●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Thursday, January 14, 2021 ●● ● Jan 14 [00:28] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-238-28.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [00:28] *rianne (~rianne@host81-152-238-28.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [00:45] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [00:45] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) ● Jan 14 [01:15] *rianne (~rianne@host81-152-238-28.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [01:16] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-238-28.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 14 [07:01] schestowitz__ x https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/08/bill-gates-climate-change-could-be-worse-than-covid-19.html [07:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cnbc.com | Bill Gates: Climate change could be worse than Covid-19 [07:01] schestowitz__ # bill sez [07:15] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [07:15] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [07:15] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by MinceR at Thu Jan 28 18:22:54 2016 [07:16] -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel [07:16] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz_log_ [07:16] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:16] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [07:16] *schestowitz_log has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [07:16] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [07:16] *acer-box__ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [07:16] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to acer-box__ [07:16] *asusbox2 (~rianne@host81-152-238-28.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [07:16] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [07:16] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [07:16] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz [07:16] *schestowitz__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [07:16] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [07:16] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@host81-152-238-28.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [07:28] *libertybox (~schestowi@host81-152-238-28.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [07:28] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-152-238-28.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [07:28] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-238-28.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [07:42] schestowitz x https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/534043-usa-powerlifting-sued-by-transgender-powerlifter-over-competition [07:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehill.com | USA Powerlifting sued by transgender powerlifter over competition ban | TheHill ● Jan 14 [08:35] *Disconnected (Network is unreachable). [08:52] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [08:52] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [08:52] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by MinceR at Thu Jan 28 18:22:54 2016 [08:52] -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel [08:52] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz_log [08:52] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [08:52] *acer-box__ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [08:52] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to acer-box__ [08:52] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [08:52] *libertybox (~schestowi@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [08:53] *asusbox2 (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [08:53] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [08:53] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz [08:53] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [08:56] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [08:56] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [08:56] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by MinceR at Thu Jan 28 18:22:54 2016 [08:57] -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel [08:57] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz_log ● Jan 14 [10:20] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 14 [11:22] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:22] *asusbox2 (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 14 [21:07] *rianne_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:08] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [21:40] schestowitz https://twitter.com/DMCANews/status/1349777983444160512 [21:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DMCANews: The defunct OSI in my opinion was never relevant... Now other projects are adopting #sspl... elastic for 1 https://t.co/GdHoewdksn [21:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DMCANews: The defunct OSI in my opinion was never relevant... Now other projects are adopting #sspl... elastic for 1 https://t.co/GdHoewdksn [21:40] schestowitz " [21:40] schestowitz The defunct OSI in my opinion was never relevant... Now other projects are adopting #sspl... elastic for 1 [21:40] schestowitz #techrights #opensource #linux [21:40] schestowitz https://elastic.co/blog/licensing-change [21:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.elastic.co | Doubling down on open, Part II | Elastic Blog [21:40] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/12/25/why [21:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | 2020 is the Year When the Open Source Initiative Became (More Officially) Defunct | Techrights [21:41] schestowitz " [21:42] schestowitz