●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, May 13, 2022 ●● ● May 13 [02:25] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:27] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 13 [04:44] Techrights-sec deduplicated yesterday's HTML IRC logs ● May 13 [05:07] Techrights-sec does irclog2html.py have UTF-8 problems? [05:07] Techrights-sec ^scratch that. looking elsewhere [05:07] Techrights-sec fixed [05:08] schestowitz-TR gm [05:08] schestowitz-TR I may have overslept a bit [05:08] schestowitz-TR mild headache [05:08] schestowitz-TR not de to stress [05:08] schestowitz-TR there was no stress at all [05:08] Techrights-sec gm [05:08] Techrights-sec np [05:08] Techrights-sec stress from yesterday? light workout usually helps [05:08] Techrights-sec good [05:13] schestowitz-TR today the plan is to cycle and bring back food 'downhill' [05:13] schestowitz-TR because it should be nice and sunny [05:13] schestowitz-TR and I want to be out more [05:13] schestowitz-TR I should stiill be able to produce a lot [05:13] schestowitz-TR this is consideered exercise [05:13] schestowitz-TR I need ti kearn where I can shave off time, other than sleep [05:13] schestowitz-TR sleeping too little tends to cause headache after a bit [05:13] schestowitz-TR and the only way to make them go away is make up the hours [05:14] Techrights-sec nice [05:14] Techrights-sec sleep and exercise cannot be skimped on, food sometimes depending on the balance [05:14] schestowitz-TR food is not the issue and we still find good prices [05:14] schestowitz-TR that might come in handy is we halve our working hours [05:14] schestowitz-TR *if [05:24] Techrights-sec ack [05:24] Techrights-sec should the Misinformation/Disinformation heading become [05:24] Techrights-sec Misinformation/Disinformation/Propaganda ? [05:24] schestowitz-TR I think that would overlap "Astro>Turf [05:25] Techrights-sec ok, should Propaganda be explicitly in Astroturf ? there is kind of a grey area [05:25] Techrights-sec between the astroturf and disinformation some stuff falls into both [05:25] Techrights-sec it's been a growing problem for some weeks [05:26] schestowitz-TR Maybe we should refactor these and make more categs [05:26] schestowitz-TR like misinformation [05:26] schestowitz-TR being separate from prpopagnada/disinof [05:26] schestowitz-TR and politics being its own categ [05:27] Techrights-sec ok [05:28] schestowitz-TR one area of improvement, which I don;t think would affect any existing code, is dynamic insec at [05:28] schestowitz-TR the top for html, it still uses an old static one [05:28] schestowitz-TR in lagrance it can have bookmarks for the page, based on the headings [05:29] Techrights-sec yes the head can be changed. So an index with internal links would be helpful? [05:30] schestowitz-TR currently it has in it categs that used to be always occupied, but it was speculative [05:30] schestowitz-TR around 2008 [05:31] Techrights-sec Oh, perhaps it could be an index generated based on which categories actually [05:31] Techrights-sec have content? [05:33] schestowitz-TR yes, but I never went as far as implementing thisa [05:33] schestowitz-TR and until years ago the background still says "boycott novell" in dimmed colours [05:33] schestowitz-TR some sites tried to imitate these daily links [05:33] schestowitz-TR before realising it was too much work to maintain on a daily basis [05:33] schestowitz-TR for us it's part of the frowl looking for topic to cover [05:35] Techrights-sec yes [05:37] schestowitz-TR it also does, in general, makes you a better informed citizen [05:38] schestowitz-TR which can help you avoid many perils in life [05:38] schestowitz-TR (rianne watches "too much" gulagtube... mostly harmful channels... but the [05:38] schestowitz-TR "recommended" over time steer her towards clickbair utter junk) [05:38] schestowitz-TR *harmless I meant [05:38] schestowitz-TR not harmful [05:38] schestowitz-TR gulagtube steers her towards the harmful ones [05:38] Techrights-sec yes youtube pushes constantly, there is always a risk of getting warn down [05:38] Techrights-sec I use it too much (meaning still even at all) but nearly 100% of the time [05:38] Techrights-sec it is when following a specific external link to a specific video decided [05:38] Techrights-sec in advance [05:40] schestowitz-TR I have to lookm away or almost shuit my eyes if I enter the front page to enter some search phrase [05:40] schestowitz-TR this means their interface is neither useful nor healthy [05:40] schestowitz-TR twitter is a lot like this too [05:40] schestowitz-TR "I come here ONLY to do X" [05:40] schestowitz-TR "stop messing with my head" [05:40] Techrights-sec yes I don't look at twitter at all [05:40] Techrights-sec if it is like youtube it is hard to avoid seeing the thumbnails for the [05:40] Techrights-sec "recommendations" [05:42] schestowitz-TR in twitter and gulagtube you need to place the browser window about 300pixels to the outside of the raster [05:42] schestowitz-TR depending on screen resolution