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| schestowitz | https://www.fosslife.org/cutest-distro-linux-sea-thats-right-cutefish | Apr 13 00:29 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | Cutest Distro in the Linux Sea? That’s Right: Cutefish | Apr 13 00:29 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 13 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Even as a beta release, CutefishOS brings an incredible elegance into the Linux desktop mix, says Jack Wallen. | Apr 13 00:29 |
| schestowitz | The Debian-based distro, which came into being within the past couple years, uses Qt Quick and will likely remind users of macOS with its polished appearance. | Apr 13 00:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 13 00:30 |
| MinceR | ew | Apr 13 00:56 |
| psydruid | very polished | Apr 13 01:34 |
| psydruid | very turd | Apr 13 01:34 |
| psydruid | very polished turd | Apr 13 01:34 |
| schestowitz | pasted, redacted a bit: | Apr 13 01:49 |
| schestowitz | [02:07] <schestowitz> ping sorry to be a bother | Apr 13 01:49 |
| schestowitz | [02:07] <schestowitz> the tuxmachjines DB entered a bad state | Apr 13 01:49 |
| schestowitz | [02:07] <schestowitz> I have backups | Apr 13 01:49 |
| schestowitz | [02:08] <schestowitz> but it might be an opportunity to move it to a new OS | Apr 13 01:49 |
| schestowitz | [02:09] <schestowitz> a lot of it we can do on our own, I think, and we'll pay for your time | Apr 13 01:49 |
| schestowitz | [14:23] <xxxxxxx> i don't have time to do it this week | Apr 13 01:49 |
| schestowitz | [14:23] <xxxxxxx> but | Apr 13 01:49 |
| schestowitz | [14:23] <xxxxxxx> maybe soon | Apr 13 01:49 |
| schestowitz | [14:23] <xxxxxxx> idk | Apr 13 01:49 |
| schestowitz | [15:03] <schestowitz> thanks, totally understadable | Apr 13 01:49 |
| schestowitz | [15:04] <schestowitz> we've begun setting up a devuan machine to test the sites on, so maybe that can be a drop-in for the server, like when tessier got it imported. Meanwhile we solved the DB issue at TuxMachines, by taking an older backups and then manually adding the missing bits (about 80 drupal nodes plus commnets) | Apr 13 01:49 |
| Techrights-sec | Is there an example page with code tags on TR? | Apr 13 02:00 |
| Techrights-sec | Can you show a URL for one? I'll take a look. | Apr 13 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Apr 13 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | all the pages that have the codes in them | Apr 13 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | file name, followed by contents | Apr 13 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think that is what bnchs wanted | Apr 13 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | did you takedown the nginx/proxy service or dit it break again moments ago? | Apr 13 02:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll restart the service | Apr 13 02:02 |
| Techrights-sec | I have not touched it | Apr 13 02:02 |
| Techrights-sec | It shouldn't crash though so I wonder what's in the logs about it. | Apr 13 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | restarted | Apr 13 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | have not checked logs | Apr 13 02:03 |
| schestowitz | http://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/ | Apr 13 02:04 |
| Techrights-sec | systemd should restart it: Restart=on-failure | Apr 13 02:04 |
| Techrights-sec | so if it is not, journalctl -xe might show something. | Apr 13 02:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gemini.techrights.org | Gemini Proxy for Techrights | Apr 13 02:05 | |
| Techrights-sec | Apr 13 02:20 | |
| Techrights-sec | Thanks. Looking. | Apr 13 02:20 |
| Techrights-sec | It's already there but not working correctly. | Apr 13 02:20 |
| Techrights-sec | Found the error in the pattern and another one in the logic. | Apr 13 02:20 |
| Techrights-sec | ok try Git | Apr 13 02:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I just have and have told bnchs | Apr 13 02:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I hope the proxy won't get locked up again, at least I caught is very quickly both time | Apr 13 02:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | *times | Apr 13 02:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | it ran ok for 1 month and 30 days | Apr 13 02:22 |
| Techrights-sec | Did /var/log/nginx/error.log have any info ? | Apr 13 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not check | Apr 13 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was very tired | Apr 13 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | fixed the serviced | Apr 13 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | crashed in bed | Apr 13 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | not much sleep lately | Apr 13 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | in fact I'll head back to bed in a moment | Apr 13 02:23 |
| Techrights-sec | Oh. Sleep is important | Apr 13 02:24 |
| Techrights-sec | The service will need restarting and the script will need copying to the | Apr 13 02:24 |
| Techrights-sec | right place. | Apr 13 02:24 |
| Techrights-sec | (in the reverse order) | Apr 13 02:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | i will do it now quikckly | Apr 13 02:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | IIRC, 2 things will need restarting | Apr 13 02:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | ior reloading | Apr 13 02:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am pulling from git on the pi | Apr 13 02:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I used to do all this from dolphin, but the windows were on the right locations | Apr 13 02:31 |
| Techrights-sec | systemctl daemon-reload | Apr 13 02:32 |
| Techrights-sec | systemctl restart gemini-proxy.service | Apr 13 02:32 |
| Techrights-sec | or something like that | Apr 13 02:32 |
| Techrights-sec | /usr/local/bin/gemini-proxy.pl | Apr 13 02:32 |
| schestowitz | cp /home/gemini/gemini/git/tr-git/Gemini/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl /usr/local/bin/gemini-proxy.pl | Apr 13 02:38 |
| schestowitz | diff /usr/local/bin/gemini-proxy.pl /tmp/gemini-proxy.pl | Apr 13 02:38 |
| schestowitz | 131a132 | Apr 13 02:38 |
| schestowitz | > my $pre = 0; | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | 182,184c183,190 | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | < } elsif ($line =~ m/^\`\`\`\s/) { | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | < $line =~ s/^\`\`\`\s+//; | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | < print qq(<pre>$line</pre>\n); | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | --- | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > } elsif ($line =~ m/^\`\`\`\s+/) { | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > if ($pre) { | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > $pre = 0; | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > print qq(</pre>\n); | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > } else { | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > $pre=1; | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > print qq(<pre>\n); | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > } | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | 187a194,197 | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > } | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > if ($pre) { | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > print qq(</pre>\n); | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > pre = 0; | Apr 13 02:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | fetching, replaced from git, compared (diff) to the one in tmp | Apr 13 02:39 |
| Techrights-sec | see /tmp/gemini-proxy.pl | Apr 13 02:39 |
| Techrights-sec | oops. that plus should be a star. | Apr 13 02:40 |
| Techrights-sec | see /tmp/gemini-proxy.pl | Apr 13 02:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, finalising | Apr 13 02:41 |
| Techrights-sec | that's what I had gone in to fix :/ | Apr 13 02:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | failed | Apr 13 02:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | exit-code | Apr 13 02:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | can you slip the previous version under /tmp ? | Apr 13 02:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not cp the old one for backup | Apr 13 02:47 |
| Techrights-sec | please revert to the old one and I'll look later in more detail | Apr 13 02:47 |
| Techrights-sec | I'll need to set up a test system here or something and that will take some | Apr 13 02:47 |
| Techrights-sec | significant amount of time. | Apr 13 02:47 |
| Techrights-sec | and I was too slow to think of that and missed it by seconds. | Apr 13 02:47 |
