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psydruidThis entire comment thread is ridiculous with a "Microsoft Spatial Text Engineer" arguing against WINE and in favour of native GNU/Linux games and using Windows to run native Windows games and applicationsSep 12 03:05
psydruidhttps://tweakers.net/downloads/61636/wine-717.html?sort=time-asc&orderBy=time&order=asc&niv=-1&mode=flat#reactiesSep 12 03:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tweakers.net | Software-update: Wine 7.17 - Computer - Downloads - TweakersSep 12 03:05
psydruidIs this one of their new tactics to slag off the competition?Sep 12 03:06
psydruidBeing a concern troll now to Steam OS is making Windows obsolete for gaming as wellSep 12 03:07
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psydruidthat*Sep 12 04:27
schestowitz-TR2yeah, I ignore this siteSep 12 05:57
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Techrights-secotr: that's not a long track record though, and if he has pissed off marius ...Sep 12 07:08
Techrights-secotr: where are the old articles?Sep 12 07:08
psydruidI wonder if this is a tactic employed by Microsoft across more media now that Steam is getting more tractionSep 12 07:19
psydruidI haven't seen them attacking Wine/Proton like this beforeSep 12 07:20
psydruidCalling it "dubious", "possibly illegal", " technically inferior and obsolete"Sep 12 07:21
psydruidThis Microshit company is getting really nasty now that its demise is imminentSep 12 07:21
schestowitz-TR2hmmmSep 12 07:24
schestowitz-TR2weirdSep 12 07:24
schestowitz-TR2remember in 2007 novell released a document in easterSep 12 07:24
schestowitz-TR2about what it it had agreed with microsoft... regarding patents and wineSep 12 07:25
schestowitz-TR2I can find articles  we wrote 15 years agoSep 12 07:25
psydruidThey're also spinning it as being too cheap to want to buy a Windows licence, even though previous owners and I already paid for those on all of my laptopsSep 12 07:29
psydruidI just decide not to use isSep 12 07:29
psydruidRarely has a company been this deludedSep 12 07:29
psydruidIt's like all of those things from the 2000s are coming back nowSep 12 07:31
psydruidIn reality the issues never went away, they were just hidden under the surfaceSep 12 07:31
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Techrights-secI think it had been the sudo configuration which was the only thing blocking Sep 12 09:11
Techrights-secthe gemini page.  Sep 12 09:11
Techrights-secYesSep 12 09:11
schestowitz-TR2prior to this the capsule updated OK for a monthSep 12 09:11
schestowitz-TR2but anyway, now we have a clone of the system with those settings intactSep 12 09:11
schestowitz-TR2I don't want ipfs to run only from one place because when things go south, it's already "too late"Sep 12 09:11
Techrights-secHowever, I don't know anything about IPFS and don't really have the Sep 12 09:12
Techrights-secbackground or interest for it.  That said, there ought to be a way to Sep 12 09:12
Techrights-secnice the daemon down either with nice or ionice or both.Sep 12 09:12
schestowitz-TR2thw www is going down the toiletSep 12 09:13
schestowitz-TR2see today's IRC logsSep 12 09:13
schestowitz-TR2and people who don't seem to grap what's happeningSep 12 09:13
schestowitz-TR2*graspSep 12 09:13
schestowitz-TR2"just one more site to block"Sep 12 09:13
schestowitz-TR2"last... promise"Sep 12 09:13
Techrights-secYepSep 12 09:13
Techrights-secJust one more and it will all be perfect.Sep 12 09:13
schestowitz-TR2also conflating sites with random people who post thereSep 12 09:13
schestowitz-TR2and then insinuating that dfc posting shit makes the site liableSep 12 09:13
Techrights-secThat conflation is getting pushed at the political level and M$ seems to beSep 12 09:30
Techrights-secmaking progress against the Biden administration in turning them against 47 U.S. Code § 230Sep 12 09:30
Techrights-secIf "230" is removed, then M$ will have a free hand to censor as much as theySep 12 09:30
Techrights-secwant without hinderance.  Same for Facebook and the other malefeasants.  Sep 12 09:30
Techrights-secSee Cory's notes from the other day:Sep 12 09:30
Techrights-sechttps://pluralistic.net/2022/09/10/big-data/#230-quagmireSep 12 09:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 10 Sep 2022 American healthcare did a fuckery, the White House has a plan for Big Tech big-data – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory DoctorowSep 12 09:30
