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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CPriestess/status/1171954432600367105Sep 12 04:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CPriestess: @DailyCaller I'll just leave this here... https://t.co/sCenyrPRzgSep 12 04:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Thousands of Child Rape Photos Traded Out of Bill Gates’ Mansion | TechrightsSep 12 04:29
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9mnvAUhs1X5PjguNqCSep 12 04:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaSep 12 04:47
schestowitz" same"Sep 12 04:47
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9mp3O6J2Jd8SLAnw6iSep 12 04:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaSep 12 04:48
schestowitz"your own, personal, police"Sep 12 04:48
schestowitzvery strange. Works here.Sep 12 04:48
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15962428#c443a55c-125d-7937-9a58-d81126616499Sep 12 05:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Debian 10: Playing catch-up with the rest of the Linux world (that’s a good thing) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128014Sep 12 05:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 10: Playing catch-up with the rest of the Linux world (that’s a good thing) | Tux MachinesSep 12 05:16
schestowitz"Sep 12 05:16
schestowitzSep 12 05:16
schestowitz@Linux Debian is built on stability, I would rather have something stable than introduce something that causes issues.Sep 12 05:16
schestowitz"Sep 12 05:16
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15962504#787151d0b6f80137df0b000c292435c8Sep 12 05:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: My #Ubuntu Reached EOL, What Should I Do? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128019 #gnu #linux Sep 12 05:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | My Ubuntu Reached EOL, What Should I Do? | Tux MachinesSep 12 05:16
schestowitz"Sep 12 05:16
schestowitzSep 12 05:16
schestowitzInstall a current version, old stuff doesn't get security updates but still has security problems.Sep 12 05:16
schestowitzIt's hardly a good idea to keep that old stuff on the webs just because "I don't want to dist-upgrade".Sep 12 05:16
schestowitz"Sep 12 05:16
schestowitz"Update to the next version? Or maybe get a rolling distro next time! ;)"Sep 12 05:17
schestowitzme: "Any update on how to proceed with the story?"Sep 12 05:44
schestowitzHi,Sep 12 05:48
schestowitzI've replaced the images, in two places, and renamed the old one "1" instead of "2".Sep 12 05:48
schestowitzYou can see the new image inSep 12 05:48
schestowitzAt the moment the CDN gives its cached version of the image (i.e. the old one), but this will expire and then the new one should show up.Sep 12 05:48
schestowitz Sep 12 05:48
schestowitz(Maybe it will have expired by the time you read it, depending on time, location, CDN's datacentre. Force-flushing cache would slow down the site.)Sep 12 05:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/traumen351/status/1171894104755716097Sep 12 05:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@traumen351: @schestowitz @ElaineNiddery You mean non EuropeansSep 12 05:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1171897959153381378Sep 12 05:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: "Everyone is a target there. The children are in acute danger of kidnapping (and of contracting life-ruining illnes… https://t.co/UncsiKvBYGSep 12 05:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: "Everyone is a target there. The children are in acute danger of kidnapping (and of contracting life-ruining illnes… https://t.co/UncsiKvBYGSep 12 05:52
schestowitz""Everyone is a target there. The children are in acute danger of kidnapping (and of contracting life-ruining illnesses). The women live in perpetual fear of sexual assault and, I was told, some carry condoms to—perhaps, maybe—engineer self-care while being brutally raped""Sep 12 05:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/1171900930012246018Sep 12 05:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @TastyNutsHmm @schestowitz @wikileaks Good question! @UNHumanRightsSep 12 05:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1171952573303197697Sep 12 05:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: What was the percentage increase in corporate profits? Bet that went up too. https://t.co/1JCPQyETgwSep 12 05:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "health insurance edged up in 2018 — the first evidence from the government that coverage gains from President Bara… https://t.co/nUCPziW1s5Sep 12 05:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MAurelius161180/status/1171964975113359360Sep 12 05:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MAurelius161180: @schestowitz @wikileaks Please watch this. It's actually quite difficult to buy a machine gun in America. https://t.co/lkT9ZVjh3DSep 12 05:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com | How To Buy A Machine Gun Legally - YouTubeSep 12 05:53
schestowitzmachine guns are far to heavy to carry around and carry out mass shootings with, so that's beside the pointSep 12 05:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15205108#7e919c0072d80137ec367a163ef10931Sep 12 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Owning' shapes because billionaires in the car industry bribed politicians for protectionist laws http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/06/there-is-no-substitute-for-porsche.htmlSep 12 05:59
schestowitz"Sep 12 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> ipkitten.blogspot.com | There is No Substitute for a Porsche – Except another Porsche? - The IPKatSep 12 05:59
schestowitzSep 12 05:59
schestowitzI guess that porche is stuck with it now.Sep 12 05:59
schestowitz"Sep 12 05:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15940039#dca22c60b5100137a2332b74f192e9d8Sep 12 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Owning' beats http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/09/drake-sued-for-copyright-infringement.html #groklaw had much to say about such lunacy. #copyright #beats #monopoly #drums Sep 12 05:59
schestowitz"Sep 12 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> ipkitten.blogspot.com | Drake sued for copyright infringement of a beat - The IPKatSep 12 05:59
schestowitzwoohoo! “boomshakalaka” = richrichrich! let’s party! Tokyo here we come :)Sep 12 05:59
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 05:59
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 3 days ago Sep 12 05:59
schestowitzfucking sad #boycottriaaSep 12 05:59
schestowitz Clarice Boomshakalaka BouvierSep 12 05:59
schestowitzClarice Boomshakalaka Bouvier - 3 days ago Sep 12 05:59
schestowitzi wonder who owns 4/4…“Grug the Caveman sues entire planet”Sep 12 05:59
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 05:59
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 3 days ago Sep 12 05:59
schestowitztss-tt, tss-tss-tt, tss-tss-tt, tss-tss-tt ©Sep 12 06:00
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:00
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 3 days ago Sep 12 06:00
schestowitza b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u w x y z ©Sep 12 06:00
schestowitz Clarice Boomshakalaka BouvierSep 12 06:00
schestowitzClarice Boomshakalaka Bouvier - 3 days ago Sep 12 06:00
schestowitzhahaha <big thumb thing> primary-school music classes are going to be a lot more quiet…that could be a plus.Sep 12 06:00
schestowitz“Nearly 22 million pounds enter the Great Lakes each year—more than half of which pours into Lake Michigan”Sep 12 06:00
schestowitz“pours”??? And how does that happen?Sep 12 06:00
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 06:00
schestowitztomgrz - about 17 hours ago Sep 12 06:00
schestowitzHmmm…Sep 12 06:00
schestowitzMatthew Hoffman, the lead author of the Rochester Institute of Technology estimate, said population centers like Chicago and Milwaukee are large contributors to plastics pollution in Lake Michigan. In addition to trash that can drift into the water from beaches, wastewater treatment facilities are significant sources of microplastics. Before a federal ban in 2017, some soaps and facial scrubs contained microbeads that were rinsed down the Sep 12 06:00
schestowitzdrain into waterways. The majority of microplastics are tiny fibers that break off from synthetic fabrics when people do laundry.Sep 12 06:01
schestowitzCotton only!Sep 12 06:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15958870#76b65380b6bc013709797a163ef10931Sep 12 06:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: " #Plastic debris makes up about 80% of the litter on Great Lakes shorelines. Nearly 22 million pounds enter the #GreatLakes each year—more than half of which pours into Lake Michigan, according to estimates calculated" https://phys.org/news/2019-09-million-pounds-plastics-great-lakes.htmlSep 12 06:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> phys.org | 22 million pounds of plastics enter the Great Lakes each yearSep 12 06:01
schestowitzThat would be expensive. We have made accustomed to wardrobes with dozens of clothing items for each occasion, each cheaply made far awaySep 12 06:01
schestowitzThat would be expensive. We have been made accustomed to wardrobes with dozens of clothing items for each occasion, each cheaply made far awaySep 12 06:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15317036#c6018ca07d5d0137ad8252540039b762Sep 12 06:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ""We have to save [the planet] starting at the local and small level, the first thing is Madrid's centre," actress Laura Martin, 39, told Reuters news agency. " https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48814970Sep 12 06:02
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:02
schestowitzwho needs a car in the city? NOBODY. i was told you are nuts if you drive in New York.Sep 12 06:02
schestowitzSep 12 06:02
schestowitzSilouettE - 2 months ago Sep 12 06:02
schestowitzthe main problem is lobbying: cities like Copenhagen, Denmark and others have over years invested in bicycle friendlyness of their infrastructure.Sep 12 06:02
schestowitz15 of the World’s Most Bike-Friendly CitiesSep 12 06:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bbc.com | 'Madrid Central' protest: Thousands oppose suspension of anti-pollution plan - BBC NewsSep 12 06:02
schestowitzCOPENHAGEN, DENMARK. Copenhagen is often considered the most bike-friendly city in the world. ...Sep 12 06:02
schestowitzAMSTERDAM, NETHERLANDS. You can't really experience Amsterdam without taking a spin on a bicycle. ...Sep 12 06:02
schestowitzPORTLAND, OREGON. ...Sep 12 06:02
schestowitzBOULDER, COLORADO. ...Sep 12 06:02
schestowitzMONTREAL, CANADA. ...Sep 12 06:02
schestowitzTOKYO, JAPAN. ...Sep 12 06:03
schestowitzRIO DE JANIERO, BRAZIL. ...Sep 12 06:03
schestowitzSTRASBOURG, FRANCE.Sep 12 06:03
schestowitzSep 12 06:03
schestowitzSilouettE - 2 months ago Sep 12 06:03
schestowitzhttps://mentalfloss.com/article/76848/15-worlds-most-bike-friendly-citiesSep 12 06:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mentalfloss.com | 15 of the World’s Most Bike-Friendly Cities | Mental FlossSep 12 06:03
