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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9op3xmsAEwWbACzlA0Nov 13 04:13
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:13
r_schestowitzMain issue with RISC-V is companies like HexFive[0] and projects like Keystone[1] are trying to add treacherous computing support.[2] Hex Five is part of the RISC-V foundation and partnered with SiFive, Microsemi, Andes Technology, and AdaCore. Keystone is supported by MIT and and Berkley. The value of RISC-V depends on how irrelevant HexFive and Keystone become.Nov 13 04:13
r_schestowitz[0] https://hex-five.com/Nov 13 04:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 13 04:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hex-five.com | Hex Five Security – The 1st Trusted Execution Environment for RISC-VNov 13 04:13
r_schestowitz[1] https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/drm.htmlNov 13 04:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fsf.org | Digital Restrictions Management and Treacherous Computing — Free Software Foundation — working together for free softwareNov 13 04:13
r_schestowitz[2] https://keystone-enclave.org/Nov 13 04:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-keystone-enclave.org | Keystone | An Open Framework for Architecting TEEsNov 13 04:13
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:13
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9op428859M5oFTVlomNov 13 04:13
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:13
r_schestowitz@schestowitzNov 13 04:13
r_schestowitzSounds really awful.Nov 13 04:13
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r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:13
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oqHutrTONSwUF9JU8Nov 13 04:14
r_schestowitz"https://invidio.us/watch?v=1SKpRbvnx6g"Nov 13 04:14
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-invidio.us | re:publica 2019 - Eben Moglen: Why Freedom of Thought Requires Attention - InvidiousNov 13 04:14
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oqKr6TIrjc0Ihj1jENov 13 04:14
r_schestowitz"Wow, what a great news? Ah."Nov 13 04:14
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oqL0CDAtVpUi0W6tMNov 13 04:14
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:14
r_schestowitzHa ha ha ha ha ... Nov 13 04:14
r_schestowitzHa ha 😂Nov 13 04:14
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r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:14
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oqTEqNT9bsky8pNRoNov 13 04:15
r_schestowitz The USA has enough people, it should not import people and their problems from the violent 3rd world. Thank you Mr. President Donald J. Trump; the first American president in my lifetime.""Nov 13 04:15
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oqTOydpHg73UjJJ8CNov 13 04:15
r_schestowitz" Climate hoax is a money grab."Nov 13 04:15
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oqTRgD2GqVPCI4HhINov 13 04:16
r_schestowitz"yup. They certainly aren't an engineering company."Nov 13 04:16
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9or8OLqvazxVJYG7YeNov 13 04:16
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:16
r_schestowitzThe page is gone....404Nov 13 04:16
r_schestowitz #kubecon #ubuntu #zemlinpacNov 13 04:16
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r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:16
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9orJYjsIEi7KD13MaONov 13 04:16
r_schestowitz" Apple also worked closely with ICE (or its predecessor) in 1986 to prevent the Pineapple (Apple II clone) being sold in the USA..."Nov 13 04:16
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9orMiu9VBAKWqIdpuyNov 13 04:17
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:17
r_schestowitzIt is amazing that people actually use the #birdsite still.Nov 13 04:17
r_schestowitz#Trump must be getting kickbacks for using it. He's probably the main reason the site still exists.Nov 13 04:17
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r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:17
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9orml7T5EvN9WoW8fINov 13 04:18
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:18
r_schestowitz@schestowitz, moreover, itʼs just redundant in all his ‘practical examples’ except the 4th (with conv=noerror,sync).Nov 13 04:18
r_schestowitzThe only thing he achieves by using dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb instead of cp /dev/sda /dev/sdb (or any other tool for copying with saner defaults) is decelerating a process due to setting the block size as low as to 512 bytes.Nov 13 04:18
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r_schestowitz'Nov 13 04:18
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9os4A3UQrlhBeNclyyNov 13 04:18
r_schestowitz"@schestowitz HUGE LOL CDN"Nov 13 04:18
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9osEhhjDHTMJXsDoRMNov 13 04:19
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:19
r_schestowitzIs this a #supposedPhoto of an #alledgedWhistleblower?Nov 13 04:19
r_schestowitzIs he holding what we think he's holding? Please tell me that he needed to feed a small village.Nov 13 04:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 13 04:19
r_schestowitzLooks like the #deepState strikes again. It's a shame the Dems cannot get their house in order, yet they've been a sham for decades.Nov 13 04:19
r_schestowitz#DickSmith's #FairGo calls for an end to political donations - there's other ways to fund democracy.Nov 13 04:19
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:19
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9osOD49spq7Zfxj42CNov 13 04:19
r_schestowitz"@schestowitz"Nov 13 04:19
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9osRWCCnRNGRzutyHANov 13 04:19
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r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:19
r_schestowitz@schestowitzNov 13 04:20
r_schestowitz@jamewils See the above image sir, You may like it.Nov 13 04:20
r_schestowitz'Nov 13 04:20
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9osiMt1f4x9V7yq9tANov 13 04:20
r_schestowitzz yea, well, they also think the deities are real, so they're pretty fucken retarded."Nov 13 04:20
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9osvcsQEOF81IDHt7gNov 13 04:21
r_schestowitz"@schestowitz nowadays (if it doesn't simply still go through a fax) most of it is scanned and "encrypted" but by various low-cost/snakeoil services that store the data in the USA. Projects to use more joined up/secure digital methods that were deployed in mainland Northern Europe a decade or more ago have *repeatedly* stalled in the UK (its been like that for all the 12+ years I've been working in IT management for healthcare)"Nov 13 04:21
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9osz2tdAon0gQvRKmONov 13 04:21
r_schestowitz"I'm always mortified to see Windows machines throughout GPs' offices."Nov 13 04:21
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9otGXwRW6z7pLuNQwaNov 13 04:21
r_schestowitz""Nov 13 04:21
r_schestowitz@schestowitz #ChooseCVS instead:Nov 13 04:21
r_schestowitzhttps://thfr.info/cvscomp.htmlNov 13 04:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 13 04:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thfr.info | Feature Comparison GitHub vs. Self-Hosted CVSNov 13 04:21
r_schestowitzcc @AFresh1 ^^Nov 13 04:21
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:21
r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9otiNWth22s9weNbF2Nov 13 04:21
r_schestowitz"z I find this whole confected conflict annoying. I wish it would disappear ..."Nov 13 04:21
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9otkAZRkRUSvzlG03sNov 13 04:22
r_schestowitz"Smh..."Nov 13 04:22
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r_schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ouLNk0OC2PuoLbTXcNov 13 04:22
r_schestowitzMaga""Nov 13 04:22
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/firedup99/status/1194469430601777152Nov 13 04:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@firedup99: @schestowitz @wikileaks @MarkSZaidEsq @NaomiPitcairn @ARetVet @john_sipher @PacoBell @AshaRangappa_ @wbaidlaw… https://t.co/42zuxbVT05Nov 13 04:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@firedup99: @schestowitz @wikileaks @MarkSZaidEsq @NaomiPitcairn @ARetVet @john_sipher @PacoBell @AshaRangappa_ @wbaidlaw… https://t.co/42zuxbVT05Nov 13 04:28
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:28
r_schestowitzWhistleblower Attorney Bragged About Getting Security Clearances For “Guys With Child Porn Issues”Nov 13 04:29
r_schestowitzGUY IS A PEDOPHILENov 13 04:29
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:29
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/firedup99/status/1194467743673700352Nov 13 04:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@firedup99: @schestowitz @wikileaks @MarkSZaidEsq @NaomiPitcairn @ARetVet @john_sipher @PacoBell @AshaRangappa_ @wbaidlaw… https://t.co/dPbbU4D0liNov 13 04:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@firedup99: @schestowitz @wikileaks @MarkSZaidEsq @NaomiPitcairn @ARetVet @john_sipher @PacoBell @AshaRangappa_ @wbaidlaw… https://t.co/dPbbU4D0liNov 13 04:29
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:29
r_schestowitzI think Mark Zaid is a pedophileNov 13 04:29
r_schestowitzWhistleblower Attorney Bragged About Getting Security Clearances For “Guys With Child Porn Issues”Nov 13 04:29
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:29
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/firedup99/status/1194467447287336961Nov 13 04:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@firedup99: @schestowitz @wikileaks @MarkSZaidEsq @NaomiPitcairn @ARetVet @john_sipher @PacoBell @AshaRangappa_ @wbaidlaw… https://t.co/C00kjlnyPBNov 13 04:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@firedup99: @schestowitz @wikileaks @MarkSZaidEsq @NaomiPitcairn @ARetVet @john_sipher @PacoBell @AshaRangappa_ @wbaidlaw… https://t.co/C00kjlnyPBNov 13 04:29
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:30
r_schestowitzReplying to Nov 13 04:30
r_schestowitz@schestowitzNov 13 04:30
r_schestowitz Nov 13 04:30
r_schestowitz@wikileaksNov 13 04:30
r_schestowitz and 8 othersNov 13 04:30
r_schestowitzI think Mark Zaid is a pedophileNov 13 04:30
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:30
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_lore_RAH/status/1194423347695833094Nov 13 04:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@_lore_RAH: @Dembe61386013 @schestowitz @wikileaks We have a law similar to that, here in the US. It’s used against those commi… https://t.co/QdXYDfHugqNov 13 04:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@_lore_RAH: @Dembe61386013 @schestowitz @wikileaks We have a law similar to that, here in the US. It’s used against those commi… https://t.co/QdXYDfHugqNov 13 04:30
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:30
r_schestowitzWe have a law similar to that, here in the US. It’s used against those committing #Treason - those acting to undermine the US Gov & aid our enemies. Deep state, left, right, doesn’t matter... it’s still a death sentence. Nov 13 04:30
r_schestowitzToo bad about that house & cash fantasy... Nov 13 04:30
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:30
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Navyguns/status/1194409656829009922Nov 13 04:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Navyguns: @craignicol @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @mdpopescu @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin Do you have any evidence for thinking that? Anything?Nov 13 04:30
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/alcipone/status/1194384421928996864Nov 13 04:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@alcipone: @schestowitz @wikileaks Getting ready for the keys of the insurance files ..Nov 13 04:31
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JustMeJillS/status/1194380545914003456Nov 13 04:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JustMeJillS: @schestowitz @wikileaks Justifiable retribution.Nov 13 04:31
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Dembe61386013/status/1194379780872953856Nov 13 04:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Dembe61386013: @schestowitz @wikileaks Nahhh. That will never happen. Don't hold your breath. 😂😂😂Nov 13 04:31
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194374749582872583Nov 13 04:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Yeah, this isn't a very good "pro tip" when the Microsoft core fonts are so old and not optimized for… https://t.co/XYrkClmDT0Nov 13 04:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Yeah, this isn't a very good "pro tip" when the Microsoft core fonts are so old and not optimized for… https://t.co/XYrkClmDT0Nov 13 04:31
r_schestowitz"Yeah, this isn't a very good "pro tip" when the Microsoft core fonts are so old and not optimized for today's LCDs. The Gentoo Wiki doesn't think very highly of them. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Fontconfig"Nov 13 04:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-wiki.gentoo.org | Fontconfig - Gentoo WikiNov 13 04:31
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194368194644869120Nov 13 04:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz An excellent set of choices. Xfce is very light-weight and compatible with GNOME and KDE apps.Nov 13 04:32
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Dembe61386013/status/1194366377592868864Nov 13 04:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Dembe61386013: @schestowitz @wikileaks That's how it should be. Putin executes WBs/journalists/critics... 😁. They should pass an i… https://t.co/9F2AbzNVvFNov 13 04:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Dembe61386013: @schestowitz @wikileaks That's how it should be. Putin executes WBs/journalists/critics... 😁. They should pass an i… https://t.co/9F2AbzNVvFNov 13 04:32
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:32
r_schestowitz|That's how it should be. Putin executes WBs/journalists/critics... . They should pass an international law that if you blow the whistle against the left or deep state you should be executed right away and if it's vice versa you get an award along with a house and cash. |Nov 13 04:32
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Dembe61386013/status/1194362637217411073Nov 13 04:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Dembe61386013: @schestowitz @wikileaks You honestly think Putin would be where he is today if he followed "rules and laws?" 😂😂😂. Y… https://t.co/NTeSnS5RkdNov 13 04:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Dembe61386013: @schestowitz @wikileaks You honestly think Putin would be where he is today if he followed "rules and laws?" 😂😂😂. Y… https://t.co/NTeSnS5RkdNov 13 04:32
r_schestowitz"You honestly think Putin would be where he is today if he followed "rules and laws?" . You have to be corrupt, engaging in strictly illegal activities, lucrative dealings, people must die (collateral damage or not), lots of dirty money must be cleaned... Peak Putin. "Nov 13 04:32
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Dembe61386013/status/1194361521255657474Nov 13 04:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Dembe61386013: @schestowitz @wikileaks Nahhh. I rather be an outlaw. I like corruption, mafias, outlaws, evil, Oligarchs, everythi… https://t.co/2AjMwZ0K1bNov 13 04:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Dembe61386013: @schestowitz @wikileaks Nahhh. I rather be an outlaw. I like corruption, mafias, outlaws, evil, Oligarchs, everythi… https://t.co/2AjMwZ0K1bNov 13 04:32
r_schestowitz"Nahhh. I rather be an outlaw. I like corruption, mafias, outlaws, evil, Oligarchs, everything illegal. F**k the law, rules, "legality," the police, etc. I'm glad people are finding ways to beat the system. You will not be rich by doing what the system asks of you. BACK CHANNELS"Nov 13 04:33
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194350163608752128Nov 13 04:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz One way we see this play out is Facebook moving to promote end-to-end encryption as a competitive sell… https://t.co/RpRppsVwe0Nov 13 04:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz One way we see this play out is Facebook moving to promote end-to-end encryption as a competitive sell… https://t.co/RpRppsVwe0Nov 13 04:33
r_schestowitzk moving to promote end-to-end encryption as a competitive selling point, but the real "lawful intercept" backdoors are elsewhere in the stack. So they don't have to scan for child abuse imagery or even your legal content for targeting ads.""Nov 13 04:33
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194350524549611520Nov 13 04:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Because Facebook & the others get more PR benefit from saying "e2e" encryption than PR downside to not… https://t.co/xYMOg2xcykNov 13 04:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Because Facebook & the others get more PR benefit from saying "e2e" encryption than PR downside to not… https://t.co/xYMOg2xcykNov 13 04:34
r_schestowitz"Because Facebook & the others get more PR benefit from saying "e2e" encryption than PR downside to not trying very hard to stop pedophiles (which they could do using just the social graph from known perpetrators, but FB choose not to care very much about eroding their user base)."Nov 13 04:34
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194350971226210305Nov 13 04:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz I think we know already from the @Snowden leaks just what can be done with a social graph even when yo… https://t.co/VbEdTtzNILNov 13 04:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz I think we know already from the @Snowden leaks just what can be done with a social graph even when yo… https://t.co/VbEdTtzNILNov 13 04:34
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:34
r_schestowitzI think we know already from the Nov 13 04:34
r_schestowitz@SnowdenNov 13 04:34
r_schestowitz leaks just what can be done with a social graph even when you don't know the contents. Having said that, especially on #Android, $FB works very hard to get access to your unencrypted (locally) SMS/MMS/RCS messages to scan contents, too.Nov 13 04:34
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:34
