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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9xyB1Nozq7SKTB8oQSAug 12 01:12
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schestowitz" their idea of "free" hides always a costs..."Aug 12 01:12
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9xyMAalu9xfqjgHxs8Aug 12 01:12
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schestowitz"but did they fix the hang at suspend?"Aug 12 01:12
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9xye1xP6RVDrUsehoOAug 12 01:12
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schestowitz"Why is this all being covered up and not reported in the press?"Aug 12 01:12
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9xygybKMMjx21PWoaGAug 12 01:12
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schestowitz" :) Great news."Aug 12 01:12
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9xyj3Plmxp27X5mU4WAug 12 01:13
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schestowitz" Dummies. That's like smuggling money with a credit card."Aug 12 01:13
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9xzS32t4XJskV8NzNIAug 12 01:13
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schestowitz"what"Aug 12 01:13
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9xzYfBPBukRleGygjIAug 12 01:13
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schestowitz"This is so BS! A member that use to manage a minecraft server put one to share a friendly game with the community. Nobody was promoting MS, nobody was being forced, even nobody was being asked to install any software on their machines"Aug 12 01:13
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9xzgn3Bt8g4E7b1BC4Aug 12 01:14
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schestowitz"I guess the Microsoft binary blobs in UEFI are not GPL either uh?"Aug 12 01:14
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9y0WWmBJo326LrJR8CAug 12 01:14
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schestowitz" hrct continues to be out of control, unaccountable pro-caliphate star chamber"Aug 12 01:14
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9y0YJevleYbA0VuasiAug 12 01:15
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schestowitz" Err... what's the problem with this page?"Aug 12 01:15
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9y0bEyGKePFmNUzF4qAug 12 01:15
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schestowitz"ewww CEO"Aug 12 01:15
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9y0dg5Er1Ny1k1Lr16Aug 12 01:15
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schestowitz"So technically they ported bedrock edition to linux"Aug 12 01:15
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9y0dimpptxmHX4wFLUAug 12 01:16
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schestowitz"maybe those ( <3 Linux) people will actually release the game on linux or is that wishful thinking"Aug 12 01:16
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9y0dk0KxBgEThJ4elEAug 12 01:16
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schestowitz"(game as in bedrock and not PE )"Aug 12 01:16
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9y18mcdupqozevfhuyAug 12 01:16
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9y18mcdupqozevfhuyAug 12 01:16
schestowitzWhat if Twitter's algorithm has begun to regard Techrights as a fake news source?Aug 12 01:16
schestowitzNobody wants to be responsible nowadays so they use (among other things) algorithms as a lame excuse despite they paid somebody to create them.Aug 12 01:16
schestowitz"Aug 12 01:16
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9y1fSLNWbx3soIwXpIAug 12 01:17
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schestowitz"redhat sold out at the worst possible time for them. Present conditions would have garnered so much more profit from support services."Aug 12 01:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DscheynBond007_/status/1293269418026438658Aug 12 01:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DscheynBond007_: @techreview https://t.co/eWXUCraaqqAug 12 01:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: One week before the #billgates -connected media shifted attention to RMS in #MIT (which Gates had bribed through hi… https://t.co/RcdejZP9jZAug 12 01:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ziks297/status/1293211637755805696Aug 12 01:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ziks297: @schestowitz Best to sit downstairs, close the blinds and curtains where the sun in and let the breeze in from shady side of the house.Aug 12 01:21
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18758388#3032d2b0be2301382e775f1057eab968Aug 12 06:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Linux users are finally getting this popular password manager http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140653#comment-26091Aug 12 06:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Back Doors, EFF, Trump/Microsoft Blackmail and 1Password on GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesAug 12 06:01
schestowitz"Aug 12 06:01
schestowitzAug 12 06:01
schestowitzWhich popular password manager?? What's "this"?Aug 12 06:01
schestowitz"\Aug 12 06:01
schestowitz> Hi Roy, Aug 12 06:26
schestowitz> Aug 12 06:26
schestowitz> Aug 12 06:26
schestowitz> This Wednesday, RiskIQ is releasing its “ScamNation” research reportAug 12 06:26