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15371445#2a920b1082a40137e5940cc47a07853cSep 12 06:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "AI blockchain" Let's chain some buzzwords and hype, then top it up with #openwashing for 'good measure'. #HeyHi https://www.computerweekly.com/blog/Open-Source-Insider/Loopring-opens-route-to-AI-blockchain-tradingSep 12 06:03
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.computerweekly.com | Loopring opens route to AI blockchain trading - Open Source InsiderSep 12 06:03
schestowitzthey forgot “cloud!”Sep 12 06:03
schestowitzhttps://share.naturalnews.com/posts/9dd032e082a201373abc0218b72fdf43Sep 12 06:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-share.naturalnews.com | #ibm #openwashing and #cloudwashing while pushing #proprietarysoftw...Sep 12 06:03
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15947771#8df58f90b5ba01379f8611671e93ecc6Sep 12 06:03
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:03
schestowitzSep 12 06:04
schestowitzHello Google Hello Siri Hello Amazon You are already here Facebook ? Where are our governement ?Sep 12 06:04
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "AI" or "hey hi" is what #corporatemedia owned by large corporations decided to call a lot of #surveillance and #oppression techSep 12 06:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_c0249c10985fc8029880.jpgSep 12 06:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15519831#c0c737d092d70137fe6f0cc47a07853cSep 12 06:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "he has done great work on the disto over the years" -iophk https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnewsense-users/2019-07/msg00004.html #gnewsense #gnu #linux Sep 12 06:08
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> lists.nongnu.org | [gNewSense-users] Stepping downSep 12 06:08
schestowitzgnewsense is one of the reasons i recommend automating projects like it as much as possible.Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzeasy to say, yes-- but the more people work on that, the easier it is to keep projects like gnewsense going when things are handed over.Sep 12 06:08
schestowitz Will HillSep 12 06:08
schestowitzWill Hill - 2 months ago Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzThe people at GNewsense automated kernel liberation and passed it on to Libre Linux.Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzUpdates of GNewsense were regular before systemd. I’m hoping the work done by Devuan and maybe Guix will make the next update possible.Sep 12 06:08
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:08
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzI’m hoping the work done by Devuan and maybe Guix will make the next update possible.Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzdevuan perhaps. sceptical how guix could assist with this particular task.Sep 12 06:08
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 06:08
schestowitztomgrz - about a month ago Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzGuix is a radically different “unix” - something approaching the Hurd in it’s shift of emphasis from “root” to the user.Sep 12 06:08
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:08
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzalso a package manager, which is the only way i can possibly imagine it helping a debian-based distro.Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzstill not sure though.Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzof note is hyperbola which is arch-based, using devuan packages to 1. have stable releases rather than rolling 2. avoid systemd specifically. though this says nothing about guix and is about devuan.Sep 12 06:08
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 06:08
schestowitztomgrz - about a month ago Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzWell, there is GuixSD, which shows what they have in mind for Guix as part of a system. It’s more than a “package manager”, it’s really an approach toward a user-space OS.Sep 12 06:08
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:08
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzWell, there is GuixSDSep 12 06:08
schestowitzthe website for guix treats the distro and the package manager as two separate things (because the package manager can be used in more than one distro)Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzso i treat them as two separate things.Sep 12 06:08
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:08
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzIt’s more than a “package manager”Sep 12 06:08
schestowitzit is one nonetheless, and that is also the description that most people can relate to conceptually.Sep 12 06:08
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 06:08
schestowitztomgrz - about a month ago Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzWhatever.Sep 12 06:09
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:09
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzim a fan of guix, im eager for it to do well.Sep 12 06:09
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 06:09
schestowitztomgrz - about a month ago Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzMe, I see it as a new future. Linux/Unix is great, but it has been a victim of its own success. Change has been marginal. Somewhat like the internal combustion engine…Sep 12 06:09
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:09
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzlike the internal combustion engine…Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzgood analogy. progress that is lesser than a more ideal progress-- but popular, so holding the more ideal progress back.Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzexcept wrt to hurd which is ingenius (and based on something that was also ingenius) but imo hurd is not only superior-- it is simply less practical. worth pursuing-- less practical. another analogy perhaps is tesla vs. edison. i think the main thing that made tesla impractical was that companies wanted imperfect designs that would make them more money, rather than perfect ones that wouldnt. such a common trope in capitalism, Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzunfortunately-- milking the obsolete cow just because its there, and people will still pay for it.Sep 12 06:09
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 06:09
schestowitztomgrz - about a month ago Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzGood point. Where in the market are people asking for more power in their operating environment?Sep 12 06:09
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:09
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzi think the biggest problem with hurd from a marketing standpoint, is that MOST people dont want to drive a spaceship to work. a car is easier. linux is a car.Sep 12 06:09
schestowitznote ive used hurd. i dont understand it. when i first tried gnu/linux, i think it had less of a learning curve. when i used macos it had more of a learning curve, but (being real unix) i felt it was a little less friendly but still familiar.Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzi think hurd has huge potential, but for this imo the best measure is what the devs think. they seem more realistic about it than anybody else. feel free to add me to “anybody else,” they understand it better than i do. id like it to enjoy greater success.Sep 12 06:09
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15612910#bb7074d0a3470137b1a90cc47a07853cSep 12 06:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "IBM PC Compatible": how adversarial #interoperability saved PCs from #monopolization http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126637 better yet, @doctorow can speak of #freedom as in #freesw (not just choice or competition)Sep 12 06:09
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | "IBM PC Compatible": how adversarial interoperability saved PCs from monopolization | Tux MachinesSep 12 06:09
schestowitzi like when people say gnu/linux, at this point im not even sure we need the “/linux” part.Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzwhat the fuck is linux?Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzwhen i suggested this to stallman he said he doesnt want to “stoop to their level”. what level? co-opting a real movement with marketing horseshit? rewriting history? selling everything off to corporations? im not sure how referring to the gnu operating system as “gnu” is any of those things. thats what they call it on the fsf website: “the gnu operating system.” stallmans nicer than i am though. personally i think the offer Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzof “gnu/linux” should be rescinded to everyone who hasnt already accepted. when talking to a group that calls it “gnu/linux,” then calling it that is reasonable.Sep 12 06:09
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15917129#bb0ebba0b2b801378d6f002590d8e506Sep 12 06:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Microsoft’s recent love for open-source." LOL. Watch the #microsoft spinners continuing to exploit RMS to spread this lie (attacks as "love") https://fossbytes.com/richard-stallman-microsofts-office/Sep 12 06:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> fossbytes.com | Richard Stallman Went To Microsoft’s Office — Here’s What HappenedSep 12 06:10
schestowitz"When ?"Sep 12 06:10
schestowitz"Why?'Sep 12 06:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15684612#b09a9e10a05f013709537a163ef10931Sep 12 06:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The #uk #PirateParty feed is blocked by Cloudflare," a friend tells me. Surely they should know better. #Cloudflare needs to be avoided. http://techrights.org/2019/02/17/the-cloudflare-trap/Sep 12 06:11
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:11
schestowitzDo not use the DNS name server 1.1.1.1Sep 12 06:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Don’t Use Cloudflare Because You Impose This on People Who Least Want It | TechrightsSep 12 06:11
schestowitzSep 12 06:11
schestowitzTed - 29 days ago Sep 12 06:11
schestowitzWhich DNS server(s) is/are preferred?Sep 12 06:11
schestowitzSep 12 06:11
schestowitztomgrz - 29 days ago Sep 12 06:11
schestowitzhttps://www.opennic.org/Sep 12 06:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.opennic.org | OpenNIC ProjectSep 12 06:12
schestowitzSep 12 06:12
schestowitzTed - 29 days ago Sep 12 06:12
schestowitzApparently, I am so non tech savvy that I don’t know how to use information provided at the opennic site. How do I determine which DNS address to use on my computer?Sep 12 06:12
schestowitzSep 12 06:12
schestowitztomgrz - 29 days ago Sep 12 06:12
schestowitzSorry.Sep 12 06:12
schestowitzhttps://servers.opennic.org/Sep 12 06:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-servers.opennic.org | OpenNIC Public ServersSep 12 06:12
schestowitzSep 12 06:12
schestowitzTed - 29 days ago Sep 12 06:12