| Techrights-sec | Ill dig it out of Git | Apr 13 02:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | [01:13] <MinceR> no, i don't have to | Apr 13 02:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | [01:13] <AltLink_edbc> Tomorrow, Richard Stallman will be speaking about the #freesoftware movement and your freedom. His speech w | Apr 13 02:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | ill be nontechnical and admission is gratis. Online at 14:00 EDT (18:00 UTC) https://u.fsf.org/3i- | Apr 13 02:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fsf.org | Richard Stallman: The state of the free software movement — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Apr 13 02:50 | |
| schestowitz-TR | 1 | Apr 13 02:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it runs OK again | Apr 13 02:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | showing in green | Apr 13 02:50 |
| Techrights-sec | please try /tmp/gemini-proxy.pl it is reverted | Apr 13 02:50 |
| Techrights-sec | It will not be right, Ill have to work on it later | Apr 13 02:50 |
| Techrights-sec | thanks | Apr 13 02:50 |
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| Techrights-sec | please try /tmp/gemini-proxy.pl when you get a chance | Apr 13 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | i have just had to restart kttpd on tuxmachines | Apr 13 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | strange | Apr 13 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | will deploy file in a moment | Apr 13 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | crap, I didn't make a backup of the working file before swapping them arond | Apr 13 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | this one too has an error | Apr 13 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and though I could get a working version pulled from git | Apr 13 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I guess I could wait till you get back | Apr 13 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not a super-essential service anyway | Apr 13 08:15 |
| schestowitz | <li> | Apr 13 08:21 |
| schestowitz | <h5><a href="https://gwolf.org/2022/04/how-is-the-free-firmware-for-the-raspberry-progressing.html">How is the free firmware for the Raspberry progressing?</a></h5> | Apr 13 08:21 |
| schestowitz | <blockquote> | Apr 13 08:21 |
| schestowitz | <p>Raspberry Pi computers require a piece of non-free software to boot — the infamous raspi-firmware package. But for almost as long as there has been a Raspberry Pi to talk of (this year it turns 10 years old!), there have been efforts to get it to boot using only free software. How is it progressing?</p> | Apr 13 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gwolf.org | Gunnar Wolf• How is the free firmware for the Raspberry progressing? | Apr 13 08:21 | |
| schestowitz | </blockquote> | Apr 13 08:21 |
| schestowitz | </li> | Apr 13 08:22 |
| schestowitz | Apr 13 08:22 | |
| schestowitz | Apr 13 08:22 | |
| schestowitz | Apr 13 08:22 | |
| schestowitz | Apr 13 08:22 | |
| schestowitz | <li> | Apr 13 08:22 |
| schestowitz | <h5><a href="https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/12/introducing-the-arduino-secure-boot/">Introducing the Arduino secure boot</a></h5> | Apr 13 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.arduino.cc | Introducing the Arduino secure boot | Apr 13 08:22 | |
| schestowitz | <blockquote> | Apr 13 08:22 |
| schestowitz | <p>By default, keys are not loaded in flash, and the bootloader will boot any sketch. Once the keys are loaded MCUboot will always verify the image signature and boot only valid sketches; if an encrypted update is detected by reading the TLVs, MCUboot will unwrap the encryption key and decrypt the image on-the-fly while moving it into the internal flash.</p> | Apr 13 08:22 |
| schestowitz | </blockquote> | Apr 13 08:22 |
| schestowitz | </li> | Apr 13 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | :D | Apr 13 08:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it has only been 'down' 30 mins | Apr 13 08:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure how long tuxmachines httpd had issues for | Apr 13 08:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | but apachtop avg waas 0.5, so I assume only several minutes | Apr 13 08:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | this morning's tuxmachines LOCAL backup dump is 422mb compressed | Apr 13 08:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | so as I expected the caches are piling up | Apr 13 08:33 |
| Techrights-sec | was there a specific error message? | Apr 13 08:33 |
| Techrights-sec | that's about how long I was out | Apr 13 08:33 |
| Techrights-sec | should the caches be excluded from the backups_ | Apr 13 08:33 |
| Techrights-sec | ? | Apr 13 08:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, that's not a problem | Apr 13 08:34 |
| schestowitz | Apr 13 08:12:48 raspberrypi systemd[1]: gemini-proxy.service: Start request repeated too quickly. | Apr 13 08:34 |
| schestowitz | Apr 13 08:12:48 raspberrypi systemd[1]: gemini-proxy.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. | Apr 13 08:34 |
| schestowitz | Apr 13 08:12:48 raspberrypi systemd[1]: Failed to start Gemini Proxy Service. | Apr 13 08:34 |
| schestowitz | Apr 13 08:12:51 raspberrypi systemd[1]: gemini-proxy.service: Start request repeated too quickly. | Apr 13 08:34 |
| schestowitz | Apr 13 08:12:51 raspberrypi systemd[1]: gemini-proxy.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. | Apr 13 08:34 |
| schestowitz | Apr 13 08:12:51 raspberrypi systemd[1]: Failed to start Gemini Proxy Service. | Apr 13 08:34 |
| Techrights-sec | ok, anything in nginx's error log? | Apr 13 08:39 |
| Techrights-sec | I think i see the line with the error | Apr 13 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | i have not looked at logs | Apr 13 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I had a tough night | Apr 13 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I was assigned some puppet deployments | Apr 13 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | for a client I hate a lot | Apr 13 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | sounds like a rough night then | Apr 13 08:41 |
| Techrights-sec | try /tmp/gemini-proxy.pl | Apr 13 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | trying | Apr 13 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it is green! | Apr 13 08:42 |
| Techrights-sec | ok, but does it work ;) | Apr 13 08:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | 502 | Apr 13 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait | Apr 13 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | it seemed slow | Apr 13 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | then it sort of works | Apr 13 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the page with ''' | Apr 13 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | slanted quotes | Apr 13 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | shows up strange | Apr 13 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | ~/git/tr-git/ | Apr 13 08:46 |
| Techrights-sec | ok 1) i've removed the changes, /tmp/ has the old one now; 2) I''l have to | Apr 13 08:46 |
| Techrights-sec | set up a local web server with a local instance of the proxy here before I | Apr 13 08:46 |
| Techrights-sec | waste more of your effot | Apr 13 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've not reverted back | Apr 13 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the previous versio | Apr 13 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | as now you can see what it looks like | Apr 13 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | in pages with slanted ''' | Apr 13 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just copied the file | Apr 13 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | reloaded | Apr 13 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and restarted | Apr 13 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | see ~/git/tr-git/ | Apr 13 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | i'm not sure, but I think it used to look different | Apr 13 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on the montanstic email, tuxmachines became unavailable when the backup started | Apr 13 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and was down until I restarted httpd | Apr 13 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will monitor it tomorrow at that time in case it's a recurring issue | Apr 13 09:11 |