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194337275171106817Nov 13 04:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Nobody's attacking GNU "by extension" that I've noticed. Having said that, I'm not sure what Salesforce actually does…Nov 13 04:35
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194336765638656000Nov 13 04:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz A rare opportunity for "actually it's GNU". It's a good point, since the Linux GNU userland is as rele… https://t.co/LDGV0jtq5FNov 13 04:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz A rare opportunity for "actually it's GNU". It's a good point, since the Linux GNU userland is as rele… https://t.co/LDGV0jtq5FNov 13 04:35
r_schestowitz"A rare opportunity for "actually it's GNU". It's a good point, since the Linux GNU userland is as relevant as the kernel for users & devs. Android is Linux but *not* GNU, and you only get the commands in "toolbox", which is a BSD-licensed clone of BusyBox. https://elinux.org/Android_toolbox"Nov 13 04:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-elinux.org | Android toolbox - eLinux.orgNov 13 04:35
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194335446672691201Nov 13 04:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz I used to think you were being hyperbolic about Microsoft's capture of attention in the Linux & FOSS c… https://t.co/7NJjK2azDsNov 13 04:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz I used to think you were being hyperbolic about Microsoft's capture of attention in the Linux & FOSS c… https://t.co/7NJjK2azDsNov 13 04:37
r_schestowitzI used to think you were being hyperbolic about Microsoft's capture of attention in the Linux & FOSS communities, but since I'm not being paid by Microsoft to work on their stack, I'm free to say that I don't see any great value in any of it vs. GNOME or KDE desktop (or Android).""Nov 13 04:37
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194335812705386498Nov 13 04:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Similarly for your talk about boycotting GitHub. You were ahead of the pack just because you expected… https://t.co/GYSpH0roCmNov 13 04:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Similarly for your talk about boycotting GitHub. You were ahead of the pack just because you expected… https://t.co/GYSpH0roCmNov 13 04:37
r_schestowitzSimilarly for your talk about boycotting GitHub. You were ahead of the pack just because you expected the worst from Microsoft, and eventually they got caught doing stuff that a lot of people were bothered by (collaborating with ICE). Big monopolists are inherently untrustworthy.""Nov 13 04:37
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194334105522987008Nov 13 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz "Un-Googled and privacy-focused #Android?" Wonderful! https://t.co/dKmwiY2L6nNov 13 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.indidea.org | Leaving Apple & Google - /e/ mobile OS next steps: a Roadmap for 2020 - Gaël Duval (blog, mandrake, /e/ my data is my data...)Nov 13 04:38
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CaboverPeter/status/1194322277233504256Nov 13 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CaboverPeter: @craignicol @schestowitz @mdpopescu @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin https://t.co/68FtfEKuo2Nov 13 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@NatusSolis: I have been a financial supporter of the Linux Foundation for more than a decade. As a Linux Supporter, a PhD, and… https://t.co/a9fB9kQc0LNov 13 04:38
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CaboverPeter/status/1194322088934424576Nov 13 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CaboverPeter: @craignicol @schestowitz @mdpopescu @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin https://t.co/Ah0YmzvYYKNov 13 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@btsheehy: *whispers* it's never gonna happen https://t.co/nwOC8YYixwNov 13 04:38
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CaboverPeter/status/1194321962497183744Nov 13 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CaboverPeter: @craignicol @schestowitz @mdpopescu @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin https://t.co/HXORkkR2foNov 13 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@NatusSolis: I will cease all funding for @linuxfoundation until a formal apology and a change in the CoC removing the language used to revoke here.Nov 13 04:38
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CaboverPeter/status/1194321823728574465Nov 13 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CaboverPeter: @craignicol @schestowitz @mdpopescu @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin https://t.co/Gs40GCMfMyNov 13 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@traquorcapital: @linuxfoundation @CloudNativeFdn Hi Linux Foundation, I am uncomfortable with attending your events because of the… https://t.co/ehjZrZuw35Nov 13 04:38
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/craignicol/status/1194320821550034948Nov 13 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@craignicol: @mdpopescu @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin Only about 20 years out but ok. If being… https://t.co/UsjDdceDhcNov 13 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@craignicol: @mdpopescu @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin Only about 20 years out but ok. If being… https://t.co/UsjDdceDhcNov 13 04:38
r_schestowitz"Only about 20 years out but ok. If being a leftie means giving a shit about people, then I'm a proud leftie."Nov 13 04:38
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mdpopescu/status/1194309115234979841Nov 13 04:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mdpopescu: @craignicol @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin Ok boomer. (Man, the lefties managed a… https://t.co/wHDuSHYbbtNov 13 04:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mdpopescu: @craignicol @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin Ok boomer. (Man, the lefties managed a… https://t.co/wHDuSHYbbtNov 13 04:39
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:39
r_schestowitzOk boomer.Nov 13 04:39
r_schestowitz(Man, the lefties managed a good meme. Who would have thought?)Nov 13 04:39
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:39
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/craignicol/status/1194305024777699333Nov 13 04:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@craignicol: @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @mdpopescu @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin Supporting MAGA is supporting a racist,… https://t.co/MlGJClymSqNov 13 04:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@craignicol: @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @mdpopescu @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin Supporting MAGA is supporting a racist,… https://t.co/MlGJClymSqNov 13 04:39
r_schestowitzSupporting MAGA is supporting a racist, misogynistic ideology. I can completely understand why any organisation would want to distance themselves from that.""Nov 13 04:39
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DMCANews/status/1194299880245616640Nov 13 04:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DMCANews: @CaboverPeter @schestowitz Yes. Their (lf) censorship and culture of lies/deceit is coming to the front now! The Li… https://t.co/9fRStWNrWhNov 13 04:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DMCANews: @CaboverPeter @schestowitz Yes. Their (lf) censorship and culture of lies/deceit is coming to the front now! The Li… https://t.co/9fRStWNrWhNov 13 04:40
r_schestowitz"Yes. Their (lf) censorship and culture of lies/deceit is coming to the front now! The Linux foundation where big promoters of that censorship covenant. Here's just one result."Nov 13 04:40
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CaboverPeter/status/1194262261428346881Nov 13 04:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CaboverPeter: @schestowitz Here is another reddit thread covering the issue, with more sources https://t.co/7V590YLkzWNov 13 04:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.reddit.com | Cancel culture taints The Linux Foundation, developer publicly disinvited from event over political opinions : webdevNov 13 04:40
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/j082298/status/1194247702302904320Nov 13 04:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: @schestowitz https://t.co/pxY7MFEsfsNov 13 04:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.google.com | why do celebrities stick their tongues out - Google SearchNov 13 04:40
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CaboverPeter/status/1194244685352624129Nov 13 04:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CaboverPeter: @schestowitz https://t.co/Zckl8Lhe2YNov 13 04:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@controversialO9: @noelbaron @linuxfoundation @CHERdotdev Kim Crayton: "white people have privilege they're not using and they're lac… https://t.co/Ew7SpJ6j7jNov 13 04:40
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CaboverPeter/status/1194244316463583232Nov 13 04:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CaboverPeter: @schestowitz https://t.co/OLgSrepvuTNov 13 04:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CaboverPeter: @mdpopescu @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin These are the kinds of that are endorsed by the Linux Foundation. https://t.co/XgjJT59rTWNov 13 04:40
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CaboverPeter/status/1194243752614866944Nov 13 04:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CaboverPeter: @schestowitz https://t.co/R2TbmLicLFNov 13 04:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@traquorcapital: @linuxfoundation @CloudNativeFdn Hi Linux Foundation, I am uncomfortable with attending your events because of the… https://t.co/ehjZrZuw35Nov 13 04:41
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CaboverPeter/status/1194243257376657408Nov 13 04:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CaboverPeter: @schestowitz Another issue is that they endorse blatant racism. https://t.co/PD1AkaCJ1XNov 13 04:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@CaboverPeter: Developer got banned from The Linux Foundation and upcoming #KubeCon tech conference, for mediating an argument and… https://t.co/QRvu68vywcNov 13 04:41
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GuruRetired/status/1194227965610971139Nov 13 04:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GuruRetired: @schestowitz Really? 0.0 Then which search engine would you recommend to use, and is it capable of delivering equal performance?Nov 13 04:41
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/j082298/status/1194222221562122240Nov 13 04:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: @schestowitz Just one more fake construct. It used to be that the young respected and learned from their elders as in China, etc.Nov 13 04:41
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/j082298/status/1194208590493618182Nov 13 04:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: Florida does not need another @Walmart, no one needs more job killing crappy stores! @EcoWatch @GGWTV… https://t.co/duDbVVT4anNov 13 04:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: Florida does not need another @Walmart, no one needs more job killing crappy stores! @EcoWatch @GGWTV… https://t.co/duDbVVT4anNov 13 04:41
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:41
r_schestowitzFlorida does not need another Nov 13 04:41
r_schestowitz@WalmartNov 13 04:41
r_schestowitz, no one needs more job killing crappy stores!  Nov 13 04:41
r_schestowitz@EcoWatchNov 13 04:41
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/suicidemediabot/status/1194195539199438848Nov 13 04:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@suicidemediabot: @schestowitz Tips for great #reporting on #suicide at https://t.co/ZZZkVdQ0bp.Nov 13 04:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> reportingonsuicide.org | Home - Reporting on SuicideNov 13 04:42
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1194169944302211072Nov 13 04:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz fateNov 13 04:42
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/hughbarnard/status/1194162544572817413Nov 13 04:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@hughbarnard: @schestowitz Yes, I believe, for example, that the move towards 'apps' (thus direct leakage of info, captured consu… https://t.co/5UJDykmVpiNov 13 04:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@hughbarnard: @schestowitz Yes, I believe, for example, that the move towards 'apps' (thus direct leakage of info, captured consu… https://t.co/5UJDykmVpiNov 13 04:42
r_schestowitz"Yes, I believe, for example, that the move towards 'apps' (thus direct leakage of info, captured consumer, lock in, software sprawl) is one of the most damaging things for the infrastructure-formerly-known-as-www"Nov 13 04:42
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040468597575958528?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040468597575958528:0:0:0:1040471559446642688Nov 13 04:50
r_schestowitz"Interesting post"Nov 13 04:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Open Source Is The Backbone Of A Sophisticated Cloud Strategy -- How Can Enterprises Take Advantage?Nov 13 04:50
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040437794041151488?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040437794041151488:0:0:0:1040441294349651968Nov 13 04:50
r_schestowitz"Oh what's that? Twitter is angry about something? Must be a day ending in Y."Nov 13 04:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Super Singer 7 winner: Did Punya-Vikram deserve the title more than Murugan? Twitter erupts in angerNov 13 04:50
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1039043540873789440?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1039043540873789440:0:0:0:1040434587758219264Nov 13 04:50
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:50
r_schestowitzIt's the only game easier than Go Fish. more_vertNov 13 04:50
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Ralph Nader: Boeing Is Playing Congress for FoolsNov 13 04:50
r_schestowitz5d agoNov 13 04:50
r_schestowitzprotricityNov 13 04:50
r_schestowitzWhy did that Boeing crash? Yet again we don't get an 'ex plane' ation, and now the 737 MAXs are going back in the air??? https://paradigmthreat.com/a/planes.htmlNov 13 04:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-paradigmthreat.com | Boeing B17 Bombers won WW2 by cheating by using Child Pilots, Suppressed EM Technology, and a whole lotta NapalmNov 13 04:50
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:50
r_schestowitz"DoD is we"Nov 13 04:50
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040275093486022656?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040275093486022656:1040276596376518656:1040329481332899840:0:1040331268387422208Nov 13 04:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Google looks to open source silicon to solve the root of trust conundrumNov 13 04:51
r_schestowitz"Those people don’t know what words mean. The United States is not a fascist state. In order for it to be so you would have to disband the houses of Congress, execute the Supreme Court, and burn the constitution. That’s what the word fascist actually means. These people are just name-calling like children instead of raising any logical points to argue against. 🤦‍♂️"Nov 13 04:51
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040913472050085888?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040913472050085888:0:0:0:1040926566664351744Nov 13 04:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Trump NYC Veterans Day speech met with protestsNov 13 04:51
r_schestowitz"people are awful. let's kill them all"Nov 13 04:51
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040905025494458368?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040905025494458368:0:0:0:1040911060720427008Nov 13 04:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | ImgurNov 13 04:52
r_schestowitz"a small fee is frequently used to prevent denial of service attacks, standard security practices."Nov 13 04:52
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040508072946876416?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040508072946876416:0:0:0:1040594089212104704Nov 13 04:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | 'Simply Barbaric': Trump Administration Proposes Charging Asylum FeeNov 13 04:52
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040472213372190720?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040472213372190720:0:0:0:1040472898664116224Nov 13 04:52
r_schestowitz"Interesting"Nov 13 04:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | OpenStack Foundation and China Electronics Standardization Institute Create Partnership to Advance OpenStack in ChinaNov 13 04:52
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:53
r_schestowitzIf only we could get rid of the Globalist-Leftist influence in government and the Deep State. Too many Leftists hiding on the Right, and Leftist Academics defining what the words mean, so too many people are so confused they don't know who the true enemy is.Nov 13 04:53
r_schestowitzFar Left = 100% Government, non-existent individual.Nov 13 04:53
r_schestowitzFar Right = 0% Government, 100% individual liberty. You can tell both groups (including corporations) and individuals by their behavior. It's like a simple computer algorithm. Once you know what you're looking for, it's easy to spot the evil.Nov 13 04:53
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:53
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040928499281031168?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040928499281031168:0:0:0:1040939683552030720Nov 13 04:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | And the Armies That Remained Suffer’d: Veterans, Moral Injury andNov 13 04:53
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040928679711600640?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040928679711600640:0:0:0:1040938757973995520Nov 13 04:53
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | 'Highly Disturbing' Pentagon Document Shows US Military SurveillingNov 13 04:53
r_schestowitzMore disturbing is protesting "family separation," while simultaneously promoting murder of the most vulnerable amongst us. The cognitive dissonance on this is so huge, it makes the Milky Way galaxy look tiny.Nov 13 04:53