schestowitzThis is much harder than choosing a pod on diaspora using https://podupti.meSep 12 06:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-podupti.me | Open Source Social Network Pod Uptime StatusSep 12 06:12
schestowitzSep 12 06:12
schestowitztomgrz - 29 days ago Sep 12 06:12
schestowitzThe nations to choose are listed at the top. You can ping the ip to see how fast they respond. But yeah, there are other less technical, more privacy-oriented factors also.Sep 12 06:12
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15959104#b0440f20b729013752370cc47a07853cSep 12 06:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I am really not sure (and quite frankly battled by) why Benjamin Mako Hill is messing around with #proprietarysoftware and #surveillance and #censorship ... like #reddit and #discord https://mako.cc/copyrighteous/how-discord-moderators-build-innovative-solutions-to-problems-of-scale-with-the-past-as-a-guideSep 12 06:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> mako.cc | How Discord moderators build innovative solutions to problems of scale with the past as a guide – copyrighteousSep 12 06:20
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:20
schestowitzjesus christ, whats going on? this guy said just THREE YEARS AGO we should “distance ourselves further from open source.”Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzdid they go after his kids, or what? (does he have kids?)Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzdont get me wrong, given this is mako i really hope we are taking this out of context. what bothers me is that if you strip his name from it, it reads like SO MANY articles that are written by bullshit apologists these days. you know, like swapnil.Sep 12 06:21
schestowitztwo old favourites that i feel help to define him: when free software isnt better https://mako.cc/writing/hill-when_free_software_isnt_better.htmlSep 12 06:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mako.cc | When Free Software Isn't Better :: Benjamin Mako HillSep 12 06:21
schestowitzin defense of negativity https://mako.cc/writing/hill-in_defense_of_negativity.htmlSep 12 06:21
schestowitz Alexandre OlivaSep 12 06:21
schestowitzAlexandre Oliva - about 10 hours ago Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzholy gnu, the team is doing research and even concluding freedom to program tools one uses, combined with experience and creativity lead to great resultsSep 12 06:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mako.cc | In Defense of Negativity :: Benjamin Mako HillSep 12 06:21
schestowitzshould we blind ourselves from good science just because there’s proprietary stuff involved? I don’t think so. if we can learn from any sources, and make that knowledge available to freedom supporters, we end up better offSep 12 06:21
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:21
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 9 hours ago Sep 12 06:21
schestowitz@Alexandre Oliva i have always been concerned, and even mentioned to you once, that i think the policy about not promoting non-free software (the letter, not the spirit of it-- the spirit of it is important) stifles such discussion.Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzthere are indeed people working with non-free software doing research that we can benefit from. so we agree that the science itself is of benefit.Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzi would not expect mako of all people to get this wrong, im not saying he has. only that i can appreciate what i imagine are roys first reactions to such an article. as to appearances:Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzin dealing with both critics and allies, it is always more useful to look past the superficial-- towards motivations, true nature and real effects. society encourages the shallow evaluation of goods and services, as well as of people. vital communities must do better in this regard than general society, if they wish to thrive.Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzhttps://freemedia.neocities.org/thrive.html its just that we have seen so many compromises, i think it is developing into a bit of a nervous tic. i prefer to think of mako as an illuminary, hes on my very short list of stallman-like people that you have occupied for years-- at one point he was at the top. whats changed? only that i fear he is possibly too quiet. the list is more important than the speculation about ranking, the ranking is Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzincidental. what matters is we need more people like rms. including ben mako hill.Sep 12 06:21
schestowitz Alexandre OlivaSep 12 06:21
schestowitzAlexandre Oliva - about 7 hours ago Sep 12 06:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-freemedia.neocities.org | free media allianceSep 12 06:21
schestowitzhmm, maybe mentioning the tools and disservices could have been avoided, so as to not give anyone the incorrect notion that they were in any way necessary to accomplish the feats. the description could have focused on the facts, but it’s not hard to imagine it could make the description more convoluted, though, and certainly the scientific observations would be harder to replicate that waySep 12 06:21
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:21
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 7 hours ago Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzit’s not hard to imagine it could make the description more convoluted, thoughSep 12 06:21
schestowitzi want to live in a world where it remains trivial to discuss formal scientific and related reasearch and experimentation. im aware this means that we are subject to false studies like the infamous microsoft-funded ones, gartner published 20 years ago, for purposes of fud. it also exposes us to all other research that involves modern technology.Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzi realise the fsf never made a hard fast rule against this, and more importantly-- it never intended to. when i say im concerned that the rules about not promoting non-free software get in the way of this, i dont mean it hypothetically.Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzi mean that it actually happens.Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzim not saying we should be apathetic, only that the rules we follow dont always do people (or issues) much justice. take makos article-- the style reminds us too much of something we know is illegitimate, and in some ways its hard not to react to it the same way. im trying and its still difficult.Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzif that can happen to mako it can happen to anyone.Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzif it can happen to anyone, we are very possibly (and i think actually) stifling or overreacting to a lot of perfectly legitimate and beneficial conversation, just to err on the “safe side” of not promoting non-free software.Sep 12 06:21
schestowitznon-free software is an attack on the user, i dont dispute that nor do i want to “promote” it. what im getting at here, is that overly simple criteria for what constitutes “promotion” is going to bring us into situations like this time and time again. thankfully, mako understands and is fluent in exactly the sorts of nuance and less overly simplified debate that we need to move forward. hooray for that.Sep 12 06:21
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 06:21
schestowitztomgrz - about 5 hours ago Sep 12 06:21
schestowitz“non-free software is an attack on the user”Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzNow more than ever. Windows is outright aggression. I’m not sure how anyone can “move forward” from this, other than a response back.Sep 12 06:21
schestowitz Alexandre OlivaSep 12 06:21
schestowitzAlexandre Oliva - about 5 hours ago Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzI suppose everyone can use more critical thinking and multi-layer thinking, to see beneath the surface and reason about underlying facts rather than the superficial contextSep 12 06:21
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 06:21
schestowitztomgrz - about 4 hours ago Sep 12 06:21
schestowitzThe deeper you go, the worse it looks. ;-)Sep 12 06:21
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:22
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 4 hours ago Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzThe deeper you go, the worse it looksSep 12 06:22
schestowitzdo you think mako is selling out? because i doubt it. im not trying to put words in your mouth, im just curious. if you meant in general, i.e. “the devils in the details” then sure. in fact ignoring the big picture can be very self-defeating. the big picture and the details are meant to work together, even if some of us have greater strengths on one area than the other (all the more reason to work together when possible.)Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzon the one hand, we cant let fear of being taken out of context make us silent (and if we did, we would be guilty of my #1 complaint about the fsf-- being afraid to comment, or stifled.) on the other, we can still talk about the practical issues around putting things in a way that gets us into trouble.Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzdo your best and dont worrySep 12 06:22
schestowitzdo your best and look for ways to do it smarter, and consider those-- but dont be silent.Sep 12 06:22
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:22
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 4 hours ago Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzits a good time (the best possible time) for oliva to be on the board, because imo mako is like stallman but quieter, (when he talks its usually good stuff) while oliva is like stallman but… maybe less quiet.Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzif my complaint is about the fsf being quiet, oliva is just about the best possible person to have there. hes their least likely person to be quiet-- thats a great asset right now.Sep 12 06:22
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 06:22
schestowitztomgrz - about 4 hours ago Sep 12 06:22
schestowitz“The deeper you go, the worse it looks.”Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzNo, that was just a reference to Microsoft. Honestly, I do not think that Free Software should have anything to do with them.Sep 12 06:22
schestowitz Benjamin Mako HillSep 12 06:22
