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schestowitz-TR2https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/yuhong2/status/1625296946691981312#mFeb 14 02:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.lacontrevoie.fr | Yuhong Bao (@yuhong2): "https://wiki.debian.org/PrivacyIssues There used to be a "lets remove google from foss" thread where I had to mention techrights." | La Contre-Voie - nitterFeb 14 02:13
schestowitz-TR2https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/yuhong2/status/1625298399934435333#mFeb 14 02:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.lacontrevoie.fr | Yuhong Bao (@yuhong2): "Part of the reason I paid attention to @MarginaliaNu is the hardware issues it shows." | La Contre-Voie - nitterFeb 14 02:14
schestowitz-TR2"Joensuu's employment services chief says she thinks that employers still have unnecessary prejudices against hiring immigrants." ☞ https://yle.fi/a/74-20017683Feb 14 02:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yle.fi | Foreigners' Finnish skills considered a bigger obstacle than they really are, city official says | News | Yle UutisetFeb 14 02:17
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schestowitz[TR2]k00k:Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]Re: Quotations from Chairman MaoFeb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> The richest source if power to wage war lies in the masses of the Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> people. The imperialists are bullying us in such a way that we will have Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> to deal with them seriously.Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> Considering the revolutionary war as a whole, the operations of the Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> peoples Guerillas and those of the main forces of the Kuomintang, Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> compliment each other like a mans right arm and left arm.Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> Unquestionable victory in or defeat in War is determined mainly by the Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> masses, of Political, Economical and Natural conditions on all sides.Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> The Object of War is Specifically to preserve oneself and destroy the enemy.Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> So in hindsight, why are we supposedly helping U.S & European Union Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> imperialism?Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> Have you read the quotes from Mr Shwab of the WEF? "Pedophilia is Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> Nature's Gift to Children!" according to him. Yet surely if Mr Shwab Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> lived in China where 70 Billion ARM devices where sold, he would already Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> be hanging for his pediatric and dim view by the neck on public display!Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> Feb 14 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]> Best wishesFeb 14 03:48
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schestowitz-pibroke glass bowl in kitchen, seconde incident in two monrings, but this damage is not expensive, Feb 14 05:00
schestowitz-piit mostly wastes timrFeb 14 05:00
schestowitz-pi*timeFeb 14 05:00
schestowitz-pihad lots to paste here yesterday (links) and some stuff to say, but worried scrollback would beFeb 14 05:12
schestowitz-piexceededFeb 14 05:12
schestowitz-pianyway, that was not too importantFeb 14 05:12
schestowitz-pii have lots of time to watch the news more widely than before and go beyond fossFeb 14 05:12
schestowitz-pii tried the version 7 of the script and I got the "~" issue againFeb 14 05:12
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schestowitz-pisaw lots of "good" news so far since 11pm riseFeb 14 05:15
schestowitz-piwhen i say "good" these days it often means something bad for epople or companies that I strongly dislikeFeb 14 05:15
