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schestowitz-TRI've just noticed no IRC post for the day, wegot some new epo materialNov 12 15:15
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Techrights-secChecking...Nov 12 16:29
Techrights-secWeird.  I was almost certain it was done as usual.  I should add timestamps toNov 12 16:29
Techrights-secthe shell log for that session.  Nov 12 16:29
Techrights-secAnyway, it is now posted, although quite behind the usual time.Nov 12 16:29
schestowitz-TRThanks, been a bit stresseful here todayNov 12 16:29
Techrights-secHope it settles down there.  Nov 12 16:31
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Techrights-sechttp://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-111121.html#tNov%2011%2016:17:22Nov 12 16:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, November 11, 2021Nov 12 16:34
Techrights-secEPO is de-legitimizing several states and authorities.Nov 12 16:34
schestowitz-TRyes, we keep stock of them. Their participation is corrosive.Nov 12 16:35
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Techrights-sec"[...]  the digital equivalent of being abandoned on the streets of New York City?"  https://digitalvegan.net/Nov 12 16:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-digitalvegan.net | Digital Vegan BookNov 12 16:48
schestowitz-TRthe reason for my angst is mentioned in the first 10 mins of the video I upload at the moment, eta 20 minsNov 12 17:09
Techrights-secWill listen once it has posted.Nov 12 17:10
Techrights-secIncreased work load => increased salaryNov 12 17:37
Techrights-secOvertime is usually at least 150% base pay.  During weekends or odd hoursNov 12 17:38
Techrights-secit should be at least 200%.  Nov 12 17:38
schestowitz-TRI was supposed to start work 5:30pmNov 12 17:42
schestowitz-TRI am protestingNov 12 17:42
schestowitz-TRRianne said I'd come online 9pmNov 12 17:42
schestowitz-TRand then logged outNov 12 17:43
schestowitz-TRthe way this was handled was beyond bad and I don't mind making a bit of a sceneNov 12 17:43
schestowitz-TRI thought about doing a video about phoronix again, but he's the wrong "target" to focus onNov 12 17:44
schestowitz-TRany other suggestions for videos?Nov 12 17:44
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Techrights-secStill listening, but I would recommend lots of text since most can readNov 12 17:45
Techrights-secfaster than they can listen, at least certain generations can.Nov 12 17:45
Techrights-secAlso text boosts Gemini.Nov 12 17:45
Techrights-secMaybe the above about the EPO working against the EU and the German governmentNov 12 17:49
Techrights-secwhich puts the EPO on the wrong side of the law.Nov 12 17:49
Techrights-secVideo content is more ephemeral than text, since it does not get AAAAAAAAindexed yet in the search engines.Nov 12 17:55
schestowitz-TRit is vastly faster to make and for topis where I need something like slides or page or PDF it helps... but I know INov 12 17:57
schestowitz-TR should do more text. Maybe I should cross swords with my bosss for a whilke; bragging about how low my salary is haNov 12 17:57
schestowitz-TRs its limits and they are poushing it now... and it's juust taking up time... I could say much more and vent, but woNov 12 17:57
schestowitz-TRuld rather get back to my usual routineNov 12 17:57
Techrights-secAs far as topics go, the AARD  historical review shows that M$ is still the sameNov 12 17:58
Techrights-secespeicially if it can be proven that they are messing with WINENov 12 17:58
Techrights-secIs there a way to petition for acknowledgement of the overtime and such?Nov 12 17:58
Techrights-secBe sure to at least document it in your work journal so that if it keeps   Nov 12 17:58
Techrights-sechappening, you have a record to refer to.Nov 12 17:58
schestowitz-TRthis is the first time in years that this happensNov 12 17:58
schestowitz-TRI want to change subject anywayNov 12 18:00
schestowitz-TRno good would come out of thisNov 12 18:00
schestowitz-TRAbout topics, I have conflicts in terms oif missions and perceptionsNov 12 18:00
schestowitz-TRe.g. if we go atter small targets and miss the bigger issuesNov 12 18:00
Techrights-secackNov 12 18:02
Techrights-secThe big stuff is important but much of it comes down to world politics.Nov 12 18:02
Techrights-secIIRC it was Bruce Schneier who was most prominent in pointing out thatNov 12 18:02