schestowitzBenjamin Mako Hill - about 3 hours ago Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzThank you all for engaging with my research.Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzAs a free software and free culture activist, my goal has been promoting individual freedom. Nothing has changed. As a social scientist, I try to understand how people can effectively use new communication technology to coordinate and work cooperatively. I’ve built a career studying this because I believe that understanding how these social processes play out online can help free software and culture communities—built on cooperative Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzwork and new technology—build free stuff and downstream freedom more effectively.Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzMost of my research is about free software and free culture communities because they are examples of the kinds of places I want my research to make a difference and it often makes sense to study the communities themselves.Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzI also think that the rest of the world has lots to teach free software. I read papers about big firms and ethically dubious projects all the time. Quite honestly, I think that people in free software communities could learn tons from folks in business school studying proprietary stuff about organization, leadership, and management. I wish they would. I think our movement would be much more effective if we didn’t have knee-jerk Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzreactions that caused us to dismiss knowledge that came from the “other side.”Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzI also think we can learn from them without being them or promoting them. I can’t really imagine that anyone would choose to use either Reddit or Discord because of my blog post or paper and I would have thought it was clear that it was describing something that happened in the platforms, not promoting either. If y’all really saw this as promotion, that’s something I’ll try to keep in mind in the future.Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzLet on my own, I would never have chosen to do this study. When a smart PhD student who does not share my politics about free software wanted to do it, I was happy to support and advise him in carrying it out. I’m proud of the result. I think we can learn from studying users innovating on top of proprietary platforms. I think that think the free software community can learn from what Charlie found in Discord and Reddit. I feel this way Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzboth as a social scientist as an activist.Sep 12 06:22
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzThank you for clarifying, BenjaminSep 12 06:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15754613#729d99e0a5760137e806002590d8e506Sep 12 06:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I am tempted to write a detailed rebuttal to the latest lies and trolling from #cbs tabloid #zdnet but I fear that doing so 1) would feed the trolls and 2) give them more traffic/visibility (can be read by people who did not even see the FUD)Sep 12 06:22
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzWhat article ?Sep 12 06:22
schestowitz Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzDr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) - 23 days ago Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzbetter not ask…Sep 12 06:22
schestowitz Will HillSep 12 06:22
schestowitzWill Hill - 23 days ago Sep 12 06:22
schestowitzBetter to spend your time doing what they are trying to take down. It’s good to note the effort, but yeah, don’t link or feed it.Sep 12 06:22
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:22
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 22 days ago Sep 12 06:22
schestowitz+1 will hill (amplify zdnet opponents in this matter instead of zdnet)Sep 12 06:22
schestowitz Will HillSep 12 06:23
schestowitzWill Hill - 21 days ago Sep 12 06:23
schestowitzThat’s a good way to put it, freemedia. Thanks!Sep 12 06:23
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:23
schestowitzLinking to it would feed it traffic and encourage ZDNet to keep that pestSep 12 06:23
schestowitzjust shows mankind won’t pay for their own propaganda no more… except in #Germany were you are FORCED BY LAW, to pay for state television propaganda. 🙈 no joke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beitragsservice_von_ARD,_ZDF_und_DeutschlandradioSep 12 06:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Beitragsservice von ARD, ZDF und Deutschlandradio - WikipediaSep 12 06:23
schestowitz Daniele VSep 12 06:23
schestowitzDaniele V - about a month ago Sep 12 06:23
schestowitzIn Italy as well canone raiSep 12 06:23
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:23
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:24
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_AmericaSep 12 06:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Voice of America - WikipediaSep 12 06:24
schestowitzin the 1980s, VOA also added a television serviceSep 12 06:24
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:24
schestowitzjust shows mankind won’t pay for their own propaganda no more… except in #Germany were you are FORCED BY LAW, to pay for state television propaganda. 🙈 no joke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beitragsservice_von_ARD,_ZDF_und_DeutschlandradioSep 12 06:24
schestowitz Daniele VSep 12 06:24
schestowitzDaniele V - about a month ago Sep 12 06:24
schestowitzIn Italy as well canone raiSep 12 06:24
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:24
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:24
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_AmericaSep 12 06:24
schestowitzin the 1980s, VOA also added a television serviceSep 12 06:24
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15574891#fe9eefd096120137ad9c52540039b762Sep 12 06:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I did that nearly 2 decades ago. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190729/10045342671/cord-cutting-is-setting-records-2019.shtmlSep 12 06:24
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beitragsservice_von_ARD,_ZDF_und_DeutschlandradioSep 12 06:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techdirt.com | Cord Cutting Is Setting Records In 2019 | TechdirtSep 12 06:24
schestowitzhttps://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canone_televisivo_in_ItaliaSep 12 06:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-it.m.wikipedia.org | Canone televisivo in Italia - WikipediaSep 12 06:24
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_AmericaSep 12 06:24
schestowitzI would hate to be forced for pay for that shiteSep 12 06:24
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15351392#5b6104c0809901375cce005056264835Sep 12 06:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tomw9@pluspora.com: I just want to say, thank you to all involved making this happen. https://twitter.com/DerekCressman/status/1146589326039326720Sep 12 06:25
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DerekCressman: A 16-foot-tall Trump sitting on a golden toilet will accompany 'Baby Trump' balloon https://t.co/6Z85JJ0qRuSep 12 06:25
schestowitzMarch on Washington! Remove Trump!Sep 12 06:25
schestowitz Kenny ChaffinSep 12 06:25
schestowitzKenny Chaffin - 2 months ago Sep 12 06:25
schestowitz…or Flush Him!Sep 12 06:25
schestowitz Tom WroblewskiSep 12 06:25
schestowitzTom Wroblewski - 2 months ago Sep 12 06:25
schestowitzCan’t flush him, he’ll clog up the sewer.Sep 12 06:25
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:25
schestowitzDrain the sewerSep 12 06:25
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15333779#be9913907efb01374b2d0cc47a07853cSep 12 06:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I am very, very VERY careful when criticising people. I think once, twice, THRICE before doing so. If I mention them by name, then it's because I decided they >definitely deserve< this.Sep 12 06:31
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:31
schestowitzif someone makes a careless / unfair comment, they should probably either explain it / justify it or take it back (unless nobody cares anyway)Sep 12 06:31
schestowitzobviously its better to be careful in the first place. but not everybody is so diplomatic. for example, torvalds.Sep 12 06:31
schestowitzmy problem with torvalds isnt that he makes rude comments. im completely fine with that-- in such a stifled landscape its refreshing. my concern is when his comments are dishonest. in fact, most of his rude comments are very honest and fundamentally reasonable (in everything except tone.) when hes dishonest, hes deeply dishonest. his smearing of all free software advocates is outrageously disingenuous, inexplicably hypocritical or both. i Sep 12 06:31
schestowitzwont forgive him, he has never taken it back. but it wont be better with gkh.Sep 12 06:31
schestowitz'Sep 12 06:31
schestowitzgreg is a lot worseSep 12 06:31
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schestowitzi believe as of 1999 they had failed in this, and claimed to be a victim of their own success (i that part i dont know if its from 99, i think perens mentioned it when he stepped down.) part of that on the osi blog somewhere.Sep 12 06:32
schestowitzthere are, from what i gather, two aspects of the brand here. the brand we know as “open source” will never be, i think its decades too late actually.Sep 12 06:32
schestowitzspecifically however, osi has a brand with a logo, and i believe that is protected. but since nobody cares about the osi logo unless theyre part of osi or paying osi, the term “open source” run rampant is-- well, meaningless in the context of enforcement. of course i could be wrong.Sep 12 06:32
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:32
schestowitzi believe as of 1999 they had failed in this, and claimed to be a victim of their own success (i that part i dont know if its from 99, i think perens mentioned it when he stepped down.) part of that on the osi blog somewhere.Sep 12 06:32
schestowitzthere are, from what i gather, two aspects of the brand here. the brand we know as “open source” will never be, i think its decades too late actually.Sep 12 06:32
schestowitzspecifically however, osi has a brand with a logo, and i believe that is protected. but since nobody cares about the osi logo unless theyre part of osi or paying osi, the term “open source” run rampant is-- well, meaningless in the context of enforcement. of course i could be wrong.Sep 12 06:32
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15489219#151dfac08de10137e5760cc47a07853cSep 12 06:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I am waiting to see whether @opensourceorg will ever actually enforce the #trademark to stop the dying #opensource brand from becoming 100% meaningless, even in relation to narcotics https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190718005187/en/Corporate-Update-Jacksam-Corporation-Announces-Organizational-OpenSep 12 06:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.businesswire.com | Corporate Update: Jacksam Corporation Announces Organizational Changes and Open Source Model to Enable the Majority of Cannabis and CBD Companies to Automate Post-extraction Processes | Business WireSep 12 06:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15425365#3199209087aa0137b85b005056264835Sep 12 06:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What does smart, IoT, AI and cloud even mean?Sep 12 06:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_2e7f119fd71723a0a96c.pngSep 12 06:33
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:33
schestowitzThey mean total and centralized control of everythingSep 12 06:33