as they have a "fluid" design [05:42] schestowitz-TR so it's not even predictable [05:42] schestowitz-TR in old rekonq I wrote some rules to just eliminate those sections [05:42] schestowitz-TR but browsers and sites keep changing [05:45] schestowitz-TR you know they go too far where you have the digital equiv of "what did I come to the kitchen for??" [05:46] Techrights-sec it is that way on purpose. when that happens I close the tab to avoid [05:46] Techrights-sec playing into their trap [05:47] schestowitz-TR invidious reproduced a little bit of this behavious (sidebar, front page) [05:47] schestowitz-TR but it's free software [05:47] schestowitz-TR though I did not see instances thst change this default behaviour [05:52] Techrights-sec yes [05:52] Techrights-sec I think I see a way to do the Table of Contents [05:52] Techrights-sec It would use an id attribute in each heading and then harvest those from [05:52] Techrights-sec the non-empty nodes [05:54] schestowitz-TR that would be an improvement [05:54] schestowitz-TR iirc, in gemtext the section with these gets lumped into the main text [05:54] schestowitz-TR an even super-duper version will also count
  • under a section, somehow, then add a number in [05:54] schestowitz-TR brackets [05:58] schestowitz-TR "As enforced by these corporate apparatchiks of Managerialism, university academics are obliged to compete by means of publishing in the so-called top journals, and to stockpile (quantity over quality) ever greater numbers of publications than their peers." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/12/academentia-and-managerialism/ | Source: Counter Punch [05:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Academentia and Managerialism - CounterPunch.org [05:59] schestowitz-TR IME, many publish the same crap over and over again ● May 13 [06:00] schestowitz-TR with small tweaks of newer bits tucked in [06:00] schestowitz-TR to game the system [06:00] schestowitz-TR publcation and research are not the same thing [06:00] schestowitz-TR it's like assessing a workout based on number of reps [06:00] schestowitz-TR or a relationship based on total income [06:01] schestowitz-TR (few people even bother readon these papers in full, lecturing means greater audience than [06:01] schestowitz-TR some paper with 100 views of the abstract and 10 views of the actual paper, which month later is [06:01] schestowitz-TR "old") [06:02] Techrights-sec looking [06:03] schestowitz-TR I'd rather do NOC than academia [06:03] schestowitz-TR I used to do both in tandem [06:03] schestowitz-TR one was vastly easier [06:03] Techrights-sec yes there are few decent ones mostly just filler [06:04] schestowitz-TR what I do not like is, if they ask me to do project work and programming for ther salary of NOX [06:04] schestowitz-TR that's what we thought would happen [06:04] schestowitz-TR and so we decided to leave [06:04] schestowitz-TR but not it is negotable [06:04] schestowitz-TR *now [06:09] Techrights-sec project work is another price category [06:11] schestowitz-TR but wait :-) [06:11] schestowitz-TR it's also weekend/overnight [06:11] schestowitz-TR while there is potential for distraction like alerts or calls [06:11] schestowitz-TR to me, noc means noc [06:11] schestowitz-TR you want projects/coding? [06:11] schestowitz-TR send me another contract [06:11] schestowitz-TR I am being to be "on-call" and write a short report and triage things [06:11] schestowitz-TR sometimes invetigate or intervene [06:12] Techrights-sec yep [06:12] schestowitz-TR by intervention I mean soemtimes like "restart jboss" if some alert seen and can be confirmed as true positive [06:18] Techrights-sec ack [06:18] schestowitz-TR "if you are so smart, how come your salary is like this?" [06:18] schestowitz-TR -Person who works 60-70 hours a week, grilling a person who carely works 6 a week [06:21] Techrights-sec ack [06:21] Techrights-sec it's a common misperception [06:22] schestowitz-TR (I am referring to siblings here) [06:22] schestowitz-TR (fwiw, my barely educated mother assumes people study things just for a job, i.e. for money) [06:22] schestowitz-TR (thankfully my dad, who never went to university, is not that shallow, so I'm not on my own) [06:22] schestowitz-TR regarding exercise, since I open up to personal things atm, lately I used he stairs a lot [06:22] schestowitz-TR sets are sprints to uppser floor, sometimes with shotput ball at hand [06:22] schestowitz-TR it's good cardio interval training (downstairs=interval) [06:26] schestowitz-TR psychological life hack [06:26] schestowitz-TR put backpack on [06:26] schestowitz-TR make the mission to make the workout proftable [06:26] schestowitz-TR by carrying discounts back [06:26] schestowitz-TR then count the savings as profit [06:26] schestowitz-TR if there is a lot to carry, and you sweat, that's "good workout" [06:26] schestowitz-TR when we still went to the gym (we stopped around May 20 2021) we'd use the trip back home [06:26] schestowitz-TR to hunt for food [06:26] schestowitz-TR