https://twitter.com/BapCris/status/1349357239975481352 [21:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BapCris: @nikomagafi @MacOSLionX @jmatuk @japonton Lo del historial creo ningn buscador evita se guarde en el historial por https://t.co/HKTXVZS9KD [21:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BapCris: @nikomagafi @MacOSLionX @jmatuk @japonton Lo del historial creo ningn buscador evita se guarde en el historial por https://t.co/HKTXVZS9KD [21:42] schestowitz "Lo del historial creo ningn buscador evita se guarde en el historial por ser funcin del browser, pero encontr esta pgina con temas ms delicados que me hacen dudar de seguir usando DDG" [21:44] schestowitz https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1349721929176002560 [21:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: "All of this illegal motorized use is unaccounted for in agency analysis documents, which leads to agency analyses https://t.co/gluTJiT9ry [21:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: "All of this illegal motorized use is unaccounted for in agency analysis documents, which leads to agency analyses https://t.co/gluTJiT9ry [21:44] schestowitz ""All of this illegal motorized use is unaccounted for in agency analysis documents, which leads to agency analyses that drastically underestimate the true impact of motorized use on threatened grizzly bears in these National Forests"" [21:44] schestowitz https://twitter.com/MoreSocialism/status/1349699091853422592 [21:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MoreSocialism: The criminal Rick Snyder has finally been charged with 100,000 counts of aggravated battery. On no wait, it's actua https://t.co/hGEmbVuvnv [21:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MoreSocialism: The criminal Rick Snyder has finally been charged with 100,000 counts of aggravated battery. On no wait, it's actua https://t.co/hGEmbVuvnv [21:44] schestowitz https://twitter.com/MoreSocialism/status/1349698661291339776 [21:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MoreSocialism: @schestowitz It should be 100,000 counts of aggravated battery. [21:45] schestowitz https://twitter.com/mrpshropshire/status/1349695607703789570 [21:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mrpshropshire: You're kinda making her point. https://t.co/09HoghYbvi [21:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #CommonDreams #CoriBush Booed by House #GOP for Denouncing #WhiteSupremacy https://t.co/2m7rBcP3nQ [21:46] schestowitz https://twitter.com/PamMaccabee/status/1349688162403168258 [21:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PamMaccabee: Atrocious. https://t.co/7g8EwQQ4DL [21:46] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Gonzalo_VC23/status/1349460397888311300 [21:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Gonzalo_VC23: @schestowitz I think it is OK to criticize Canonical's stupid b_nosing of microShaft. But also the domination of th https://t.co/vJDPhGuARb [21:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Gonzalo_VC23: @schestowitz I think it is OK to criticize Canonical's stupid b_nosing of microShaft. But also the domination of th https://t.co/vJDPhGuARb [21:46] schestowitz "I think it is OK to criticize Canonical's stupid b_nosing of microShaft. But also the domination of the whole GNU/Linux ecosystem by RH cancers: systemD, pulseaud!0 and more. One day you won't be able to make a distro without all their "open source traps"." [21:47] schestowitz https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1349440249827618817 [21:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz ARM should be. [21:47] schestowitz https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1349337309318176771 [21:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Zensur all over [21:47] schestowitz https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1349268746351890432 [21:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: #china is a pathetic bully https://t.co/EnZFEahuC6 [21:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #DNAIndia #china #tibet Rattled by protests in Tibet, China performs military air drill over Lhasa https://t.co/YRc97Zbhlb [21:48] schestowitz https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1349268614529036290 [21:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: more details here: https://t.co/Mo2LFO7zWv https://t.co/AGPTVCITj8 [21:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techdirt.com | Twitter Bans Sci-Hub's Account Because Of 'Counterfeit Goods' Policy, As Indian Copyright Case Heats Up | Techdirt [21:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: [Old] #TheWire #OpenAccess Sci-Hub Case: The Court Should Protect Science From Greedy Academic Publishers https://t.co/zoBTIlaHaI [21:48] schestowitz https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1349256266410053632 [21:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz They will just give the traces to the FBI for "bad actors" #boycottmozilla #boycottfirefox [21:48] schestowitz https://twitter.com/PamMaccabee/status/1349108472072302593 [21:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PamMaccabee: Agree. https://t.co/UrwhqZlCUB [21:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #TheNation Rev. Raphael Warnocks Bend-the-Arc Faith Is Precisely What the Senate Needs https://t.co/id5QJZYczf [21:49] schestowitz https://twitter.com/PamMaccabee/status/1349103498001068037 [21:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PamMaccabee: FACE THE TRUTH, America. https://t.co/8vWQQFfXvW [21:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #Counterpunch #Venezuela Venezuela: the United States is Experiencing What