schestowitzSep 12 06:33
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 months ago Sep 12 06:33
schestowitz^ that, and innovation™Sep 12 06:33
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:33
schestowitzWhatever the I word meansSep 12 06:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15519712#39c06c8090c5013716597a163ef10931Sep 12 06:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When #police murders things 'just in case' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190711/15223942573/appeals-court-says-no-rights-were-violated-when-cop-shot-non-threatening-dog-hit-kid-instead.shtmlSep 12 06:34
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techdirt.com | Appeals Court Says No Rights Were Violated When A Cop Shot At A 'Non-Threatening' Dog But Hit A Kid Instead | TechdirtSep 12 06:34
schestowitzRight to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness? Not here.Sep 12 06:34
schestowitz Bernd PaysanSep 12 06:34
schestowitzBernd Paysan - 2 months ago Sep 12 06:34
schestowitzPursuit of trigger-happyness. For policemen.Sep 12 06:34
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 06:34
schestowitztomgrz - 2 months ago Sep 12 06:34
schestowitzI don’t understand why police even need a loaded weapon. They should take time to consider what they are doing.Sep 12 06:34
schestowitz Bernd PaysanSep 12 06:34
schestowitzBernd Paysan - 2 months ago Sep 12 06:34
schestowitz@tomgrz In China, policemen with weapons are rare — and those who have, have special education. Same in UK.Sep 12 06:35
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:35
schestowitzTrue, and I like it that way. Less chance of accidental murder... or dangerous cops with temper.Sep 12 06:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15880309#726a9bb0afc7013709877a163ef10931Sep 12 06:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why I use #Java http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127641 #programmingSep 12 06:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Why I use Java | Tux MachinesSep 12 06:36
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:36
schestowitzlambdas, which provide the ability to declare functions and pass them as parameterSep 12 06:36
schestowitzUh - LISP!,Sep 12 06:36
schestowitzSep 12 06:36
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 9 days ago Sep 12 06:36
schestowitzone of those times you wish you could click “like” on a commentSep 12 06:36
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:36
schestowitzbetter to reply than to click something (the FB drone mentality)Sep 12 06:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15478533#01b3ede08c88013734ed047d7b62795eSep 12 06:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 3 weeks now without delving into political news like I had done since around Oct. last year; decided that it's better to spend the time composing more articles. Political news can be 'addictive'...Sep 12 06:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_f5a0ced1cc929e91485c.jpgSep 12 06:37
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:37
schestowitzSep 12 06:37
schestowitzBe carefull political can be a blackhole just like any other politicians.Sep 12 06:37
schestowitz'Sep 12 06:37
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:37
schestowitzSep 12 06:37
schestowitzBut be careful if you're not turn on to politics, politics will turn on you.Sep 12 06:38
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:38
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:38
schestowitzSep 12 06:38
schestowitzIt also means that you want to join the world of jurassic park.Sep 12 06:38
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15558037#dbe3b6a0948e013749a20218b72fdf43Sep 12 06:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 5 open-source Firefox alternatives for Linux users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126410 #gnu #linux #www #freesw Sep 12 06:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | 5 open-source Firefox alternatives for Linux users | Tux MachinesSep 12 06:38
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:38
schestowitzPalemoon, and Waterfox.Sep 12 06:38
schestowitzSep 12 06:38
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:38
schestowitzicecat, or iceweasel-uxpSep 12 06:38
schestowitzSep 12 06:38
schestowitzAdam Hunt - about a month ago Sep 12 06:38
schestowitzFirefox is an open source alternative…Sep 12 06:38
schestowitzSep 12 06:38
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:38
schestowitzFirefox is an open source alternative…Sep 12 06:38
schestowitzits no alternative to itself, for sure. but it certainly leaves people wanting one.Sep 12 06:38
schestowitzstill qupzilla for meSep 12 06:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15921439#849262e0b3120137098d7a163ef10931Sep 12 06:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ZeroPi Allwinner H3 headless mini PC now available for $13 https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/zeropi-13-mini-pc-06-09-2019/ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127781Sep 12 06:40
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.geeky-gadgets.com | ZeroPi Allwinner H3 headless mini PC now available for $13 - Geeky GadgetsSep 12 06:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny ZeroPi SBC swaps out GPIO for GbE | Tux MachinesSep 12 06:40
schestowitzThat is cool!Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzSep 12 06:41
schestowitztomgrz - 5 days ago Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzThis thing could actually be a useful web server! Of course I would not want to run much of a database, but it sure could serve-up some pages!Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzSep 12 06:41
schestowitztomgrz - 5 days ago Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzWish it had an entire GB of RAM though…Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzSep 12 06:41
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 5 days ago Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzjust got a b+ running raspbian buster. i tried devuan first, their pi 3 image didnt take on the b+ for me.Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzi swore id never buy a pi, after talking to an obnoxious rep about 8 years ago. a very nice person gave me one, it is my first sbc (im still in the market for a beaglebone.)Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzwasnt expecting it to be as simple as dd’ing the image to a microsd. that was all it took, once a viable image was found.Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzSep 12 06:41
schestowitztomgrz - 5 days ago Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzThe main problem with the entire class is a tendency to rely on the microSDs for mass storage. Not really a good idea. Also slow. Hooking up a drive through the USB port usually is not really dependable either. There are only a few of these boards with pcie ports, where you can install a SATA card. A few even have built-in SATA, notably the espressobin and the Odroid H1 and H2. I recommend the Odroid.Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzSep 12 06:41
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 5 days ago Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzsata would be a nice feature, im a fan of odroid as well. at some point id like it to be based on first-hand experience of course.Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzi dont buy a lot of things online.Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzSep 12 06:41
schestowitztomgrz - 5 days ago Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzThe H1 is $59. That’s about 1 cent per hour… ;-)Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzSep 12 06:41
schestowitztomgrz - 5 days ago Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzHours of fun!Sep 12 06:41
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15540620#7962cee0a8030137627c005056264835Sep 12 06:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ~1,000 military bases around the world; and if you dare show 🗺-wide #imperialism they call you a criminal. Merely for showing it or explaining how it works.Sep 12 06:41
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_33f13345e8937efc728a.jpgSep 12 06:41
schestowitzAssange helped Trump win the election with the help of Russian material. Therefore my pity is limited. The political agenda of right-wing libertarians like Assange is doubtful anyway.Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzSep 12 06:41
schestowitzDr. Hydro - 19 days ago Sep 12 06:41
schestowitzGo to the trouble of reading this. https://jungle.world/artikel/2019/16/aufstieg-und-fall-des-julian-assangeSep 12 06:41
schestowitzSep 12 06:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-jungle.world | jungle.world - Aufstieg und Fall des Julian AssangeSep 12 06:42
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 19 days ago Sep 12 06:42
schestowitzfrom now on im calling it doubleplusporaSep 12 06:42
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:42
schestowitzThere is no connection to RussiaSep 12 06:42
schestowitzsigh Another His Majesty’s faithful subject speaking about saving United Kingdom democracySep 12 06:43
schestowitzWake up. UK is a constitutional monarchy without constitution. The whole thing is wrong long time ago, you just noticed it recently. A bit too late, it will cost you the united in UKSep 12 06:43
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 06:43
schestowitztomgrz - 11 days ago Sep 12 06:43
schestowitzParliament would be the democracy part.Sep 12 06:43
schestowitz Binario011Sep 12 06:44
schestowitzBinario011 - 11 days ago Sep 12 06:44
schestowitzIt’s funny how Boris looks like a British Trump too.Sep 12 06:44
schestowitz Karthikeyan A KSep 12 06:44
schestowitzKarthikeyan A K - 11 days ago Sep 12 06:44
schestowitzBritish people are stupid and will realize everything late. They took 200 years to realize invasion of India was wrong.Sep 12 06:44
schestowitz Ted EwenSep 12 06:44
schestowitzTed Ewen - 11 days ago Sep 12 06:44
schestowitzMany people are stupid @Karthikeyan A K, and it knows no geographical boundaries - for example your bigotry here.Sep 12 06:44
schestowitz Karthikeyan A KSep 12 06:44
schestowitzKarthikeyan A K - 11 days ago Sep 12 06:44
schestowitzThat’s because I want to be come a British citizen.Sep 12 06:44
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 06:44
schestowitztomgrz - 11 days ago Sep 12 06:44
schestowitzStupidity knows no bounds - just think of the math!Sep 12 06:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15864111#77aa1d30ae58013767063a6137633966Sep 12 06:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #uk #brexit #democracy #coup #stopbrexit Sep 12 06:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_5c9550e2501cf1f3b22f.pngSep 12 06:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_15e50233a829671c6c0d.pngSep 12 06:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15707026#6bdd7850a24a0137b1a10cc47a07853ccom/posts/15864111#77aa1d30ae58013767063a6137633966Sep 12 06:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ubuntu and #linux being #googlebombed by #vista10 #proprietarysoftware marketing https://www.how2shout.com/how-to/install-nginx-php-mysql-wsl-windows-10.html http://techrights.org/2019/07/23/linux-brand-dilution/Sep 12 06:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.how2shout.com | How to install Nginx + php + MySQL on WSL Windows 10 | H2S MediaSep 12 06:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Googlebombing ‘Linux’ With Microsoft Public Relations | TechrightsSep 12 06:45