schestowitz-piat 10am today I want to observe ONS numberFeb 14 05:15
schestowitz-piI had some ;''throwaway' datasheets on my old drive before it crashedFeb 14 05:15
schestowitz-piit might thus be a little tricky to quickly generate the same kind of analysisFeb 14 05:15
schestowitz-pibut i don't mindFeb 14 05:15
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schestowitz-piif I minded those lost files, I'd back them up more oftenFeb 14 05:15
schestowitz-pia "bomb" (shell) may soon drop on epoFeb 14 05:15
schestowitz-pimajor scandalFeb 14 05:15
schestowitz-piworking on graphicsFeb 14 05:15
schestowitz-pibtw, your february and ours feels almost like spring, can't complain..Feb 14 05:15
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schestowitz-pinear the top the feeds are more sparsely populatedFeb 14 06:33
schestowitz-pibut pgup/down helpsFeb 14 06:33
schestowitz-pione good thing about being unhinged, unlocked, off the rails of a guiFeb 14 08:06
schestowitz-piand doing your own code is that it is easily extensibleFeb 14 08:06
schestowitz-pino need to lobbyp "upstream"Feb 14 08:06
schestowitz-pibut now, having been deatched from quiterss, i already think how to use heuristics Feb 14 08:06
schestowitz-pilimited to gui (like filtering by words) to script things and cluster related topicsFeb 14 08:06
schestowitz-pialgorithmicallyFeb 14 08:06
schestowitz-piwe already manage toi post far more links per dayFeb 14 08:06
schestowitz-pi(btw, just got back, catching up a bit)Feb 14 08:06
techrights[sec]In the last 15 years lobbying upstream, even when providing sampe code, isFeb 14 08:06
techrights[sec]a waste of time.Feb 14 08:06
techrights[sec]I suppose something with a GUI could be built out aspects of the feed readerFeb 14 08:06
techrights[sec]script, but it's not a high return on effort until there are more reasons toFeb 14 08:06
techrights[sec]learn PyQt and such.Feb 14 08:06
schestowitz-pii'm quite good at guis and used many frameworksFeb 14 08:09
schestowitz-pibut would rather not rush to gui-fy things as there is a maintenance overheadFeb 14 08:09
schestowitz-piwhen new versions come outFeb 14 08:09
schestowitz-pinot good roiFeb 14 08:09
schestowitz-pimy matlab/octave gui stuff had me ranked #1 in the world around 2004 or 2005Feb 14 08:09
schestowitz-pigui fetishes are a 90s thingFeb 14 08:09
schestowitz-pii think due to many people m,ovined from doses to various windowing thingsFeb 14 08:09
schestowitz-piand it was "all the rage"Feb 14 08:09
techrights[sec]the only area a GUI /might/ help is being able to edit the OPML entry insideFeb 14 08:12
techrights[sec]the interface.  Because the UI is currently a web page, that is to possible at  Feb 14 08:12
techrights[sec]the moment. Feb 14 08:12
schestowitz-piit's easy enough for me with nano and kateFeb 14 08:13
schestowitz-pithe latter is a GUIFeb 14 08:13
schestowitz-pibut sure, it does not do editing per seFeb 14 08:13
schestowitz-pinot in the beyond-nesting levelFeb 14 08:13
schestowitz-pithere are xml and opml general-purpose editorsFeb 14 08:13
schestowitz-pino need to make antoher one ;-)Feb 14 08:13
techrights[sec]Exactly.Feb 14 08:21
schestowitz-piwow, this toolset is really awesome, wish we had done this years agoFeb 14 08:22
schestowitz-pibut did not until the crashFeb 14 08:22
schestowitz-pii already knew I was not efficient because the workflow felt wrongFeb 14 08:22
schestowitz-pilots of clicking and copying, where the actions were repetitiveFeb 14 08:22
schestowitz-piall i really needed was 1) overview, 2) no text, 3) consistent formatFeb 14 08:24
schestowitz-pioverview as in, let's see what's new atmFeb 14 08:24
schestowitz-pibtw, phoronix can barely produce even one headline worth clicking in per day nowFeb 14 08:24
schestowitz-pia lot is just some kernel patches that don't matter muchFeb 14 08:24
schestowitz-pidue to over-emphasising quotasFeb 14 08:24
techrights[sec]It's all about finding which parts of the workflow cann be offloaded ontoFeb 14 08:26
techrights[sec]scripts and about tuning the workflow to facilitate that while still gettingFeb 14 08:26