schestowitz> outlining how false and inflammatory news stories about the COVID-19Aug 12 06:26
schestowitz> pandemic are developed by content farms.Aug 12 06:26
schestowitz> Aug 12 06:26
schestowitz> Aug 12 06:26
schestowitz> RiskIQ threat researcher Jordan Herman and independent researcher RyanAug 12 06:26
schestowitz> Foote dive into this ecosystem between partisan content farms thatAug 12 06:26
schestowitz> monetize through ad revenue, ad networks that take a cut of the profit,Aug 12 06:26
schestowitz> and advertisers that use the generated traffic to ensnare victims inAug 12 06:26
schestowitz> subscription traps. Aug 12 06:26
schestowitz> Aug 12 06:26
schestowitz> Aug 12 06:26
schestowitz> Under embargo: Wednesday, August 12 @ 6am ESTAug 12 06:27
schestowitz> Aug 12 06:27
schestowitz> Aug 12 06:27
schestowitz> Let me know if you’d like to review the report in advance!Aug 12 06:27
schestowitz> Aug 12 06:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18095671#e22af8a0769c01384e3e7a163ef10931Aug 12 07:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "the city, once a national center of steel manufacturing and now a poster child for industrial decay" https://www.propublica.org/article/youngstown-chill-can Aug 12 07:12
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.propublica.org | Why a Struggling Rust Belt City Pinned Its Revival on a Self-Chilling Beverage Can — ProPublicaAug 12 07:12
schestowitzAll across the Northeast is scattered a string of these derelict cities…Aug 12 07:12
schestowitztomgrzAug 12 07:12
schestowitztomgrz - 3 months agoAug 12 07:12
schestowitzI could easily name more than a dozen.Aug 12 07:12
schestowitztomgrzAug 12 07:12
schestowitztomgrz - 3 months agoAug 12 07:12
schestowitzWaterbury Connecticut is a poster-child for the error of our ways. Once the biggest producer of brass products in the world - now destitute.Aug 12 07:12
schestowitztomgrzAug 12 07:12
schestowitztomgrz - 3 months agoAug 12 07:12
schestowitzI actually worked in a factory there as they were selling the machinery out from under us to China.Aug 12 07:12
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:12
schestowitzUnless it is weapons, outsourced to China...Aug 12 07:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18307414#f2f54d608abe0138421108002785b8a8Aug 12 07:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The churches needs to send the racist president, the Republican party, the One Percent, the warmakers and all racist supporters of the unjust status quo the holy message that Christians across the board reject their violence" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/06/05/keep-good-book-closed-trump-says-we-say-open-it-and-resist Aug 12 07:14
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.commondreams.org | Keep the Good Book Closed, Trump Says. We Say, Open It and Resist! | Common Dreams ViewsAug 12 07:14
schestowitzthey might find their hands a bit tied. although im a vocal opponent of this very argument (because i think it is overplayed and exaggerated, and needs to be scruitinised heavily-- i think organisations frequently use it as an excuse to pander to corporate sponsors)Aug 12 07:14
schestowitza lot of tax-free organisations (including churches) are conditioned to be afraid of becoming “too political” for fear of losing their non-profit status. even if their concerns are unjustified (and im not saying theyre entirely wrong, either) this creates a great deal of inaction where action is expected. theyre not going to sabotage their budgets for this. i shit you not. please note, this is a critique of how non-profits are Aug 12 07:14
schestowitzrun these days-- this is not a critique of the people that belong to them.Aug 12 07:14
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16889744#3fad96100f8e01381e917a163ef10931Aug 12 07:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The American Democratic Party has a problem with white working-class America – they lost them, or at least large segments of them to Donald Trump’s Republican Party." https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/01/trump-democrats-and-the-lumpenproletariat-problem/ Aug 12 07:19
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.counterpunch.org | Trump, Democrats and the Lumpenproletariat Problem - CounterPunch.orgAug 12 07:19
schestowitzHmmm, The arguments here are not fullly correct:Aug 12 07:19
schestowitzThis part is true: Yet it was not so much the signing of the civil rights act as it was the abandonment of class and the embrace of identity politics that cost the Democrats the South and white working class. When US deindustrialization started to kick in during the 1970s, Democrats failed to offer a competing economic response to the global restructuring of capitalism.Aug 12 07:19
schestowitzThis is partly true:Aug 12 07:19
schestowitzClassic Communist Manifesto Marx would have said that these actions were part of a crisis of late stage capitalism characterized by a declining ability of the bourgeoisie to maintain profits. This should have resulted in the increasing immiserization of the proletariat and the development of the conditions for revolutionary consciousness and action. Yet it did not happen, leading some to suggest that Marx was wrong about capitalism Aug 12 07:19
schestowitzand class struggle.Aug 12 07:19
schestowitz– there is an increasing immiseration of the working poor and non-working poor.Aug 12 07:19