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:45
schestowitzthere really should be a list of websites getting infiltrated.Sep 12 06:45
schestowitz Alessandro EbersolSep 12 06:45
schestowitzAlessandro Ebersol - 27 days ago Sep 12 06:45
schestowitzWhat a kludge…Sep 12 06:45
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:45
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 27 days ago Sep 12 06:45
schestowitzWhat a kludge…Sep 12 06:45
schestowitzdo you mean windows 10, wsl, or this application of them?Sep 12 06:45
schestowitz(just kidding)Sep 12 06:45
schestowitz Alessandro EbersolSep 12 06:45
schestowitzAlessandro Ebersol - 27 days ago Sep 12 06:45
schestowitzI mean: one, going all the trouble, to setup a VM, with buguntu, and run it on top of winblow$ 10.Sep 12 06:45
schestowitzIt’s easier to setup a buguntu on real hardware and virtualize winblow$, for RMS’s sake…Sep 12 06:45
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:45
schestowitzWhen Vista10 is b0rked by Windows Update there goes your server :-)Sep 12 06:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15661234#3acba6409e5101373214005056264835Sep 12 06:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #systemd Sep 12 06:46
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_e80008a55e0495a492cf.gifSep 12 06:46
schestowitzThis is one of my favorites against the monster that is systemd hahahaSep 12 06:46
schestowitzSep 12 06:46
schestowitzRudolf Goldman - about a month ago Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzhave no idea of anything but an opinion.Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzwhere exactly has systemd eaten “pam”? etc.Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzSep 12 06:46
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzhave no idea of anything but an opinion.Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzmaybe you want to accuse peoples facts of being just opinions without using google. thats your own problem. after 5 fucking years of hearing this bullshit whenever people make a valid critique, its getting pretty fucking old to hear this kind of stupid denial. i consider it trolling.Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzhttps://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/372431/what-is-the-difference-between-pam-unix-and-pam-systemdSep 12 06:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-unix.stackexchange.com | systemd - What is the difference between pam_unix and pam_systemd? - Unix & Linux Stack ExchangeSep 12 06:46
schestowitzSep 12 06:46
schestowitzRudolf Goldman - about a month ago Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzthen please tell me where systemd forbids “pam_unix”.Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzSep 12 06:46
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzthen please tell me where systemd forbids “pam_unix”.Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzright after you tell us what the fuck that has to do with the picture.Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzits an illustration, not a thesis. stop being such a fucking troll. worthless european fake anarchists sucking off corporate monopolies wherever they can get an opportunity…Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzSep 12 06:46
schestowitzRudolf Goldman - about a month ago Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzwhen systemd not forbids pam_unix etc than what the problem? than you can you use pam_systemd when you want!Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzits an illustration,Sep 12 06:46
schestowitzoh, its an illustration. it doesn’t say nothing. are you fucking kidding me?Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzworthless european fake anarchists sucking off corporate monopolies wherever they can get get an opportunity…Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzyou are a funny extremist :-DSep 12 06:47
schestowitzSep 12 06:47
schestowitzRudolf Goldman - about a month ago Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzby the way…why do you post so manny postings and delete it after a second again? mental problems?Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzSep 12 06:47
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzwhy do you post so manny postings and delete it after a second again?Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzbecause theres no edit feature, dipshit.Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzSep 12 06:47
schestowitzRudolf Goldman - about a month ago Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzworthless european fake anarchists sucking off corporate monopolies wherever they can get get an opportunity…Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzone question, du you have an argument/source for this? or was it a fit of rage?Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzSep 12 06:47
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzyou are a funny extremist :-DSep 12 06:47
schestowitzah, well there you go-- you dont even know what a fucking extremist is, but you see a hand puppet and start demanding answers to obvious questions a 12-year-old could figure out for himself with google.Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzgo smack yourself in the face with a boot until youre smarter.Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzSep 12 06:47
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzdu you have an argument/souSep 12 06:47
schestowitzno more questions until you grow an iq or live in a real country. have fun in parentsbasementland or whatever your call your domain.Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzSep 12 06:47
schestowitzRudolf Goldman - about a month ago Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzyou see a hand puppet and start demanding answers to obvious questions a 12-year-old could figure out for himself with google.Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzgo smack yourself in the face with a boot until youre smarter.Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzno more questions until you grow an iq or live in a real country. have fun in parentsbasementland or whatever your call your domain.Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzyou are really tough. dont know what a “real country” is, but it sounds like disneyland or something… so, stay so tough you are here it is really funn… eeehhmmm impulsively ;-)Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzSep 12 06:47
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzlaugh all you want, little kraut wanker. youll never be a man while youre wasting peoples time with dishonest questions.Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzSep 12 06:47
schestowitzRudolf Goldman - about a month ago Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzlaugh all you want, little kraut wanker.Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzyes, i hate germany too.Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzyoull never be a man while youre wasting peoples time with dishonest questions.Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzhow do you know i want to be a man? or are you homo- or transphobic?Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzSep 12 06:47
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:47
schestowitzhow do you know i want to be a man?Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzmost people that call themselves “rudolf” do. lucky guess.Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzhow do you know i want to be a man? or are you homo- or transphobic?Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzoh, okay. no, i dont hate trans people. just people on the left who are dishonest. you can be any gender you want, i dislike you for your character, not your gender.Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzSep 12 06:48
schestowitzRudolf Goldman - about a month ago Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzmost people that call themselves “rudolf” do. lucky guess.Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzah and when the most … i understand.Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzjust people on the left who are dishonest. you can be any gender you want, i dislike you for your character, not your gender.Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzi am dishonest? can you quote this and put an argument to this issue? i am sure you can.Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzSep 12 06:48
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzcan you quote this and put an argument to this issue? i am sure you can.Sep 12 06:48
schestowitznot interested.Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzSep 12 06:48
schestowitzRudolf Goldman - about a month ago Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzok, tht is enough for me :-DSep 12 06:48
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:48
schestowitz"https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15580026#b098783096900137e59e0cc47a07853cSep 12 06:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #python -- like #php -- not sufficiently strong on backward compat. But there are workarounds that are improving. https://cecinestpasunefromage.wordpress.com/2019/07/31/two-numpys-diverged-in-a-wood/ #programmingSep 12 06:48
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> cecinestpasunefromage.wordpress.com | Two numpys diverged in a wood. . . | Ceci n'est pas une fromageSep 12 06:48
schestowitzHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASep 12 06:48
schestowitz#perfectSep 12 06:48
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:48
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzyou see, there was this bullshit initiative to try to hijack coders and force them to switch, (jan 1 2020 is around the corner) and theyve got this website where maintainers of key 3rd party libraries (i believe numpy was one of them) all promise to ditch python 2 and focus exclusively on new shit…Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzbut you cant promise on behalf of the developers that leave your project, eh?Sep 12 06:48
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comSep 12 06:48
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzits really fucking stupid, when lots of people still prefer python 2 (we arent talking about holdouts anymore-- we are talking about people including those who are completely uninterested in the the new python) to try to force them to do anything. theyre not nearly as bad about it, but its shades of systemd.Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzi barely code in python anymore. its my favourite language. when i code, it gets compiled to python-- and next year it will run using pypy instead.Sep 12 06:48
