●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Monday, April 12, 2021 ●● ● Apr 12 [00:25] schestowitz >> All in all, the tactics and tone used define who will support you and [00:25] schestowitz >> who you will alienate. Recently some people complained about unwanted [00:25] schestowitz >> emails and "doxing". [00:25] schestowitz > It is difficult to strike the right balance [00:25] schestowitz > [00:25] schestowitz > The bare minimum is presented to give victims some hope of legal [00:25] schestowitz > recourse, such as the address of the Debian Project Secretary. If he [00:25] schestowitz > resigns and somebody else replaces him then the site would be updated. [00:25] schestowitz > If Debian is properly incorporated and has an address for legal service, [00:26] schestowitz > that would be published there. [00:26] schestowitz > [00:26] schestowitz > But right now, it is a simple fact that Debian is not incorporated and [00:26] schestowitz > there are situations where people may have a legal claim, for example, [00:26] schestowitz > defamation that crosses the threshold of stalking or expenses not being [00:26] schestowitz > paid for over a year because "we're just volunteers" [00:26] schestowitz > [00:26] schestowitz > The doxing tactics were initiated by Chris Lamb and Matthias Kirschner [00:26] schestowitz > in mid-2018. People did nasty LWN articles and sent emails to other [00:26] schestowitz > journalists begging for more articles. Most journalists are now turning [00:26] schestowitz > them down. They even hacked their own NM database, see attached. [00:26] schestowitz > Mattia tweaked the UI, that is in Git, but Zini changed the text in the [00:26] schestowitz > database manually to try and evade questions about it. Moreover, you [00:26] schestowitz > can see that they created this state of hostility without any action [00:26] schestowitz > from me, the date on this commit is 2018-11-28: [00:26] schestowitz > [00:26] schestowitz > https://salsa.debian.org/nm-team/nm.debian.org/-/commit/4c5d4a631ef5f4a81be3eaaf4f953815b01694ed [00:26] schestowitz > [00:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-salsa.debian.org | dsa: also print the accountComment while warning of inconsistencies (4c5d4a63) Commits Debian New Member Process / nm.debian.org GitLab [00:26] schestowitz > As it is only for one person, it is clearly bullying and harassment. [00:26] schestowitz > [00:26] schestowitz > debian.community was not registered until 2019-10-23, almost a year later. [00:26] schestowitz > [00:26] schestowitz > If they will use the Debian web site, LWN and Google to attack a [00:26] schestowitz > volunteer like that at a time of grief, the loss of two family members, [00:26] schestowitz > then it is only reasonable to blow away the shadows they are hiding in. [00:26] schestowitz > Nobody in my situation could accept this or live with this. [00:26] schestowitz > [00:26] schestowitz > At least once a week somebody is asking me about this nonsense, for 2.5 [00:26] schestowitz > years now and in a very painful time for my family. [00:26] schestowitz > [00:26] schestowitz > If you or anybody else has better ideas then I am happy to listen to [00:26] schestowitz > them. The most recent blog has been adapted somewhat to indicate that [00:26] schestowitz > the information is not there forever. The blog emphasizes that it is to [00:26] schestowitz > be used lawfully. Having seen the way they started blackmailing Dr [00:26] schestowitz > Preining and I in private, I can imagine there might be other victims [00:26] schestowitz > out there who we don't even know about. If one of those people is [00:26] schestowitz > living in a cloud of shame and self-doubt from these mind games, I hope [00:26] schestowitz > blogs like this help them seek justice. [00:26] schestowitz > [00:26] schestowitz > Regards, [00:29] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20494316#bf198b607c7101395ded08002785b8a8 [00:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Over the years, blockchain technologies have evolved along two major lines. One continues to focus on blockchain as the underlying platform for bitcoin, as well as a wide variety of cryptoassets, such as digital tokens and cryptocurrencies." https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/04/the-intriguing-nature-of-non-fungible-tokens-nfts.html [00:29] schestowitz "And the other?" [00:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Intriguing Nature of Non-Fungible Tokens [00:29] schestowitz All are man-made concepts... [00:29] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20494025#831c5a81-4111-474f-8c45-b447c2431683 [00:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RMS attackers under the microscope http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083?page=1#comment-29117 [00:30] schestowitz "it would be much more convenient if you post here entire articles instead of/in addition to links to it." [00:30] schestowitz Think of that as recorded timeline of events/responses, which matter to those who analyse the smear campaign [00:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux Machines [00:30] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20494028#39272b907c6801390f34480aa90439f0 [00:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #surveillance as a 'feature'? https://www.maketecheasier.com/show-speed-limit-google-maps/ [00:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.maketecheasier.com | How to Show the Speed Limit on Google Maps - Make Tech Easier [00:30] schestowitz " [00:30] schestowitz they disguise it as an optional feature [00:30] schestowitz but the people that turn it off are still tracked [00:30] schestowitz and thats why its there [00:31] schestowitz " [00:39] schestowitz Gemini @ [00:39] schestowitz Techrights [00:39] schestowitz _________________________________________________________ [00:39] schestowitz 4310-2021-04-0 [00:39] schestowitz 1041-2021-04-0 [00:39] schestowitz 1053-2021-04-0 [00:39] schestowitz 1237-2021-04-0 [00:39] schestowitz 6358-2021-04-0 [00:39] schestowitz 1063-2021-04-0 [00:39] schestowitz 1237-2021-04-0 [00:39] schestowitz 1213-2021-04-0 [00:39] schestowitz 1249-2021-04-0 [00:39] schestowitz 1177-2021-04-1 [00:39] schestowitz 8505-2021-04-1 [00:39] schestowitz 240-2021-04-1 [00:39] schestowitz 28683 ● Apr 12 [01:36] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [01:36] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:41] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [01:43] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 12 [04:59] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [04:59] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) ● Apr 12 [05:05] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [05:06] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 12 [07:50] schestowitz [05:49] Have you seen RMS-themed Linux.org.ru user avatars? [07:50] schestowitz [05:54] This one is of Harald https://www.linux.org.ru/people/Harald/profile : https://www.linux.org.ru/photos/45855:266442646.png [07:50] schestowitz [05:57] And this one is by fornlr, a brony who despises both sides and considers SJWs a natural derivation of free software fanatics: https://www.linux.org.ru/photos/108412:-907318576.jpg [07:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linux.org.ru | Harald [07:50] schestowitz [05:58] (so he is kind of neutral, the pony represents an SJW, not him) [07:50] schestowitz [06:01] This one is by WitcherGeralt, who usually has the Witcher or someone like him https://www.linux.org.ru/photos/75820:211047465.jpg [07:50] schestowitz [06:03] There are more: https://www.linux.org.ru/photos/161846:-1807197086.jpg https://www.linux.org.ru/photos/70105:-181904959.jpg (I guess) https://www.linux.org.ru/photos/176159:-725047766.jpg [07:50] schestowitz [07:49] haha, nice ones... [07:53] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:53] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [07:57] schestowitz Just to be over-verbose, https://stallmansupport.org/renata-avila-trying-to-understand-the-lynching-of-stallman.html was added to yesterday's links some time after the upload of yesterday... this is the only difference that I can see [07:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stallmansupport.org | In Support of Richard Stallman - Renata Avila: Trying to Understand the Lynching of Stallman [07:58] Techrights-sec 2.69 [07:58] Techrights-sec 3.97 [07:58] Techrights-sec 10.28 [07:58] Techrights-sec 10.81 [07:58] Techrights-sec 16.83 [07:58] Techrights-sec 27.23 [07:58] Techrights-sec Stopping mysqld: [ OK ] [07:58] Techrights-sec Starting mysqld: [ OK ] [07:58] Techrights-sec restarted DB [07:58] schestowitz As for mysql, my guess is that more cleverly crafted page requests cause very long queries to run, hammering on the DB. No way around this except blocking culprits or rate limiting. ● Apr 12 [08:04] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [08:06] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [08:23] Techrights-sec If there is a way that the problem URLs could be identified in an automated [08:23] Techrights-sec manner then the offending source hoses could be added to nftables [08:23] schestowitz variations can then be attempted, so I think the eagerness of the attacker is the main issue here, or the patience. I see no issue with the DB itself. [08:24] Techrights-sec my monitors show no outages lately however they could be more finely tuned. [08:24] Techrights-sec I did see this in the SSH session recently though: ● Apr 12 [10:51] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1618215797005#c1555282739461846845 [10:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKat [10:51] schestowitz " [10:52] schestowitz With respect to the suspicion of partiality, it might be interesting to have a look at the following procedural decision in a petition case taken inter alia by the President of the Boards of Appeal: [10:52] schestowitz https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=E529TANX0283DSU&number=EP99900207&lng=en&npl=false [10:52] schestowitz " [10:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-register.epo.org | European Patent Register [10:52] schestowitz https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/04/boeings-comma-drama-commas-and-taking.html?showComment=1618216964967 [10:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Boeing's comma drama: Commas and taking the description into account when construing a claim (T 1127/16) - The IPKat [10:52] schestowitz " [10:52] schestowitz Monday, 12 April 2021 at 09:42:00 BST [10:52] schestowitz This seems at odds with Art. 69 EPC. Is the board now saying we can't interpret claims using the description?! [10:53] schestowitz Reply [10:53] schestowitz Attentive ObserverMonday, 12 April 2021 at 10:06:00 BST [10:53] schestowitz The decision is to be applauded as it reminds of some fundamentals in matters of correspondence between the claims and the description. [10:53] schestowitz If in a claim it is question of a ventilator, it is