sometimes also discounted things for the home like a 10 pound wine rack (original was like 50 pounds) [06:26] schestowitz-TR we bought so many things in those years and can now use the many spares for decades, or use them as gifts [06:26] schestowitz-TR if you can save 200 a month on food, think of that as two work shifts (16 hours) you need not do [06:31] schestowitz-TR I hope current discount rates last [06:31] schestowitz-TR we can still find those [06:32] schestowitz-TR but the searching has to extend further [06:32] schestowitz-TR like casting a wider net for the same "catch" [06:32] schestowitz-TR igf you save 1000-2000 a year, just by shopping "smarter", then means less labour is required [06:32] schestowitz-TR labour => capital => "stored labour" (desposits) [06:32] schestowitz-TR spendings/income ratio= pace of desposits [06:32] schestowitz-TR the goal is not to overdo them, like falling into the "game" people shame you into [06:32] schestowitz-TR which is likely harder - LOL - if you don't know how to access social control media inc. GulagTube [06:32] schestowitz-TR GulagTube became so bad that even without the web interface you would get far too many ads [06:32] schestowitz-TR for now, librewold zaps them all (I think) [06:32] schestowitz-TR better ask rianne, I typically just use yewtu.be [06:33] Techrights-sec yes [06:38] schestowitz-TR Pedophilia is a real issue. No need to make it a partisan issue though. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/gop-pedophilia-smear-incitement/ | Source: The Nation [06:38] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | The GOP's Pedophilia Smears Are An Incitement to Violence | The Nation [06:38] schestowitz-TR Climate change => politicised [06:38] schestowitz-TR Undoing unwanted conception => politicised [06:38] schestowitz-TR what next? [06:41] Techrights-sec everything is politicized, [06:41] Techrights-sec the election committee which made illegal deals with Iran to bring the world [06:41] Techrights-sec the Reagan administration turned that aspect of health care into a political [06:41] Techrights-sec footbal [06:41] Techrights-sec football [06:45] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:45] schestowitz-TR speaking of which, this weekend "our team" (200m from us) can secure its season win [06:45] schestowitz-TR cementing the lead [06:46] schestowitz-TR we'll cycle past the stadium, later [06:46] schestowitz-TR aftter rianne finishes gardening [06:46] schestowitz-TR cultivating the soil for the neighbours' cats [06:46] schestowitz-TR to poo in [06:46] schestowitz-TR "our team" is currently tanked 2ns in the world [06:46] schestowitz-TR *ranked [06:46] schestowitz-TR after bayern munich [06:46] schestowitz-TR when we moved here it was barely in top 10 [06:46] schestowitz-TR but the oil tycoons from UAE sank lots of money into it [06:46] schestowitz-TR same way KSA does now with NUFC [06:46] schestowitz-TR [05:56] KSA sportswashing... and now buying Twitter via MusKSA https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/12/ [06:46] schestowitz-TR greg-norman-saudi-arabias-sportswashing-emissary/ | Source: Counter Punch [06:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-May 12, 2022 - CounterPunch.org [06:46] Techrights-sec KSA appears to be on a reputation laundering mission, and getting too much [06:46] Techrights-sec complicity in covering up past and present crimes [06:51] schestowitz-TR that appeals to the masses who worship money, no matter how it's made and what follows it [06:51] schestowitz-TR like war and stuf [06:51] schestowitz-TR you cannot deny it, sportwashing works [06:51] schestowitz-TR and places/businesses that get this money do benefit [06:51] schestowitz-TR but the problem is, it perpetuates a cycle [06:51] schestowitz-TR where many are in fact the losers [06:51] schestowitz-TR currently we try to lower the bills [06:51] schestowitz-TR esp. energy [06:51] schestowitz-TR only exception is PCs, but they are all laptops with savings (modes) turned on [06:51] Techrights-sec many worship only money [06:51] schestowitz-TR 8 working 24/7, mine provide enough light so the bulbs are rarely needed [06:51] schestowitz-TR and in winter some heat too is produced if I can seal off a room and then body heat too factors in [06:51] schestowitz-TR in winter I might go in the same room as rianne as heat is easier to conserve this way [06:51] schestowitz-TR it took me less than one houir to move everything here, I clocked it ntentionally [06:53] schestowitz-TR people who worship ONLY money (or mostly money) are playing a stupid sport [06:53] schestowitz-TR and later in life they realise that you cannot bring that money with you to "heaven" [06:53] schestowitz-TR nor can you buy youth or health with it [06:53] schestowitz-TR doing your hobbies when you are 67 is dumb [06:53] schestowitz-TR some can barely walk around in places abroad [06:54] schestowitz-TR my mom already struggles in flights due to her knees [06:54] Techrights-sec not so much a sport as LARPing [06:54] Techrights-sec https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-larping-live-action-role-playing-steampunk-aurum-larp-2018-10 [06:54] Techrights-sec shared fantasy /delusion [06:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.businessinsider.com | What Is LARPing (Live Action Role Playing)? [06:55] schestowitz-TR nice analogy [06:55] schestowitz-TR I like the saying (and show) we have here, "Only Fools and Horses" [06:55] schestowitz-TR (I guess you know what follows [06:58] schestowitz-TR New: "As to why I haven't left yet? Because it seems this Agile movement has invaded everywhere and things would be more of the same elsewhere. At least here, I'm not forced to use Windows [4]." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/12.1" [06:59] Techrights-sec yep [06:59] Techrights-sec btw check the new merged links for today, it has an automatically generated [06:59] Techrights-sec table of contents [06:59] Techrights-sec if that is the way it should be then next step will be to get that into the [06:59] Techrights-sec work flow [06:59] Techrights-sec ack ● May 13 [07:02] schestowitz-TR a) there are ways to contribute to society other than jobs [07:02] schestowitz-TR (some jobs are BS). Good banks, activism... [07:02] schestowitz-TR b) I will check the table of contents in a moment, it'll show up in tmux soon [07:02] schestowitz-TR c) something I forgot while typing a and b, but it wasn't important anyway [07:02] schestowitz-TR I akm chasing daily linkaa atm with gemini on the side [07:02] schestowitz-TR matey is very active in the main channel and is on topic [07:02] Techrights-sec that's great news about IRC [07:03] schestowitz-TR irc's problem is not the loss of time [07:03] schestowitz-TR but the loss of focus [07:03] schestowitz-TR and why I muted dfc [07:03] schestowitz-TR he's the equivalent of social control media GUIs (web UIs) [07:06] schestowitz-TR ot-ish: yesterday's meeting was using the self-serving lies about the health of the company [07:06] schestowitz-TR but you could sense they tried hard to keep everyone onboard (not all companies are like that) [07:06] schestowitz-TR maybe because the external HR agency cautioned them about cost of compensation [07:06] schestowitz-TR but either way, this is the first such meeting in 3 years [07:06] schestowitz-TR and now without physical office they cannot waste our time on train journeys [07:10] schestowitz-TR rianne and I were 110 mins on call, spent similar length of time discussing outcome [07:10] schestowitz-TR reduction of hours likely the way forward, but to keep pension and employement record, plus [07:10] schestowitz-TR reduction of tax deduction, both of us to stay onboard [07:10] schestowitz-TR at reduced capacity [07:10] schestowitz-TR which is something we thought about doing years ago anyway [07:10] schestowitz-TR whhen I started in the company 11+ years ago I covered only Sat and Sun [07:11] Techrights-sec TOC generation is now integrated into the work flow [07:20] schestowitz-TR excellent! [07:20] schestowitz-TR I might soon work towards getting the publication patterns off wordpress [07:20] schestowitz-TR at least partly [07:20] schestowitz-TR the CMS treadmill "innovation" (so-called) means higher technical debt [07:20] schestowitz-TR techdirt imprisoned itself in wordpressDOTCOM [07:20] schestowitz-TR the bulletins, ipfs, gemini and others are a stepping stone towards where we want to be [07:20] schestowitz-TR I tried gnunet but it's alphaware at this point [07:20] schestowitz-TR with gemini, the site is just tar -opt [direction], untar /tar -xf directory, then add demon of choice [07:20] schestowitz-TR like vget in openbsd, which is just hundreds of LOCs iirc and open port [07:20] schestowitz-TR but it does not have widepsread adoption yet and dealing with attachment is hard [07:20] schestowitz-TR I hope that will change in due course [07:20] schestowitz-TR I stopped making material ABOUT gemini [07:20] schestowitz-TR Disinformation https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/meet-the-head-of-bidens-new-disinformation-governing-board/ [07:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | Meet the Head of Bidens New Disinformation Governing Board | The Nation [07:20] schestowitz-TR this is what worries me [07:20] schestowitz-TR CAs aside, it seems like [07:20] schestowitz-TR 1) social control media gatekeepers , e.g. "hacker" "news" [07:20] schestowitz-TR 2) sofwtare designed to block/suppress some sites [07:20] schestowitz-TR 3) balkanised Web, GOVERNMENT-imposed blacklists, amybe ISPs to join [07:20] schestowitz-TR to "prtect us" [07:20] schestowitz-TR we don't need to wait until the "showdown" [07:20] schestowitz-TR kriakou (cia whistleblower; we used to interact online) warns that this is about shutting off [07:20] schestowitz-TR "undesirable" voices like his [07:20] schestowitz-TR at one point only RT would consider him "permissible" [07:20] schestowitz-TR and CONSORTRIUM NEWS [07:20] schestowitz-TR and now they crack down on those, too [07:20] schestowitz-TR and those who appeared in RT have "splaining" top do [07:21] schestowitz-TR I meant vger earlier, not vget [07:21] schestowitz-TR it probably lacks many features [07:21] schestowitz-TR but the complexity of those things is very low, a bit like irc pre v.3 [07:22] Techrights-sec yes it's happening on both sides of the Atlantic [07:22] Techrights-sec however only a tiny amount of politicians even act aware of the problem [07:22] Techrights-sec they could probably be counted on one hand, and then to make it worse, [07:22] Techrights-sec only a subset ofthose is activng [07:22] Techrights-sec vger requires one bit of very specialized knowledge to get running [07:22] Techrights-sec for those that know it, it is deads simple to set up [07:22] Techrights-sec for those that lack the background it is a non-starter [07:24] schestowitz-TR few remaining politicians are tech-savvy [07:24] schestowitz-TR and some of the experts they recruit are microsofters [07:24] schestowitz-TR seems like patrick breyer might be the exception [07:24] schestowitz-TR but among "establishment" politicians his party is regarded a laughing stock [07:24] schestowitz-TR (the name never helped, even as tongue-in-cheeck) [07:28] schestowitz-TR "darknet" = something we cannot control [07:28] schestowitz-TR "shitcoin" = also something we cannot control, but that does not make it virtuous [07:28] schestowitz-TR "shitcoin scams in the darknet" = associating scams and crime with thge former [07:28] schestowitz-TR where the name, "darknet", does not help either [07:28] schestowitz-TR www = FB [07:28] schestowitz-TR self-hosted WWW = LOL!!! YOUR SHITTTY SITE LOOKS SO 90s!!! LOL!!! And no "valid" cert... [07:28] schestowitz-TR what about privacy??? Says the person froma a TWITTER account, running a pileshit of JS [07:28] schestowitz-TR just to render 140 chars of shitpost [07:28] schestowitz-TR in an account that demands 2FA with phone number an "APPS" that transmits location throughout [07:28] schestowitz-TR the day [07:29] Techrights-sec they're not experts only sales teams and lobbyists posing as experts [07:29] Techrights-sec the policitians like that because it is familiar and they get campaign money [07:29] Techrights-sec self-hosed will soon be defacto illegal; self-signed certificates have been [07:29] Techrights-sec dropped from some libraries and modules, not just the major browsers [07:29] Techrights-sec surveillance is one of the objectives common to both industry and government [07:31] schestowitz-TR GOVERNMENT-FUNDED "industry" [07:31] schestowitz-TR you saw my link from yesterday [07:31] schestowitz-TR if the tech giants fail, the taxpayers will bail "big tech" like they do "big banks" [07:31] schestowitz-TR if the US goes under [07:31] schestowitz-TR China will do the same [07:31] schestowitz-TR it is about "national interest", not "job creation" [07:31] schestowitz-TR the high-paid workers are riding tax money and national debt [07:31] Techrights-sec yes [07:32] schestowitz-TR I like to use the term "doping" [07:32] schestowitz-TR like business that net VC money [07:32] schestowitz-TR and quickly waste that on gradeur [07:32] schestowitz-TR like using up the harvest by Sewptember [07:32] schestowitz-TR to thenm starve in winter [07:32] schestowitz-TR I'd rather earn little, slowly, not buy a second-hand mercedes to make impressions [07:33] schestowitz-TR "fighting desertification" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/12/un-report-warns-earth-crossroads-battle-against-global-drought-crisis [07:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | UN Report Warns Earth at 'Crossroads' in Battle Against Global Drought Crisis [07:35] schestowitz-TR "Russia warned Thursday that it would not hesitate to retaliate should Finland join NATO" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/12/russia-threatens-retaliatory-steps-finland-inches-closer-joining-nato | Source: Common Dreams [07:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Russia Threatens 'Retaliatory Steps' as Finland Inches Closer to Joining NATO [07:53] schestowitz-TR just noticed pi's nginx served over 6k pages yesterday [07:53] schestowitz-TR we have another pi available, same OS, could do HA at home although both rely on same ISP ● May 13 [08:08] schestowitz-TR OK, I've just opened the "merged" revised file [08:08] schestowitz-TR very well done [08:08] schestowitz-TR I will integrate this into my workflow [08:08] schestowitz-TR I might have to change timeline.sh a tad bit [08:08] schestowitz-TR then I will check what it looks like in gemtext [08:09] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[08:57] schestowitz " [08:57] schestowitz Links 11/05/2022: KDE Gear 22.04.1 and EuroLinux 8.6 [08:57] schestowitz Posted in News Roundup at 8:42 am by Dr. Roy SchestowitzContentsGNU/LinuxDistributionsDevices/EmbeddedFree Software/Open SourceLeftovers [08:57] schestowitz " ● May 13 [09:08] Techrights-sec gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/12/eurolinux-8-6/ [09:08] Techrights-sec checkcing [09:10] schestowitz-TR it is just that I am guessing thiss line is about to become a lot longer [09:10] schestowitz-TR it would be good for gemini when all gemini articles are presented in a way that does not give [09:10] schestowitz-TR the impression of afterhought or second-class citizenry [09:10] schestowitz-TR I am guilty of that sometimes, e.g. with memes, but I started including headlines too and author names [09:10] schestowitz-TR from screenshots [09:10] Techrights-sec yes so it should be removed since Gemiini does not have internal links [09:11] schestowitz-TR That looks very nice in largance though, it shows full index for the page on the sidebar and clicking takes you to the rig [09:11] schestowitz-TR ht section [09:11] schestowitz-TR better experience than in "modern" Web browsers [09:18] Techrights-sec check git [09:18] Techrights-sec running cron updater [09:22] schestowitz-TR ok check the above link [09:22] Techrights-sec ok check the above link [09:23] schestowitz-TR great, this also fixed that for other posts where the categories did not fit in and lacked spaces [09:23] schestowitz-TR rianne is posting in tm, soon I will post daily links, I am not working on timeline.sh wokflow [09:28] Techrights-sec np ● May 13 [10:02] schestowitz-TR is there a change in another file that latches onto links-toc.pl and is not updates in git? [10:02] schestowitz-TR *updated [10:06] Techrights-sec yes ... checking [10:06] Techrights-sec added to git; I thought I had it symlinked but don't since I have to customize [10:06] Techrights-sec the paths [10:22] schestowitz-TR I am guessing it's a fuction call somewhere and that I can add that at my end as well [10:22] schestowitz-TR I got it working [10:25] schestowitz-TR http://techrights.org/2022/05/13/about-bsd [10:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Links 13/05/2022: End of About BSD | Techrights [10:26] schestowitz-TR I tried a bunch of things to get things after Leftovers to also show up in the TOC [10:26] schestowitz-TR for some reason it stop after Leftovers [10:29] schestowitz https://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrights.org%2F%3Fstoriesddd&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3+http%3A%2F%2Fvalidator.w3.org%2Fservices [10:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-validator.w3.org | [Invalid] Markup Validation of http://techrights.org/?storiesddd - W3C Markup Validator [10:29] Techrights-sec ok checking [10:44] schestowitz-TR I was just about to suggest sending that [10:44] schestowitz-TR hang on ... [10:44] schestowitz-TR sorry, I was posting to TM, so got distracted [10:44] Techrights-sec The input file is the 2022-05-13.html or 2022-05-13-merged.html nothing else [10:44] Techrights-sec what file are you trying to process with links-toc.pl ? [10:44] Techrights-sec thanks for the validator links, there are some warnings and errors I can fix [10:44] Techrights-sec from here but not all [10:44] Techrights-sec new template [10:44] Techrights-sec Error Line 4408, Column 12: ID "ipfs-table" already defined [10:44] Techrights-sec Info Line 1865, Column 12: ID "ipfs-table" first defined here [10:56] schestowitz-TR OK, #m[number] works now [10:56] schestowitz-TR I will copy the template [10:56] schestowitz-TR I have juts tested with past 6 daily links' input files [10:56] schestowitz-TR sometimes it goes further than leftovers [10:56] schestowitz-TR I wonder if invalid xhtml is what causes it to panic [10:56] schestowitz-TR testing some more [10:56] schestowitz-TR I am starting to suspect is gets baffled ifthe first level sections have items in them, but still testing [10:56] schestowitz-TR yes, OK, now I am quite sure [10:56] schestowitz-TR | [10:56] schestowitz-TR |-Section A [10:56] schestowitz-TR |-news [10:56] schestowitz-TR |-Section B [10:56] schestowitz-TR would break and show just Section A [10:56] schestowitz-TR if you remove "news" [10:56] schestowitz-TR |-Section A [10:56] schestowitz-TR |----Section B [10:56] schestowitz-TR |----Secttion C [10:56] schestowitz-TR then it copes OK [10:57] Techrights-sec id attributes must be unique so if they are to be repeated then class would [10:57] Techrights-sec be more appropriate for formatting and layout matters [10:57] Techrights-sec great [10:58] schestowitz-TR the ipfs validation error (and similar) are due to me "not writing enough articles" [10:58] schestowitz-TR so the blogs's front page shows two "IRC posts" among the "latest 8" and sections are redefined with nonunqie IDs ● May 13 [11:11] Techrights-sec akc [11:17] schestowitz-TR I could just abstain from nesting iterms directly under level 1 headings [11:17] schestowitz-TR that would not be hard [11:17] schestowitz-TR about to set off cycling [11:17] schestowitz-TR checking all of today's gz files [11:17] schestowitz-TR tm, wordpress, drupal OK; only wiki gz invalid [11:17] Techrights-sec ack [11:17] schestowitz-TR bbl ● May 13 [12:59] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) ● May 13 [14:10] schestowitz-TR back home [14:10] schestowitz-TR saved about 40 [14:10] schestowitz-TR now properly back (desk) [14:10] schestowitz-TR on the way back I thought, [14:10] schestowitz-TR iunstead of #m[number] [14:10] Techrights-sec good savings [14:10] schestowitz-TR maybe pick random letter [14:10] schestowitz-TR as some pages contain muliple batches of Daily Links [14:10] schestowitz-TR hence there is a good chande if id collision [14:10] schestowitz-TR which not only renders validation errors [14:10] schestowitz-TR but also ambiguity as to what direction the drirector links to [14:10] schestowitz-TR with 50+ letters the program goes away, or maybe some other thing, date would be the worst UID [14:10] schestowitz-TR as the collusion would typically occur with batches of the same date [14:15] schestowitz-TR btw, my "leave my job" draft can be rcycled as "going part part" to focus on the site [14:15] schestowitz-TR pending confirmation [14:15] schestowitz-TR we did the maths and realise there's no way to retire, not even close, far toioo early ● May 13 [16:07] schestowitz-TR He's not wrong. Twitter is FAKING its numbers. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/musk_twitter_on_hold/ see https://techrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/ [16:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Elon Musk puts Twitter deal on hold over bot count The Register [16:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Twitter is Not as Important as the Media Wants Us to Believe | Techrights [16:08] schestowitz-TR He's not wrong. Twitter is FAKING its numbers. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/musk_twitter_on_hold/ see https://tec [16:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: tec; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://tec ) [16:08] schestowitz-TR hrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/ [16:08] schestowitz-TR realising they pay for a pile of dying shit [16:08] schestowitz-TR while twitter makes my account seem like suddenly impression quadrupled [16:08] schestowitz-TR and it's obv. fake [16:26] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 13 [17:41] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:42] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [17:44] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 13 [18:50] Techrights-sec Twitter is a massive disinformation megaphone and contol of it is worth [18:50] Techrights-sec a lot of money to some malevolent interests. [18:50] Techrights-sec what kind of actions + savings can put you on a trajectory to retire in 10 years [18:50] Techrights-sec ? [18:52] schestowitz-TR if I worked very very hard on "money", I could retire in 10 years [18:52] schestowitz-TR but then I'd losing 10 years trying to earn money [18:52] schestowitz-TR so the balanced approached is better [18:52] schestowitz-TR maybe we'll even move somewhere that is less expensive [18:52] schestowitz-TR but that's just a thought [18:52] schestowitz-TR the world is too vaolatile atm [18:52] Techrights-sec ok I was wondering what timescale a balanced track would bring [18:54] schestowitz-TR I hope MusKSA withdrsw, then Twitter collapses, for good... [18:54] schestowitz-TR both of b/ [18:54] schestowitz-TR best of both worlds [18:54] schestowitz-TR in a sense [18:55] schestowitz-TR like Microsoft and Yhoo! [18:55] schestowitz-TR They kept doing that to Yahoo! [18:55] schestowitz-TR until Yahoo! died [18:55] schestowitz-TR Twitter would not recover [18:55] schestowitz-TR they already piss people off by saying Trump might come back [18:55] schestowitz-TR and Musk got TOOOOOONNNNS of freepress over fake, hypothetical, likely impossible [18:55] schestowitz-TR "free speech" [18:55] schestowitz-TR so he got his money's worth already [18:55] Techrights-sec a collapse of twitter would be to nearly everyone's advantage [18:55] schestowitz-TR also as shareholder [18:55] schestowitz-TR see the link (you sent?) re SEC investigation [18:56] schestowitz-TR regarding toc code, I can refrain from adding links right after level heading 1 [18:56] schestowitz-TR as I said, choosing a random letter eahc time for id would dodge ambiguity across batches of Daily Links [18:57] Techrights-sec I can look at that over the next few days, probably ● May 13 [19:03] schestowitz-TR re Twitter, a shame think we forgot to buy popcorn [19:03] schestowitz-TR I'd buy even without a discount [19:03] schestowitz-TR once again, as the "Why I hate Elon Musk Video" starts, [19:03] schestowitz-TR Musk get a ton of free publicity without spending a cent [19:03] schestowitz-TR Trump was good at that too [19:03] schestowitz-TR je just says Trump, free speech, a bunch of other stuff [19:03] schestowitz-TR and did not even seal the deal, it seems... [19:04] schestowitz-TR meanwhile Twitter Inc. puff up its chest [19:04] schestowitz-TR pretending to be big [19:04] schestowitz-TR like 4 times bigger [19:04] schestowitz-TR like AOL the floppy delivery system [19:04] Techrights-sec ack [19:20] Techrights-sec