schestowitz"Sep 12 06:48
schestowitzHow true...Sep 12 06:48
schestowitz> Yet Saudi money was fine for the MIT Media Lab?Sep 12 06:55
schestowitzI saw that said...Sep 12 06:55
schestowitz> I've combined the manual and automated links into a single file.  I'llSep 12 06:55
schestowitz> have to work out a work flow for that.Sep 12 06:55
schestowitzThanks!Sep 12 06:55
schestowitz>>> Yet Saudi money was fine for the MIT Media Lab?Sep 12 07:13
schestowitz>> I saw that said...Sep 12 07:13
schestowitz> Saudi money is all over the place and no questions are raised.  ThoughSep 12 07:14
schestowitz> they well should be, especially after the most recent murders.Sep 12 07:14
schestowitzThere's a similar issue with, e.g. Chinese money, Russia money, ultra-zionist money and so on.Sep 12 07:14
schestowitzThe underlying issue is this system that garbours bribery; of press, academia, government... Sep 12 07:14
schestowitz>>> I've combined the manual and automated links into a single file.  I'llSep 12 07:14
schestowitz>>> have to work out a work flow for that.Sep 12 07:14
schestowitz>> Thanks!Sep 12 07:14
schestowitz> No problem.Sep 12 07:14
schestowitzI now have confidence nothing goes missing from the cron job, or almost nothing.Sep 12 07:14
schestowitzYesterday I refactored my RSS feeds accordingly.Sep 12 07:14
schestowitzI am working right now and again tomorrow, so not many articles from me...Sep 12 07:14
schestowitz>>>>> Yet Saudi money was fine for the MIT Media Lab?Sep 12 07:39
schestowitz>>>> I saw that said...Sep 12 07:39
schestowitz>>> Saudi money is all over the place and no questions are raised.  ThoughSep 12 07:39
schestowitz>>> they well should be, especially after the most recent murders.Sep 12 07:39
schestowitz>> There's a similar issue with, e.g. Chinese money, Russia money,Sep 12 07:39
schestowitz>> ultra-zionist money and so on.Sep 12 07:39
schestowitz> Yes, China is tearing through Europe with its money and buyingSep 12 07:39
schestowitz> acceptance of its politics as a result.  Africa gets it worse, China isSep 12 07:39
schestowitz> making enormous investments in infrastructure, except that it's not.  ItSep 12 07:39
schestowitz> is making the African countries take out massive loans with thatSep 12 07:39
schestowitz> infrastructure as collateral so they will end up in Chinese handsSep 12 07:39
schestowitz> quickly if they default.  If they do not default, everything includingSep 12 07:39
schestowitz> the broadcast material is oriented towards China so it will be theirsSep 12 07:39
schestowitz> withing two generations any way.Sep 12 07:39
schestowitz> Sep 12 07:39
schestowitz> The Saudi money is (or was) different.  It was just one family whichSep 12 07:39
schestowitz> except for ties to Bush and others was rather weak.  It has, however,Sep 12 07:39
schestowitz> been a profoundly damaging influence on the world both through theSep 12 07:39
schestowitz> environmental damage caused by the acquisition of the petrodollar and bySep 12 07:39
schestowitz> the cultural and societal damage caused by targeted infusions of thatSep 12 07:39
schestowitz> same petrodollar back into EU / US.Sep 12 07:39
schestowitz> Sep 12 07:39
schestowitz>> The underlying issue is this system that garbours bribery; of press,Sep 12 07:39
schestowitz>> academia, government...Sep 12 07:39
schestowitz> Yes, there's too much to say on that.  We are in an era of yellowSep 12 07:39
schestowitz> journalism and whatever the corresponding academic equivalent is.Sep 12 07:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15643768#6b3a6bd09d600137c9b40218b72fdf43Sep 12 08:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Should we archive the whole of #linuxjournal in case PIA takes it offline?Sep 12 08:29
schestowitz"Sep 12 08:29
schestowitzhow good is the Internet Archive’s copy?Sep 12 08:29
schestowitzSep 12 08:29
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 08:29
schestowitzShould we archive the whole of #linuxjournalSep 12 08:29
schestowitzyesSep 12 08:29
schestowitzhow good is the Internet Archive’s copy?Sep 12 08:29
schestowitznot as good as copies in the hands of two different parties.Sep 12 08:29
schestowitzSep 12 08:29
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about a month ago Sep 12 08:29
schestowitz@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) i think a private archive (offline) would be a good idea. i think a public archive would likely be a bad idea at this time.Sep 12 08:29
schestowitza public archive of opensource.org articles (free culture licensed for reuse) would be a great idea. the permission is explicitly granted by the license.Sep 12 08:29
schestowitz"Sep 12 08:29
schestowitz.com, not .org I guessSep 12 08:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15240749#c6e40be08dd501373523047d7b62795eSep 12 08:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So-called 'phones' called after the IQ level of 'consumers' who pay this much for 'smart' (well, #surveillance really) plastic with radiation https://fossbytes.com/best-android-one-phones/Sep 12 08:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> fossbytes.com | 6 Best Android One Phones Worth Your Money In 2019Sep 12 08:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15240749#c6e40be08dd501373523047d7b62795eSep 12 08:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15240749#c6e40be08dd501373523047d7b62795eSep 12 08:38
schestowitz"Sep 12 08:38
schestowitzSep 12 08:38
schestowitzWow nobody caresSep 12 08:38
schestowitz"Sep 12 08:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15158414#a60f5f906e910137ec367a163ef10931Sep 12 08:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So-called 'phones' and cars are little more than #surveillance devices from the state's POV https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190608/10443842355/obtained-records-show-ice-is-using-alpr-databases-to-reconstruct-targets-lives.shtmlSep 12 08:39
schestowitz"Sep 12 08:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techdirt.com | Obtained Records Show ICE Is Using ALPR Databases To Reconstruct Targets' Lives | TechdirtSep 12 08:39
schestowitzSep 12 08:39
schestowitzICE has become an unlimited internal national police. They must be disbanded.Sep 12 08:39
schestowitz"Sep 12 08:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15187280#196b3f9070eb0137a1ea005056264835Sep 12 08:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So-called 'phones' are often little more than #listeningdevices and the standards are being lowered; it's not about catching terrorists but enforcing #copyright law; what next? https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190612/14250242382/la-liga-fined-250k-euros-using-mobile-app-to-try-to-catch-3rd-party-pirates.shtmlSep 12 08:39
schestowitz"We should no more talk about privacy.."Sep 12 08:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techdirt.com | La Liga Fined 250K Euros For Using Mobile App To Try To Catch 3rd Party Pirates | TechdirtSep 12 08:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15240749#c6e40be08dd501373523047d7b62795eSep 12 08:39
schestowitz"Sep 12 08:39
schestowitzApplications are software.Sep 12 08:39
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 08:39
schestowitztomgrz - 2 months ago Sep 12 08:39
schestowitz^Precisely.Sep 12 08:39
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 08:39
schestowitztomgrz - 2 months ago Sep 12 08:39
schestowitzI do not install untrustworthy software on my device. It is very sad that so many people do.Sep 12 08:39
schestowitz"Sep 12 08:39
schestowitzSometime the OS itself (sometimes cannot be removed) is Sep 12 08:39
schestowitzApplications are software.Sep 12 08:39
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 08:39
schestowitztomgrz - 2 months ago Sep 12 08:39
schestowitz^Precisely.Sep 12 08:40
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 08:40
schestowitztomgrz - 2 months ago Sep 12 08:40
schestowitzI do not install untrustworthy software on my device. It is very sad that so many people do.Sep 12 08:40
schestowitzSometime the OS itself (sometimes cannot be removed) is Sep 12 08:40
schestowitzApplications are software.Sep 12 08:40
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 08:40
schestowitztomgrz - 2 months ago Sep 12 08:40
schestowitz^Precisely.Sep 12 08:40
schestowitz tomgrzSep 12 08:40
schestowitztomgrz - 2 months ago Sep 12 08:40
schestowitzI do not install untrustworthy software on my device. It is very sad that so many people do.Sep 12 08:40
schestowitzSometime the OS itself (sometimes cannot be removed) is  untrustworthySep 12 08:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15544886#fd7988a0934301377f432a0000053625Sep 12 08:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Still no #war with #iran (except fiscal/financial) It's collective punishment, punishing the regime's 'hostages'Sep 12 08:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_d3604958361c2646652f.jpgSep 12 08:40
schestowitz"Sep 12 08:41
schestowitzA “regime” elected by a popular majority of it’s “hostages” unlike the USA.Sep 12 08:41
schestowitz DavidSep 12 08:41
schestowitzDavid - 2 months ago Sep 12 08:41
schestowitzHow can a government have moral legitimacy? We’re all hostages.Sep 12 08:41
schestowitz“What about democracy?” Democracy is the philosophy that says the majority of my neighbors have to right to force me to do what they want simply because they outnumber me. In other words, might makes right.Sep 12 08:41
schestowitz“What about leaders who are ordained by God?” God who?Sep 12 08:41
schestowitzThe cartoon gets it right, except, perhaps for the “false flag.” On that, I reserve judgement until I have facts.Sep 12 08:41
schestowitz TrocatintasSep 12 08:41
schestowitzTrocatintas - 2 months ago Sep 12 08:41
schestowitzYou have the Japanese sailors account about what hit their ship and it differs substantially from the account of the Imperial Bullies navy which even managed to get “video evidence” showing something different than what actually happened. Sounds a lot like a false flag.Sep 12 08:41
schestowitz TrocatintasSep 12 08:41
schestowitzTrocatintas - 2 months ago Sep 12 08:41
schestowitzUnless Russian hackers managed to change the Japanese testimony too. :DSep 12 08:41
schestowitz"Sep 12 08:41
schestowitzBolton is out now!Sep 12 08:41
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15213827#e814f43073bb0137ad7c52540039b762Sep 12 08:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Still seeing some more blog/media coverage for new major release of #openmandriva (I was a #mandriva user a decade ago) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124936#comment-20718Sep 12 08:42
schestowitz"Systemd…grumble…grumble"Sep 12 08:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | The best, until OpenMandriva does better: released OMLx 4.0 | Tux MachinesSep 12 08:42
schestowitzHard to dodge it these daysSep 12 08:42
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15473307#851dc8008c290137e5a60cc47a07853cSep 12 08:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Sunbed and spray-painting OKSep 12 08:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_c9fee64b7a6ed3769471.jpegSep 12 08:42
