●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, November 11, 2022 ●● ● Nov 11 [00:16] *starstreak is munching on jalepeno dry roasted crickets ● Nov 11 [01:04] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:13] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 11 [04:03] Techrightssec I hope SN pulls through. It is about the last site left where comments are [04:03] Techrightssec possible. ncommander seems willing to try to either right it or archive it [04:03] Techrightssec by the 10th anniversary. [04:06] schestowitz-TR they will last longer than twitter, based on news reports [04:07] Techrightssec The sooner Twitter is removed, the better. [04:07] Techrightssec Corporate disinformation and propaganda engines like Reddit are another matter [04:07] Techrightssec That one is a lot cheaper to operate, or so it looks. [04:09] schestowitz-TR regarding corona, I still 'monitor' what happens here [04:09] schestowitz-TR we thought about spendign this weekend trekking, but weather is not cooperative [04:09] schestowitz-TR contact with other people can lead to infection [04:13] schestowitz-TR it is 4am here and 15 degrees [04:13] schestowitz-TR i still have many unknowns, so cannot change some workflows indefinitely [04:13] schestowitz-TR yesterday I did FOUR rounds of Daily Links [04:13] schestowitz-TR atm there is some time overhead associated with adjusting [04:13] schestowitz-TR when that clears, I should have lots of more time [04:15] schestowitz-TR i am reluctant to even link to LINUXHINT anymore [04:15] schestowitz-TR seeing some of the trash they're filling the site with [04:18] schestowitz-TR today: windows, discord, git ASSUMING YOU USE WINDOWS (!), JS ... maybe time to delete my feed soon [04:18] schestowitz-TR I also suspect they're adopted plagiarism artists [04:18] schestowitz-TR who hide that but use quotes to sort of pretend, we're quoting [04:18] schestowitz-TR maybe the site got sold to pakistan [04:18] Techrightssec There are self-styled OSS specialists promoting their activity via "Slack" [04:18] Techrightssec -- not Slackware, but the proprietary IRC competitor [04:19] schestowitz-TR I know a company that does that ^_^ [04:23] schestowitz-TR reading feeds [04:23] schestowitz-TR a) more an MOAR webspam [04:23] schestowitz-TR b) we can cope [04:23] schestowitz-TR 3) Daily Links has enough, but granularity changed [04:23] schestowitz-TR d) need to get more people OFF the Web [04:23] schestowitz-TR mumble, irc, gemini etc. [04:23] Techrightssec :/ [04:23] Techrightssec I think the work flow for the links can be moved to tr-new soon. There [04:23] Techrightssec are some details to work out with Git, but now that the TR Git repository [04:23] Techrightssec is now in place, that is a step closer to realization. [04:27] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:27] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:29] Techrightssec The web in and of itself is fine, that is until HTTP/3 kicks in. [04:29] Techrightssec Then it's as good a dead in regards to any characteristics it might have shared [04:29] Techrightssec with its original goals and vision. However, the web as a vehicle for [04:29] Techrightssec delivering proprietary javascript browser-based "apps" is better off dead. [04:29] schestowitz-TR i have a 'stupid' question [04:29] schestowitz-TR given what happened to FB and still happened to Twitter [04:30] schestowitz-TR and given how awful youtube has become in pursuit of % [04:30] schestowitz-TR and given that this strategy still reportedly resulted ina DECLINE ($) [04:30] schestowitz-TR is youtube next to jump the shark? [04:30] schestowitz-TR no youtube -> no invidious [04:30] Techrightssec Youtube has already jumped the shark but as to whether it declines financially [04:30] Techrightssec enough to see major cuts is another matter. [04:30] Techrightssec https://grammarist.com/idiom/jump-the-shark/ [04:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-grammarist.com | Jump the shark Idiom Definition [04:31] Techrightssec I'm loath to say it but invidious was a stupid idea anyway, it's only a front [04:31] Techrightssec end [04:32] schestowitz-TR it helps against ads mostly [04:32] schestowitz-TR but also has other advantages [04:32] schestowitz-TR the hard part is hosting large files and then delivering them to millions [04:32] schestowitz-TR i reckon the business model there is the censorship [04:32] schestowitz-TR or rather, mind control [04:33] Techrightssec