●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 ●● ● Aug 11 [01:42] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:44] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@mcex8qb6hrzz8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 11 [02:05] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:17] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@t4fw36yh4pqu6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 11 [03:09] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:11] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@t4fw36yh4pqu6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:19] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@z8pckacdu5uwu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [03:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:27] schestowitz https://framapiaf.org/@Prof_PJ/106611958800316961 [03:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-framapiaf.org | Prof_PJ: "@tuxmachines@mastodon.technology For me, change i" - Framapiaf [03:27] schestowitz " For me, change in #Blender UX was devastating. Now, I don't know how to use it properly ' ● Aug 11 [04:00] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:37] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [04:37] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:37] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge ● Aug 11 [05:32] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [05:32] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:32] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [05:37] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [05:37] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:37] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge ● Aug 11 [10:15] schestowitz can you locate the video of Moglen slamming Tim Oreilly at OSCON and transcode it? It must be preserved somehow... it's really something... [10:17] Techrights-sec What year was it and do you recall which venue? [10:17] schestowitz I think around 2006 in oscon [10:19] Techrights-sec "eben moglen oscon oreilley 2006" brings up fly fishing and dundee rallies etc [10:19] schestowitz https://www.theregister.com/2007/07/26/oreilly_moglen_oscon/ [10:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | GPL whiz Moglen nails Web 2.0 O'Reilly on 'frivolous' charges The Register [10:20] Techrights-sec Youtube is not searchable by year, it has a very poor almost useless interface [10:20] Techrights-sec for searching. [10:20] Techrights-sec No metadata [10:23] Techrights-sec ack [10:23] Techrights-sec https://softwarefreedom.org/events/2007/oscon-panel/ [10:23] Techrights-sec no video link [10:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-softwarefreedom.org | Licensing in the Web 2.0 Era - Software Freedom Law Center [10:23] schestowitz that's the hard part! we need it urgently for reasons shown in next post... [10:23] Techrights-sec This might be it? [10:23] Techrights-sec https://archive.org/details/EbenMoglenOnLicensingInTheWeb2.0Era2007 [10:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-archive.org | Eben Moglen on licensing in the Web 2.0 Era (2007) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive [10:24] Techrights-sec https://archive.org/download/EbenMoglenOnLicensingInTheWeb2.0Era2007/EbenMoglen-Licensin [10:24] Techrights-sec gInTheWeb2.0Era2007.ogv [10:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://ia801601.us.archive.org/33/items/EbenMoglenOnLicensingInTheWeb2.0Era2007/EbenMoglen-Licensin ) [10:25] schestowitz there was like a 5-minute segment when he lashes out at Tim; that's what we need [10:28] Techrights-sec the video is about 29 minutes [10:28] Techrights-sec About 4 minutes in he corects Tim about strategy and concepts etc [10:29] schestowitz maybe that was a portion of a debate. vance in el reg covered the passages of relevance [10:37] Techrights-sec see /tmp/EbenMoglen-LicensingInTheWeb2.0Era2007.ogv for the full file, [10:37] Techrights-sec the segment is probably 4:07 to 8:23 [10:37] Techrights-sec I can get to it later but not at the moment [10:37] Techrights-sec IA downloads are intentionally slow and then transcoding takes time ● Aug 11 [11:08] schestowitz x https://venturebeat.com/2021/08/09/microsoft-contributes-to-usc-games-lawson-fund-for-black-and-indigenous-students/ [11:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-venturebeat.com | Microsoft contributes to USC Games' Lawson fund for Black and indigenous students | VentureBeat [11:36] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@2uafxmbja26pw.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 11 [12:44] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 11 [13:10] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@7zhwdwu3fntke.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:45] Techrights-sec is the video all set or is there still need for editing? [13:46] schestowitz at the end I published the entire thing and gave a pointers because: 1) context matters 2) he says other things about web 2.0 hooey that I agree with 3) we need to make this harder to wipe from history (Moglen barely talks about these issues anymore) [13:52] Techrights-sec The blurb pointing to the Moglen video ought to point to IA as the original [13:52] Techrights-sec source, too. [13:52] Techrights-sec https://archive.org/details/EbenMoglenOnLicensingInTheWeb2.0Era2007 [13:52] Techrights-sec I wonder what kind of pressure has been put on Moglen to make him so quiet [13:52] Techrights-sec of late. Or is he merely retired and enforcing his own retirement? [13:53] schestowitz I assumed mental fatigue over the perception of a lost or dying cause, which he had little left in him to fight back against. RMS is quiet this summer. 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