schestowitz"of course, ibm developed a technology that goes hand in hand with this chart using nypd surveillance data."Sep 12 08:42
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/OblongOrange/status/1172137938521612288Sep 12 14:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@OblongOrange: Beware of the openwashers. https://t.co/fz7LkHI2AESep 12 14:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Web Site Called Linux.com Still Exists Only or Mostly to Promote Anti-Linux Firms and Openwashing | TechrightsSep 12 14:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/OblongOrange/status/1172141599821836289Sep 12 14:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@OblongOrange: Yeah, gonna have to stop sharing these articles, they can't even provide httpsSep 12 14:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/OblongOrange/status/1172141793330249730Sep 12 14:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@OblongOrange: I mean, if I can https my own shitty website then there is no reason anyone else can't.Sep 12 14:56
schestowitz> Hi again,Sep 12 15:19
schestowitz> Sep 12 15:19
schestowitz> Here's the reason for mailing you:[...]Sep 12 15:19
schestowitzHi,Sep 12 15:19
schestowitzI have not done two parts on this (over the weekend).Sep 12 15:19
schestowitzAs a third part I'd like to post, as guest post, your reply, with the cited (only in your text) documents included. Ryder is already aware of it (I pinged him). It would be good for all EPO staff to become familiar with this trick.Sep 12 15:19
schestowitzThe headline would be something like, "[YOU] Reply to Techrights' Interpretation of Koch v EPO".Sep 12 15:19
schestowitz>If< you grant me permission. Sep 12 15:19
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/d37ava/linuxorg_is_back_as_an_antilinux_news_site/Sep 12 15:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Linux.org is back as an anti-linux news site : linuxmasterraceSep 12 15:48
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/09/whats-in-name-general-court-rules.html?showComment=1568193129675#c832042238218978666Sep 12 15:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | What's in a name? General Court rules conceptual comparison of names normally not possible - The IPKatSep 12 15:55
schestowitz"The AG's opinion in Sky/Skykick has been delayed until 16 October"Sep 12 15:55
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/09/ag-szpunar-advises-cjeu-to-rule-that.html?showComment=1568207647763#c7333479619508008657Sep 12 15:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | AG Szpunar advises CJEU to rule that internet downloads of ebooks are covered by right of communication to the public, not distribution (so, no, there is no digital exhaustion under InfoSoc Directive) - The IPKatSep 12 15:56
schestowitz"Sep 12 15:56
schestowitzCopyright law is, at its heart, quite simple. Don't copy or redistribute work that you don't have the right to copy or redistribute. The complex and arcane issues surrounding it usually touch on the grey fringes of copyright law. The cases which are black and white are unlikely to get to trial and even if they do, they are unlikely to be reported on in much depth as they aren't interesting. Sep 12 15:56
schestowitzThe everyday person on the Internet should know very well whether they're doing something wrong or not - if you post a video to YouTube using music by a famous artist, you're copying that artist's music. Much as many people may not want to hear that it is very straightforward.Sep 12 15:56
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/09/has-eu-lost-its-way-on-gene-editing.html?showComment=1568231399559#c1766734896112427938Sep 12 15:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Has the EU lost its way on gene-editing? - The IPKatSep 12 15:57
schestowitz"Sep 12 15:57
schestowitzThat the CRISPR Scientist defends its position and wants to promote the technique is understandable. But not everything which is technically feasible should be done. Sep 12 15:57
schestowitzLook at the burden the present generation imposes on future ones when it comes to dealing with waste from atomic power plants. Energy generation in atomic plants might be CO2 neutral as such, but what about the waste? It is there for many many more generations!Sep 12 15:57
schestowitzAs long as it is not demonstrated up to the hilt that using this gene editing tool is safe, any gene modification is to be equated with that obtained for GMO and has to be characterised as such. Sep 12 15:57
schestowitzFrom what one reads, even here by the CRIPR scientist himself, this is far of being the case, and the EU is right in not have wool pulled over its eyes. Sep 12 15:57
schestowitzThat nature allows to obtain gene modifications by selection and or breeding is one thing. Simply wanting to accelerate the process by some magical tool is not correct as long as it is not possible to foresee the long term consequences of it. Sep 12 15:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/1171900930012246018Sep 12 16:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @TastyNutsHmm @schestowitz @wikileaks Good question! @UNHumanRightsSep 12 16:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MAurelius161180/status/1172011441769066496Sep 12 16:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MAurelius161180: @schestowitz @wikileaks Not beside the point sir, since the tweet of yours which I was responding to was the one wh… https://t.co/On3w7M74ZqSep 12 16:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MAurelius161180: @schestowitz @wikileaks Not beside the point sir, since the tweet of yours which I was responding to was the one wh… https://t.co/On3w7M74ZqSep 12 16:57
schestowitz"Not beside the point sir, since the tweet of yours which I was responding to was the one where you specifically mentioned "automatic rifles," which are machine guns, as opposed to semi-automatic rifles, which are not. Try again."Sep 12 16:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/1172020212280913921Sep 12 16:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jsalsman: @dearsarah @_evhan55 @xeni @kimmasters @jkbjournalist @VickyPJWard @evgenymorozov @om @RuMboya @ananny @ekp @grok_… https://t.co/kJpxXbBLmPSep 12 16:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jsalsman: @dearsarah @_evhan55 @xeni @kimmasters @jkbjournalist @VickyPJWard @evgenymorozov @om @RuMboya @ananny @ekp @grok_… https://t.co/kJpxXbBLmPSep 12 16:58
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sheilabenson/status/1172051793515286529Sep 12 16:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sheilabenson: @schestowitz No mention of Britain's share of the spoils ...Sep 12 16:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/alcipone/status/1172059268192841730Sep 12 16:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@alcipone: @schestowitz No value for value model promotion.Sep 12 16:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/alcipone/status/1172059381271322626Sep 12 16:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@alcipone: @schestowitz Name them to help them ( is also a form of value for value )Sep 12 16:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1172082909710356480Sep 12 16:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Turn off DoH, Firefox. Now... https://t.co/hpdU4P2SULSep 12 16:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> ungleich.ch | ungleich blog - Turn off DoH, Firefox. Now.Sep 12 16:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1172083320005414913Sep 12 16:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz The MIT Media Lab is all tied into the right-wing cyberlibertarians at Wired magazine. Did you ever se… https://t.co/xAbH9M3l8ASep 12 16:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz The MIT Media Lab is all tied into the right-wing cyberlibertarians at Wired magazine. Did you ever se… https://t.co/xAbH9M3l8ASep 12 16:59
schestowitz"The MIT Media Lab is all tied into the right-wing cyberlibertarians at Wired magazine. Did you ever see the 1990s print editions of Wired on the UK newsstands? The ads were all for stuff like luxury watches and clothes. They interviewed Newt Gingrich. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_(magazine)"Sep 12 16:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Wired (magazine) - WikipediaSep 12 16:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1172083931786563584Sep 12 16:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz "Associate publisher Kathleen Lyman… introduced revolutionary ad campaigns by a diverse group of indus… https://t.co/VfQ7a229ERSep 12 16:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz "Associate publisher Kathleen Lyman… introduced revolutionary ad campaigns by a diverse group of indus… https://t.co/VfQ7a229ERSep 12 16:59
schestowitz"Sep 12 16:59
schestowitz"Associate publisher Kathleen Lyman… introduced revolutionary ad campaigns by a diverse group of industry leaders—such as Apple Computer, Intel, Sony, Calvin Klein, and Absolut—to the readers of the first technology publication with a lifestyle slant."Sep 12 16:59
schestowitzMultimedia PCs & vodka.Sep 12 16:59
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/johnbarbirolli/status/1172105165563842560Sep 12 17:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@johnbarbirolli: @schestowitz Thank you.Sep 12 17:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1172142702982565891Sep 12 17:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: china's cultural genocide of tibetans continues apace... https://t.co/JM5AnjPvZsSep 12 17:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #China : Ban on #Tibet #Religious Activity Toughened https://t.co/yn7EATLN2w #cn #prcSep 12 17:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/auweia1/status/1172157614119014400Sep 12 17:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@auweia1: @schestowitz ok, if you want to use WW2 propaganda words such as 'internment camps', how about the system that is b… https://t.co/BQuzVohl3CSep 12 17:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@auweia1: @schestowitz ok, if you want to use WW2 propaganda words such as 'internment camps', how about the system that is b… https://t.co/BQuzVohl3CSep 12 17:04
schestowitz"Sep 12 17:04
schestowitzok, if you want to use WW2 propaganda words such as 'internment camps', how about the system that is being used now in 2019 described as 'death camps'Sep 12 17:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gregorylent/status/1172163045386145793Sep 12 17:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gregorylent: @schestowitz guns pointed at industrialists?Sep 12 17:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1172225710565613568Sep 12 20:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: that's good https://t.co/ZSztERs5C7Sep 12 20:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Huawei selling #MateBook laptops with #Linux preinstalled https://t.co/aYRSGkVHuLSep 12 20:47

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