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schestowitz-pitrying to assess what to cover next regarding githubFeb 13 03:13
schestowitz-pigithub series 38+39...Feb 13 03:13
schestowitz-pimore statcounter stuff MIGHT be interesting, I'll give that a look firstFeb 13 03:13
techrights[sec]Interesting, when searching StartPage for "github layoffs" it recommendsFeb 13 03:15
techrights[sec]correcting the search query to "gitlab layoffs" insteadFeb 13 03:15
techrights[sec]Apparently they will also fire people, about 7% or 130 employeesFeb 13 03:15
techrights[sec]I guess steer people to src.ht and the othersFeb 13 03:15
schestowitz-pisourcehut has issues tooFeb 13 03:16
schestowitz-pimaybe not codeebergFeb 13 03:16
schestowitz-pisourcehut wants money from projects it previously hosted for freeFeb 13 03:16
schestowitz-piand it does mass censorship of projects, starting with "crypto"Feb 13 03:16
schestowitz-pieverything devault doesn't fancy Feb 13 03:16
techrights[sec]m$ has money (or at least pretends to) for its LLM chatbot:Feb 13 03:17
techrights[sec]https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2023/02/10/github-to-layoff-10-of-global-workforce-in-latest-tech-cuts/Feb 13 03:17
techrights[sec]m$ github will close all offices:Feb 13 03:17
techrights[sec]https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/tech-layoffs-microsoft-owned-github-to-shed-10-employees-wiFeb 13 03:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.forbes.com | Github To Layoff 10% Of Global Workforce In Latest Tech CutsFeb 13 03:18
techrights[sec]ll-close-all-offices/articleshow/97798728.cmsFeb 13 03:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/tech-layoffs-microsoft-owned-github-to-shed-10-employees-wi )Feb 13 03:18
techrights[sec]including hqFeb 13 03:18
schestowitz-piwow!Feb 13 03:18
schestowitz-pimaybe another part is in order thenFeb 13 03:18
schestowitz-piiirc, gitlab is remote [sic] work based for years alreadyFeb 13 03:18
schestowitz-pidraftFeb 13 03:36
schestowitz-pii could ask people inside intel, but maybe not a priority atmFeb 13 03:44
schestowitz-pi(tbh)Feb 13 03:44
schestowitz-pipensions, github, other stories more important to usFeb 13 03:44
techrights[sec]checkingFeb 13 03:45
techrights[sec]might want to restate the trend noticed two days ago, in addition to the linkFeb 13 03:45
techrights[sec]there are otherwise too many links to click on randomly and the textFeb 13 03:45
techrights[sec]needs to convey the message anyway for GeminiFeb 13 03:45
techrights[sec]The paragraph about Sirius needs a tie-in to the main part of the post, at leastFeb 13 03:45
techrights[sec]a sentence connecting its relevance to the GitHub layoffs or office closingsFeb 13 03:45
techrights[sec]s/going to do./going to do?/Feb 13 03:45
techrights[sec]'Feb 13 03:45
schestowitz-pii will graft it back onto kate and reword more patientlyFeb 13 03:46
schestowitz-pino need to hurry in this vaseFeb 13 03:46
schestowitz-pi*caseFeb 13 03:46
schestowitz-pinot an exclusiveFeb 13 03:46
schestowitz-pithe other day you mentioned nokia dn yahooFeb 13 04:01
schestowitz-piwhat was the third one you mentioned?Feb 13 04:01
schestowitz-pii forgotFeb 13 04:01
techrights[sec]LF ? OLTP was killed by M$ tooFeb 13 04:01
techrights[sec]That was well documented at the time but those articles are irretrievably inFeb 13 04:01
techrights[sec]the past now and buried by the search engines and chaffFeb 13 04:01
schestowitz-pii soemtimes find myself wondering what % of ddos is due to open port, default password Feb 13 04:13
schestowitz-piinternet of shit and what % is windowsFeb 13 04:13
schestowitz-piwe know internet of shit, bsd and linux, has like 10 times more market share than windows by nowFeb 13 04:13
schestowitz-pias i no longer use google anything (not even youtuve or invidious) to identify newsFeb 13 04:13
schestowitz-pii don't know if the fud nearly stopped or i'm just not seeing itFeb 13 04:13
schestowitz-pimaybe it's for the better, even if the latterFeb 13 04:13
techrights[sec]Windows botnets are being constantly used for DDoS attacks to hassle variousFeb 13 04:14
techrights[sec]web sites.  There are many articles about DDoS, basically some every day.Feb 13 04:14
techrights[sec]However, they all try to make it sound mysterious and unavoidable rather thanFeb 13 04:14
techrights[sec]point out the central role that M$ plays in enabling such attacks.Feb 13 04:14