It Has Generated in Other Cou https://t.co/WkdSwJxDNm [21:49] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [21:49] schestowitz https://twitter.com/eric_heffernan/status/1349100524524634113 [21:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@eric_heffernan: @schestowitz Someone so smart in certain areas falling for fake news like this? I don't think you're here in the St https://t.co/e8I1zk3Nd2 [21:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@eric_heffernan: @schestowitz Someone so smart in certain areas falling for fake news like this? I don't think you're here in the St https://t.co/e8I1zk3Nd2 [21:49] schestowitz " [21:49] schestowitz Someone so smart in certain areas falling for fake news like this? [21:49] schestowitz I don't think you're here in the States Doc, but I'd a guessed you smart enough to smell BS this strong from across the pond. [21:49] schestowitz " [21:49] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [21:49] schestowitz Notifications [21:49] schestowitz All [21:49] schestowitz Mentions [21:49] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [21:50] *schestowitz (~schestowi@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [21:50] -NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) [21:50] *schestowitz has quit (Changing host) [21:50] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [21:50] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz [21:50] schestowitz https://twitter.com/snackfully/status/1349060885587714049 [21:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@snackfully: @schestowitz Far right violence, far left violence, big tech censorship. Its all wrong. [21:50] schestowitz https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1349051231910588418 [21:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: Yall can say what you want about @schestowitz, but no one else has been calling out Cond Nast like him as of late https://t.co/APOyB4YLnf [21:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: Yall can say what you want about @schestowitz, but no one else has been calling out Cond Nast like him as of late https://t.co/APOyB4YLnf [21:50] schestowitz " [21:50] schestowitz Yall can say what you want about @schestowitz [21:50] schestowitz , but no one else has been calling out Cond Nast like him as of late [21:50] schestowitz Man shrugging [21:50] schestowitz " [21:52] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jonstahl/status/1349011205738926082 [21:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jonstahl: @__gotcha @schestowitz @zoobab @davisagli Happy to chat offline. [21:52] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1348995387382779905 [21:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: @schestowitz Don't forget Osmayev and Okhumeva - Chechen Islamists 'ambushed' in Ukraine. [21:52] schestowitz https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1348995267836731394 [21:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Let's hope not. We cannot even get a seriously made impact assessment, because the proponents want to https://t.co/80mEG1qRL4 [21:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Let's hope not. We cannot even get a seriously made impact assessment, because the proponents want to https://t.co/80mEG1qRL4 [21:52] schestowitz "Let's hope not. We cannot even get a seriously made impact assessment, because the proponents want to hide the negative points for the economy." [21:53] schestowitz https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1348964004136366080 [21:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: absurd https://t.co/cRgRATA2QH [21:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #AlJazeera #Censorship #Pakistan court sentences three to death for blasphemy https://t.co/Ji6uh03TmO [21:53] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jrobertson/status/1348961107155718144 [21:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrobertson: Suddenly the social media block mentality by #bigtech isn't so funny when online payment firms yield their unelect https://t.co/8vmL0ntcoq [21:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrobertson: Suddenly the social media block mentality by #bigtech isn't so funny when online payment firms yield their unelect https://t.co/8vmL0ntcoq [21:53] schestowitz "Suddenly the social media block mentality by #bigtech isn't so funny when online payment firms yield their unelected powers too. #privateGovernment #technocracy" [21:53] schestowitz https://twitter.com/KudeRaju/status/1348950547840323590 [21:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KudeRaju: @schestowitz they challenged the army and police...a guaranteed way to fail in Indo...and they didn't follow any co https://t.co/fUOr89ixyh [21:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KudeRaju: @schestowitz they challenged the army and police...a guaranteed way to fail in Indo...and they didn't follow any co https://t.co/fUOr89ixyh [21:53] schestowitz "they challenged the army and police...a guaranteed way to fail in Indo...and they didn't follow any covid protocols. It was inevitable they were going to be outlawed." [21:54] schestowitz https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1348928997963550720 [21:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz @fpodoo [21:54] schestowitz https://twitter.com/__gotcha/status/1348927335215624192 [21:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@__gotcha: @schestowitz @zoobab @jonstahl @davisagli Id been interested to hear your take on this. [21:54] schestowitz https://twitter.com/BradWilcox17/status/1348904597205774337 [21:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BradWilcox17: @schestowitz The current events in Washignton, DC and the upcoming inauguration. Are we going to experience "Waterg https://t.co/7qnsnYNR9G [21:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BradWilcox17: @schestowitz The current events in Washignton, DC and the upcoming inauguration. Are we going to experience "Waterg https://t.co/7qnsnYNR9G [21:54] schestowitz "The current events in Washignton, DC and the upcoming inauguration. Are we going to experience "Watergate II" in the near future?" ● Jan 14 [22:04] schestowitz https://placeholderapi.wordpress.com/2020/10/15/oh-come-on-itsfoss-dont-become-microsoft-clowns-we-alread/#comment-17630 [22:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-placeholderapi.wordpress.com | Oh, come on, #itsfoss dont become #microsoft clowns. We alread | Dr. Roy Schestowitz () [22:04] schestowitz " [22:04] schestowitz Thanks for calling out the clusterfuck of meta-clowns. While Windows is full of FOSS, all M$ products are basic technology for virus developers and three-letter agencies. [22:04] schestowitz https://gfkdsgn.wordpress.com/2019/07/14/ms-windows/2/ [22:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gfkdsgn.wordpress.com | MS Windows Page 2 gfkDSGN [22:04] schestowitz Looks like itsFoss lost itsIndependence to fool around with IT propaganda. [22:04] schestowitz " [22:05] schestowitz https://placeholderapi.wordpress.com/2020/11/17/why-on-earth-does-itsfoss-promote-microsoft-for-coding-in-c-know/#comment-17629 [22:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-placeholderapi.wordpress.com | Why on Earth does #ItsFOSS promote #Microsoft for coding in C, know | Dr. Roy Schestowitz () [22:05] schestowitz " [22:05] schestowitz GOOD QUESTION! [22:05] schestowitz A few times i was confused about their reports, reviews and perspectives. [22:05] schestowitz The code of M$ Visual Studio might be open-source, but since itsfoss missed to mention the calling home functions its more than just sad for Apache NetBeans and other IDEs. [22:05] schestowitz In this short list of seven apps they mentioned non-FOSS tools instead of blender, got confused with numbers, and Ankush Das started with a statement that he uses IP-software Canva to create the website instead of Inkscape. [22:05] schestowitz https://itsfoss.com/best-linux-graphic-design-software/ [22:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-itsfoss.com | 7 Best Linux Tools For Digital Artists in 2020 [22:05] schestowitz " [22:05] schestowitz You conflate MSVS with "Code", and Code as given by Microsoft is a binary blob without source code [22:19] schestowitz >>> Hello, Roy, [22:19] schestowitz >>> [22:19] schestowitz >>> (what's with the "Ron" thing?!?) [22:19] schestowitz >> Ron? I'm not quite following... [22:19] schestowitz >> Maybe some mistake somewhere? Where does it say Ron? [22:19] schestowitz > I've seen figosdev refer to you that way, I think. At least I thought [22:19] schestowitz > that was in reference to you. I think I've also seen Ron appear in IRC [22:19] schestowitz > logs, even ones quoted in posts. Did I get it wrong? Is that someone [22:19] schestowitz > else that also hangs in TR channels? I suppose it could be. [22:19] schestowitz It's very possible it referred to someone else, though I struggle to think who. I know Ron Hovsepian (Novell), but in the FS community? Can't think of one... [22:25] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19869607#b40fdc30388c013994b937a03a2ee993 [22:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Is Linux POSIX-Compliant? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146461 [22:25] schestowitz "Not always!" [22:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Is Linux POSIX-Compliant? | Tux Machines [22:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [22:32] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [22:38] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:39] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:46] schestowitz https://pod.libreplanetbr.org/p/1389596 [22:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pod.libreplanetbr.org | .oO new blog post: Happier GNU Year! https://www.fsfla.org/blogs/lx... [22:46] schestowitz " [22:46] schestowitz Alex Oliva, submits stories to Techrights [22:46] schestowitz For the sake of pedantic correctness, we have to make it singular. The only story I submitted to Roy was the leadership blog post. Not that I didnt want to, but I have committed myself to not doing so for a while, and I work hard to keep my commitments. [22:46] schestowitz I support and thank Techrights; I think it does a great job of covering issues that other media ignores or even supresses. I think the editor and guest contributors like you are very valuable members of the Free Software movement, and I appreciate your insights, even though we dont always agree. [22:46] schestowitz As for not knowing why youre upset with me, call me dumb, but I really cant figure out what it is or was that has got you upset this time. I dont know that weve had any strong disagreement recently, so I really am at a loss. Though I can imagine several potential reasons, I dont which one or ones your upset is about. Im not very good at taking hints; maybe let me know explicitly, in private if you prefer. I cant [22:46] schestowitz promise Ill be able to do anything about it, since I dont even know what it is yet, but I can promise I wont say any more that I dont know what it was this time. [22:46] schestowitz " [22:46] schestowitz "I wouldnt be surprised if you were forced to resign because of this. BUT PLEASE DONT. We need more transparent, honest, real free software advocates in that black hole that has become the FSF."