schestowitzThis is not a given:Aug 12 07:19
schestowitzwhile progressive candidates such as Bernie Sanders may be able to shift some of these voters to them, betting on wholesale shifting of the Lumpenproletariat to the Democrats is unlikely.Aug 12 07:19
schestowitz– It may be unlikely, but if the Democrats could somehow miraculously support a candidate such as Sanders - or an even more charismatic “Sanders” at some future juncture, there could be a sea-change.Aug 12 07:19
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:20
schestowitz"And the Dems do not want to know about it. They refuse to understand why."Aug 12 07:20
schestowitzKamala is a catastrophe (the left will stay home) https://twitter.com/Ventuckyspaz/status/1293304887774785536 https://twitter.com/Ventuckyspaz/status/1293303432258838528    https://twitter.com/Ventuckyspaz/status/1293297633683836929  https://twitter.com/Ventuckyspaz/status/1157130761415249922  https://twitter.com/Ventuckyspaz/status/1202074092435734529Aug 12 07:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Ventuckyspaz: Wasn't @TulsiGabbard the real MVP when she sent this tweet thread out? A sitting congresswoman and presidential can… https://t.co/sSxhDcaqsjAug 12 07:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Ventuckyspaz: Wasn't @TulsiGabbard the real MVP when she sent this tweet thread out? A sitting congresswoman and presidential can… https://t.co/sSxhDcaqsjAug 12 07:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Ventuckyspaz: Just wanted to mention that Tulsi Gabbard battled against the two most dangerous women in politics, Kamala Harris &… https://t.co/Byr1mnCUmTAug 12 07:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Ventuckyspaz: Just wanted to mention that Tulsi Gabbard battled against the two most dangerous women in politics, Kamala Harris &… https://t.co/Byr1mnCUmTAug 12 07:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Ventuckyspaz: I can't believe that Biden's campaign actually picked Kamala. The attack ads practically write themselves. Also thi… https://t.co/nZ2YtTRjY9Aug 12 07:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Ventuckyspaz: I can't believe that Biden's campaign actually picked Kamala. The attack ads practically write themselves. Also thi… https://t.co/nZ2YtTRjY9Aug 12 07:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Ventuckyspaz: @TulsiGabbard goes on @TuckerCarlson and discusses Tulsi confronting @KamalaHarris with her record and her deflect… https://t.co/QJLbqsDb8NAug 12 07:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Ventuckyspaz: @TulsiGabbard goes on @TuckerCarlson and discusses Tulsi confronting @KamalaHarris with her record and her deflect… https://t.co/QJLbqsDb8NAug 12 07:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Ventuckyspaz: Hear that @BernieSanders? According to @HillaryClinton it's your fault that failed presidential candidate… https://t.co/NTA2h2BxqOAug 12 07:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Ventuckyspaz: Hear that @BernieSanders? According to @HillaryClinton it's your fault that failed presidential candidate… https://t.co/NTA2h2BxqOAug 12 07:20
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18417516#fa3216f09ba20138b440722ef41c0a88Aug 12 07:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux Foundation has a "Newsletter" now https://cloud.email.thelinuxfoundation.org/Lf-newsletter-June-2020 am I crazy, or does this site run Microsoft Windows?! Aug 12 07:22
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> cloud.email.thelinuxfoundation.org | NO TITLEAug 12 07:22
schestowitz*.aspx plug-insAug 12 07:22
schestowitzDr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Aug 12 07:22
schestowitzDr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) - about a month agoAug 12 07:22
schestowitzThey pay Microsoft BACKAug 12 07:22
schestowitztomgrzAug 12 07:22
schestowitztomgrz - about a month agoAug 12 07:22
schestowitzFamily Love.Aug 12 07:22
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16611412#bb9c50d0f30101371ea17a163ef10931Aug 12 07:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Two chief of #gnomefoundation already defected to #microsoft or, more likely, they worked for Microsoft all along. There's something dark about this Foundation. http://techrights.org/2019/11/07/gnome-foundation-oin-ibm/Aug 12 07:23
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:23
schestowitzmore likely, they worked for Microsoft all alongAug 12 07:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | The GNOME Foundation’s Potentially Useless Defense Strategy is an OIN-Styled ‘Fix’ and Not a Software Patents Fix (Abolition) | TechrightsAug 12 07:23
schestowitzIt’s been known to happen.Aug 12 07:23
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:23
schestowitzThis is how movements dieAug 12 07:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16887271#77a89be0216101386b897a163ef10931Aug 12 07:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We do not use Linux. But we run "Linux Foundation" and "Linux dot com". Like a Ford CEO who drives a Japanese car around, insisting even in public that it is superior.Aug 12 07:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_d953ae2c6d142cc909ff.jpegAug 12 07:24
schestowitz"I think a Wikipedia page is in order…"Aug 12 07:24
schestowitzNot much is known about his past, maybe because it's not significantAug 12 07:24