ack [19:20] Techrights-sec I'm not sure I understand what change is needed with the TOC code. Can you [19:20] Techrights-sec show a URL or more details? [19:22] schestowitz-TR sure, I need to demonstrate with two or more files [19:22] schestowitz-TR input files [19:22] schestowitz-TR doy uo [19:22] schestowitz-TR I think I froze ytalk, ctrl s/q [19:22] schestowitz-TR managed to undo that or maybe network lag [19:22] schestowitz-TR do you need clarification about random letter [19:23] schestowitz-TR or nested item right below level 1 heading? or both? [19:23] Techrights-sec ctrl s will freeze, ctrl q will unfreeze [19:24] Techrights-sec Clarification regarding which file. I suppose the Epoch could be used as part [19:24] Techrights-sec of the id attribute, that would make it unique enough since the script would [19:24] Techrights-sec be most unlikely to be run twice in one second [19:25] schestowitz-TR hour of day would make it unique enough [19:25] schestowitz-TR rianne and I are scraping the pile of news quite hard thurd and friday [19:25] schestowitz-TR because there is almost nothing of substance [19:25] schestowitz-TR I will provide input files [19:30] Techrights-sec ok [19:30] Techrights-sec tm is having trouble [19:30] Techrights-sec or at least unreachable from here [19:30] schestowitz-TR see your account on pi [19:30] schestowitz-TR 1) run with links-before.html [19:30] schestowitz-TR 2) two now the one "with-sternberg" [19:31] schestowitz-TR 3) the diff is one link after leftovers [19:31] schestowitz-TR 4) the output diff is TOC going to end of file vs stopping at leftovers [19:31] schestowitz-TR I've just started ddos protector on TM [19:31] schestowitz-TR due to a surge (load avg 48) [19:31] Techrights-sec thanks [19:31] Techrights-sec ok [19:31] Techrights-sec tm is having trouble [19:31] Techrights-sec or at least unreachable from here [19:31] Techrights-sec checking file [19:31] Techrights-sec ack [19:33] schestowitz-TR ohl, oops, I put the files in MY homedor on YOUR server [19:33] Techrights-sec not seeing any new file in the home directory [19:33] Techrights-sec one problem might be also with the div id for the whole toc itself from [19:33] Techrights-sec the template [19:51] Techrights-sec ok looking [19:51] Techrights-sec taking a guess...working... [19:51] Techrights-sec ok check Git [19:51] Techrights-sec the id for the toc div is also replaced [19:54] schestowitz-TR thanks [19:54] schestowitz-TR trying... [19:54] schestowitz-TR the IDs are much better now, that's very good [19:54] schestowitz-TR when I run it with sternberg the TOC ends after "leftovers" [19:54] schestowitz-TR I checked to be sure I use the latest revision [19:58] Techrights-sec make sure to use the latest template.html [19:58] Techrights-sec ack [19:58] schestowitz-TR oh, that would be it.... let me try ● May 13 [20:08] schestowitz-TR iirc, we had a bunch of old template lying about [20:08] schestowitz-TR but maybe not in git rather some some diretory somewhere? [20:08] Techrights-sec the one in Git is the authoritative one [20:08] Techrights-sec in the Links directory [20:19] schestowitz-TR I don't remember where the old ones were, maybe the older git [20:19] schestowitz-TR but either way, mine had some hacks bolted onto it [20:19] schestowitz-TR so I filed it in git and will have to make subtle changes [20:19] schestowitz-TR my changes are very minor, I just need to test a few times [20:24] schestowitz-TR Ok, I found them, they are in ~/bin [20:24] schestowitz-TR template* files [20:24] schestowitz-TR that's how I remembered it [20:24] schestowitz-TR I will move them to a new dir [20:24] schestowitz-TR there are now 5 files under ~/bin/template [20:24] schestowitz-TR if I become part timer I should tidy those bits up as well [20:26] Techrights-sec Ok but the one all the perl scripts are based on is in Links in Git [20:26] Techrights-sec maybe best to delete or at least tar+gzip the old ones so they are [20:26] Techrights-sec out of the way [20:26] Techrights-sec ack [20:28] schestowitz-TR I've begun making my own 'deriv' of template [20:28] schestowitz-TR because I need a lot more "slots" for howtos [20:28] schestowitz-TR and the top part contains some 'logic' for adding the right date to title in wordpress [20:28] schestowitz-TR those are easy, trivial edits, I won't push these back [20:28] schestowitz-TR I have some vbery oddball workflow [20:28] schestowitz-TR and some magic mouse buttons to help make it faster [20:28] Techrights-sec I just add them on the fly with not-quite-macros [20:28] Techrights-sec extra mouse buttons would help a lot I expect [20:29] schestowitz-TR I used to do the same with xbindkeys (still there, too) [20:29] schestowitz-TR but mouse if faster, the thumb just moves a little [20:33] schestowitz-TR gn [20:33] schestowitz-TR I will test here what needs testing [20:33] schestowitz-TR this will overll improve Daily links ● May 13 [22:01] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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