r_schestowitzPerhaps Islam is right about women and gays.Nov 13 04:53
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:53
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040929662354305024?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040929662354305024:0:0:0:1040936721967226880Nov 13 04:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Gambia Brings Genocide Case Against MyanmarNov 13 04:53
r_schestowitz"https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040929662354305024?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040929662354305024:0:0:0:1040936721967226880"Nov 13 04:53
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:53
r_schestowitzSadly, we all need to bring charges against the Globalist-Leftists for pushing slow genocide against ALL of humanity for attempting to sell warmth as an evil in an ongoing Ice Age, and CO2 as a poison, when in reality it is the most vital gas for all of life and in short supply.Nov 13 04:53
r_schestowitzBill Gates and Harvard climate freaks should be shot for crimes against humanity, trying to cool down the planet in an ongoing Ice Age interglacial that is already 7,000 years overdue to end. Anyone who knows the #ClimateBasics can easily understand the logic of this. You don't need to be a software engineer with a degree summa cum laude like me. The basics are pretty simple... like "warm air rises."Nov 13 04:53
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:54
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040907368194449408?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040907368194449408:0:0:0:1040935344759615488Nov 13 04:54
r_schestowitz"This is a slight exaggeration. Taxis in China still accept (by law) cash, though they are increasingly not having exact change. Almost all merchants selling water still accept cash, though. So, take this with a grain of salt. Nonetheless, the basic point that China is going to a cashless society, but because it is an authoritarian society, foreigners cannot easily access the monetary market."Nov 13 04:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Welcome to China. You Probably Can’t Buy Anything, Though.Nov 13 04:54
r_schestowitz"I've liked some of Abby's reporting in the past, but she's gone Far Left and ignorant, in my book."Nov 13 04:55
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040926298758434816?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040926298758434816:0:0:0:1040947338366337024Nov 13 04:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Abby Martin and Matt Taibbi - The Project Censored ShowNov 13 04:55
r_schestowitz"Almost perfect. Burying real opposition not to the status quo, but to the plan. They haven't been trying to hold things constant; they've been eroding civilization, especially theses United States, for over 200 years."Nov 13 04:55
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040926921218314240?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040926921218314240:0:0:0:1040946168434774016Nov 13 04:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Western media: we in the West have opposition parties Sceptic: or (mostly) two parties controlled by similar interests to give a perception of 'choice' or 'opposition' (while burying real opposition to the status quo)Nov 13 04:55
r_schestowitz"The extremely wealthy (Rockefellers, Rothschilds and their ilk) are controlling both sides of the political spectrum. Divide and conquer. Sell solutions to fake problems that they create. So, we end up with Disease Maintenance and ALL cures outlawed, while Health Maintenance is not really taught in medical school."Nov 13 04:55
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040927191354437632?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040927191354437632:0:0:0:1040945561303523328Nov 13 04:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Biden and Bloomberg Want Uncle Sam to Defer to Uncle ScroogeNov 13 04:56
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:56
r_schestowitzFirst things first! Before you can enact a usable reform, you have to get your DEFINITIONS correct. It's like the Pentium FDIV problem years ago. Calculations produced wrong results because of a flaw in design. Definitions are like that in society.Nov 13 04:56
r_schestowitzWhen you truly understand the difference between Left and Right (NOT as the Leftist academics have defined it), you know that we have to get rid of all the socialists and crony capitalists, the fascists and the communists. They're all Leftists -- with a big fetish for Centralized Control, Collectivism and tyranny. Crony Capitalists hate Free Market Capitalism. They're too lazy, stupid and/or evil to play fairly.Nov 13 04:56
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 04:56
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040927484499701760?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040927484499701760:0:0:0:1040944793265098752Nov 13 04:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Why Billionaires Don’t Really Like CapitalismNov 13 04:56
r_schestowitz"All brought to you by your local psychopathic Globalist-Leftists, many of whom pretend to be on the Right. When you know your logic, it all starts to become clearer and clearer, but you need enough humility to let go of the fixed (broken) sub-routines."Nov 13 04:56
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040928222788317184?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040928222788317184:0:0:0:1040940387831717888Nov 13 04:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Helping Students Keep Their Humanity by Not Signing Up for WarNov 13 04:56
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040915431197777920?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040915431197777920:0:0:0:1040990501862092800Nov 13 04:57
r_schestowitz"Uh-huh. I'll believe it when I see it. And even then, it's only at a surface level. No matter what they say, everything is recorded on the back end, backed up even past that, etc. Microsoft -- like Fakebook, is just not trustworthy."Nov 13 04:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Microsoft vows to ‘honor’ California’s sweeping privacy law across entire USNov 13 04:57
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1040199870869917696?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1040199870869917696:0:0:0:1041073754835697664Nov 13 04:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | The Linux Foundation Brought as Keynote Speakers People Vastly Worse Than Those Whom It Now 'Cancels' for Purely Political ReasonsNov 13 04:57
r_schestowitz"Fine, but what a sad state of affairs that you have to dedicate the entire first part of the article to establish your liberal democrat creds before going on to your point. As someone that is a staunch Trump supporter, it strikes me as insane you need to caveat your entire article to protect yourself from people supposedly on your own side."Nov 13 04:57
r_schestowitzThose are not "liberal democrat creds"; I'm not with thoseNov 13 04:58
r_schestowitzhttps://placeholderapi.wordpress.com/2019/11/12/heres-a-list-of-200-smartphones-that-can-run-linux-distributions/Nov 13 05:28
r_schestowitz"I really want to try out the Librem 5"Nov 13 05:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-placeholderapi.wordpress.com | Here’s a list of 200+ smartphones that can run #Linux distributions… | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Nov 13 05:28
r_schestowitzSome people have themNov 13 05:28
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16492852#c3fdeaa0e7eb01371ea17a163ef10931]Nov 13 05:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The only person to be punished will be the whistleblower, as usual! https://wikileaks.org/fishrot/database/Nov 13 05:42
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> wikileaks.org | Fishrot FilesNov 13 05:42
r_schestowitz“We’re sorry, but something went wrong.” ???Nov 13 05:42
r_schestowitzNov 13 05:42
r_schestowitztomgrz - about 3 hours ago Nov 13 05:42
r_schestowitzHmm, maybe not - I can get this showing in my FireFox browser:Nov 13 05:42
r_schestowitzhttps://wikileaks.org/fishrot/Nov 13 05:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-wikileaks.org | WikiLeaks - Fishrot FilesNov 13 05:42
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r_schestowitzoh, goodNov 13 05:43
r_schestowitz"tomgrz"Nov 13 05:43
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r_schestowitzNov 13 05:43
r_schestowitzThat's interesting - looks like it is being blocked here on Comcast in the US. I can access this page through Tor.Nov 13 05:43
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 05:43
r_schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/de/comments/duqj7s/former_mayor_of_munich_explains_what_microsoft/Nov 13 05:44
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 05:44
r_schestowitzhttps://www.linux-magazin.de/ausgaben/2019/10/interview-2/Nov 13 05:44
r_schestowitzHier ist das richtige Interview. Was wirklich interessant istNov 13 05:44
r_schestowitzNov 13 05:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Former mayor of Munich explains what Microsoft did in Munich and elsewhere in Europe in order to undermine GNU/Linux and impose Microsoft Windows on everybody : deNov 13 05:44
r_schestowitzNov 13 05:44
r_schestowitzlevel 2Nov 13 05:44
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linux-magazin.de | Münchens Ex-OB Christian Ude im InterviewNov 13 05:44
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 05:44
r_schestowitzSorry, vielleicht falsch formuliert. Die deutsche Quelle ist mir bekannt, aber die kann ich nicht an Englischsprachige Kollegen weitergeben, weil damit fangen die nichts an ;)Nov 13 05:44
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 05:45
r_schestowitzNee, war nur auf dem Sprung beim lesen und da ging der letzte Halbsatz unter ;)Nov 13 05:45
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 05:45
r_schestowitz/u/inthegardens, vielen Dank für deinen Beitrag. Leider wurde er aus dem folgenden Grund bzw. den folgenden Gründen entfernt:Nov 13 05:45
r_schestowitzMehrfacheinreichungen zum selben Thema sollen vermieden werden. Die Moderatoren behalten es sich vor, redundante Beiträge zu entfernen.[1] Wir bitten, die Diskussion im anderen Faden fortzuführen. https://redd.it/duhkupNov 13 05:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Limux: Münchens Ex-OB Christian Ude im Interview : deNov 13 05:45
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r_schestowitzWas für eine miese Linkschleuder ist das denn bitte? Leitet den Link mit völlig falschem Inhaltsangaben ein, beschwert sich, dass die US Medien da noch nicht aufgesprungen sind und wechselt dann auf einmal in eine historische Erzählung, wie die Seite mal vom BR verklagt wurde, weil sie eine Sendung übersetzt hatten. Konnte das Geschwafel keinen Absatz länger etragen. Wenn es eine gute englische Quelle für die Meldung gibt, damit Nov 13 05:45
r_schestowitzich sie an die nicht-deutschsprachigen Kollegen weiterschicken kann, sag bescheid.Nov 13 05:45
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r_schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/dusysd/former_mayor_of_munich_explains_what_microsoft/Nov 13 05:46
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r_schestowitzAhh, yes. I remember reading about this on slashdot for years.Nov 13 05:46
r_schestowitzThis is how microsoft makes its money. Strong arm tactics, and threats, not innovation.Nov 13 05:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Former mayor of Munich explains what Microsoft did in Munich and elsewhere in Europe in order to undermine GNU/Linux and impose Microsoft Windows on everybody : technologyNov 13 05:46
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r_schestowitzAs a Linux user, I can't help but feel VERY smug about this. I'll continue on my marry way using a platform that puts me in the driver's seat of my PC and doesn't do any of the following things that a properly designed OS should never do.Nov 13 05:46
r_schestowitzhttps://www.howtogeek.com/342871/hey-microsoft-stop-installing-apps-on-my-pc-without-asking/Nov 13 05:46
r_schestowitzhttps://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/12/13/windows_10_carry_on_slurping/Nov 13 05:46
r_schestowitzhttps://www.theverge.com/2017/3/17/14956540/microsoft-windows-10-ads-taskbar-file-explorerNov 13 05:47
r_schestowitzhttps://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-explains-why-windows-10-version-1809-deleted-user-files-523152.shtmlNov 13 05:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.howtogeek.com | Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps On My PC Without AskingNov 13 05:47
r_schestowitzYou can offer someone a free cup of premium Wine, but you can't make them drink it. And if they still want to drink the liquid shit that is Windows 10 instead, it's their choice. You can also point out that Windows XP and 7 never did any of the above to the computer operator, but they still won't care.Nov 13 05:47
r_schestowitzOnly thing I wish is that people would stop expecting me to look at or fix their Windows computers. I want a T-shirt that says "No, I will not fix your Windows PC.Nov 13 05:47
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.co.uk | Windows 10 can carry on slurping even when you're sure you yelled STOP! • The RegisterNov 13 05:47
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 05:47
r_schestowitzLol, look at the downvotes this comment is getting because it criticizes Microsoft, though is not off-topic in any way. How dare I point out the flaws in their product and express why it isn't fit for business; providing citations to support my claims is especially bad!Nov 13 05:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | Microsoft is infesting Windows 10 with annoying ads - The VergeNov 13 05:47
r_schestowitzWhile we're at it, here are some more reasons that Windows 10 is diarrhea. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/08/windows_10_activation/Nov 13 05:47
r_schestowitzhttps://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/08/microsoft-to-remove-full-refs-support-from-windows-10-pro-push-workstation-sku/Nov 13 05:47
r_schestowitzhttps://www.techradar.com/news/experts-say-windows-10-updates-are-a-mess-and-demand-microsoft-fix-themNov 13 05:47
r_schestowitzI wouldn't even use Windows 10 on my home PC, let alone in a business environment. When Microsoft is not packing it full of ads and nag screens not to use competitors' software like Firefox or taking away features like ReFS creation that were part of the initial product in order to sell them to me again, they're breaking things with untested updates!Nov 13 05:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.softpedia.com | Microsoft Explains Why Windows 10 Version 1809 Deleted User FilesNov 13 05:47
r_schestowitzI'm not surprised one bit that Microsoft would play shady games with politics to get their way; they did do the following after all! https://www.computerworld.com/article/3089071/customer-wins-10k-judgement-from-microsoft-over-unauthorized-windows-10-upgrade.htmlNov 13 05:47
r_schestowitzUltimately I am just really proud and glad that my day job does not consist of supporting their malware.Nov 13 05:47
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.co.uk | Windows 10 Pro goes Home as Microsoft fires up downgrade server • The RegisterNov 13 05:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-arstechnica.com | Microsoft to remove full ReFS support from Windows 10 Pro, push Workstation SKU | Ars TechnicaNov 13 05:47
r_schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/dum4u9/former_mayor_of_munich_explains_what_microsoft/Nov 13 05:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.techradar.com | Experts say Windows 10 updates are a mess and demand Microsoft fix them | TechRadarNov 13 05:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.computerworld.com | Customer wins $10K judgment from Microsoft over unauthorized Windows 10 upgrade | ComputerworldNov 13 05:47
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r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 05:47
r_schestowitzThis is a very bad article that does not reflect the original interview very well.Nov 13 05:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Former mayor of Munich explains what Microsoft did in Munich and elsewhere in Europe in order to undermine GNU/Linux and impose Microsoft Windows on everybody : europeNov 13 05:47
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r_schestowitzDo you know of an article that does?Nov 13 05:48
r_schestowitzContinue this threadNov 13 05:48
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 05:48
r_schestowitzIt's more like employees already know how to use MS products, training them to use Linux alternatives have a cost plus who do you call when you find a bug - sure you can file a bug report, but there is no guarantee it will be fixed with MS they will have a contract covering all that.Nov 13 05:48
r_schestowitzI've been using Linux for years (I develop linux based embedded product and software), but it's still hard to find an excel replacement - sure the open source spreadsheets work for small amounts of data, but try adding large quantities of data like a municipal would have and they will struggle (as I discovered some time ago when receiving spreadsheets from a local council will a large set of data points, openoffice/libre office couldn't Nov 13 05:48
r_schestowitzhandle it and just crashed, Excel opened it like it was no work at all)Nov 13 05:48
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r_schestowitzGovernments should be required to use Open Source software for transparency reasons alone.Nov 13 05:48
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r_schestowitzThis makes it impossible to reuse existing closed source components and having to rewrite a lot of existing software.Nov 13 05:48
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r_schestowitzAs much as Linux users would like it not to be, it's true that Linux is a horrible home/office system.Nov 13 05:48
r_schestowitzIt lacks a standardized, powerful GUI, drivers support is non-existent, many, many functionalities are just a tiny bit from working like they should and the solution is usually to do magic via the terminal.Nov 13 05:48
r_schestowitzI mean, in a server scenario those flaws are minor inconveniences that can be easily mitigated, I'm not saying that Linux is shit, but on a home machine it simply doesn't work.Nov 13 05:48