https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JumpingTheShark [04:33] Techrightssec The ads, as originally done, were simply the cost of using a "free" service. [04:33] Techrightssec Now they are invasive, obnoxious, and longer than the actual video content. [04:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tvtropes.org | Jumping the Shark - TV Tropes [04:34] schestowitz-TR yes, youtube became that [04:34] schestowitz-TR they need to show potential to profit, too [04:34] schestowitz-TR Bailout Biden might not find more coins between the sofa cushion [04:34] schestowitz-TR for the so-called psy-ops [04:35] Techrightssec I'm not sure if FOSS conferences have abandoned youtube or if they have [04:35] Techrightssec abandoned posting videos. I'm hoping for a third option: self-hosting like [04:35] Techrightssec CCC has done. But there will be no CCC this year either. [04:35] Techrightssec Yes, youtube is certainly manipulative. [04:36] schestowitz-TR if you want to secure access to some video, then download it [04:36] schestowitz-TR VHS VCRs with record button were not a crimew [04:38] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:45] schestowitz-TR motta: survival of the fittest (darwin iirc) [04:45] schestowitz-TR intel/grove: survival of the paranoid [04:45] schestowitz-TR tech: survival of the agile [04:45] schestowitz-TR youtube and twitter are too heavy and far too messy to operate [04:45] schestowitz-TR not sure about soylent news, but it seems like they over-engineered it [04:45] schestowitz-TR staying on olkd wordpress LTS was wise [04:45] schestowitz-TR but it's time to move [04:45] schestowitz-TR youtube may never become financially sustainable [04:45] schestowitz-TR and to keep "agile" it might looks for excuses to ban "useless" channels [04:45] schestowitz-TR like those that promote FS [04:45] schestowitz-TR and have many minutes of video (storage) [04:45] schestowitz-TR plus bandwidth costs that are hard to "monetise" due to 'uncooperate' (to ads) audience [04:45] schestowitz-TR and no political gain (brownie points) either3~ [04:56] Techrightssec SN is using the old /. infrastructure which was ambitious and aimed for [04:56] Techrightssec a larger scale than what is needed anymore. Harware and networks handle [04:56] Techrightssec much more work and there are fewer visitors anyway. So what they have [04:56] Techrightssec is kind of overkill. [04:57] schestowitz-TR i thought it was a lookalike, not same or similar code [04:57] schestowitz-TR anyway, wordpress is becoming overkill for 99% of sites that use wordpress ● Nov 11 [05:05] Techrightssec /. was one of the largest sites 20 years ago [05:05] Techrightssec in terms of visitors, posts, and traffic. Most importantly, and the reason [05:05] Techrightssec it drew the ire of the powers that be, was that it reflected the zeitgeist [05:05] Techrightssec of the era and focused on FOSS and Open Standards and hated with a burning [05:05] Techrightssec passion all things M$ [05:05] Techrightssec Team99 was active there but was, for a while mitigated, that's where the [05:05] Techrightssec abbreviation "M$" came from AFAIK. M$ had a search engine continually scraping [05:05] Techrightssec forums and /. in particular for the string "microsoft" case-insensitive. [05:05] Techrightssec In the seconds after a thread acquired the string "microsoft", it would [05:05] Techrightssec be burried in hostile and off-topic comments usually about perversions and [05:05] Techrightssec unnacceptable practices. [05:05] Techrightssec https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-building-a-team-99/ [05:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.neowin.net | Microsoft Building a 'Team 99' - Neowin [05:08] schestowitz-TR i have just started one cpu-intensive task again, on my main machine [05:08] schestowitz-TR seeing it has not had stroage issues for a while [05:08] schestowitz-TR undecided on next course of action, but for now it seems 'back to normal' [05:08] schestowitz-TR cleaned my rss feeds just now [05:08] schestowitz-TR did not net many important stories [05:09] schestowitz-TR to put it mildly [05:09] schestowitz-TR but some clusters of links [05:11] Techrightssec ack [05:22] *rianne_ has quit (*.net *.split) [05:22] *schestowitz[TR] has quit (*.net *.split) [05:22] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [05:25] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-r9p.jp8.7132oi.