| Techrights-sec | checking. it may be a while | Apr 13 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec | I have a local intance of the proxy to work on now | Apr 13 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec | I'll add TM to the local monitor here, but it will take some major revision | Apr 13 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec | to do that, not hard though, just fiddly adjustments; | Apr 13 09:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe it is not related to the backups | Apr 13 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | downtime was detected at a rather different time | Apr 13 09:17 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 09:21 |
| Techrights-sec | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/ has lots of unnecessary ``` marks | Apr 13 09:21 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | i will be keeping a close eye on it throughout the day | Apr 13 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3 hours downtime due to us not monitoring it isn't "los of revenue" | Apr 13 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | but can erode rankings, lower exposure to "Linux" etc. | Apr 13 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | going to work out now, the 'boss' says I need exercise | Apr 13 09:21 |
| Techrights-sec | Ok, I think it works now, at least it does locally. Try /tmp/ again | Apr 13 10:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | Apr 13 10:05 | |
| schestowitz-TR | ok | Apr 13 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems to work! | Apr 13 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't want to add any special styling to it because it's code | Apr 13 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, seems to work very well | Apr 13 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will try to prioritise EPO later today | Apr 13 10:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | though gemini is still growing and i have lots to say | Apr 13 10:06 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | i am a little angry at the m,oment | Apr 13 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | reading about propublica | Apr 13 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | moaning about pandemic profiteers | Apr 13 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | while bagging bribes from gates | Apr 13 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it stopped covering the tax evasion | Apr 13 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and all thius utterly shitty media never covers patent issues | Apr 13 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | like WTO bought all the media, or interests like that satellite | Apr 13 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and although I've not gotten sick personally | Apr 13 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see the damage all around me | Apr 13 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | /rant over | Apr 13 10:14 |
| Techrights-sec | I concur | Apr 13 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are still 10k idiots who PAY tyo watch CNN | Apr 13 10:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | with DRM and all | Apr 13 10:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just through cable conglemerates | Apr 13 10:15 |
| Techrights-sec | If you look at recent editions of Linux Mint, it requires Restricted Boot | Apr 13 10:16 |
| Techrights-sec | to be active if it is to install the proprietary codecs. As far as I know | Apr 13 10:16 |
| Techrights-sec | that means they are pushing some kind of DRM with anti-end user lock down | Apr 13 10:16 |
| Techrights-sec | and lock in | Apr 13 10:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | one potential way to tackle this | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | is proliferation of | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | circumvention mechanisms | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and workarounds | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | or complete alternatives | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | fwiw, I don't regard lbry as such | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | not a viable and trusted one | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | to promote all the known instances of invidious | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | for videos that strictly exist in gulagtube | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | excepot the clownflarted ones | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think that can help | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | to boost their numbers | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and make it hard for gulag's lawyers to chasing just one instance | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | like invidio.us | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | because the technical attack is a collusion | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and an attack on culture itself | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and peopls' ability to controls the means of production and distribuion | Apr 13 10:21 |
| Techrights-sec | DMCA and EUCD pre-emptively block that. DMCA makes publication of advice | Apr 13 10:23 |
| Techrights-sec | regarding cirumvention, even as simple as base64 or ROT-13, into a major | Apr 13 10:23 |
| Techrights-sec | felony with a 5-year jail sentence | Apr 13 10:23 |
| Techrights-sec | yes it is most definitely an attack on culture. | Apr 13 10:23 |
| Techrights-sec | For a while, when the PP was active, they used to talk about (re-)freeing | Apr 13 10:23 |
| Techrights-sec | culture. They are still active in Germany but have shutdown or been | Apr 13 10:23 |
| Techrights-sec | neutralized in other countries. The US cannot have small parties because | Apr 13 10:23 |
| Techrights-sec | of the first past the post voting which ensures two parties and furthermore | Apr 13 10:24 |
| Techrights-sec | the funding process ensures that core policies of the two parties overlap. | Apr 13 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | Russia has one Putin. US has two putins on rota/rotation. | Apr 13 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | Now, since nov 2020, questioning the integrity of voting itself is "fascism" | Apr 13 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. proprietary electronic voting machines | Apr 13 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can even get sued for LIBEL | Apr 13 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | "don't insult islam" | Apr 13 10:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | -> | Apr 13 10:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | "don't insult palm oil" | Apr 13 10:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | -> | Apr 13 10:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | "don't insult secret code" | Apr 13 10:28 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 10:28 |
| Techrights-sec | etc | Apr 13 10:28 |
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| schestowitz-TR | not surprise that he digs in deeper with his anti-Freedom stance against | Apr 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | regular computing | Apr 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | With restricted boot and TPM the end user is cut out of the loop | Apr 13 11:09 |
| Techrights-sec | not surprise that he digs in deeper with his anti-Freedom stance against | Apr 13 11:09 |
| Techrights-sec | regular computing | Apr 13 11:09 |
| Techrights-sec | With restricted boot and TPM the end user is cut out of the loop | Apr 13 11:09 |
| Techrights-sec | No point arguing with that shill though | Apr 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | No point arguing with that shill though | Apr 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, nothing has changed | Apr 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was gonna say [citation needed] | Apr 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | for FSF arguing that restricted boot | Apr 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | can be good | Apr 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe he mistook LF for FSF | Apr 13 11:10 |