r_schestowitzSource: Installed Ubuntu on my laptop because it's old shit that cannot handle Windows 10. I am a programmer, so I should have at least some clue how to handle Linux, but still it gives me a headache when I'm using it in other context than a software development workstation.Nov 13 05:48
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 05:49
r_schestowitzThat isn't a news, but a opinion article, on a website that hate Microsoft. All read all of it and is almost everything the author opinion.Nov 13 05:49
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 05:49
r_schestowitzDid any of the upvoters actually read the article?Nov 13 05:49
r_schestowitzIt's not doing any favors to the open source advocates. It reads like Pravda with its over-the-top rhetoric. And worst of all, it never actually gets to the point that is promised by the headline.Nov 13 05:49
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 05:49
r_schestowitzMS stifled software development due to its dominant market position. It's a classic example of monopoly capitalism.Nov 13 05:49
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r_schestowitzmonopoly capitalismNov 13 05:49
r_schestowitzMonopolies are an aberration, not an economic system. They are often facilitated by government over-regulation creating high barriers-to-entry into the market.Nov 13 05:49
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r_schestowitzThis makes it impossible to reuse existing closed source components and having to rewrite a lot of existing software.Nov 13 05:49
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r_schestowitzYes, democracy is complicated.Nov 13 05:49
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r_schestowitzNot necessarily, it depends on licenses. Permissive licenses allow proprietary "components" inclusions and moreNov 13 05:50
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r_schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/europrivacy/comments/dum5fr/former_mayor_of_munich_explains_what_microsoft/?sort=topNov 13 05:50
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r_schestowitzI read the linked part of the German source. The former mayor is just saying that he think it is weird how the SPD (one of the major parties in Munich) went from supporting it fully to opposing Linux within a year. There aren't really any revelations in it.Nov 13 05:50
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Former mayor of Munich explains what Microsoft did in Munich and elsewhere in Europe in order to undermine GNU/Linux and impose Microsoft Windows on everybody : europrivacyNov 13 05:50
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r_schestowitzThere's lots more. The mayor candidate of the Green party also went 180° from "yay" to "nay" over night.Nov 13 05:50
r_schestowitzHe also had a meeting with Ballmer who suspended his skiing vacation, jumped around in his office and continued to offer him more and more millions of rebate. He also met with Bill Gates, who was incidentally in town at the time, in a van (plain on the outside and luxurious on the inside), who was simply baffled by his decision and thought he was completely cuckoo bananas.Nov 13 05:50
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r_schestowitzI'll ask Ude what he really thinks about it privately, should I run into him.Nov 13 05:50
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r_schestowitzMeh, lots of innuendo and no meat. Sure, Microsoft wants govts to use their products, and won't "support" govt with money or other aid if they decide not to use Microsoft. Sure, decision of what OS to use (either going to Linux or going away from it) is partly a political decision. Sure, in a company with hundreds of thousands of employees, in very competitive Marketing and Sales depts, you will find some internal emails using insulting Nov 13 05:50
r_schestowitzterms about people who use other products. Big deal.Nov 13 05:50
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r_schestowitzUsing Microsoft for any government business is incredibly misguided, to the point of stupidity.Nov 13 05:51
r_schestowitzMicrosoft is one of the most abusively monopolistic corporations in existence.Nov 13 05:51
r_schestowitzTheir business is half tech, and half dirty tricks. They are in no way to be trusted, whatsoever.Nov 13 05:51
r_schestowitzThis is a very big deal.Nov 13 05:51
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r_schestowitzI see nothing in there about dirty tricks.Nov 13 05:51
r_schestowitzI agree with most of what you say. But this article gives nothing solid about misdeeds by Microsoft or govt.Nov 13 05:51
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r_schestowitzI see nothing in there about dirty tricks.Nov 13 05:51
r_schestowitzsays the willfully blind man. Yahhhh right.Nov 13 05:51
r_schestowitzYou can talk about the earth being flat too while you're at it...Nov 13 05:51
r_schestowitzjust don't expect to be taken seriously.Nov 13 05:51
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r_schestowitzCan you quote a specific "dirty trick" from that article ?Nov 13 05:51
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r_schestowitzDoes it have to be from that article? MS is a convicted monopolist and has been fined multiple times by the EU commission.Nov 13 05:51
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r_schestowitzI referred to the article. You said I was blind for seeing nothing in that article. Now you admit there is nothing in the article about it.Nov 13 05:51
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r_schestowitzThat wasn't me.Nov 13 05:52
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r_schestowitzI'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.Nov 13 05:52
r_schestowitzMany computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.Nov 13 05:52
r_schestowitzThere really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: Nov 13 05:52
r_schestowitzthe whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.Nov 13 05:52
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r_schestowitzVery true, and governments would be very wise to switch over to it, and away from Microsoft's abusive spyware.Nov 13 05:52
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r_schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/StallmanWasRight/comments/duboqh/former_mayor_of_munich_explains_how_microsoft/Nov 13 06:04
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r_schestowitzThere is also a nice documentary about this on Youtube. Basically, a whole lot of people in the Berlin Municipality are Microsoft lobbyists. As long as they outnumber the non-lobbyists, there is no hope for any FOSS implementation there.Nov 13 06:04
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Former Mayor of Munich Explains How Microsoft Hates Linux | Techrights : StallmanWasRightNov 13 06:04
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r_schestowitzThere is also a nice documentary about this on Youtube.Nov 13 06:04
r_schestowitzHere's the link to the Doc, for those curious.Nov 13 06:04
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r_schestowitzSo it’s either:Nov 13 06:04
r_schestowitzthe town spends nothing and gets good quality software.Nov 13 06:05
r_schestowitza minority of the town gets paid, the town as a whole loses money and gets sh*tty software.Nov 13 06:05
r_schestowitzThat sounds illegal to me.Nov 13 06:05
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r_schestowitzIntroducing Linux in such an environment is not free... You’re going to, for example, go with Redhat and there will be annual fees to pay for support, possible use of OpenStack, ...Nov 13 06:05
r_schestowitzIt’s really not just downloading an ISO-image from the internet, installing it on some pc’s and calling it a day. You’ll need applications that work on Linux and in case of Munich that software will probably need to be custom made to the wishes/requirements of the city.Nov 13 06:05
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r_schestowitzSummed up, you will always have to pay for infrastructure and support, either by having a vendor to do it for you or to pay your own team to do it, no matter if you use FOSS or proprietary software. TANSTAAFL.Nov 13 06:05
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r_schestowitzWhat is that acronym at the end?Nov 13 06:05
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r_schestowitz"there is no such thing as a free lunch"Nov 13 06:05
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r_schestowitzGuessing, 'There is no such thing as a free lunch."Nov 13 06:05
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r_schestowitz"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch."Nov 13 06:05
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r_schestowitzPeople talk shit about IBM acquiring RedHat and praise Microsoft because of the recent involvement with OSS but don't realize that historically Microsoft has been trying to kill Linux hard while IBM has worked very closely with open source.Nov 13 06:06
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r_schestowitzEmbrace. Extend. Extinguish. I cant believe such a large part of the FOSS community is falling for it.Nov 13 06:06
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r_schestowitzThey want Linux, just not on customer side. Linux is good if it is Azure and bad if it is on customer side.Nov 13 06:06
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r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:06
r_schestowitzThat is not what is happening though because microsoft has not created their own linux desktop distribution (embrace/extend). This is probably more along the lines of different sections within microsoft doing different things.Nov 13 06:06
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r_schestowitzBut they have made WSL? I agree that we can't be too sure of what microsoft is going for at this point, but they made the first few steps down the path if they choose to go that route againNov 13 06:06
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:06
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:06
r_schestowitzWSL seems like a desperate attempt to hold some users by providing access to basic tools. But it is still utter shit, it really only provides only the basics, no X11 or real low level access. And also there is no really usable terminal emulator for Windows. ConEmu has a lot of problems, although according to their docs these stem from problems of the underlying Windows stuff they are using, which makes no difference to me. I am really Nov 13 06:06
r_schestowitztired of reading praise for Microsoft in regards to their WSL. No offense to you, just had to get this out.Nov 13 06:06
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:07
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:07
r_schestowitzHave you used it? I'm guessing no because it fucking kicks ass. Never had a single problem with conemu.Nov 13 06:07
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:07
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:07
r_schestowitzYes, I use it at work, where I am kind of thankful that at least I have something on Windows. Better than nothing, but yes, not great.Nov 13 06:07
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:07
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:07
r_schestowitzWhat problems have you had with Conemu? Just curious as to why my experience with WSL seems to be so much better than others.Nov 13 06:07
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r_schestowitzIt fucks up line wrapping commands.Nov 13 06:07
r_schestowitzIt sometimes does strange fuckups of the upper most line (have seen that on colleagues' PCs too)Nov 13 06:07
r_schestowitzNo scrolling in a pager (less)Nov 13 06:07
r_schestowitzCopy Pasting Today i found out, that for copying you don't use the right mouse button, but the middle or ESC. Right is then for pasting. Interesting.Nov 13 06:07
r_schestowitzQuite slowNov 13 06:07
r_schestowitzHad some more problems I can't remember right nowNov 13 06:07
r_schestowitzI also don't want to shit on the ConEmu developers, I'm sure they did a good job for what is possible on windows, but for me it is just not even close to a usable linux replacement or a part of it.Nov 13 06:07
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:07
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:07
r_schestowitz....and gave it up in favor of a VM (WSL2) because they couldn't hack it.Nov 13 06:07
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:07
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:08
r_schestowitzAzure SphereOS, a Microsoft Linux distributionNov 13 06:08
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:08
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:08
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r_schestowitzedited 1 day agoNov 13 06:08
r_schestowitzThat is not a desktop distribution. Many uses linux servers in their set ups, the somewhat unique aspect about the Munich implementation was that they also replaces desktops with Linux. In the more common scenario that servers are replaces Microsoft would still have the client/desktop business and they would probably not act as forcefully as they did now.Nov 13 06:08
r_schestowitzMicrosoft has AFAIK never embraced desktop linux, SpehereOS is a server OS.Nov 13 06:08
r_schestowitzMicrosoft has integrated a the Linux Kernel via virtual machines into WSL2 now but that's still far from an embrace of desktop linux or even a real linux distribution since it relies on a lot of windows stuff to function.Nov 13 06:08
r_schestowitzThe "embrace" is real if microsoft sells an linux desktop distribution to their clients, not before that. AFAIK Microsoft has never directly supported or been contributing to anything within the gnome/freedesktop/xorg space.Nov 13 06:08
r_schestowitzMicrosoft has only embraced linux for real on the server/cloud provider side.Nov 13 06:08
r_schestowitzI just don't see the embrace or the extend of this situation.Nov 13 06:08
r_schestowitzSure, I guess that WSL2 can be used to run GTK Linux apps under windows or something. If you see that as an embrace+extend of the Linux desktop it's up to you, I don't.Nov 13 06:08
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:08
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:08
r_schestowitzCould it not be the beginning stages of Embrace?Nov 13 06:08
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:08
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:08
r_schestowitzThey’re well into extend. They have PowerShell for Linux if you’re a real masochist.Nov 13 06:08
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:08
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:08
r_schestowitzYeah I still wonder why anybody want that crap on Linux? Why using WSL if I an have a Real GNU/Linux instead. Why the hell should I use Edge on Linux or wtf is going on with Microsoft and their Plans to bring the Defender to Linux? Are they compleatly nuts? The only Virus a MS based Linux distro could have is their own faulty crap o.ONov 13 06:08
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:08
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r_schestowitzedited 1 day agoNov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzYeah, maybe.Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzI don't think there are any real competitors to microsoft on the desktop side except maybe Apple marketshare wise right now. AFAIK all major players that sells or has sold supported linux desktop OSes (redhat/suse/ubuntu ?) have not yet made that into any kind of commercial success.Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzFrom what I understand Microsofts target with WSL(2) seems to be making Linux based developer tools available in windows, not really aimed for end user applications.Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzWho knows if they will begin to change that target into something else though.Nov 13 06:09
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzYet. I'm positive it's coming.Nov 13 06:09
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r_schestowitz57 pointsNov 13 06:09
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzI can't help but be reminded that Microsoft already had their own version of UNIX back in the 1980's. It was called Xenix. Xenix ran on the Motorola 68000 as well as the Intel 80286.Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzThey basically gave it up. Probably because they had to pay licenses for it. They don't like sharing.Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzSo, now they have bought a seat on the Linux Foundation and have their own version of Linux.Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzWhy do people think this is a good thing?Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzMicrosoft invented Embrace, Extinguish and Extend. They are the king of dirty tricks.Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzIf they had wanted to produce UNIX, they could have continued developing Xenix. That's not the goal.Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzThe point of Microsoft is to exploit the user, full stop. Not to empower the user. Exploit the user.Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzThat is the underlying core philosophy of that company. It has never changed and will never change.Nov 13 06:09
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:09
r_schestowitzThe lawnmower can't have empathy...Nov 13 06:09
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:09
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:09
r_schestowitz"You see, there are two types of software: Software that the users control, and software that controls the user."Nov 13 06:09
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:10
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:10
r_schestowitzThat's basically the goal of every company...Nov 13 06:10
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:10
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:10
r_schestowitzThere's "being a company that makes money" and there's "being a company that is willing to do literally anything and everything to make money, including dirty tactics, corruption, and being evil"Nov 13 06:10
r_schestowitzDon't conflate what Microsoft is doing with regular capitalismNov 13 06:10
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:10
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:10
r_schestowitzI'd say just the corporate giants are and that's we think of most often with technology.Nov 13 06:10
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:10
