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schestowitz[TR2]"Sep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]I've found how to check the Debian & Ubuntu certs, but not the UEFI certSep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]for exampleSep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]cd /tmp/Sep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]osslsigncode extract-signature -pem \Sep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2] -in /boot/efi/EFI/debian/shimx64.efi \Sep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2] -out signature.pemSep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]openssl pkcs7 -inform pem -in signature.pem -noout -print_certs -textSep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]But that does not get us closer to finding the time of expirySep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]The first utility above extracts the certificate, the second showsSep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]the data there.  That includes the date.  Unforutnately for us, it isSep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]not a relevant certificate.Sep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]# sbverify --list /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efiSep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]warning: data remaining[840592 vs 966664]: gaps between PE/COFF sections?Sep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]signature 1Sep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]image signature issuers:Sep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2] - /C=US/ST=Washington/L=Redmond/O=Microsoft Corporation/CN=Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011Sep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]image signature certificates:Sep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2] - subject: /C=US/ST=Washington/L=Redmond/O=Microsoft Corporation/CN=Microsoft Windows UEFI Driver PublisherSep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]   issuer:  /C=US/ST=Washington/L=Redmond/O=Microsoft Corporation/CN=Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011Sep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2] - subject: /C=US/ST=Washington/L=Redmond/O=Microsoft Corporation/CN=Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011Sep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]   issuer:  /C=US/ST=Washington/L=Redmond/O=Microsoft Corporation/CN=Microsoft Corporation Third Party Marketplace RootSep 13 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]"Sep 13 07:40
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schestowitz[TR2]"When the Apache Web Server project was started:Sep 13 10:25
schestowitz[TR2]"The name 'Apache' was chosen from respect for the various Native American nations collectively referred to as Apache, well-known for their superior skills in warfare strategy and their inexhaustible endurance."Sep 13 10:25
schestowitz[TR2]Now that the "Apache Software Foundation" no longer wishes to associate with the name "Apache" -- one of the most recognizable brands in the web server market -- does that mean that they no longer have respect for the Native Americans known as the Apache?Sep 13 10:25
schestowitz[TR2]According to Brian Behlendorf, the founder of Apache, the original name was intended to convey this:Sep 13 10:25
schestowitz[TR2]"Take no prisoners. Be kind of aggressive and kick some ass."Sep 13 10:25
schestowitz[TR2]Apparently they (the Foundation Previously Known as Apache) don't want to convey that anymore."Sep 13 10:25
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schestowitz[TR2]> I can't CC her on my response if I don't have the key.Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2]> Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2]> Instead of putting it online, you could send it to me by email and I Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2]> won't share it.Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2]> Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2]> You can export the public key without the signatures on it, in other Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2]> words, so that I can't see who else signed Rianne's key.  But in that Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2]> case, you need to either make sure your own signature is on the key or Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2]> sign the email and sign the attachment with your own key as a hint that Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2]> I can trust the key you are attaching.Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2]> Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2]> Email programs don't always sign the attachment when signing the Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2]> message.  It is easier if Rianne's key has your PGP signature on it.Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2]We'll look into it when we are back.Sep 13 19:31
schestowitz[TR2] http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2025/09/no-claim-interpretation-summersaults.html?showComment=1757616866545#c7621829609204974984\Sep 13 20:17
schestowitz[TR2]"@ Proof of the pudding,<br /><br />I do not agree with all what sir Robin Jacob has said, but there is no need to make fun of him as you have done. He is entitled to his opinions and the way they are made public is irrelevant. <br /><br />The law is different on both sides of the Atlantic, and the CAFC position might contribute to one’s general patent monopoly culture, but is of little interest on this"Sep 13 20:17
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