| Techrights-sec | or he's just lying to troll better, as usual | Apr 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | <mjg59_> Techrights-sec: How is regular computing inhibited by this? | Apr 13 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | <mjg59_> Techrights-sec: Yo uh could you actually justify your claims here | Apr 13 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | trolls are best ignored | Apr 13 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I learned this in UNETENT around 2005 | Apr 13 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | when they provoked me | Apr 13 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | then I reacted | Apr 13 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and for years the reaction was taken out of context | Apr 13 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | tuxmachines is doing ok and the proxy runs OK too | Apr 13 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will monitor them during the day | Apr 13 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | as things changed a little | Apr 13 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | bte, the main irc channel is in chaos because of the provocateur | Apr 13 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | *btw | Apr 13 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | but let's not mind it | Apr 13 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | i tried using links to budge it back on constructive debates | Apr 13 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | not a war over UEFI/EFI | Apr 13 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | regarding python, i can only 'hack' on it | Apr 13 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I used to do a lot of C | Apr 13 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can cope with some other langs but need a refresher | Apr 13 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | the direction "modern" langs have taken | Apr 13 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | is apis and massive frameworks | Apr 13 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | that has cons and pros | Apr 13 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | like making "apps" fast | Apr 13 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | reminds me of MATLAB | Apr 13 11:39 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 11:39 |
| Techrights-sec | python is annoying, you cannot copy a list by using the = operator | Apr 13 11:39 |
| Techrights-sec | but must do a special function on the list | Apr 13 11:39 |
| Techrights-sec | don't feed the troll | Apr 13 11:39 |
| Techrights-sec | the language does not feel well design or fully thought out | Apr 13 11:39 |
| Techrights-sec | it's still worlds better than PHP though | Apr 13 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know, I was thinking the other night (did not sleep easily) | Apr 13 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's quit a miracle that given the pace of fake innovation | Apr 13 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | tuxmachines still uses a DB so old | Apr 13 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | without some DBMS and DBA | Apr 13 11:40 |
| Techrights-sec | GNU Octave? | Apr 13 11:40 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, that is becoming harder and not just for technical reasons | Apr 13 11:40 |
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| schestowitz-TR | icbm has a new buzzwords for it, which they use every day | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | "transformation | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes "modernisation" | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | they mean stuff like kubernetes | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | even for 2-machine clusters | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | once you do it you are adding a lot of extra baggage | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | for very little practical benefit | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | just tech vanity | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then you might end up buyiong support contract | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | side note, | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | small media a client of ours | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | defunct now btw | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | was using ansible | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | a colleague spent a lot of time learning it | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | around the time red hat took over | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's now feuding with my colleague who puts puppet everywhere | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and moans that he can no longer exercise the "skillz" he gained" | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | he also 'studied' (memorised) a lot of AWS | Apr 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | it beggars belief | Apr 13 11:43 |
| Techrights-sec | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law | Apr 13 11:44 |
| Techrights-sec | proprietary is always a losing proposition he should just suck it up and | Apr 13 11:44 |
| Techrights-sec | acknowledge there are sunken costs | Apr 13 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Parkinson's law - Wikipedia | Apr 13 11:44 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://time.com/5347133/sunk-cost-fallacy-decisions/ | Apr 13 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Sunk Cost Fallacy Is Ruining Your Decisions. Here's How | TIME | Apr 13 11:44 | |
| schestowitz-TR | imagine us "upgrading" to centos latest a couple of years back | Apr 13 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | many business did that | Apr 13 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and invested a lot based on the word of red hat | Apr 13 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | re long-term support, inc. backported kernels | Apr 13 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | they must have that for COMPLIANCE | Apr 13 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then it was like, "lol, real sorry, changed out minds, "STREAMS"" | Apr 13 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | corrolary: sometimes being "dumb" and "behind" and "dinobaby" | Apr 13 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | can be a bit of a compliment | Apr 13 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | this morning FDC was going on and on about his "luxury" car | Apr 13 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't laugh, he had very tough upbringing | Apr 13 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and how repairing modern cars would cost a fortune | Apr 13 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they would not last long anyway | Apr 13 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | "number of approved applications for access to TANF funding have been cut" https://www.projectcensored.org/states-hoard-federal | Apr 13 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/states-hoard-federal ) | Apr 13 11:50 | |
| schestowitz-TR | -assistive-funding-amidst-record-poverty-levels/ | Apr 13 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | > "Pensions are a form of payment wherein an employee accepts lower wages while working in exchange for a fund that accrues saving | Apr 13 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | s for their retirement" https://www.projectcensored.org/wall-street-leverages-working-class-pensions/ | Apr 13 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/wall-street-leverages-working-class-pensions/ ) | Apr 13 11:50 | |
| schestowitz-TR | plus inflation | Apr 13 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | the plan is to keep us eternally labouring | Apr 13 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | like in singapore | Apr 13 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | for banksters | Apr 13 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and fake "luxury" | Apr 13 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a shoebox with a bed and "smart" phone in it | Apr 13 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and SHOPPING MALLS! | Apr 13 11:50 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 11:51 |
| Techrights-sec | not just laboring but treading water so to speak so that the nose is never more | Apr 13 11:51 |
| Techrights-sec | than just barely above the surface | Apr 13 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | re an earlier point (that I had made about the hurt to our neighbours) | Apr 13 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | we talked about a bunch of things and how covid19 patents are not even | Apr 13 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | mentioned anywhere in the media | Apr 13 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of businesses here are shutting down | Apr 13 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne keeps reporting to me more and more that vanish | Apr 13 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and those desperate to send leaflets asking you to buy food | Apr 13 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | though it's too risky to go out to dine out | Apr 13 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | covid19 was used here to pass some anti-congregation laws | Apr 13 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | so activism will be digital | Apr 13 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | social control media is not controlled by us | Apr 13 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they will pass new laws to target t hose they cannot herd and gaslight | Apr 13 11:54 |