Techrights-secs/malefeasants/malfeasants/Sep 12 09:30
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schestowitz-TR2:-)Sep 12 10:17
schestowitz-TR2any gemini capsule added, and bigger is better, helps momentumSep 12 10:17
schestowitz-TR2"Connection refused"Sep 12 10:18
Techrights-secWhich service should new Gemini capsules be added to?Sep 12 10:21
schestowitzbottom of gemini://geminispace.info/Sep 12 10:23
schestowitz-TR2not lupaSep 12 10:24
schestowitz-TR2lupa takes the list from the crawling and other DBsSep 12 10:24
schestowitz-TR2bottom of gemini://geminispace.info/Sep 12 10:24
schestowitz-TR2ota (moz)Sep 12 10:39
Techrights-secThanksSep 12 10:39
Techrights-secackSep 12 10:39
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schestowitz-TR2I think I shall take a 'break' from statcounter for a bitSep 12 11:34
schestowitz-TR2I think we made some key pointsSep 12 11:34
schestowitz-TR2and same for netcraftSep 12 11:34
schestowitz-TR2until there is some very profound changeSep 12 11:34
schestowitz-TR2draftSep 12 11:34
schestowitz-TR2left summary empty, as you might suggest point to emphasiseSep 12 11:34
Techrights-secThere will be an opportunity to return to the topic in a few months anyway.Sep 12 11:35
Techrights-secIt's not just that the market is readjusting it is that people are seeing it.Sep 12 11:35
Techrights-secOr m$ is unable to hide their decline much any more.Sep 12 11:35
schestowitz-TR2psydruid made some key points today, re wine and tweakersSep 12 11:35
schestowitz-TR2seems the trolling or face-saving BS/PR is changingSep 12 11:35
Techrights-sechttps://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/11512/cyber-crime/turkey-another-story-on-use-of-fraudulent-digital-certificates.htmlSep 12 11:41
Techrights-sechttps://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/01/turkish-government-agency-spoofed-google-certificate-accidentally/Sep 12 11:41
Techrights-sec^ Gallagher was ok for a whileSep 12 11:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-securityaffairs.co | Turkey - Another story on use of fraudulent digital certificates - Security AffairsSecurity AffairsSep 12 11:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-arstechnica.com | Turkish government agency spoofed Google certificate “accidentally” | Ars TechnicaSep 12 11:41
schestowitz-TR2I wil add the refs, thanks Sep 12 11:42
schestowitz-TR2conde nast fired all their linux-friendly authorsSep 12 11:42
schestowitz-TR2all of themSep 12 11:42
schestowitz-TR2same as in softpediaSep 12 11:42
schestowitz-TR2may be good for traffic, but not for "SPONSORED"Sep 12 11:42
schestowitz-TR2nor for the molesSep 12 11:42
Techrights-secackSep 12 12:25
Techrights-secpossibly this one tooSep 12 12:25
Techrights-sechttps://kipdf.com/the-fundamentally-broken-browser-model_5aaea3331723dd636fbbfe24.htmlSep 12 12:25
Techrights-secas it covers the more abstract problemSep 12 12:25
Techrights-secthe above were just concrete examplesSep 12 12:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Fundamentally Broken Browser Model - KIPDF.COMSep 12 12:25
schestowitz-TR2I hope I caught all the typosSep 12 12:25
schestowitz-TR2adding a screenshotSep 12 12:25
schestowitz-TR2I will do a sort of meme now with the second link ;-)Sep 12 12:25
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schestowitz-TR2draftSep 12 12:49
schestowitz-TR2doneSep 12 12:49
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Techrights-secIgnore the kipdf link, here is the correct one: Sep 12 13:04
Techrights-sechttps://www.grc.com/sn/sn-217.htmSep 12 13:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.grc.com | Security Now! Transcript of Episode #217Sep 12 13:04
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schestowitz-TR2i am proud to have added a live stream of lpc to tux machinesSep 12 13:10
schestowitz-TR2so people can view it w/o youtube by just entering the pageSep 12 13:10
schestowitz-TR2latest pageSep 12 13:10
Techrights-secLPC ?Sep 12 13:10
schestowitz-TR2I've added the direct link to the episode 'security now'Sep 12 13:10