r_schestowitzCan we give them the benefit of the doubt that things have changed since Xenix and today developing Linux would be more advantageous? Of course not from a moral standpoint but from a prestige/profit standpoint. After all they couldnt give a shit about morality, it's about not losing their prestige, so they must jump onto the Linux trend to clean their image.Nov 13 06:10
r_schestowitzThe point of Microsoft is to exploit the user, full stop. Not to empower the user. Exploit the user.Nov 13 06:10
r_schestowitzThe concept of exploitation is not unusual in corporate circles, it's basically their fuel.Nov 13 06:10
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r_schestowitz21 pointsNov 13 06:10
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:10
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:10
r_schestowitzUnfortunately most of the world has bought the "Microsoft <3 Linux" lie at the moment. Let's hope they wake up, or there are enough people in the FOSS community that remember the old days, before Microsoft can do any significant damage. They have already gone past the embrace and extend phases, now all that is left is to extinguish.Nov 13 06:10
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:10
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:10
r_schestowitzlmao how could microsoft ever extinguish Linux? the fucking internet runs on Linux.Nov 13 06:10
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r_schestowitz10 pointsNov 13 06:10
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:11
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:11
r_schestowitzAll it takes is key representatives at key points. Bigger things have fallen quicker. Remember Novell?Nov 13 06:11
r_schestowitzLike it or not, Miscrosoft is positioning themselves perfectly to disrupt the development of Linux going forward. If they can get in at the source (the Kernel, OpenSSH etc), and somehow find a way to make these unviable, the rest of the internet will follow them.Nov 13 06:11
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:11
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:11
r_schestowitzYes soon their kernel & compiler contributions will have a negative effect & we'll probably realize going back to Linux Desktop 2006 will be painful, but, necessary.Nov 13 06:11
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r_schestowitz13 pointsNov 13 06:11
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:11
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:11
r_schestowitzIt's more slow and insideous things. More and more FOSS projects are willing to implement things like DRM in order to "allow modern technologies (like netflix) to work properly". Unfortunately this is slowly undermining FOSS, which makes me thing Linux won't ever truly "die" in the traditional sense (where it stops being maintained and the project officially halted) but that it will more morph into a corporate friendly OS that's Nov 13 06:11
r_schestowitzbasically as locked down and controlled as Windows and Mac OS. At this point, if it has less general market share, and is less generally "usable" with less software support, there will be literally no point in anyone using it for anything.Nov 13 06:11
r_schestowitzAt that point, Linux as a concept is effectively dead, even if the OS itself survives.Nov 13 06:11
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:11
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:11
r_schestowitzYeah but the fight will go on, it's not like the power of freedom and creativity will die with Linux. People will always fight for freedom, and will come up with alternatives if we get to that situation.Nov 13 06:11
r_schestowitzI think they will corrupt Linux eventually but they will not be able to penetrate into it's core of it, so the damage wont be that big.Nov 13 06:11
r_schestowitzAt that point all it would take is a fork in the hands of a competent organization to carry on the spark of liberty.Nov 13 06:11
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:11
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:11
r_schestowitzWhat an absolute load of bullshit FUD. Which tinfoil hat wearing neck bearded morons are upvoting this?? The ENTIRE internet runs on Linux, the vast majority - billions of smart phones run Linux which is maintained by fucking Google. Linux and *nix are embedded in everything. Are you seriously saying Novell was bigger than Linux is?Nov 13 06:11
r_schestowitzGet some perspective, goddamn armchair experts.Nov 13 06:11
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:11
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:11
r_schestowitzDo you seriously consider Android to be following the goals of Linux? A non-freedom-respecting, proprietary, locked down OS filled with spyware? Having the same kernel doesn't count.Nov 13 06:11
r_schestowitzEven if Linux survives this onslaught, it won't come out the same on the other side.Nov 13 06:11
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:12
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:12
r_schestowitzLinux is not affected by “tHiS oNsLaUgHt”... Linux is a kernel of thousands of operating systems, Android is one of them. Android is an operating system. Android is not Linux, it’s built on the Linux kernel.Nov 13 06:12
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:12
r_schestowitzHaving the same kernel doesn't count.Nov 13 06:12
r_schestowitzLinux is the kernel. Linus was anti-GPLv3 and pro-Tivoization. Those are not the goals of Linux, they are the goals of the GNU project.Nov 13 06:12
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:12
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:12
r_schestowitzYou are being downvoted but you are totally correct here. Novell was never anywhere near as big a force as Linux is; to even make such a comparison is absurd.Nov 13 06:12
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:12
r_schestowitzYou are underestimating how much damage can greed cause, it's bigger than a Nuke.Nov 13 06:12
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r_schestowitz“[...] what followed is a youth mindlessly prostituting itself on the Internet, passively accepting to get their data robbed from by tax evading megacorps whilst the fate of a rising share of younger people boils down close to poverty.”Nov 13 06:12
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:12
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:12
r_schestowitzThere were two particular problems with the switch to LiMux in Munich that are probably an obstacle in any such scenario. The departments used a lot of custom software written for the Windows platform, so even with a functioning Linux desktop, they had to connect to a Windows Terminal Server to access their applications.Nov 13 06:12
r_schestowitzThe other problem I heard on a talk that was given by the guy in charge of the switch (name escapes me): They had loads of custom applications in every department, most of them written in Excel, to solve tiny local problems, and those proved to be a tough nut to crack. I think the magnitude of the change was underestimated, time frames were unrealistic, and there was a lot of frustration on all sides involved.Nov 13 06:12
r_schestowitzIn my opinion, the switch back to Windows does not make sense at all at this point, though, because it will be just as expensive to roll back all the changes. Or roll forward in some way. ;) The IT world is much more cross-platform these days.Nov 13 06:12
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:13
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:13
r_schestowitzThat can't be right. MS loves Linux.Nov 13 06:13
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:13
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:13
r_schestowitzOkay, why doesn't this website use a secure connection?Nov 13 06:13
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r_schestowitz8 pointsNov 13 06:13
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:13
r_schestowitzProbably because it's shitty.Nov 13 06:13
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:13
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:13
r_schestowitzWell. Most of the staff had to be retrained to use their custom distro and they hated it. IT support and management was a nightmare. I have to agree on those points. I dont think the project role out was planned perfectly. Having just Linux can be done but it's not a real replacement for Microsoft services and features. It's just an alternative and the requires everyone to get out of their way just to use it.Nov 13 06:13
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r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:13
r_schestowitzYou can fix all those issues if you're using FOSS. You can't fix anything if you're using proprietary solutions, you can only beg, pray and hope.Nov 13 06:14
r_schestowitzThey could've supported local companies and there would be competition between those companies. Now they're supporting a global monopoly that's spying on them and doesn't pay any taxes in Munich.Nov 13 06:14
r_schestowitzBig changes like this take time, of course, like it took decades to get from pen & paper to the MS solutions they had. And now they're back at square one.Nov 13 06:14
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r_schestowitz6 pointsNov 13 06:14
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:14
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:14
r_schestowitzHow can you use Foss to completely replace active directory, group policies, sso, etc, and improve use experience at the same time? Don't regurgitate the same thing everyone else says. I'm playing the devils advocate here so let's look at this issue from a different point of view.Nov 13 06:14
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:14
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:14
r_schestowitzHow can you use FOSS to completely replace Internet Explorer, ActiveX and Flash?Nov 13 06:14
r_schestowitzThe only difference between FOSS and proprietary is the license. It's perfectly possible to create FOSS alternatives for every proprietary piece of software. In theory, this should be easier and cheaper than using proprietary software because you can use and enhance existing projects while companies like Microsoft usually don't care much about that because they can't sell code someone else wrote, which means every company has their own Nov 13 06:14
r_schestowitzimplementation, each one with different quirks, bugs and vulnerabilities and no chance of fixing them unless the companies wants to.Nov 13 06:14
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:14
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:14
r_schestowitzRight, how can free open-source software replace proprietary software that most companies rely on and have support contracts for? It can't. Most of the Foss is alternatives and does not and function as well. That's why there are contracts with Microsoft and Microsoft must support software as per contractual obligation. The only other solutions out there are the ones offered by redhat. Those are used but they don't solve all the issues. Nov 13 06:14
r_schestowitzIt will be another 20 years before Foss can take over l. I bet by that time windows will be completely free.Nov 13 06:14
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r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:14
r_schestowitzDoesn't google use Linux desktops internally? Speaking from ignorance, but I would wager if they're doing it, it's feasible to deploy Linux desktops in scale in a business, especially if the users are predominantly office users using the Google suite or other web-based applications.Nov 13 06:14
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r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:14
r_schestowitzThe question was specifically about migrating from a deeply entrenched Microsoft ecosystem to GNU/Linux and free software. I don't know if Google ever had that issue but the places in question are so tied to Microsoft that they either need to throw it all away and build from the ground up or migrate to ersatz reimplementations of Microsoft things that might not work as well.Nov 13 06:14
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r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:15
r_schestowitzGoogle is a software development company. Most of the Google employees are capable enough to fix their shit and Google as a company is large enough to develop its own in house corporate administration solution. There's a need of a FOSS OS that's as terrible and restrictive and intricate as Windows for Joe The Regulars in corporate world.Nov 13 06:15
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:15
r_schestowitzIt will be another 20 years before Foss can take over l. I bet by that time windows will be completely free.Nov 13 06:15
r_schestowitzNo, this situation will never change unless someone with tons of money decides that FOSS alternatives are needed. Creating a new market from scratch means very long-term and very high-risk investments, so you can forget private investors.Nov 13 06:15
r_schestowitzMunich had something going, and then they dumped whatever little progress they had made.Nov 13 06:15
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r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:15
r_schestowitzI bet by that time windows will be completely free.Nov 13 06:15
r_schestowitzProbably, but as a nearly cloud-only service where you can't login without giving up all hopes of privacy and control of your computer and the programs that run on it.Nov 13 06:15
r_schestowitzFree for users, but expensive and vendor-locked for companies.Nov 13 06:15
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r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:15
r_schestowitzHe said, underneath an article about a city which did all those things.Nov 13 06:15
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:15
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:15
r_schestowitzSSO is easy (via FOSS) and AD sucks and shouldn't be used, other than to provide required contracts a la Oracle because the Byzantine nightmare that is proprietary user management is, by design, unmaintainable.Nov 13 06:15
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:15
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:15
r_schestowitzSSO is easy (via FOSS) and AD sucksNov 13 06:15
r_schestowitzCan you be more specific?Nov 13 06:15
r_schestowitzAnd why does AD suck and shouldn't be used? Sounds like you're in rant mode.Nov 13 06:15
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:16
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzAD sucks and shouldn't be usedNov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzWhat's your alternative practical solution to it then? AD is useful and has uses in large corporate environments.Nov 13 06:16
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:16
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzUser groups? Wazuh/Automated file permissions monitoring- There's no reason to need to need a GUI, but I'm sure FOSS GUIs exist if somebody really needs to see it in some hierarchical tree.Nov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzIt really depends the context and usage, to be honest.Nov 13 06:16
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:16
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzAD doesn't only manage file permissions. That's easy with any LDAP implementation and user groups and even Posix ACLs. AD can change how operating system works on a fundamental level using "policies". Admins can control almost anything a user can do on their computer. From limiting customizations like desktop background to how and when updates are delivered on the computer and which applications from which channels can be installed. Nov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzThere are solutions like KDE's Kiosk but they are limited in functionality and lack the deep integration AD has.Nov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzI think systemd goes into this direction and in the future we will be able to do similar stuff. However I guess the spoiled Linux user inside us will hate it.Nov 13 06:16
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:16
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzYeah, what you're describing is permissions to change files, and there's nothing AD does that anyone but a masochist would need to do so.Nov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzEdit: What you mean by 'deep integration' isn't public purely because it's so simple to do that it isn't worth publishing.Nov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzUnix pipes are our salvation.Nov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzDo ONE simple thing CORRECTLY.Nov 13 06:16
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r_schestowitzSmallerBorkNov 13 06:16
r_schestowitz12 pointsNov 13 06:16
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:16
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzA lot of places need you to learn new software anyway though. Currently my company has all employees learn a system from the late 70s that runs inside of PuTTY and IT hates it more than anyone. It's unlikely that they will ever upgrade it.Nov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzWindows updates are also a problem especially since no one willingly restarts the computers.Nov 13 06:16
r_schestowitzI agree that using a custom distro would be difficult unless it's just Debian with whatever software they needed put on the iso.Nov 13 06:16
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:17
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:17
r_schestowitzNew software is always introduced. But the problem is when the entire table gets flipped upside down (everything changes). Staff productivity comes to a halt. Windows updates can be handled with weekend reboots and HR can deal with that if there is resistance.Nov 13 06:17
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r_schestowitz5 pointsNov 13 06:17
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:17
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:17
r_schestowitzMost users click their icons and use the software they've been given. Linux DEs are easy enough to use, KDE, Cinnamon and XFCE can be quite familiar for a Windows user. This idea that it's some insane change that will stump the average user is pure fiction; unless they need more than their icons, they'll do just fine.Nov 13 06:17