| Techrights-sec | last I checkee the downtown here was getting quite empty o the ground floor | Apr 13 11:55 |
| Techrights-sec | social control media prevents digital activism that is one reason it is pushed | Apr 13 11:55 |
| Techrights-sec | so heavily by the media and those that control the media | Apr 13 11:55 |
| Techrights-sec | I suppose soon self hosting will be illegal it is getting defacto illegal | Apr 13 11:55 |
| Techrights-sec | especially e-mail. | Apr 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | i had an illuminating comment in IRC the other day | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | by fisgosdev/matey | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was surprised we use the "real" wordpress | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik, techdirt marius nestor and many others parcelled off their sites | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | to wordpress.com | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is a convenient option there to buy or add your domain | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | then they more or less hide | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | wordpress.com is not a web host with wordpress | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's based on wordpress MU | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is a multi-tenanted instyanc | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you do not even get your own hosted wordpress | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | you get an account on some frankeninstall | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | so to fidosdev it was a shock we do drupal the old fashioned way | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, you know, actually putting the files there | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now just opening an account and giving credit card number | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | this led me to thinkning of the skills that would be lost | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that maybe expolains why my stupid employer | Apr 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | is deep-throating "clown" everything | Apr 13 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | Apr 13 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could go on and on, i literally VANISHED the techrights irc channel from sight | Apr 13 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | just to be able to focus on what matters | Apr 13 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's lots of marguing there atm | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | rioianne is meanwhile posting links, I will jump in after here (we try not to do it concurrently for fear of "dupes") | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | one advantage we have is that our operations are very portable and some are self-hosted from a home | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | in opur company, | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I joke with rianne a lot | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | after closing our office in july 2020 | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | we're nothing | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | we're just some fucking aws account and a bunch of idiots | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | with a few clueful people still sticking around | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a list of PAST clients | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | to be able to attract some new ones | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | based ona long-lost reputation | Apr 13 12:05 |
| Techrights-sec | opening an account, putting a credit card there and then opening incoming | Apr 13 12:05 |
| Techrights-sec | FTP for the root file system | Apr 13 12:05 |
| Techrights-sec | `excellent | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | >> FTP for the root file system | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | Welcome back, 1995 | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | Geocities | Apr 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | ot: you'd think for a person who thinks of himself or fancy himself tec hero | Apr 13 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | garrett would have much more pressing things to do than spend 3 hours | Apr 13 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | on a weekday, maybe 4am in the us, trolling an irc channel; | Apr 13 12:08 |
| Techrights-sec | an astroturfer by any other name | Apr 13 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | mention nsa or wikileaks or general-purpose computing and the troll gets | Apr 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | "triggered" and 'enabled' | Apr 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | must have some "reasonable" voice in fsf board too | Apr 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | to protect us from all those "radicals" like rms | Apr 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, and eff, for sure... barlow was friends with assange, that's like | Apr 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | being in hesbollah | Apr 13 12:12 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | around 7 years ago tor 'cleaned house' and in the name of "professionalism" | Apr 13 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | put some 'adults' in charge | Apr 13 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | to herd trhe cat and soon remove 35% of the coders | Apr 13 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | including public shaming of ioerror | Apr 13 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | he did try to make a comeback | Apr 13 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a swarm of threats came in twiyyer | Apr 13 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | he should have focused on his own site | Apr 13 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | not 105k followers or stalkers | Apr 13 12:15 |
| Techrights-sec | jake | Apr 13 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | corporate HQ: UEFI "disparaged"; threat detected at techrights channel at techrights network | Apr 13 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | dispatching agent | Apr 13 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | secure boot ENABLED. | Apr 13 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | threat mitigated | Apr 13 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the sake of 'balance' | Apr 13 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | (joe | Apr 13 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | (joke) | Apr 13 12:17 |
| Techrights-sec | klaxons sound | Apr 13 12:19 |
| Techrights-sec | that "both sides" crap is not about balance it is about propaganda though | Apr 13 12:19 |
| Techrights-sec | empirical facts are not equal weight to opinions or wishes | Apr 13 12:19 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Apr 13 12:21 | |
| schestowitz-TR | a balance between the truth and a lie is called "perception" | Apr 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is a product (or service) that manages this balance | Apr 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | billg is a frequent customer | Apr 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | twitter is one of the vendors to him | Apr 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now some big-mouth nsouth african gets to tweak #trending andother | Apr 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | aspects in that site | Apr 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | he take "the dive" | Apr 13 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | apparently | Apr 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | in daily links today and yesterday, automated stuff too, this is highlighted | Apr 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then again so much of the economy is based o closted insider trading | Apr 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now robbery of the savers' class | Apr 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | by inflation mostyl | Apr 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | 12% in one year in NL | Apr 13 12:23 |
