <schestowitz> the LONG term vision is gemini | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [13:39] <schestowitz> already, for many people, gemini is it | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [13:39] <schestowitz> they use it for docs when they program instead of web browsers | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [13:39] <schestowitz> likewise, when GNU exists, many people can compute in freedom | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [13:39] <schestowitz> the option at least exists | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [14:04] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> yeah it's on my todo | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [14:04] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> xxxxxxxxxxxxx have a static site generator: https://untitled.vimuser.org/ | Jul 11 00:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-untitled.vimuser.org | Untitled – Untitled static site generator | Jul 11 00:10 | |
| schestowitz | [14:05] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> the code isn't great, it's just something i hacked together, but it works well for xxxxxxx purpose. converts markdown to html | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [14:05] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i have it on todo to also make it generate gemini sites | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [14:20] <schestowitz> I have some ffmpef toolsets to process and publish videos | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [14:20] <schestowitz> *ffmpeg | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [14:26] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> are they online? | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [14:26] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i could take a look. might come in handy for me. i sometimes do install tutorials for various things | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [14:32] <schestowitz> they are in git but not public-facing yet | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [14:32] <schestowitz> ffmpeg is the best VIDEO EDITOR | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [14:37] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i actually use kdenlive for video editing | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [14:37] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> which uses ffmpeg ultimately | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [14:37] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i also use obs studio for live streaming and recording | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [14:38] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> however, sometimes these are overkill. a simpler set of tools would be more efficient | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [15:28] <schestowitz> kdenlive needs you firing up a gui | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [15:29] <schestowitz> for most videos you do the same over and over again | Jul 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [15:29] <schestowitz> we also want thumbnails http://techrights.org/videos/ | Jul 11 00:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Techrights Full Videos Index | Jul 11 00:10 | |
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| Techrights-sec | The script making a mirror of the wiki needs tweaking. | Jul 11 15:35 |
| Techrights-sec | It is only indexing some of the articles, even if it does reserve | Jul 11 15:35 |
| Techrights-sec | a directory for them. | Jul 11 15:35 |
| Techrights-sec | It may be Tue or Wed before I can take a closer look. | Jul 11 15:35 |
| Techrights-sec | Scraping is brittle. :( | Jul 11 15:35 |
| schestowitz | thanks,. no urgency or rush needed. That can even take as much as months. This week we change to fibre and I hope for no catastrophe like new router or no ipv4 IP address. Some time soon the hv+tm+tr need ip address changes, as kaniini has said, so maybe we can chains that with server relocation to another colo | Jul 11 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec | Ok. One piece was easy to fix, so that is patched in Git now and should | Jul 11 15:45 |
| Techrights-sec | show up tomorrow. I'll pick away at the others as the opportunity arises. | Jul 11 15:45 |
| schestowitz | great stuff. Will pull. I think I want to just focus on fibre this week and not put too much on my plate :-) been a very eventful week here. | Jul 11 15:46 |
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| Techrights-sec | Will you have the pull det cord at the same time as they pull the fiber? | Jul 11 15:56 |
| schestowitz | i have no idea tbh, but I assume the worst to keep expectations low. worse case scenario, fall back on copper | Jul 11 15:56 |
| schestowitz | *worst | Jul 11 15:56 |
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| Techrights-sec | How should PDFs be handled in Gemini? Should they be archived on the | Jul 11 16:49 |
| Techrights-sec | Gemini server, or just pointed to over at the HTTP server? | Jul 11 16:49 |
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| schestowitz | I never any PDF in even a single capsule. if this a good protocol for such file types? | Jul 11 16:49 |
| Techrights-sec | No it is not a good protocol for PDF, especially if they are largish. | Jul 11 16:50 |
| Techrights-sec | Most of them are large. So I guess it would be best to just point to | Jul 11 16:50 |
| Techrights-sec | the HTTP location. | Jul 11 16:50 |
| schestowitz | quite likely, depending on the system, a browser would not be needed to open these. Same for multimedia files, but in amfora it only has the notion of browser in config file; you cannot specify client type per mime | Jul 11 16:51 |
| Techrights-sec | Too bad that Gemini does not handle large files. I think that is probably | Jul 11 16:52 |
| Techrights-sec | more of an oversight than an intentional design decision. | Jul 11 16:52 |
| schestowitz | before browsers became 'media players' (WMP, youtube, built in DRM and MP4 support) they focused on what they were originally for and it made them safer too | Jul 11 16:53 |
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| Techrights-sec | Yes, they have become basically proprietary application servers for | Jul 11 19:57 |
| Techrights-sec | proprietary repositories, all javascript. :( | Jul 11 19:57 |
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