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:17
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:17
r_schestowitzNo one would have trouble with a Windows like DE. Microsoft makes changes to their DE in each release but companies don't shut down because of an upgrade. Some of my coworkers actually had to learn bash for some reason. I think it was for database operations or something.Nov 13 06:17
r_schestowitzThe real issue is all the embedded software we use. We have X-ray machines, P&P machines, and laser engravers some of which have moving parts that will hurt you if you aren't careful. Even if somone made all that work in WINE, safe operation isn't guaranteed by the vendor anymore. Using Windows in some places and Linux distros in others just wouldn't make sense.Nov 13 06:17
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:17
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:17
r_schestowitzI would imagine switching users over to XFCE would overall be a boon, considering it will not be changing on them lol.Nov 13 06:17
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r_schestowitz7 pointsNov 13 06:17
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:17
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:17
r_schestowitzThe answer here isn't to just run back to Microsoft's teet. Instead, you should undergo the teething process learning the new distro, and pay developers to replace any Microsoft services which aren't available. Even if it ends up costing $100,000,000, it's worth it to not be dependent on a single company going forward.Nov 13 06:17
r_schestowitzThat said, most of the "It can't do everything the Microsoft one can" argument is usually facetious anyway. Yes, it's technically true, but not many organisations actually use all the features of the Microsoft service, and can usually find ways around the systems they do use (even if it means changing their workflow slightly). Instead of sitting down with developers and IT staff and doing some problem solving, we instead see management Nov 13 06:17
r_schestowitztypes saying "no we need this specific feature" and leaving it at that.Nov 13 06:17
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r_schestowitzedited 1 day agoNov 13 06:17
r_schestowitzI have talked to multiple city employees back when switching back was discussed and the consensus seemed to be that it was a rough start, but now everything more or less worked. (To the degree IT "works" in public operations) Biggest problem was everybody outside using Microsoft office and compatibility issues with that. Undertone seemed to be that they rather remained, not because they loved Linux, but because they really didn’t want Nov 13 06:17
r_schestowitzto go through the hazel of switching OS again.Nov 13 06:17
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r_schestowitz8 pointsNov 13 06:18
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:18
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:18
r_schestowitzthey hated itNov 13 06:18
r_schestowitzWell they hated all kinds of things, like they weren’t able to use their working calendar on mobiles or email wasn’t working.Nov 13 06:18
r_schestowitzIf you read the surveys/studies, most of their problems weren’t Limux related at all - let alone Linux related.Nov 13 06:18
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:18
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:18
r_schestowitzThe common one I've heard was "Well this doesn't look like Windows." Asking them to explain boiled down to, "Where's MyComputer icon?"... <sigh>Nov 13 06:18
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r_schestowitz2 pointsNov 13 06:18
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:18
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:18
r_schestowitzNFS, RPC, SMB? Or something more user-centric like "My Computer" icon?Nov 13 06:18
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:18
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:18
r_schestowitzGood to see someone who actually read that article.Nov 13 06:18
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:18
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:18
r_schestowitzI'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:Nov 13 06:18
r_schestowitz[r/technologyaddicted] [ ] Former Mayor of Munich Explains How Microsoft Hates Linux | TechrightsNov 13 06:18
r_schestowitz If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads. (Info / ^Contact)Nov 13 06:18
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:18
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:18
r_schestowitzThe Techrights.org article has little to do with the German interview and does in no way represent the content of that German language article in Linux-Magazin.de. A pity.Nov 13 06:18
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r_schestowitz1 pointNov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzedited 1 day agoNov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzCan't we at least try to nuance this? Microsoft probably dislikes OpenOffice and the likes because they develop Microsoft Office, a competing office platform that I've heard too brings them some money, so we're looking at competition here. This article reeks of bias and looks like written by an amateur, and I'm questioning the evil practices here.Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzAfter Munich administration [was] left with the choice of forced upgrade (= $$$) or no further support from Microsoft Ude mentions having watched a documentary in the last year of similar Microsoft lobbying attemptsNov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz(this looks like the heart of the mud that is this article)Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzWhat is this bullshit in particular about? It's a "lobbying attempt" now to stop providing support if your customer walk out of a contract unless your customer upgrades obsolete software to get said support? Complain about the terms and how you can't keep using decade old stuff or whatever this is really about if you want but it sure isn't lobbying.Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzLongtime readers of ours saw us covering many angles of this since around 2007. The subject has not been explored by the media for at least half a year, which makes one wonder; is media in general dying or is media discouraged from revisiting this matter?Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzMaybe, just maybe it's not a worldwide conspiracy (there generally aren't those) but because you're reporting on non-stories on how a city can choose between following a contract or stepping out.Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzThe problem here from a FOSS perspective is clearly that they did not feel like they would manage to close their Microsoft support channels altogether and thought the added cost to use Microsoft software was then worth it and some are now all sour grapes about it.Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzBut there is really zero controversy in being so overly dependant on Microsoft products that you can't step out. I wish they had planned better for abandoning Microsoft 100% (SERVER and CLIENT and SUPPORT) before moving to FOSS in the first place. This reads like a half assed effort where they half used MS shit all along while using FOSS and still had these contractual dependencies on them, so excuse me but WTF was the point. City image?Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/TruthLeaks/comments/duc6a6/microsoft_windows_is_ds_software_devised_by_intel/Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz"The Satanic Legion"Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/ducnai/former_mayor_of_munich_explains_what_microsoft/Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 06:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Windows is [DS] Software Devised by Intel Communities, Foisted On People [WW] to Spy On Them, Run Darknet Pedo Networks, Though Secure Linux Is Free // Frmr Mayor of Munich Explains : TruthLeaksNov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzlevel 1Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzKormoraanNov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzDebian Testing main, Alpine, ReactOS and OpenBSD on the sidesNov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz234 pointsNov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Former mayor of Munich explains what Microsoft did in Munich and elsewhere in Europe in order to undermine GNU/Linux and impose Microsoft Windows on everybody : linuxmasterraceNov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz“We assume our readers are wise enough to understand that Microsoft is the same old corrupt company, with new lies and PR.”Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz...this.Nov 13 06:19
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r_schestowitz62 pointsNov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:19
r_schestowitzBut Microsoft ♥ Linux!Nov 13 06:19
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r_schestowitzOther (please edit)Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz43 pointsNov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:19
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitzMicrosoft ♥ LinuxNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz... on top of a Hyper-V VM running on Windows 10 Pro.Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitzlevel 4Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitzaaaantoineNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitzUnity is OKNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz40 pointsNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz... on top of a Hyper-V VM running on Windows 10 Pro whatever you want as long as it's on Azure.Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitzlevel 5Nov 13 06:20
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r_schestowitzOther (please edit)Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz15 pointsNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitzthat too. But also Hyper-V.Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitzI mean Ideally you be renting a Windows Server VM on Azure and then run a Microsoft-patched Linux kernel on Hyper-V on that.Nov 13 06:20
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r_schestowitzyelow13Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz7 pointsNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitzWhy would they recommend that? Azure is already windows serversNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitzlevel 7Nov 13 06:20
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r_schestowitzOther (please edit)Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz5 pointsNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitzedited 2 days agoNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitzthey can charge more for Windows VMs.Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitzAnd given that nested VMs still aren't a thing, you'll fall back to software emulation. you're gonna need an extra beefy VM for that.Nov 13 06:20
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r_schestowitzDabianNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz10 pointsNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:20
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:20
r_schestowitzMicrosoft ♥ LinuxNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitzAs a PR stunt to promote their proprietary and datamining products.Nov 13 06:21
r_schestowitzFTFYNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitzlevel 5Nov 13 06:21
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r_schestowitzWindows peasantNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz2 pointsNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitzMeanwhile we got fat64 and .net core....Nov 13 06:21
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r_schestowitzOther (please edit)Nov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz2 pointsNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitzooh, fat64! I can't wait to use that.Nov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz.NET CoreNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitzthat's a lot like Swift for Linux.Nov 13 06:21
r_schestowitzA language without 90% of the libraries is 💩Nov 13 06:21
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r_schestowitzmirhNov 13 06:21
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r_schestowitz1 pointNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitzThey are also opening most of them and planning to kind-of-merge with mono.Nov 13 06:21
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r_schestowitz1 pointNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitzOh really? Okay then, that doesn't sound like Core at all.Nov 13 06:21
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r_schestowitzWindows peasantNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz2 pointsNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:21
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:21
r_schestowitzFirst versions of core were indeed barebone.Nov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz3.0 is already on feature parity with the old "framework".Nov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz5 will be the next big unified thing AFAIK.Nov 13 06:22
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r_schestowitz5 pointsNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitzOr WSL where they try their darndest to avoid GPLNov 13 06:22
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r_schestowitzBipartisan_IntegralNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz19 pointsNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitzPeople behave like over-fitted neural networks. Microsoft has become a cloud/data company and all the good and bad things that come with that.Nov 13 06:22
r_schestowitzI'm not making an argument for whether it's good or bad, but saying 'same old' is just ignorant.Nov 13 06:22
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r_schestowitzYoungster_Bens_EkansNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz67 pointsNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitzNobody is trying to suggest they're still peddling windows 95. They're saying they still use the same shitty underhanded business practices they always have.Nov 13 06:22
r_schestowitzlevel 3Nov 13 06:22
r_schestowitzKormoraanNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitzDebian Testing main, Alpine, ReactOS and OpenBSD on the sidesNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz28 pointsNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitzsaying 'same old' is just ignorant.Nov 13 06:22
r_schestowitzsed s/ignorant/factual/Nov 13 06:22
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r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitzExcept that only really started with Ballmer, and he's gone. We haven't really seen EEE since then.Nov 13 06:22
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r_schestowitzI chew larch.Nov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz6 pointsNov 13 06:22
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:23
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r_schestowitz122 pointsNov 13 06:23
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r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitzImportant topic, horrendous writing style.Nov 13 06:23
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r_schestowitzBeaversAreTastyNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz51 pointsNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitzProbably because it is heavily reliant on translated quotes. At lot of it just reads like someone ran a German article through Google Translate.Nov 13 06:23
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r_schestowitzMovieMcMovieFaceNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz20 pointsNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitzSo true. I couldn’t even finish the articleNov 13 06:23
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r_schestowitz8 pointsNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitzThe assumptions in the beginning did it for me.Nov 13 06:23
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r_schestowitz14 pointsNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitzThe German one is fine.Nov 13 06:23
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r_schestowitzChimaekIsDelishNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz12 pointsNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:23
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:23
r_schestowitzI think they’re going for a punky ‘zine kind of feel.Nov 13 06:23
r_schestowitzIt really undermines their own message though. Makes them look like keyboard revolutionaries.Nov 13 06:24
r_schestowitzWould it kill them to at least try for a more formal and journalistic writing style?Nov 13 06:24
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r_schestowitzelliptic_hyperboloidNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitzUbuntu-Gnome PlebNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz7 pointsNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitzSomeone should do the writer a favor and remove the parenthesis keys from their keyboard.Nov 13 06:24
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r_schestowitz3 pointsNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitzI can't believe there isn't somebody who cares about this and can accurately translate German to English. It is so important to get this out there.Nov 13 06:24
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r_schestowitzChimaekIsDelishNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz1 pointNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitzDeutsche Probleme, für Deutsche.Nov 13 06:24
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r_schestowitzVash63Nov 13 06:24
r_schestowitzGlorious ArchNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz2 pointsNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz1 day agoNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitzYeah, it's an interesting topic that would be nice to hear more about from people directly involved in Munich but this article is absolutely terrible. Both incoherent and full of obvious bias that makes it hard to take seriously.Nov 13 06:24
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r_schestowitzalfons_kackebartNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz0 pointsNov 13 06:24