| Techrights-sec | he appears to use it for financial manipulation, the SEC is too slow and toohless to interfere with him; | Apr 13 12:23 |
| Techrights-sec | yes it looks that way all around | Apr 13 12:23 |
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| schestowitz-TR | B | Apr 13 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | ruce Schneier pretends this is not about Microsoft Windows. But it is (.exe file). He's compromised to me.... https://www.schneier | Apr 13 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: www.schneier; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://www.schneier ) | Apr 13 14:31 | |
| schestowitz-TR | .com/blog/archives/2022/04/russian-cyberattack-against-ukrainian-power-grid-prevented.html | Apr 13 14:31 |
| Techrights-sec | I just saw that. It's more windoze tco which he has become part of the problem | Apr 13 14:31 |
| Techrights-sec | by trying to dress it up as a wider problem. | Apr 13 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I put the original in Daily Links yesterday along with Editorial comment. EXE, Windows, Bruce spins that... | Apr 13 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | At least Bruce has not yet contratulated Microsoft for saviing Ukraine from Russsian aggression | Apr 13 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | give him time.. | Apr 13 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.eu/FOSSForce/status/1514237473622216704#m | Apr 13 14:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | FOSS Force (@FOSSForce): "Ruby Patches Important Bugs | Tux Machines https://buff.ly/3M1Acik" | nitter | Apr 13 14:45 | |
| Techrights-sec | probably soon | Apr 13 14:47 |
| Techrights-sec | m$ creates the problem situation itself and then gets credit for pretending | Apr 13 14:47 |
| Techrights-sec | to clean it up; If they were in any way serious, Ukraine would move fully | Apr 13 14:47 |
| Techrights-sec | to FreeBSD and GNU/Linux or better OpenBSD | Apr 13 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | the media deserts won't tell us what goes on | Apr 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | Dan Goodin will shitpost for Conde | Apr 13 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and Brucie will swallow that up | Apr 13 14:48 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | Mumble is an open-source VoIP application Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163677 | Apr 13 14:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Mumble is an open-source VoIP application | Tux Machines | Apr 13 14:52 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 14:53 |
| Techrights-sec | there are some features on that list which I had not read of before | Apr 13 14:53 |
| Techrights-sec | LF is dirt | Apr 13 15:17 |
| Techrights-sec | but then that appears to the main goal of the principals involved | Apr 13 15:17 |
| Techrights-sec | Why else would vmware, M$ and the others join the board if not to | Apr 13 15:17 |
| Techrights-sec | subvert and dilute the GPL and Linux | Apr 13 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:37] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2019/08/29/linux-foundation-swag/ | Apr 13 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:37] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- techrights.org | Linux Foundation Swag, Corrected Edition | Techrights | Apr 13 15:33 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Swag, Corrected Edition | Techrights | Apr 13 15:33 | |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:37] <matey> does it mention which hotel? | Apr 13 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:38] <schestowitz-TR> maybe | Apr 13 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:38] <schestowitz-TR> I forgot | Apr 13 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:38] <schestowitz-TR> some expensive one | Apr 13 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:38] <matey> /me checks to see if his text copy has that one | Apr 13 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:38] <schestowitz-TR> like radisson or hilton | Apr 13 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:38] <schestowitz-TR> to keep the "smelly hippies" out | Apr 13 15:33 |
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| schestowitz-TR | Testing Figures Diminish to Lowest Since 2020 as Government Strategy Morphs Into COVID Denial (COVIDiots in Charge) | Apr 13 15:53 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 15:53 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Apr 13 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'kill people, not the economy" | Apr 13 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | "without people, there's no econony" | Apr 13 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | (not actual quotes) | Apr 13 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, with NHS getting privatised | Apr 13 15:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | all those people who are disabled will be returning customers | Apr 13 15:55 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | from experience at work | Apr 13 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | colleagues get re-infected | Apr 13 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | or jsut catch other diseases more than before | Apr 13 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne gets many extra shifts | Apr 13 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | one tomorrow, daytime, too | Apr 13 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think immune systems get weakened by both the virus and the jab | Apr 13 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | there were stufied to that effect | Apr 13 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that seems suppressed in the media | Apr 13 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | "media deserts" | Apr 13 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | --- | Apr 13 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | f'ing s-, more of the blogs i subed to for linux news turn to 100% spam | Apr 13 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I don't know whether to delete them, in case they turn back around | Apr 13 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | the issue I have is, | Apr 13 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if they suddenly post some unix/linus "content" | Apr 13 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | linking to them would sending in circulation for the spam | Apr 13 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if it's like 50%+ spam (even 90%), then what am I doing? | Apr 13 15:59 |
| Techrights-sec | For feeds like that, I shunt them into a separate bookmark folder and ignore | Apr 13 16:02 |
| Techrights-sec | them for a /very/ long time and then check on them at some point much later | Apr 13 16:02 |
| Techrights-sec | not very many, in fact none so far, have recovered and been worth moving back | Apr 13 16:02 |
| Techrights-sec | to the main set of feeds / bookmarks | Apr 13 16:02 |
| Techrights-sec | If it's mostly spam then even if they have occasional bait, don't take risk | Apr 13 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have just disabled updates | Apr 13 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | not that I give much of a f about gulag and "search" | Apr 13 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they can also penalise if linked to | Apr 13 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | as a sort of deranking by association | Apr 13 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | am i crazy or is the news very very very slow? | Apr 13 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know the weekend coming up is long | Apr 13 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but in past years the news did not slow until thurs | Apr 13 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot find topics to actually cover | Apr 13 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I try | Apr 13 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but this is like wtf? | Apr 13 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | epo also | Apr 13 16:08 |
| Techrights-sec | very very very very slow these days, it has slowed down further in recent weeks | Apr 13 16:08 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | Apr 13 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | probably more "journalists" are wasting hours and days in social control media | Apr 13 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | lost from reality | Apr 13 16:10 |