Techrights-secthe choice is between insecure computers for everyone or secure computersNov 12 18:02
Techrights-secfor everyone.  So many agencies are used to being able to snoop and poop atNov 12 18:02
Techrights-secwill that they are adamant about enforcing insecure computers for everyone.Nov 12 18:02
Techrights-secLook at all the "technical" advisors that the Biden administration is afflictedNov 12 18:03
Techrights-secwith.  THere is not a single bona fide security expert there.  Where is Nov 12 18:03
Techrights-secSchneier, Perens, Haldeman, Spafford, yes David A Wheeler, too?  Nov 12 18:03
schestowitz-TRDavid WheelerNov 12 18:03
schestowitz-TRariadne's bossNov 12 18:03
Techrights-secInstead snake oil peddlers and sales drones buzz in and out of the White HouseNov 12 18:05
Techrights-secat their liberty.  Perhaps FOSS needed (or needs, if the goal is to remain Nov 12 18:05
Techrights-secviable) to take up a collection and hire a handful of professional, full-timeNov 12 18:05
Techrights-seclobbyists.  However, M$ and the others are able to infiltrate even the smallestNov 12 18:05
Techrights-secprojects, sometimes directly, and cause infighting over CoCs and just about Nov 12 18:05
Techrights-secanything.  Nov 12 18:05
schestowitz-TRIBMNov 12 18:05
schestowitz-TRto cope with publication at scale and still do Daily Links in TM and TR I must rely on outside contributors too or have my own low-quality, full of typos (like IRC) articlesNov 12 18:07
Techrights-secThe taistoism movement used the same methods that M$ includes in their tactics.Nov 12 18:08
Techrights-secSo for those methods the approaches which beat taistoism are likely to alsoNov 12 18:08
Techrights-secwork against microsoftianism.  However, that gets back to the harball politicsNov 12 18:08
Techrights-secat the global scale.   Were you able to ever get a copy of the book,Nov 12 18:08
Techrights-sec"Charlie Wilson's War: The Extraordinary Story of How the Wildest Man in Congress and a Rogue CIA Agent Changed theNov 12 18:08
Techrights-secHistory of Our Times "Nov 12 18:08
Techrights-secIt is also available as audio CD so one can slog through it while doingNov 12 18:08
Techrights-secsome other non-though intensive task.Nov 12 18:08
schestowitz-TRpublic domain works that are of relevance to us can be files in gemini. a book can be one megabyte only, inc. with stylingNov 12 18:08
schestowitz-TRwe are not a curation site per se, but by Internet standards we have a long span of 15 years of links, so a lot of the material we have is no longer available anywhere except IANov 12 18:09
Techrights-secIt is harder and harder to round up links.   Nov 12 18:12
Techrights-sechttps://www.worldcat.org/title/charlie-wilsons-war-the-extraordinary-story-of-how-the-wildest-man-in-congress-and-a-Nov 12 18:12
Techrights-secrogue-cia-agent-changed-the-history-of-our-times/oclc/264798705Nov 12 18:12
-altlink_b55/#boycottnovell-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: worldcat.org | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.worldcat.org/title/charlie-wilsons-war-the-extraordinary-story-of-how-the-wildest-man-in-congress-and-a-Nov 12 18:12
Techrights-secYes, the IA is very important but it will succumb as the WWW is phased outNov 12 18:12
Techrights-secin favor of pbfuscated, proprietary javascript.Nov 12 18:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.worldcat.org | Results for 'ti:"charlie wilsons war the extraordinary story of how the wildest man in congress and a "' [WorldCat.org]Nov 12 18:12
schestowitz-TRackNov 12 18:12
schestowitz-TRoff-ish topic-ish:Nov 12 18:12
schestowitz-TR2-3 years ago I said to people the www wll dieNov 12 18:12
schestowitz-TRdon't know whenm or howNov 12 18:12
schestowitz-TRbuit we don't know yet what will replace itNov 12 18:12
schestowitz-TRso it's a "format-shifting'" taskNov 12 18:12
schestowitz-TR"evolve or perish"Nov 12 18:12
Techrights-secMaybe links should be accompanied by an archive link either at the IA orNov 12 18:13
Techrights-secelsewhere.Nov 12 18:13
schestowitz-TRarchive.is is interesting, but it'll die one dayNov 12 18:14
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schestowitz-TRIn the long run they will all pass away.  In formal archives, one of the   Nov 12 18:19
schestowitz-TRinitial decisions the institution has to make about any given artifact isNov 12 18:19
schestowitz-TRthat of how long it shall be preserved for.  Nothing lasts forever, butNov 12 18:19