techrights[sec]Some of that might be marketing in order to promote the clownflare surveillance\Feb 13 04:14
techrights[sec]engine and other activity monitoring methods.Feb 13 04:14
schestowitz-TR2Android up to 45% of ALL market share, Windows down to 27% this month https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-201802-202302Feb 13 04:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global StatsFeb 13 04:24
schestowitz-TR2gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global StatsFeb 13 04:24
schestowitz-TR2Microsoft Edge market share fell 5% this month, IN SPITE of all the media SPAM from Microsoft https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share#monthly-201802-202302 Edge staff being laid off, tooFeb 13 04:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Browser Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global StatsFeb 13 04:24
schestowitz-TR2gs.statcounter.com | Browser Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global StatsFeb 13 04:24
schestowitz-pigoing to run the new script nowFeb 13 04:25
schestowitz-pion the whole list of feeds, the 1000+ entries opml fileFeb 13 04:26
schestowitz-pijust recorded 3 videos for three articlesFeb 13 06:05
schestowitz-pimostly good news todayFeb 13 06:05
schestowitz-piall videos are good newsFeb 13 06:05
schestowitz-pifor a changeFeb 13 06:05
schestowitz-pi[07:41] <schestowitz-TR2> "After almost 3 years, the PussTheCat.org Nitter instance has been shut dowFeb 13 08:08
schestowitz-pin permanently."Feb 13 08:08
techrights[sec]ackFeb 13 08:08
schestowitz-pi2 draftsFeb 13 08:09
schestowitz-pivideos processingFeb 13 08:09
schestowitz-pihad kitchen incident again today, due to forgetting I was boiling water thereFeb 13 08:09
schestowitz-pino big deal, but some burned finger, wasste of time, waste of energyFeb 13 08:10
schestowitz-pii will always set a timer from now onFeb 13 08:10
techrights[sec]Timer is essential.  It's seldom needed but the times it actually is neededFeb 13 08:15
techrights[sec]it is irreplaceable.Feb 13 08:15
techrightssecThere are also the old style whistling kettlesFeb 13 09:13
techrightssecor at least there used to be.Feb 13 09:13
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schestowitz-TR2Credentialism and the Fate of Academia ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/02/13/credentialism-and-the-fate-of-academia/ | Source: Counter PunchFeb 13 11:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Credentialism and the Fate of Academia - CounterPunch.orgFeb 13 11:44
schestowitz-pi[long]Feb 13 11:48
schestowitz-pisomething occured to me this morningFeb 13 11:48
schestowitz-pias a longtime and well off editor from the 90s contacted me and wishes to meet in personFeb 13 11:48
schestowitz-piwriting books is rather pointless these days, as people barely buy books like they used toFeb 13 11:48
schestowitz-pi[reasons... does not matter, that's how it is]Feb 13 11:48
schestowitz-piwhen it comes to www sites, much of the same is becoming trueFeb 13 11:48
schestowitz-pi[reasons... does not matter, that's how it is]Feb 13 11:48
schestowitz-pi20 years ago a decent news site could get an article read many times, but not anymoreFeb 13 11:48
schestowitz-pino matter the qualityFeb 13 11:48
schestowitz-piimagine spending months researching something, only for a small audienceFeb 13 11:48
schestowitz-piso those jobs seem to have passedFeb 13 11:48
schestowitz-pisjvn does not even write much in his new (latest) siteFeb 13 11:48
schestowitz-pihe had many, they failedFeb 13 11:48
schestowitz-piglaymoody also keeps swapping platformsFeb 13 11:48
schestowitz-pias does cory doctorowFeb 13 11:49
schestowitz-piturns out his wife is his editor Feb 13 11:49
techrights[sec]People rarely buy books because so few can read long form any more and don'tFeb 13 11:53
techrights[sec]have the ability to concentrate enough to do it.  Then most of the rest don'tFeb 13 11:53
techrights[sec]have any time because of lots of unpaid overtime, commuting, etc.Feb 13 11:53
techrights[sec]20 years ago there was not enough time in the day to even read through the Feb 13 11:53
techrights[sec]headlines let alone the articles.  That's why the site Slashdot, prior to sale,Feb 13 11:53
techrights[sec]flourished.  It acted as a filter for quality and relevance, plus allowed forFeb 13 11:53