| Techrights-sec | probably more "journalists" are wasting hours and days in social control media | Apr 13 16:10 |
| Techrights-sec | lost from reality | Apr 13 16:10 |
| Techrights-sec | ? | Apr 13 16:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have other explanations | Apr 13 16:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | thinking | Apr 13 16:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | while posting linskt o rianne's posts in TM | Apr 13 16:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's start with this | Apr 13 16:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | we are part of the issue now | Apr 13 16:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | as we do not post much | Apr 13 16:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | then we ask, why? | Apr 13 16:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a chain effect | Apr 13 16:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | someone needs to 'seed' stories | Apr 13 16:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | wikileaks is dead, but not offically | Apr 13 16:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, lack of viable media lowers the incentive to break news | Apr 13 16:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if would hardly get noticed | Apr 13 16:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | the media wrotew a lot abotu epo in 2015 | Apr 13 16:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | also cited us | Apr 13 16:17 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 16:17 |
| Techrights-sec | well infrasdtructure (word press etc) are getting exponentially complex | Apr 13 16:17 |
| Techrights-sec | oh. primary versus secondary and lesser sources | Apr 13 16:17 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | Apr 13 16:17 |
| Techrights-sec | but there have been several rounds of consolidations, layoffs, and shutdowns | Apr 13 16:17 |
| Techrights-sec | since 205 | Apr 13 16:17 |
| Techrights-sec | 2015 | Apr 13 16:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | consolidatiob begets coordination such as media blackout | Apr 13 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | this morning, from daily links, I got a simialr explanation about inflation | Apr 13 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | the food giants control and can price-fix key products | Apr 13 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | once you have no alternative to their sodas or whatever | Apr 13 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's a well orchestrated move while regimes sit on their palms | Apr 13 16:19 |
| schestowitz | note dates: | Apr 13 16:21 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theregister.com/Author/Kieren-McCarthy/ | Apr 13 16:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Kieren McCarthy • The Register | Apr 13 16:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.theregister.com/Author/Tim-Anderson | Apr 13 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Tim Anderson • The Register | Apr 13 16:22 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Kieren helped a lot in drawing attention to EPO and UPC scandsals | Apr 13 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | not only in the UK as English is widely understood | Apr 13 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | he also wasn't soft on Microsoft | Apr 13 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's a guy I met here for coffee as he covered EPO issues | Apr 13 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was around the time EPO was going very hardball on the media | Apr 13 16:23 |
| Techrights-sec | that was the BBC article which got spiked? | Apr 13 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | different guy. WHo also wrote for Bill's guardian. | Apr 13 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | and RMS's mentor | Apr 13 16:24 |
| Techrights-sec | So THe Register pulled the plug on Kieren | Apr 13 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | the register hired sjvn | Apr 13 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he only appears there once in a few weeks | Apr 13 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | last article this morning | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | pro-"Linux" | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | they also hired Liam | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | who covers FOSS for them | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's a net positive actually | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | Anderson's cocky "FOSS" coverage was Microsoft shilling | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe he got busy doing other things like Microsoft Peter | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | pizza and stuff (just kidding, not nice) | Apr 13 16:27 |
| Techrights-sec | I doubt SJVN will ahve the opportunity to redeem himself. Same for The Register | Apr 13 16:27 |
| Techrights-sec | They will not return to the pre-2002 sharp edge they once had | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | those were very different time for | Apr 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) the web | Apr 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) the economy | Apr 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3) access to media (social control media was not a think, yet) | Apr 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4) many publishers were supported financially by | Apr 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) printed publication | Apr 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) future promises, about the promise of the web, hence investors | Apr 13 16:29 |
| Techrights-sec | back then one couldn't even skim more than a tiny fraction of headdlines | Apr 13 16:29 |
| Techrights-sec | in 2 hours | Apr 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, i sort of fondly remember those time | Apr 13 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | sot of | Apr 13 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | as sometimes I felt a litrle drowneed | Apr 13 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | info overload | Apr 13 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | not you can manage to see all the "important" thing | Apr 13 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then you see more people linking to the same thing | Apr 13 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you realise, "it's a small world (wide web)" | Apr 13 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but here isa key things | Apr 13 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it benfits shills like Microsoft | Apr 13 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and reckless orgs like epoo | Apr 13 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it is cheaper for them to manage the image | Apr 13 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | wikipedia+few publishers that still piss at the wind | Apr 13 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and maybe some employees who stroll and troll social control media | Apr 13 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe buy some ads in twitter | Apr 13 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | get them to censor for you | Apr 13 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | "sponsored trends" are thing in Twitter | Apr 13 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft buys some of them | Apr 13 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | the indfian official was right | Apr 13 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | some terending is literally ads | Apr 13 16:33 |
| Techrights-sec | yes the small scale means that they need to buy fewer sites to purchase | Apr 13 16:33 |
| Techrights-sec | significant percentages of influence | Apr 13 16:33 |
| Techrights-sec | Wikipedia is not much more than an edit war | Apr 13 16:33 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | Apr 13 16:33 |