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [05:26] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #boycottnovell [05:28] *schestowitz[TR] (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [05:37] schestowitz-TR going a post about our 16th bday... [05:37] schestowitz-TR draft [05:37] Techrightssec ack [05:41] schestowitz-TR re SN [05:41] schestowitz-TR I saw they use patreon [05:41] schestowitz-TR iirc, it was patereon that fired ALL sec staf [05:41] schestowitz-TR and is likely laying off all across the board [05:41] schestowitz-TR I wonder if, [05:41] schestowitz-TR like in social control media [05:41] schestowitz-TR herding all supporters in that one platform [05:41] schestowitz-TR makes one too financially dependent [05:41] schestowitz-TR like with a salary [05:41] schestowitz-TR on the existence and health of that platform [05:41] schestowitz-TR did they plan for a siatuino of ban or platform shutdown (patreon)? [05:41] schestowitz-TR not yet thinking of 'crowdfunding' TR [05:42] schestowitz-TR as we are not broke [05:42] schestowitz-TR but it's always "in the cards" [05:42] schestowitz-TR from what I saw, if people start funding, then they throw a fit when some [05:42] schestowitz-TR article isn't making them happy [05:42] schestowitz-TR and then use a threat of discontinuing to induce (self)censorship [05:42] Techrightssec then a disclaimer needs to be visible up front [05:43] schestowitz-TR right, good point [05:43] schestowitz-TR anyway, health is ok, financially we're ok [05:43] schestowitz-TR TR will be fine [05:43] schestowitz-TR and this is what I've wanted to do since 2006 anyway [05:43] Techrightssec [05:43] Techrightssec "as-is" ● Nov 11 [06:43] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@qqashmmai9reg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [06:50] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:50] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:57] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [06:57] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@qqashmmai9reg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 11 [07:41] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [07:41] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Nov 11 [08:09] Techrightssec The various news sites seem to be largely blaming the Mediabank breach [08:09] Techrightssec on either a) not paying the ransom, or b) the ransomware gang itself, [08:09] Techrightssec instead of where the blame really lies: M$ and those that brought M$ product [08:09] Techrightssec into the working environment. [08:09] Techrightssec ^ topic ? [08:10] schestowitz-TR thsnks, got 3 topic now [08:10] schestowitz-TR we might go to town later today/tonight [08:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [08:27] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 11 [09:00] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:17] schestowitz-TR gym [09:17] schestowitz-TR 2 daily links batches at 9am ;-) [09:17] schestowitz-TR i like it [09:17] Techrightssec ack ● Nov 11 [11:11] Techrightssec 2022-11-11 11:11 [11:34] Techrightssec There are some echo settings she might be able to do on her end. [11:34] Techrightssec Configure -> Settingd -> Audio Input -> Interface -> Echo Cancellation [11:34] Techrightssec afaik it is off by default and there are two other options which could be tested [11:34] schestowitz-TR we even did the silence thing [11:34] schestowitz-TR i think we now have (had) 6 people in mumble [11:35] schestowitz-TR should have done that years ago [11:35] schestowitz-TR the echo is bad because rianne does not use a headset [11:35] schestowitz-TR thanks, having another go at it now [11:35] schestowitz-TR did mine last night again [11:48] schestowitz-TR the echo is always worse from some users who are on mumla on android [11:48] schestowitz-TR but not all [11:48] schestowitz-TR and I am not sure what the culprit is [11:48] schestowitz-TR maybe some of them use speaker mode ● Nov 11 [12:06] Techrightssec no idea about android [12:08] schestowitz-TR if social control media take a tumble [12:08] schestowitz-TR than the addition associate with it via "phones" [12:08] schestowitz-TR *addiciton [12:09] schestowitz-TR may diminish [12:09] Techrightssec ack [12:09] schestowitz-TR and maybe there can be a rebound for real computing [12:09] schestowitz-TR not those palm-size skinner UIs [12:10] schestowitz-TR the "like" interaction was made for pal-sized and keyboardless things [12:10] schestowitz-TR so the devices impacted the UIs [12:10] schestowitz-TR not the other way around [12:10] schestowitz-TR to the point many programs became worse [12:10] schestowitz-TR including banking UIs [12:10] schestowitz-TR equipping the users with worse devices for improved screen time (always in the pocket, making many noises) [12:10] schestowitz-TR rather than increased productivity [12:10] Techrightssec s/improved/increased/ [12:11] schestowitz-TR (from advertisers' POV or state propAGANDA, A subset of the PR industry) [12:38] schestowitz-TR mumble us hard when trying to balance the volumes between several people with different software, [12:38] schestowitz-TR different devices, and different modes, all in the same room [12:38] schestowitz-TR one person's bad settings impacts everyone present, unless one goes deaf/mute [12:38] schestowitz-TR but this is an inherent issue for that kind of application [12:38] schestowitz-TR with proprietary craps in "Apps" and "Browser" there is only one "approved" client [12:38] schestowitz-TR with very limited OS or browser support [12:39] schestowitz-TR going to record in a bit [12:39] schestowitz-TR we have put our most of the xmas decor by now [12:39] schestowitz-TR inc. at the office, entrance, bedrooms [12:39] schestowitz-TR rianne is crazy about that stuff, even it's mostly for kids ● Nov 11 [13:31] schestowitz-TR OTA [13:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [13:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 11 [14:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 11 [15:34] schestowitz-TR draft [15:34] schestowitz-TR epo quiet, so I recorded just 3 videos [15:34] schestowitz-TR draft for ms+russia [15:38] Techrightssec checking [15:38] Techrightssec checking [15:38] Techrightssec empty [15:38] Techrightssec s/face-checking/fact-checking/ [15:38] Techrightssec "attribution" is intentionally difficult in such situations [15:43] schestowitz https://wikileaks.org/vault7/ https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/ [15:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 502 @ https://wikileaks.org/vault7/ ) [15:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 502 @ https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/ ) [15:43] schestowitz go to "Mable Framework" [15:44] schestowitz-TR *Marble [15:46] Techrightssec ack [15:48] schestowitz-TR done [15:56] schestowitz-TR I did not do any preparation for the video [15:56] schestowitz-TR but I think it got covered in it [15:56] schestowitz-TR my arguments can improve a bit over time [15:57] schestowitz-TR the idea is to get people to argue similarly and push back against BS 'articles' ● Nov 11 [16:27] schestowitz-TR is it ok for TR to have a consistent policy of, [16:27] schestowitz-TR let's quit all social control media? or do you veto? [16:28] Techrightssec I'm not sure I have a veto but either way I would agree with the push to [16:28] Techrightssec quit all social control media. ● Nov 11 [17:14] schestowitz-TR soon 72 hours since last PC crash [17:14] schestowitz-TR now got 6-7 people 'enrolled' into mumble [17:15] schestowitz-TR quite a few client downloads ● Nov 11 [18:03] Techrightssec ack [18:03] schestowitz-TR "Why LBRY was never going to win, and how they have just screwed all crypto." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-9030 [18:19] Techrightssec ck [18:19] Techrightssec ack [18:19] Techrightssec That's a feed not a web page. [18:19] schestowitz-TR yes, their web page does not yet have that listed [18:19] schestowitz-TR only the feed [18:22] schestowitz "Other hospitals also are experiencing high levels of RSV cases, but the pediatric intensive care unit occupancy rate in Michigan has dipped. Statewide data indicates an 86% pediatric ICU occupancy as of Thursday, down from 89% last Friday." [18:22] schestowitz COVID mentioned also [18:23] schestowitz for-profit hospitals and insurance companies [18:23] Techrightssec https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/08/eat-me/ [18:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-EAT ME - scheerpost.com [18:41] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@wbbz7p3sasfe2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 11 [19:01] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 11 [20:15] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [20:15] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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