schestowitz-TRthere are ways of stretching things out and the duration determines the Nov 12 18:19
schestowitz-TRmethods of preservation.  IIRC Norway aims to keep certain items in its Nov 12 18:19
schestowitz-TRofficial archives for 1000 years.  Media shiftin will obviously be involved,Nov 12 18:19
schestowitz-TRbut at a loss for some items.Nov 12 18:19
schestowitz-TRThe plan pre-dates AWA by a great many years:Nov 12 18:19
schestowitz-TRhttps://arcticworldarchive.org/about/Nov 12 18:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-arcticworldarchive.org | About AWANov 12 18:19
schestowitz-TRis this subject worth covering? I'm no expert, but I can have a go at it..Nov 12 18:19
Techrights-secYou have experience as to how it affects TR and TM .  Nov 12 18:20
schestowitz-TRyesNov 12 18:21
schestowitz-TRAlready in 15 short years, may whole sites are gone.  And of the sites thatNov 12 18:22
schestowitz-TRremain, many have lost all their old articles in clumsy reorgs.  Of that whichNov 12 18:22
schestowitz-TRis left, some of those have purged documents with "inconvenient" messages or Nov 12 18:22
schestowitz-TRthemes.Nov 12 18:22
Techrights-sec     Nov 12 18:22
Techrights-secAlready in 15 short years, may whole sites are gone.  And of the sites thatNov 12 18:22
Techrights-secremain, many have lost all their old articles in clumsy reorgs.  Of that whichNov 12 18:22
Techrights-secis left, some of those have purged documents with "inconvenient" messages or Nov 12 18:22
Techrights-secthemes.Nov 12 18:22
Techrights-secYes, even Groklaw purged its comments. Nov 12 18:23
Techrights-secI suppose few to none of the Groklaw comments made it into the LibraryNov 12 18:23
Techrights-secof Congress archives.Nov 12 18:23
schestowitz-TRand commentsNov 12 18:23
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schestowitzhttps://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22Techrights%22Nov 12 18:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-archive.org | Internet Archive Search: subject:"Techrights"Nov 12 18:24
Techrights-sec4 results.  Perhaps WordPress has some archival plug-in which could help?Nov 12 18:26
schestowitz-TRgemini tar (I have the file from weeks ago) might be better, should I upload it? Safe this way?Nov 12 18:27
schestowitz-TR4 results.  Perhaps WordPress has some archival plug-in which could help?Nov 12 18:31
schestowitz-TRI think so, but maybe the IA has a preferred method or approach to that?Nov 12 18:31
schestowitz-TRGemini is rather new and they might have a special interest in figuring outNov 12 18:31
schestowitz-TRthe best practices for it.  I expect that whatever the solution, it will notNov 12 18:31
Techrights-sec4 results.  Perhaps WordPress has some archival plug-in which could help?Nov 12 18:31
Techrights-secI think so, but maybe the IA has a preferred method or approach to that?Nov 12 18:31
Techrights-secGemini is rather new and they might have a special interest in figuring outNov 12 18:31
Techrights-secthe best practices for it.  I expect that whatever the solution, it will notNov 12 18:31
Techrights-secbe complex.Nov 12 18:31
schestowitz-TRbe complex.Nov 12 18:31
schestowitz-TRIt the text-onky-web-scrape file safe to upload as is? Just cxheckingNov 12 18:31
Techrights-secYes, as far as I know.  It's not got the Wiki though.Nov 12 18:32
Techrights-secBut not all posts make sense without the pictures or videos.Nov 12 18:32
schestowitz-TRuploading 205 mbNov 12 18:34
schestowitz-TRwill do a post about this, maybe it can inspire other sites to think aheadNov 12 18:34
Techrights-secI hope so, many programmers and even engineers are conscientious in erasingNov 12 18:38
Techrights-secanything "old" even important records. Nov 12 18:38
Techrights-secNow with electronic media, there is often only a single copy of anythingNov 12 18:38
Techrights-secany more and that introduces, obviously, a single point of failure. Nov 12 18:38
Techrights-secSo in the old days, one could maintain a relevant personal or professionalNov 12 18:43
Techrights-secarchive.  Now those are all centralized and continue to exist only at theNov 12 18:43
Techrights-secwhim of participant consensus.  Anyone with administrative privileges, canNov 12 18:43
Techrights-sec"tidy" up and easily erases the world's last copy of a standard or other Nov 12 18:43
Techrights-secevidence or similar material.  Nov 12 18:43
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