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| Techrights-sec | HTML5 is quite a poor idea, too. | Apr 13 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec | Javascript is worst because of the maintenacnce nightmares it adds to the other | Apr 13 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec | problems like running programs of unknown origin on your computer as if | Apr 13 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec | the browser were a VM | Apr 13 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | am adjusting noisetorch | Apr 13 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that IU can play the RMS talk on one machine | Apr 13 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and record my reaction to it | Apr 13 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | on the other | Apr 13 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it stands, mixing two people or audio sources does not work | Apr 13 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | well with noisetorch as it tries to cancel one | Apr 13 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | but if it's turned off then you can hear background hum | Apr 13 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | the two is 2pm boston time, so I assume 7pm here, 2 hours | Apr 13 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec | interesting | Apr 13 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec | That's in an hour? | Apr 13 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec | or two? | Apr 13 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | i thought of this in the kitchen, I think | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I want to clarify | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are things RMS won't be "allowed" to say | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | we discussed this today in IRC | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I can try to complete some gaps | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | as a side note | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | it may take a while for them to upload the talk | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if I talk back, then it is fair use | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | nothing disrespectful | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am trying to get the logistics right | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a sony headphone set from the new laptop lying on the other laptop while I talk in front of it | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | if I want to fit in the image of him talking (I think it's spurious, just another man with webcam) | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | lips movings, mine do too | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe I can shift to the screen after a while and show stuff in the browser while talking | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | if the core talk is 1 hour and then q a follows, upload won't take long | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe 2 hours | Apr 13 17:16 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 17:16 |
| Techrights-sec | sometimes the questions are actually appropriate and thoughtful | Apr 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, but they would prolong the recording and the prepared talk is what he properly invested effort | Apr 13 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | in. So better to respond to the final product, like assessing a paper rather than | Apr 13 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | some unfinished product | Apr 13 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | with prepared talk he cannot argue he was caught "off guard" | Apr 13 17:18 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 17:18 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | Apr 13 17:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not look into the noisetorch algo | Apr 13 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it is very very unsuitable for multiple voices | Apr 13 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | all I wanted to do is a threshold being set for removal of 'whitenoise' | Apr 13 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead it tries to find one sound/voice source, then isolated it | Apr 13 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would be OK if people did not spead 'on top' of each other or at the | Apr 13 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | same time | Apr 13 17:22 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Apr 13 17:24 |
| Techrights-sec | what about one voice per channel? | Apr 13 17:24 |
| Techrights-sec | are there different channels for RMS and the others or are theu all jumbled | Apr 13 17:24 |
| Techrights-sec | up into one and the same track? | Apr 13 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | logistical nightmare because unless yolu use JACK or similar you end up having to load two file | Apr 13 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | in a video/audio editor, then mixing them | Apr 13 17:24 |
| Techrights-sec | the streaming should start soon but there is only a placeholder on the | Apr 13 17:55 |
| Techrights-sec | web page... | Apr 13 17:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I have sharted the link in irc | Apr 13 17:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | the webm | Apr 13 17:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | and noted that it's not up yet | Apr 13 17:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | also see my draft\ | Apr 13 17:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | iv'e adjusted the volume a bit to balance the two voices | Apr 13 17:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | assuming they choose "nmormal" volume level | Apr 13 17:55 |
| Techrights-sec | does not seem to work in FF | Apr 13 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | "The FSF is a charity with a worldwide mission to advance software freedom" | Apr 13 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have added ogg audio link | Apr 13 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is working already | Apr 13 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I play it int he background as it will tell me when the footage starts | Apr 13 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | FF works ok for me, but no video yet as it 404s | Apr 13 18:05 |
| Techrights-sec | The Low-Resolution link plays in FF | Apr 13 18:06 |
| Techrights-sec | https://live.fsf.org/rms-libreplanet-2022-lowres.webm | Apr 13 18:10 |
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| TechrightsBN | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.77 | Apr 13 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | ack | Apr 13 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | the academic quarter has come and gone, now he is onto the double quarter ... | Apr 13 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec | the academic quarter has come and gone, now he is onto the double quarter ... | Apr 13 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:06] <schestowitz-TR> and working | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:06] <matey> still 4040 here | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:08] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-the-state-of-the-free-software-movement/ | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:08] <schestowitz> cjchanged url in http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-the-state-of-the-free-software-movement/ | Apr 13 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Richard Stallman’s Talk (Livestream) | Techrights | Apr 13 18:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:08] <schestowitz> nowq it plays | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | 18:23] <schestowitz-TR> I am going to adjust the fonts in Konversation | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:24] <schestowitz-TR> to make it more visible | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:17] <schestowitz-TR> if this channel is active | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:18] <schestowitz-TR> and people watch and respond | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:18] <schestowitz-TR> then we'll have a video or RMS talking | Apr 13 18:32 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 13 18:32 |
| Techrights-sec | with the delay, I probably won't be able to watch the whole thing live, | Apr 13 18:32 |
| Techrights-sec | perhaps I should just wait to see if they publish it later | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:18] <schestowitz-TR> and you responding to him in IRC | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will start recording soon | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will focus on the IRC channel | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | But may use the browser too | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | increased font sizes | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | totally experimental | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | had to set output to 150% volume on the headphone | Apr 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | historically, his online talks started later than scheduled | Apr 13 18:33 |
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