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r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitzGlad to hear I'm not alone. I was very confused by it.Nov 13 06:24
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r_schestowitzKryptonlineNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitzGlorious OpenSuseNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz78 pointsNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:24
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:24
r_schestowitzI went to the german article the english one had linked (yes I am a german who's even living in munich) and it seems that at some point politicians were not comfortable with this "open source magic" and wanted to get back onto the microsoft trail. Why? Half the city didn't understand. And neither do I. Such wasted opportunities.Nov 13 06:25
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r_schestowitz52 pointsNov 13 06:25
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:25
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:25
r_schestowitzWhy? Half the city didn't understand.Nov 13 06:25
r_schestowitzCan't be good if it doesn't cost moneyNov 13 06:25
r_schestowitz/sNov 13 06:25
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r_schestowitzKryptonlineNov 13 06:25
r_schestowitzGlorious OpenSuseNov 13 06:25
r_schestowitz22 pointsNov 13 06:25
r_schestowitz·Nov 13 06:25
r_schestowitz2 days agoNov 13 06:25
r_schestowitzConservative old politicians threatened by better technology.Nov 13 06:25
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r_schestowitzThe actual funny thing is that both the former mayor (who was pro-linux) and the new mayor (who killed Linux) are part of the same party SPD (which is probably somewhere centrist as it gets anyway)Nov 13 06:25
r_schestowitzin the interview he also talks about another mayor candidate which wanted to replace Linux with WindowsNov 13 06:25
r_schestowitzwho is part of the Die Grünen/Green Party, which is considered more liberalNov 13 06:25
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r_schestowitzI thought it was because Microsoft promised a new HQ and job growth in Munich.Nov 13 06:25
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r_schestowitzAre you from Munich?Nov 13 06:26
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r_schestowitzAs I mentioned, yes.Nov 13 06:26
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r_schestowitzThat is written so incoherently that even knowing what happened in Munich I've no idea what the author is saying.Nov 13 06:26
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r_schestowitzWhat's the incoherent;dr or tl;dr of what happened in Munich?Nov 13 06:26
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r_schestowitzWhen support for the Windows version Munich was using ended, Microsoft was telling them to buy some alternative for a very high price.Nov 13 06:26
r_schestowitzMunich felt pushed around by the price demanded, and decided it didn't like being dependent on a monopolist who could dictate terms.Nov 13 06:26
r_schestowitzThey did some research and calculated that switching to Linux would be equally efficient, cheaper in the long run, and an improvement in terms of data protection.Nov 13 06:27
r_schestowitzWhen the reigning mayor ended his last term, a year or so after the transition was finished, the new mayor reverted everything back to Windows because, as he more or less admitted, basically he was too lazy to get used to a new system, and in turn Microsoft moved its headquarters into Munich.Nov 13 06:27
r_schestowitzExpensive, despicable, stupid.Nov 13 06:27
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r_schestowitzbasically he was too lazy to get used to a new systemNov 13 06:27
r_schestowitzInertia is any company’s single biggest asset. Even if they fail to grow, they can surf along on existing demand for a good long time.Nov 13 06:27
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r_schestowitzwhen you put it that way, Microsoft didnt do anything to Munich, the new mayor did. article should be titled "what the new mayor did in Munich"Nov 13 06:27
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r_schestowitzand in turn Microsoft moved its headquarters into Munich.Nov 13 06:27
r_schestowitzThere was definitely some power play from Microsoft involved...Nov 13 06:27
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r_schestowitzsure, that's a factor, but in the end because the mayor didn't want to learn Linux.Nov 13 06:27
r_schestowitzthe way the headline is worded its like Microsoft was actively forcing them to do something, or removing all the options. it sure sounds like they just offered a deal if Munich moved back with them, but they didnt force the mayor to do itNov 13 06:27
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r_schestowitzTrue, in context, and this is a very poorly written article that really doesn't give much information.Nov 13 06:27
r_schestowitzFrom what I've read before, though, Microsoft aggressively pushed the 'Total Cost of Ownership' argument that Windows was lower than Linux, warping the perspective that the city's taxpayer money was being badly spent, and they did everything they could to undermine the project. So knowing that extra info, the title is more accurate. I don't remember if MS honestly did move into Munich as a direct result of the new Mayor's decision but Nov 13 06:27
r_schestowitzit seems pretty believable.Nov 13 06:27
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r_schestowitzThe mayor in the interview basically summarized that the new right-leaning government needed to kill off a marquee project of the outgoing left government to show that they were changing things, since of course all the initiatives of the outgoing government were garbage by definition.Nov 13 06:28
r_schestowitzHe makes it sound like it was really about getting attention rather than economics, technical reasons or even user preference.Nov 13 06:28
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r_schestowitzI'm sure these were factors, but Reiter (the mayor who killed off Limux) is on record saying something along the lines of "it's different than what I'm used to from home" and I think complaining he couldn't use his private smartphone as a client for the city's mail server or something like that.Nov 13 06:28
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r_schestowitzThey did this to my little towns schools when I was in middle school and now every computer they have, as far as I know, still have Linux on them. It was weird moving to a new city and having to retake a computer class because their whole system was windows based. My home computers will always be Linux based and my future children will be educated on Linux (at home.)Nov 13 06:28
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r_schestowitzIt’s fascinating how people view Microsoft as an innovative tech company. Microsoft is a standards company. They were the first to build a good office suit back in the 80s and have been milking it ever since. The world needs Microsoft like it needs patent trolls.Nov 13 06:28
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r_schestowitzStandards? That would be establishing public specifications for interoperability, ensuring that even their closed source products could interoperate with other OSes and applications.Nov 13 06:28
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r_schestowitzI don't know how one is supposed to read that paragraph; it is ironically twisted out of any semblance of meaning.Nov 13 06:29
r_schestowitzMS broke the web standards and tried to enforce their own, stole WordPerfect's and Lotus's ground-breaking developments, and, yeh, have been milking it ever since.Nov 13 06:29
r_schestowitzThey are and always have been a pile of shite.Nov 13 06:29
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r_schestowitzEmbrace, extend and extinguish. Never forget that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguishNov 13 06:29
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.m.wikipedia.org | Embrace, extend, and extinguish - WikipediaNov 13 06:29
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r_schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZaDuinGf2oNov 13 06:29
r_schestowitzGerman version for convenience.Nov 13 06:29
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r_schestowitzThe only way to get rid of M$ is on EU level. Project for 10-20 years, list and rewrite to open sourse proprietary software used by government units instead or ordering writing software to private entities with closed code (create grant system for individual programmers that contribute the most code/value instead of call for bids) and then switch to linux ...Nov 13 06:29
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r_schestowitzThat and schools. Getting just any local council to switch to Ubuntu would be a massive win.Nov 13 06:29
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r_schestowitzThe problem is that doing this locally would generate additional costs and tensions as you would need to assure interoperability - word-libreoffice, file-sharing, irs software compatibility, often software and hardware tokens etc. Easier is going from top and by changing bid procedure and assumptions (fe. All orders should be FLOSS and have REST API 100% documented but we pay)Nov 13 06:30
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r_schestowitzMaybe so... but the top-down approach means all your faults happen to a full country. The one-at-a-time approach means you can risk very little, and individual organizations can accomodate for their individual needs.Nov 13 06:30
r_schestowitzI've never really understood this 'compatability' bit in the abstract. Where's the thing that goes wrong?Nov 13 06:30
r_schestowitzFonts? Just use a different font.Nov 13 06:30
r_schestowitzThe database? It really should be on a proper server anyway.Nov 13 06:30
r_schestowitzIf the file sharing is Dropbox, GoogleDrive, or based on a school's platform, it's probably fine. If File Sharing is all Sharepoint, then that's going to incur a cost, but I've seen people shift over full companies' data in under a week, so the problem's not insurmountable.Nov 13 06:30
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r_schestowitzIf you need to be GDRP or have some sort of sesret, classified using google won't do. I am talking about changing ways how state orders software - rest would happen much easier ...Nov 13 06:30
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r_schestowitzUnfortunately they care a lot more about auditing free software they currently use than about getting rid of proprietary black boxesNov 13 06:30
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r_schestowitzbUt bIlL gATes iS So NIceeeee NoWNov 13 06:30
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r_schestowitzWindows fucking sucks though. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with this type of shit if Windows was, you know, actually a usable OS.Nov 13 06:30
r_schestowitzToday I wanted to transfer 35gb of files (Sims 4 mods to be exact) from one SSD to another SSD. I was booted into my Windows installation and decided to do the transfer from there. The estimated time was 2 hours and 45 minutes and it was transferring my shit at 2.4mb per second.Nov 13 06:31
r_schestowitz2.4mb per second. On a fucking solid state drive. I know it was a bunch of small files which slows bulk transfers down but come the fuck on.Nov 13 06:31
r_schestowitzSo I shut it down, booted into my Linux partition and reattempted the same exact file transfer.Nov 13 06:31
r_schestowitzI got 346mb per second and it finished in 1 minute.Nov 13 06:31
r_schestowitzI had time to finish the mod folder transfer, copy Sims 4 into my ext4 partition, configure wine and get the game running on Linux in less time than it would have taken just to copy the mod folder on Windows by itself.Nov 13 06:31
r_schestowitzSeriously, fuck Windows 10.Nov 13 06:31
r_schestowitzSure, I could reinstall Windows and maybe get good performance for a few months until it fucks itself up again but I don't have time for that. I shouldn't have to lose all my data, reinstall Windows then spend 2 weeks reinstalling all my programs just to never get it back to the way it was just for it to eventually fuck up again despite antivirus and adblock on everything just so I can reinstall and do all that shit again.Nov 13 06:31
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r_schestowitzI got 346mb per second and it finished in 1 minute.Nov 13 06:31
r_schestowitzssh, you can go even faster (assuming you're using cp right now):Nov 13 06:31
r_schestowitztar cf - . | (cd /dst; tar xvf -)Nov 13 06:31
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r_schestowitzThe only way to make Microsoft and Windows completely irrelevant is to improve WineHQ to the point where everyone can install and run everything on WineHQ just like they do in Windows and everything will run without any issues almost all the time.Nov 13 06:31
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r_schestowitzAs a Linux user, I can't help but feel VERY smug about this. I'll continue on my marry way using a platform that puts me in the driver's seat of my PC and doesn't do any of the following things that a properly designed OS should never do.Nov 13 06:31
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r_schestowitzYou can offer someone a free cup of premium Wine, but you can't make them drink it. And if they still want to drink the liquid shit that is Windows 10 instead, it's their choice. You can also point out that Windows XP and 7 never did any of the above to the computer operator, but they still won't care.Nov 13 06:31
r_schestowitzOnly thing I wish is that people would stop expecting me to look at or fix their Windows computers. I want a T-shirt that says "No, I will not fix your Windows PC.Nov 13 06:31
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r_schestowitzAt first I read it as (Former mayor of Munich explains what Microsoft did in Munich) (in order to undermine GNU/Linux and impose Microsoft Windows on everybody), as if Microsoft had done something good and the mayor wanted to impose Windows, and I was quite confused, but then I realized it’s actually (Former mayor of Munich explains) (what Microsoft did in Munich in order to undermine GNU/Linux and impose Microsoft Windows on Nov 13 06:32
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: I can see why Microsoft felt that they could do a better job providing an IDE shell for interactive languages like… https://t.co/mcChZxFj9jNov 13 20:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: I can see why Microsoft felt that they could do a better job providing an IDE shell for interactive languages like… https://t.co/mcChZxFj9jNov 13 20:10
r_schestowitz"I can see why Microsoft felt that they could do a better job providing an IDE shell for interactive languages like Python (with VS Code). IDLE doesn't seem especially easy to use."Nov 13 20:10
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194674360792932352Nov 13 20:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz OTOH, GM "golden rice" is a good thing that's being held up because of fears over other GMO crops. https://t.co/9TRyYCC0khNov 13 20:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.npr.org | In A Grain Of Golden Rice, A World Of Controversy Over GMO Foods : The Salt : NPRNov 13 20:11
r_schestowitz|"OTOH, GM "golden rice" is a good thing that's being held up because of fears over other GMO crops."Nov 13 20:11
r_schestowitzGuess who funded NPR. I know, I wrote about it.Nov 13 20:11
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Dembe61386013/status/1194659589867876352Nov 13 20:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Dembe61386013: @schestowitz Never.Nov 13 20:12
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/michaelgraaf/status/1194585284534509573Nov 13 20:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@michaelgraaf: #HeartBroken https://t.co/RRsw24vPUQNov 13 20:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Startpage Has Been Delisted, But it Ought to be Blacklisted https://t.co/3d04uIZ3PY #search #privacy #surveillance #system1Nov 13 20:13
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GeoNaumov/status/1194575297213091840Nov 13 20:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GeoNaumov: Yes https://t.co/MQpUiplAspNov 13 20:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Debian reconsiders init-system diversity https://t.co/GkuZkBYQZD #systemd #systemd #choice #gnuNov 13 20:13
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jjaone/status/1194570120032608256Nov 13 20:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jjaone: @schestowitz In #Linux server-side seems we can do w/ #systemd, specifically if in the future it'll support contain… https://t.co/Xk7BUunGnPNov 13 20:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jjaone: @schestowitz In #Linux server-side seems we can do w/ #systemd, specifically if in the future it'll support contain… https://t.co/Xk7BUunGnPNov 13 20:13
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 20:13
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r_schestowitzIn #Linux server-side seems we can do w/ #systemd, specifically if in the future it'll support containerized systems and platforms.Nov 13 20:13
r_schestowitzhttps://lwn.net/Articles/804487Nov 13 20:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lwn.net | Debian reconsiders init-system diversity [LWN.net]Nov 13 20:13
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 20:14
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pceebee23/status/1194546290530455553Nov 13 20:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@pceebee23: @schestowitz Some Presidents grow in stature after they leave office Carter like Truman has become one of those rar… https://t.co/a68ueFUdEjNov 13 20:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@pceebee23: @schestowitz Some Presidents grow in stature after they leave office Carter like Truman has become one of those rar… https://t.co/a68ueFUdEjNov 13 20:15
r_schestowitz"Some Presidents grow in stature after they leave office Carter like Truman has become one of those rare men whose time in office will be reassessed."Nov 13 20:15