techrights[sec]some commentary and discussion.  M$ and related interests hated it and foughtFeb 13 11:53
techrights[sec]it for years but then were able to purchase it outright and gut it, leavigFeb 13 11:53
techrights[sec]the husk for spam and such.  After one such sale it was used to point people toFeb 13 11:53
techrights[sec]the propaganda and disinformation service "Reddit"Feb 13 11:53
schestowitz-pithis is at least partly a political and societal issue, not tech and www issueFeb 13 11:58
schestowitz-pii honesty do not know a solution to itFeb 13 11:58
schestowitz-pii am powerless to change itFeb 13 11:58
schestowitz-piand it's not my role to change it, we're all cogsFeb 13 11:59
schestowitz-pihaving said that, doing what's right on one's own is often fineFeb 13 11:59
schestowitz-pithe system gravitates towards crippling anything that MIGHT channelnge itFeb 13 11:59
schestowitz-pilike the golden era of "leaky" web, they had to crush sites like wikileaksFeb 13 11:59
schestowitz-piand to caution others who thought about replicating the success of manning and snowdenFeb 13 11:59
schestowitz-piputin doesn't take "this shit" at allFeb 13 11:59
schestowitz-piyou get in trouble the moment you show lack of "gratitude" to the regime -- same as tehran and beijingFeb 13 11:59
techrights[sec]And Usenet before that.Feb 13 11:59
schestowitz-pii have meanwhile found another decent instance of nitterFeb 13 12:05
schestowitz-pithere are too many of them to destroy them all (at the moment)Feb 13 12:05
schestowitz-pii have my 'theory' about why twitter can stay online while cops/courts target the relay/sFeb 13 12:05
schestowitz-pithe way i look at it, if you poke something with a stick, don't expect a lack of responseFeb 13 12:05
schestowitz-pislapp, threats to that effect, smears, swatting, doxxingFeb 13 12:05
schestowitz-piin myanmar they even doxx critics with sex tapes nowFeb 13 12:05
techrights[sec]It's a rhetorical question but why are the authorities not stomping on twitter  Feb 13 12:06
techrights[sec]but only on the nitter mirrors?Feb 13 12:06
techrights[sec]KSAFeb 13 12:06
schestowitz-pithe simplest explanation might be, they use twitter as a honeypotFeb 13 12:07
schestowitz-pinot necessarily adding cp to itFeb 13 12:08
schestowitz-pibut using what's there to harvest ipsFeb 13 12:08
schestowitz-piwith nitter it can become trickierFeb 13 12:08
schestowitz-piit is rerouted indirectly, via some nodeFeb 13 12:08
schestowitz-pimatt dehart was accused of cp somethingFeb 13 12:08
schestowitz-piiirc, he just ran some tor nodeFeb 13 12:08
schestowitz-piand some anthrax related stuff came through it Feb 13 12:08
techrights[sec]And to control the narrative and steer discussion and set public opinion oneFeb 13 12:09
techrights[sec]way or another.Feb 13 12:09
schestowitz-pii only use nitter to observe mentions of domains of wordsFeb 13 12:11
schestowitz-pito bypass the noiseFeb 13 12:11
schestowitz-pibut tbh, twitter feels more and more dead over timeFeb 13 12:11
schestowitz-pipeople flock awayFeb 13 12:11
schestowitz-piit's a "downward spiral"Feb 13 12:11
schestowitz-pinitter might be obsolete in a few yearsFeb 13 12:11
schestowitz-pilet's hope invivious will be tooFeb 13 12:11
schestowitz-pidue to google blocking my rss feed requests I've not received any updatesFeb 13 12:11
schestowitz-piabout youtube channels for weeksFeb 13 12:11
schestowitz-piseeing what happened to youtube, maybe it's better this wayFeb 13 12:11
schestowitz-pithat just mostly means fewer links to videosFeb 13 12:11
schestowitz-pithey never break news anyhowFeb 13 12:11
schestowitz-pii know we needed to change, and that time was at the essenceFeb 13 12:16
schestowitz-pias finding meaningful, original news was getting hard even months agoFeb 13 12:16
schestowitz-pibanal news cycles, like LF and linux.com, put people offFeb 13 12:16
schestowitz-piwe need toi attract sourcesFeb 13 12:16
schestowitz-pifor 60 days I was the source to myself, but after 12 yearsFeb 13 12:16
schestowitz-pinotice how almost nobody in media, lest foss sites, mentioned what happened to githubFeb 13 12:16
schestowitz-piand the ramificationsFeb 13 12:16
schestowitz-piliam dawe and boiling steam become catalogues of drm (most games), phoronix is mailing list and PRFeb 13 12:18
schestowitz-picommentator, foss force is still not sure what it is, marius tracks new releases mostlyFeb 13 12:18
techrights[sec]Shutting down Github was an evenutality once the sale to M$ looked likely toFeb 13 12:21