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schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> It does not say how Linux systems actually get infected, so Bruce Schneier just helps Microsoft-serving attention-shifting FUD https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/new-linux-cryptomining-malware.htmlSep 12 16:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-New Linux Cryptomining Malware - Schneier on SecuritySep 12 16:23
Techrights-secack Sep 12 16:35
schestowitz-TR2blame slashdotSep 12 16:36
schestowitz-TR2/. editor goes with this narrativeSep 12 16:36
schestowitz-TR2then security 'guru' relays itSep 12 16:36
schestowitz-TR2along with dan goodin and other microsoftersSep 12 16:36
schestowitz-TR2I smell cookies...Sep 12 16:46
schestowitz-TR2did you write a convertor or is it fone manually?Sep 12 16:46
schestowitz-TR2/*doneSep 12 16:46
Techrights-secack Sep 12 17:02
Techrights-secIt's done manually.  So a couple of them are a little out of sync as I've Sep 12 17:02
Techrights-secmade some changes to the HTML first.Sep 12 17:02
Techrights-secThe bilberry liqueur can be made with blueberries instead and, if started now,Sep 12 17:02
Techrights-secwould be ready for Christmas. :)Sep 12 17:02
schestowitz-TR2I've just read a few; I realise how out of touch I am w/ cookingSep 12 17:03
schestowitz-TR2but rianne makes up for itSep 12 17:03
schestowitz-TR2buying premade (prepared) food is very expensiveSep 12 17:03
schestowitz-TR2very, very expensiveSep 12 17:03
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Techrights-secackSep 12 18:37
Techrights-secThe sort order in TM's 'Recent Posts' should appear more sensible now.Sep 12 18:37
Techrights-secThe sorting had gotten a little complicated internally and has been simplifiedSep 12 18:37
Techrights-secnow.Sep 12 18:37
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schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> He repeats what the editor of Slashdot pinned there. The Microsofters then repeat him https://securityboulevard.com/2022/09/new-linux-cryptomining-malware/ t does not say how Linux systems actually get infected, so Bruce Schneier just helps Microsoft-serving attention-shifting FUD.Sep 12 19:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-securityboulevard.com | New Linux Cryptomining Malware - Security BoulevardSep 12 19:21
schestowitz-TR2eating without preparation is not fun and not healthySep 12 19:22
schestowitz-TR2thanks, yes, the order mattersSep 12 19:22
schestowitz-TR2i think using some fuzzy logic we can derive 'categories'Sep 12 19:22
schestowitz-TR2atm no archives or site searchSep 12 19:22
Techrights-secnp.  I know it had been bothering people,Sep 12 19:23
Techrights-secSearch can probably be added, though likely with some minor tweaks needed to Sep 12 19:23
Techrights-secthe database first.  Sep 12 19:23
schestowitz-TR2 He repeats what the editor of Slashdot pinned there. The Microsofters then repeat him https://securityboulevard.com/2022/09/new-linux-cryptomining-malware/Sep 12 19:33
schestowitz-TR2aka circlejerkSep 12 19:33
Techrights-secYep, a FUD cycle.Sep 12 19:33
Techrights-secWhat owns Slashdot at the moment?Sep 12 19:33
Techrights-secI find only stuff from a few years ago,Sep 12 19:35
Techrights-sechttps://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/slashdot-media-to-merge-with-bizx-llc-creating-a-market-leader-in-b2b-software-technology-and-data-1028780285Sep 12 19:35
Techrights-secperhaps it is still current?Sep 12 19:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-markets.businessinsider.com | Slashdot Media to Merge with BIZX, LLC, Creating a Market Leader in B2B, Software, Technology, and Data | Markets InsiderSep 12 19:35
schestowitz-TR2probably.Sep 12 19:35
Techrights-sechttps://www.signalhire.com/companies/bizx-llcSep 12 19:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-BIZX (now part of Slashdot Media) Overview | SignalHire Company ProfileSep 12 19:35
schestowitz"Web Media, Lead Generation, Online Media, Business Listings, Demand Generation, Software Reviews, Online Marketing, Data Analytics, Digital Advertising, Custom Content, Competitive Intelligence, Data Optimization, Prospecting, SaaS, Sales Intelligence, Web Publisher, Digital Media, Internet"Sep 12 19:36
Techrights-secWell, that explains how / why SourceForge died offSep 12 19:37
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