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/craignicol/status/1194532291642613760Nov 13 20:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@craignicol: @mdpopescu @Navyguns @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin That's an interesting perspect… https://t.co/ts6NFfEmdtNov 13 20:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@craignicol: @mdpopescu @Navyguns @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin That's an interesting perspect… https://t.co/ts6NFfEmdtNov 13 20:15
r_schestowitz"That's an interesting perspective. Adults have feelings too and they serve an important role in empathy. I can't make you, or Trump, give a shit about anyone else, but I will continue to oppose policies and actions that other, diminish or harm any human."Nov 13 20:16
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/craignicol/status/1194532291642613760Nov 13 20:16
r_schestowitz"I support the Linux Foundation stance to further policies that reduce harm. It's been a long time coming and much needed."Nov 13 20:16
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mdpopescu/status/1194520231848402944Nov 13 20:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mdpopescu: @craignicol @Navyguns @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin I'm an adult. I try not to let them guide me.Nov 13 20:16
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/craignicol/status/1194519648085127168Nov 13 20:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@craignicol: @mdpopescu @Navyguns @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin So you don't?Nov 13 20:16
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mdpopescu/status/1194519019589689344Nov 13 20:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mdpopescu: @Navyguns @craignicol @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin He has feelings :)Nov 13 20:16
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/craignicol/status/1194501025337630720Nov 13 20:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@craignicol: @Navyguns @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @mdpopescu @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin Supporting MAGA is supporting… https://t.co/sv47q6Y26YNov 13 20:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@craignicol: @Navyguns @CaboverPeter @schestowitz @mdpopescu @kenogulabz @philivc @unclebobmartin Supporting MAGA is supporting… https://t.co/sv47q6Y26YNov 13 20:16
r_schestowitz"Supporting MAGA is supporting Trump. Trump is racist and misogynistic."Nov 13 20:16
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SyntaxSeed/status/1194713183845593089Nov 13 21:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SyntaxSeed: Lots of worrisome news coming out of the Linux world these days. 😢 Microsoft is NOT the friend of OSS they are sel… https://t.co/vY5c1RYp1VNov 13 21:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SyntaxSeed: Lots of worrisome news coming out of the Linux world these days. 😢 Microsoft is NOT the friend of OSS they are sel… https://t.co/vY5c1RYp1VNov 13 21:39
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 21:39
r_schestowitzdays. Nov 13 21:39
r_schestowitzMicrosoft is NOT the friend of OSS they are selling themselves as these days. Eyes open folks.Nov 13 21:39
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 21:39
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 21:39
r_schestowitzSyntaxSeed (Sherri W) Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Nov 13 21:39
r_schestowitzLots of worrisome news coming out of the Linux world these days. 😢Nov 13 21:39
r_schestowitzMicrosoft is NOT the friend of OSS they are selling themselves as these days. Eyes open folks.Nov 13 21:39
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 21:39
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bstamour1/status/1194726528480878597Nov 13 21:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bstamour1: @SyntaxSeed Might be time to make the jump to FreeBSD.Nov 13 21:39
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194716668607361026Nov 13 21:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Well, there should be a better way of bringing GMO crops like that to market than let Monsanto be the… https://t.co/a6nuHdWjMbNov 13 21:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Well, there should be a better way of bringing GMO crops like that to market than let Monsanto be the… https://t.co/a6nuHdWjMbNov 13 21:40
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 21:40
r_schestowitzWell, there should be a better way of bringing GMO crops like that to market than let Monsanto be the only ones pushing to make it happen.Nov 13 21:40
r_schestowitzI'm no fan of the "Roundup Ready" crops with the evidence that Roundup exposure can cause cancer, but GMO itself isn't an evil thing per se.Nov 13 21:40
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 21:40
r_schestowitzYou should read what some respected and independent scientists say about this "golden" (not) riceNov 13 21:41
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194716973189386240Nov 13 21:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Monsanto, Bayer, or whoever the Big Ag boogieman is who Greenpeace is trying to stop. You're definitel… https://t.co/1tZ0eqwjblNov 13 21:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Monsanto, Bayer, or whoever the Big Ag boogieman is who Greenpeace is trying to stop. You're definitel… https://t.co/1tZ0eqwjblNov 13 21:41
r_schestowitz"Monsanto, Bayer, or whoever the Big Ag boogieman is who Greenpeace is trying to stop. You're definitely right to focus on the patent angle with modified crops. We also see that with bacteria modified to produce lifesaving medicines (and patented)."Nov 13 21:41
r_schestowitzThis iin't about dealing with hunger/digestion/nutrition but creating a monopoly and stranglehold on the food chain, plates, farmers through patent law. I wrote a LOT about this.Nov 13 21:43
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kaddourkardio/status/1194729677572771840Nov 13 21:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kaddourkardio: @schestowitz **laugh in Algerian accent**Nov 13 21:46
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/georgebaily/status/1194731382125273097Nov 13 21:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@georgebaily: #MicrosoftExperience https://t.co/9cNqEbNDy6Nov 13 21:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: My wife calls linux dot com a "sore to the eye". Neither she nor I even want to click on links there. Lots of awful… https://t.co/fr9CS5V6vsNov 13 21:46
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1194249034791374849Nov 13 22:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: RAND-z, and indians coopy/pasting ETSI #fosspatents https://t.co/Hmswyt6EOsNov 13 22:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: RAND-z, and indians coopy/pasting ETSI #fosspatents https://t.co/Hmswyt6EOsNov 13 22:11
r_schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/11/call-to-readers-lets-talk-about-patent.html?showComment=1573548320183#c531297867276651052Nov 13 22:25
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 22:25
r_schestowitzI beg to disagree with Sing-A-Pore. I have always thought that the job of a representative is to obtain the largest protection possible for his client, and that is what they are trained for when sitting the EQE. If depending on the state of the art, only limited protection is available, then why not. But certainly not in general. Nov 13 22:25
r_schestowitzAn examiner never knows whether the application he is deciding upon will be commercially interesting or not. Simply banking on the absence of an opposition or litigation is not what an examiner should have in mind. This is for me not a good or wise examiner, but an examiner wanting to get its points as quickly as possible. Nov 13 22:25
r_schestowitzHow can the examiner decide from his desk that the patent he is granting will not inconvenience anyone? This seems quite preposterous to me, not to say arrogant. Nov 13 22:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Call to readers: let's talk about patent quality - The IPKatNov 13 22:25
r_schestowitzI would go as far as to claim that the representative and the examiner are dragging money out of the client’s pockets by granting a patent which has hardly any value. This is not the job of an examiner or of a representative. Nov 13 22:26
r_schestowitzI maintain that an examiner having never refused an application is not a good examiner. It is clear that writing a refusal which withstands scrutiny of a board of appeal is a task which needs more time than to decide a grant for reasons which are never made public. Hence my comment on the quick points. Nov 13 22:26
r_schestowitzAnd when you know for a fact that it is common practice in high producing directorates that what the primary examiner decides is endorsed by the two other members, it confirms that simply having the production target in mind is not rendering a service to the public at large. Nov 13 22:26
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 22:26
r_schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/11/can-uk-become-and-stay-member-of-upc.html?showComment=1573635492202#c9068798411809047688Nov 13 22:35
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 22:35
r_schestowitzDear Attentive Observer,Nov 13 22:35
r_schestowitzThx for your clear overview as to the constitutional complaint. I fully agree that they are not at all esoteric. Anyone qualifying them as such does not do justice to the merits of the questions (irrespetive of their answers). Maybe some have political rather than legal objections against it and have no better arguments than such type of qualification? Nov 13 22:35
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 22:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Can the UK become and stay a member of the UPC? - The IPKatNov 13 22:35
r_schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/11/can-uk-become-and-stay-member-of-upc.html?showComment=1573635722126#c7446217971010415458Nov 13 22:35
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 22:35
r_schestowitzDear Attentive Observer,Nov 13 22:35
r_schestowitzThanks for your clear contribution. Nov 13 22:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Can the UK become and stay a member of the UPC? - The IPKatNov 13 22:35
r_schestowitzI am very surprised that/if the EU would allow the UK to cherry-pick the EU-, EU-based and EU-instruments from the EU package if they leave the EU. The UPC is clearly an instrument build on and using EU law, and earlier Luxembourg decisions have clearly provided that non-EU states are not allowed to participate in such instruments. Political pressure and econimical wish may be high, but the solution is simple if the UK wants to maintain Nov 13 22:35
r_schestowitzEU-benefits: do not leave the EU!Nov 13 22:35
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 22:35
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LizMcIntyre/status/1194739928485236736Nov 13 22:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LizMcIntyre: Sometimes you've got to laugh to keep from crying. https://t.co/qwkIRzoYq9 https://t.co/ddIwcJNAGlNov 13 22:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Startpage Has Been Delisted, But it Ought to be Blacklisted | TechrightsNov 13 22:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LizMcIntyre: Sometimes you've got to laugh to keep from crying. https://t.co/qwkIRzoYq9 https://t.co/ddIwcJNAGlNov 13 22:51
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194739945702707200Nov 13 22:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz That's a very good point. There are lots of ways to get vitamin A that aren't patented.Nov 13 22:52
r_schestowitzfor now... the lawyers are working on it...Nov 13 22:52
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/j082298/status/1194743908024094724Nov 13 22:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: @schestowitz Would you ever agree to get the RFID? I would not ever. Not only for spiritual reasons but also becaus… https://t.co/OtLLU9HdojNov 13 22:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: @schestowitz Would you ever agree to get the RFID? I would not ever. Not only for spiritual reasons but also becaus… https://t.co/OtLLU9HdojNov 13 22:53
r_schestowitz"Nov 13 22:53
r_schestowitzWould you ever agree to get the RFID? I would not ever. Not only for spiritual reasons but also because they will be a problem for the person's health, maybe not initially but long term for sure.Nov 13 22:53
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r_schestowitz"Nov 13 22:53
r_schestowitzIt's done on pets already; even mandatory here. Because there's no notion of a non-human animal offering consent.Nov 13 22:54
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194747515473522688Nov 13 22:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz That's no way to make friends & influence people.Nov 13 22:55
r_schestowitzMaybe it pains to hear that because they paid you salariesNov 13 22:55
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/j082298/status/1194747865786134533Nov 13 22:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: @schestowitz Opium is also the reason there is bad blood between other Asian countries and the west.Nov 13 22:56
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/j082298/status/1194751139826274305Nov 13 23:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: @schestowitz Dogs are dying younger here. I just lost two and was actually trying to find one that is not chipped.… https://t.co/hsR5L0usJINov 13 23:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: @schestowitz Dogs are dying younger here. I just lost two and was actually trying to find one that is not chipped.… https://t.co/hsR5L0usJINov 13 23:20
schestowitz"Dogs are dying younger here. I just lost two and was actually trying to find one that is not chipped. I am very angry at what is happening to the animals. "Nov 13 23:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/j082298/status/1194751793131085824Nov 13 23:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: @schestowitz https://t.co/IEVC1NMBZiNov 13 23:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.govtech.com | Maryland Lawmaker Takes Aim at Mandatory MicrochippingNov 13 23:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194753747097767937Nov 13 23:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz No, I just said that because you clearly got blocked for that reply.Nov 13 23:21
schestowitzNo, he blocked me ages ago, for faaaaar less... super-sensitive back thenNov 13 23:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194754084768608256Nov 13 23:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz How can lawyers stop people from using things that already exist? It is possible, but hard when you're… https://t.co/kxxa5ZlN4vNov 13 23:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz How can lawyers stop people from using things that already exist? It is possible, but hard when you're… https://t.co/kxxa5ZlN4vNov 13 23:22
schestowitz"Nov 13 23:22
schestowitzHow can lawyers stop people from using things that already exist? It is possible, but hard when you're talking about vitamins that can't be demonized as drugs.Nov 13 23:22
schestowitzThere's a prescription form of GHB for people with narcolepsy that's made by patented methods and costs ~$5k/month.Nov 13 23:22
schestowitz"Nov 13 23:22
schestowitzYou'd be shocked at the stuff that gets patents these days, even illegallyNov 13 23:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194754288204959745Nov 13 23:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz I dated someone with narcolepsy years ago just after it was made illegal because it was being put in p… https://t.co/Ud6GT1PO8DNov 13 23:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz I dated someone with narcolepsy years ago just after it was made illegal because it was being put in p… https://t.co/Ud6GT1PO8DNov 13 23:23
schestowitz"I dated someone with narcolepsy years ago just after it was made illegal because it was being put in people's drinks as a date rape drug. So it went from being sold in health food stores as a nutritional supplement (that your body makes naturally) to illegal to very expensive Rx."Nov 13 23:23
schestowitzwar on drugs is a farceNov 13 23:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194754509148344320Nov 13 23:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz So I'm not saying it's not possible, but it seems like the better solution for vitamin A deficiency wo… https://t.co/4x6d6h7cxSNov 13 23:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz So I'm not saying it's not possible, but it seems like the better solution for vitamin A deficiency wo… https://t.co/4x6d6h7cxSNov 13 23:24
schestowitz"Nov 13 23:24
schestowitzJake Hamby Retweeted Jake HambyNov 13 23:24
schestowitzSo I'm not saying it's not possible, but it seems like the better solution for vitamin A deficiency would be to introduce more leafy vegetables, especially orange and green ones.Nov 13 23:24
schestowitzOn the Xyrem/GHB patent stuff:Nov 13 23:24
schestowitz"Nov 13 23:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194755037550919680Nov 13 23:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Look at all the patents that were granted for specific formulations of microbes to make a specific var… https://t.co/mpiAYP7qk2Nov 13 23:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Look at all the patents that were granted for specific formulations of microbes to make a specific var… https://t.co/mpiAYP7qk2Nov 13 23:24
schestowitz"Look at all the patents that were granted for specific formulations of microbes to make a specific variation of a drug that could be made by generic competitors, but because of the War on Drugs and IP laws, they'd have to dodge patents & exclusivity deals."Nov 13 23:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1194758050302660611Nov 13 23:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Indeed.Nov 13 23:25
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/11/ferrero-succeeds-in-enforcing-its.html?showComment=1573665269833#c4549106111376272675Nov 13 23:40
schestowitz"Hmm. Does this mean that Ferrero get effectively infinite duration protection of their design? I'd be interested to hear where trade mark protection rolls off, and design protection comes in. The design itself is well past its 25 year max duration (if they ever took it out). "Nov 13 23:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Ferrero succeeds in enforcing its rights in the Tic Tac container before Italian court - The IPKatNov 13 23:40

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