irrelevant that the applicant/proprietor defines its ventilator as having a heating spiral in front in the description. A simple ventilator will be novelty destroying. [10:53] schestowitz In T 1067/09 the presence of a comma led to an objection under Art 123(2) when it was omitted in the context of an amendment. [10:53] schestowitz The description stated: "the sealing elements may be substantially planar, rectangular elements, substantially spherical, for example beads, or irregularly shaped. After amendment the claim read "selecting sealing elements to be substantially planar", or "selecting substantially planar sealing elements ". [10:53] schestowitz For the BA there were two types of sealing elements, planar and 3D. For the BA, The skilled person would therefore consider the expression "substantially planar, rectangular elements" meaning that the planar sealing elements could only be rectangular. [10:53] schestowitz There is a long line of case law according to which when a claim is clear as such, there is no need to take into account the description, be it for added matter, e.g. T 30/17, extension of protection, e.g. T 1778/17 or clarity, e.g. T 515/19 or T 21/16. [10:53] schestowitz The position of Mr Justice Birss in [2021] EWHC 57 (Pat)) is clearly at odds with the EPO case law. One cannot give a claim a different meaning depending of what is stated in the description. The claim has to be taken as it is written. [10:53] schestowitz When I remember the long discussions opposing the reminder in the latest Guidelines about the mandatory adaptation of the description, I cannot but agree with the reminder. It is clearly to avoid such interpretations like that of Mr Justice Birss. [10:53] schestowitz " [10:59] schestowitz I wonder what will happen if mysqld is restarted at times backup is taken. I am guessing the dump will just be aborted and no harm done.. ● Apr 12 [11:05] schestowitz x https://www.somagnews.com/open-source-what-it-is-and-how-it-works/ [11:05] schestowitz # at least there is a nod to RMS though [11:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.somagnews.com | Open Source: what it is and how it works - Somag News [11:05] schestowitz = [11:05] schestowitz x https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20501097 [11:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: He could have made #mozilla better technically... instead of becoming a political org that attacks #freesw (FSF) on Google's payroll (3+ million dollars a year, Google money for the most part, goes to a corporate lawyers who turns Mozilla into a handkerchief) https://www.i-programmer.info/news/82-heritage/14456-brendan-eich-talks-about-javascript-a-more.html [11:05] schestowitz # not his fault [11:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.i-programmer.info | Brendan Eich Talks About JavaScript & More [11:07] Techrights-sec https://nitter.cc/vaxima/status/1381543916474933251#m [11:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Ingmar S. Horn (@vaxima): "#microsoft -funded propaganda site: Google is continuing to chip away at Microsofts productivity dominance Even the Microsoft boosters admit Microsoft is in trouble see http://techrights.org/2021/04/07/collapse-of-windows/" | nitter [11:12] Techrights-sec Probably, but it could be tested. [11:13] schestowitz I just hope that until all that vandalism is over the DB will still be in good integrity. Last night they targeted TR again, second night in a row, so we know it's likely a personal thing [11:15] Techrights-sec Well going after TM too would be in M$ style. [11:15] schestowitz [00:47] The submission/s form in #lxer and in #linuxtoday had broken down, with the latter being repaired only about a week ago. #tuxmachines had a spam submission/s issue, so now only authorised accounts can submit. :/ http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36735/ [11:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: Inability to add posts containing URL to a specific site: LXer Meta Forum [11:20] Techrights-sec Just tested it on TM, the dump will fail if interrupted. [11:20] Techrights-sec mysqldump: Error 2013: Lost connection to MySQL server during query when dumping table `node_revisions` at row: 63027 [11:20] Techrights-sec So it would be better to block the offending host rather than interrupt the db [11:40] Techrights-sec I'm rather sure it has been quite a few years since we've linked to ZDNet [11:48] Techrights-sec back in a few hours [11:59] *schestowitz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:59] -NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) [11:59] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [11:59] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz ● Apr 12 [16:27] schestowitz the site endured our gym trip very well! Being back at the gym today was, in a word, a bit eerily worrying because we were the only ones there the entire time, just 6 people in total so far today. Had lots of interesting chats with the staff though. [16:30] Techrights-sec good that you're getting more exercise, but be careful about exposure to viruses [16:30] schestowitz next week we'll decide whether to renew, also based on perceived safety. Distancing is hardly a problem. [16:49] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1618236457816#c8146453397125281237 [16:49] schestowitz " [16:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKat [16:49] schestowitz It looks like the first set of non-anonymous amicus submissions is on the public file. They were filed by VESPA (the Swiss professional body). Largely endorsing the view taken by the board in T1807/15, and criticizing other recent decisions that decided differently (e.g. T2320/16). Also mentioned 'Zoom fatigue' - I don't know if that strengthens or weakens the submissions overall. [16:49] schestowitz https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=E53S1W305855DSU&number=EP04758381&lng=en&npl=false [16:49] schestowitz "\ [16:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-register.epo.org | European Patent Register [16:50] Techrights-sec about making the site more robust, having nftables or even outdated old iptables [16:50] Techrights-sec would help a lot... [16:58] Techrights-sec https://nitter.cc/JonDoyleDesign/status/1381579994703540225#m [16:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Jon Doyle @Lostincult (@JonDoyleDesign): "techrights.org/2019/08/04/ri" | nitter [16:59] Techrights-sec https://nitter.cc/Chilreando/status/1381582800671870978#m [16:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | chilreando (@Chilreando): "Before becoming an absent-minded Vice-President of Antnio Campinos Christoph Ernst was posing as the very opposite of what he would become (see Anti-Kurruption above) http://techrights.org/2021/04/11/bundestagate-part-13/" | nitter ● Apr 12 [19:09] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [19:14] *MinceR (mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 12 [21:03] Techrights-sec https://nitter.cc/BrideOfLinux/status/1381698754789715973#m [21:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Christine Hall (@BrideOfLinux): "I'm not going to preach: Elephant and Its Ivory | Tux Machines https://buff.ly/2OBGXPR" | nitter [21:49] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1618242120242#c1464248614441892225 [21:49] schestowitz " [21:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKat [21:49] schestowitz The documents for R 5/18 indeed make interesting reading. [21:49] schestowitz https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP99900207&lng=en&tab=doclist [21:49] schestowitz As I understand it, the Chairman of the EBA for R 5/18 is the same as the Chairman for G 1/21. The OPs for R 5/18 were originally due to take place in person but, presumably by order of the Chairman, were changed to VICOs on 31 March 2021, which was AFTER the EBA received the referral in G 1/21. Further, the EBA denied a request of the Petitioner to change the format back to in-person proceedings. Finally, to rub salt into the wound [21:49] schestowitz the OPs in R 5/18 will take place before the EBA's decision in G 1/21 is issued. [21:49] schestowitz So, to summarise, the EBA will conduct oral proceedings in a petition for review by using a format whose lawfulness (absent the consent of the parties) is currently in doubt. Further, the EBA's final decision in connection with that petition for review will be announced before the EBA, with THE SAME CHAIRMAN, has separately decided whether "without consent" VICO OPs are permitted under the EPC. [21:49] schestowitz In other words, Mr Josefsson will announce a final and unappealable decision in connection with R 5/18 before going on to Chair the EBA for G 1/21 ... whose answer to the question referred could, in theory, undermine the validity of his decision in R 5/18. [21:49] schestowitz Are we really expected to believe that, under these circumstances, Mr Josefsson is capable of keeping an open mind in connection with the question referred in G 1/21? Despite this, Mr Josefsson is showing no signs of self-recusing. It therefore seems that we can expect that not only will he participate in G 1/21 he will remain as the CHAIRMAN of the EBA. Unbelievable. [21:49] schestowitz " [21:50] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/04/boeings-comma-drama-commas-and-taking.html?showComment=1618254888597#c1318498087757785238 [21:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Boeing's comma drama: Commas and taking the description into account when construing a claim (T 1127/16) - The IPKat [21:50] schestowitz " [21:50] schestowitz A detailed review of the case law suggests to me a reasonably prevalent line of thought at the EPO Boards that the description (and Article 69 EPC) should not be used to "rescue" a claim which has a reasonable interpretation which is broader than advocated by the patentee, i.e. should not allow the patentee to benefit from a narrower definition provided in the description. If issues of claim breadth are detrimental to the validity [21:50] schestowitz of the patent, the proper solution in most cases would be to amend the claim to include the narrower definition... provided that the right support under Art 123 can be found, of course. [21:50] schestowitz Having said that, this approach hasn't always been consistently adopted by the Boards. If one searches for cases citing Article 69 EPC it also seems that some Boards have historically struggled to understand that the rationale underlying Article 69 is not merely limited to issues of infringement. As soon as article 69 is mentioned, the blinkers come down and they say, effectively, "scope of protection is a matter for infringement, [21:50] schestowitz which is not our job to determine," overlooking that claim scope, and the meaning of terms within the claims, can also of course be highly relevant for determining whether or not a particular claim feature is or is not disclosed in the prior art. [21:50] schestowitz Is this a topic which is ripe for another EBoA referral? [21:50] schestowitz "