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18615143#4458a030acf501388d9f722ef41c0a88Aug 12 07:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #MLflow is now a #LinuxFoundation project http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139170#comment-25872 #linux can become synonymous with #surveillance if this carries on. #zemlinPAC Aug 12 07:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation: The MLflow Project and Zephyr Project | Tux MachinesAug 12 07:24
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:24
schestowitzML is a really great computer language. This thing is something else.Aug 12 07:24
schestowitztomgrzAug 12 07:24
schestowitztomgrz - 22 days agoAug 12 07:25
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ML_(programming_language)Aug 12 07:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | ML (programming language) - WikipediaAug 12 07:25
schestowitztomgrzAug 12 07:25
schestowitztomgrz - 22 days agoAug 12 07:25
schestowitzML preceded MLflow by many years. Now everyone is confused.Aug 12 07:25
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:25
schestowitzI remember MLAug 12 07:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/karolherbst/status/1293174195153776641Aug 12 07:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@karolherbst: @linuxtoday things would be more "acceptable" if the article wouldn't sound like being written by a conspiracy nutcase.Aug 12 07:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TheJigisUp10/status/1293342581980401664Aug 12 08:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TheJigisUp10: @AOECOIN @schestowitz @true_pundit @GenFlynn @realDonaldTrump @DrJudyAMikovits @RobertKennedyJr @VRSVirginia… https://t.co/XmN6XIQM1MAug 12 08:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TheJigisUp10: @AOECOIN @schestowitz @true_pundit @GenFlynn @realDonaldTrump @DrJudyAMikovits @RobertKennedyJr @VRSVirginia… https://t.co/XmN6XIQM1MAug 12 08:42
schestowitz"Aug 12 08:42
schestowitzAnd for the lockdown! @schestowitzAug 12 08:42
schestowitz says they’ve been waiting six+months for the police to fulfill their public request for information about the 2,831 page police report!  The Seattle PD, which uses Microsoft for its computers Aug 12 08:42
schestowitzFace with rolling eyesAug 12 08:42
schestowitzTriangular flag on postAug 12 08:42
schestowitz),says they’ve been having issues sending it.Aug 12 08:42
schestowitz"\Aug 12 08:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/WeAre_JohnGalt/status/1293352021391577089Aug 12 08:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@WeAre_JohnGalt: @schestowitz @boycottnovell @realDonaldTrump Clearly you don't understand economics.Aug 12 08:42
schestowitz> so last year, phoronix was complaining about pango (author, esfahbod)Aug 12 08:50
schestowitz> dropping support for bitmap fonts and requiring harfbuzz (author,Aug 12 08:50
schestowitz> esfahbod-- github)Aug 12 08:50
schestowitz> Aug 12 08:50
schestowitz> also last year, gnome devs started complaining about gtk3 suddenlyAug 12 08:50
schestowitz> requiring harfbuzz for things that didnt need it before.Aug 12 08:50
schestowitz> Aug 12 08:50
schestowitz> now emacs is bragging that its using harfbuzz (github).Aug 12 08:50
schestowitz> Aug 12 08:50
schestowitz> esfahbod is the author of both pango (gnome, gitLAB) and harfbuzzAug 12 08:51
schestowitz> (gitHUB) and in the past year gnome has gone from making it at leastAug 12 08:51
schestowitz> somewhat optional (at least it seems) to a hard dependency going forward.Aug 12 08:51
schestowitz> Aug 12 08:51
schestowitz> so apart from libffi and zlib1g this is now a third reason that gnomeAug 12 08:51
schestowitz> makes you use github. and for gnu icecat, this is reason 4 or 5 or 6Aug 12 08:51
schestowitz> (librejs/libjasmine/rust)Aug 12 08:51
schestowitz> Aug 12 08:51
schestowitz> microsoft GNU!Aug 12 08:51
schestowitz> Aug 12 08:51
schestowitz> kde uses it too. but im not sure if they need it as badly as gtk3. iAug 12 08:51
schestowitz> normally DONT pull in the deps for kde-- i liked 3.5, i only use kdeAug 12 08:51
schestowitz> when i have no choice.Aug 12 08:51
schestowitz> Aug 12 08:51
schestowitz> do all gui apps need harfbuzz? fortunately, NO. but all gnome apps (withAug 12 08:51
schestowitz> text) will.Aug 12 08:51
schestowitz> Aug 12 08:51
schestowitz> thank behdad esfahbod, DA REAL microsoft github mvp!Aug 12 08:51
schestowitzI tried to convince curl to quit Github for over a year. Spoke about it to daniel (chief) for almost a week now, still no success...Aug 12 08:51
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/2000Monkeh/status/1293579998503350277Aug 12 20:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@2000Monkeh: BILL GATES ENGINEER ARRESTED FOR CP: https://t.co/P5OWQLF8daAug 12 20:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/08/10/rick-allen-jones-anomaly/ )Aug 12 20:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/g_easton819/status/1293550041450209281Aug 12 20:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@g_easton819: @Cara_TXZEAL @AmericaRising17 https://t.co/lMUrCTrahBAug 12 20:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Baby_Blue_2013/status/1293573795807100932Aug 12 20:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Baby_Blue_2013: 08/10/20 Release: Bill Gates’ Engineer Busted for More Child Pornography Than Reported in the Media. https://t.co/Xe0jFmkonJAug 12 20:44

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