techrights[sec]go through.  Indeed it serves m$ goals anyway to do so even if they to whatFeb 13 12:21
techrights[sec]damage they can on the way out.     Feb 13 12:21
schestowitz-pibtw, one of the videos today devotes about a minute explaining that msfters needs to retrainFeb 13 12:21
schestowitz-piand why spreading microsoft elsewhere would be damagingFeb 13 12:21
schestowitz-piif nobody covers those things, fine, but it does need to be saidFeb 13 12:21
techrights[sec]Maybe that 1 minute can be expanded into a post?Feb 13 12:23
techrights[sec]^ topic ?Feb 13 12:23
techrights[sec]msfters can't retrian they lack both the aptitude and the skill set; It'd beFeb 13 12:23
techrights[sec]one thing if they were staring from noll but the way they are, it'd take decadesFeb 13 12:23
techrights[sec]for them to unlearn the mistakes and trash they have taken to heart. Feb 13 12:23
techrights[sec]The mindset behind the m$ products is anathema to being able to work with Feb 13 12:24
techrights[sec]computers in a constructive and meaningful way.  The higher they rise and theFeb 13 12:24
techrights[sec]more senior they become, the more distant they get from IT proper.  Feb 13 12:24
techrights[sec]IT as in the stuff which built the Internet, Usenet, and then WWW 1.0 and evenFeb 13 12:24
techrights[sec]to a limited extent 2.0Feb 13 12:24
schestowitz-piwhat is web2? js?Feb 13 12:27
techrights[sec]Not the JS part, it was still server-side for the most part back then.   Feb 13 12:32
techrights[sec]Now the server component is negligible and it merely feeds GB of javascriptFeb 13 12:32
techrights[sec]to clients in the form of web "apps" instead of actual pages.Feb 13 12:32
techrights[sec]Yes it is already mostly replaced by  web "app" served over HTTP.Feb 13 12:32
techrights[sec]When HTTP/3 arrives, the web will be officially dead, IMHO.  HTTP/3 retains  Feb 13 12:32
techrights[sec]no beneficial aspects.Feb 13 12:32
schestowitz-piseeing what happens in fb (moments ago), seems www is going away in SOME senseFeb 13 12:33
schestowitz-pigeminispace too has been relatively quiet latelyFeb 13 12:33
schestowitz-pinot dead, just quieterFeb 13 12:33
schestowitz-piit's a good thing we managed to save while "techbubble" and fututeHopes(TM) (debt) wereFeb 13 12:33
schestowitz-pistill thereFeb 13 12:33
schestowitz-piso someone else is left holding the bagFeb 13 12:33
schestowitz-pido you want to proofread portions of andy's upcoming book? it covers some of these themesFeb 13 12:34
techrights[sec]It would be interesting, I'm not sure how much I could contribute thoughFeb 13 12:34
schestowitz-piRe: GitHub to Shut Down All Offices, Including Its HeadquartersFeb 13 12:38
schestowitz-pi> I’m sure they’re losing a lot of hosting contracts right nowFeb 13 12:38
schestowitz-pifrom reasonably informed source.Feb 13 12:43
schestowitz-pii think this, along with news of msft layoffs, should be cause for celebrating in the fossFeb 13 12:43
schestowitz-pi"community" (it exists, but suppressed)Feb 13 12:44
schestowitz-pithe other day i noticed that in recent weeks TR video got a major boost in b/wFeb 13 12:44
schestowitz-pii don't track per page/postFeb 13 12:44
schestowitz-pibut it's good to know even historic material comes in handy for someFeb 13 12:44
schestowitz-pios even if i post nothing on a given day, that does not mean nothing readFeb 13 12:44
schestowitz-pii've relayed the email to andyFeb 13 12:44
schestowitz-piit's like reading the book one chapter at a timeFeb 13 12:44
schestowitz-piwith a chance to suggest changes before it's finalFeb 13 12:44
schestowitz-pibooks are yesterday's "trophies"Feb 13 12:44
schestowitz-piwhen distribution was done by dead tree mediumFeb 13 12:44
schestowitz-pior radio, tv, airwavesFeb 13 12:44
schestowitz-piandy is like a tehc ethicistFeb 13 12:50
schestowitz-pinot this "hey hi" (bs, buzzword) "ethicist"Feb 13 12:50
schestowitz-piand has lots of time to think how to put the situation in wordsFeb 13 12:50
schestowitz-pithere is no obligation to give feedback, but it is possibleFeb 13 12:50
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schestowitz-pijust ran grep for webm, mp4, ogg, past 4 weeksFeb 13 13:11
schestowitz-piabout 140k requestsFeb 13 13:11
schestowitz-piactually, 3 weeks+1 day, seems the past week was higher tooFeb 13 13:12
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