techrights[sec]revelvant tasks done.Feb 14 08:26
techrights[sec]Too much clicking is always a bad sign even if some people enjoy it and  Feb 14 08:26
techrights[sec]find it addictive^Wengaging.Feb 14 08:26
techrights[sec]Body text could be added as per the automated feeds but I think that wouldFeb 14 08:26
techrights[sec]add very little to no value.  I've only checked two or three Phoronix articlesFeb 14 08:26
techrights[sec]in recent months and they were really more like blurbs than posts or articles.Feb 14 08:26
techrights[sec]Given Michael's great work in the past, I feel bad for the situation he is inFeb 14 08:26
schestowitz-pihe still does benchmarks, but a lot of the rest is to generate "clicks" and get people toFeb 14 08:28
schestowitz-pisee the ads, which are most of each pageFeb 14 08:28
schestowitz-pii meant above to seay "no images", not  "no text"Feb 14 08:28
schestowitz-pivery seldom do images become really essential to what I am readingFeb 14 08:28
schestowitz-piesp. in technical domainsFeb 14 08:28
schestowitz-pilike some photo of a politicianFeb 14 08:28
schestowitz-piadds nothingFeb 14 08:28
schestowitz-piregarding outlines, at the moment I offload the html using my script, so use the two Feb 14 08:28
schestowitz-pitools in parallelFeb 14 08:28
schestowitz-pii am dump mine into /tmp in 2 minsFeb 14 08:28
schestowitz-pitwo files just added to /tmpFeb 14 08:32
schestowitz-piexmplifying the dirty script/hackFeb 14 08:32
schestowitz-piand its output that I then useFeb 14 08:32
schestowitz-pisome feeds, like france24, are neat because they're providing just enough text, not badly Feb 14 08:32
schestowitz-pitranculated, and there no ?tracking-junk trailing the url (i manually remove those)Feb 14 08:32
schestowitz-piso I can read, categorise, post to irc and my backup at the site schestowitz.com while it gets addedFeb 14 08:32
schestowitz-pito Daily LlinksFeb 14 08:32
schestowitz-pi*truncated, not sure why I typed that strange wordFeb 14 08:33
schestowitz-pimuscle memory I guessFeb 14 08:33
techrights[sec]Is body text needed?  I figure it would be probably be hidden by a click andFeb 14 08:33
techrights[sec]if a click is needed it might as well bring up the full web page in the browserFeb 14 08:33
schestowitz-piregarding body text, is there a "hidden" property for blockquote?Feb 14 08:35
schestowitz-pior some other approach?Feb 14 08:35
schestowitz-piso that it appears in the html file but not in the browserFeb 14 08:35
schestowitz-pithe context is very unpredictale, varies from site to siteFeb 14 08:35
schestowitz-piout of curiousity, and i rarely do such stuff, i checked how many requests per week for the Daily Links fish thiFeb 14 08:45
schestowitz-pingie (over html/SOME RSS clients but not all, def. not gemini), it says 35k-40kFeb 14 08:45
schestowitz-pii.e. 5k+ a dayFeb 14 08:45
schestowitz-pichecking image requests helps count out bots, spiders, and passive readers over the full text rssFeb 14 08:45
schestowitz-pifeed (we give everything in rss, as some people demand to read it this way and it is more Feb 14 08:45
schestowitz-piconvenient if you can afford the b/w)Feb 14 08:45
schestowitz-piapachelog says every 5 mins about 200 reqs for the TR RSS feedFeb 14 08:45
schestowitz-piso if you assume people poll once a day that can be a lotFeb 14 08:45
schestowitz-pii think that, all in all, Daily Links are actually the most useful contribution of the siteFeb 14 08:46
schestowitz-pior so I was toldFeb 14 08:46
schestowitz-pii know several foss sites that tried to copy it but gave up as they cannot do it as wellFeb 14 08:46
techrights[sec]I'm not sure how many feed readers are broken thoughFeb 14 08:46
schestowitz-piyeah, these metrics are not reliable and should not matter muchFeb 14 08:49
schestowitz-piback in 2004ish I was getting obsessed with site trafficFeb 14 08:49
schestowitz-pito the point where I spent too much time worrying about itFeb 14 08:49
schestowitz-pi5 mins ago it said 100+ requests for the linux-china webm files were made in <5 minsFeb 14 08:49
schestowitz-pithose are not likely to be botsFeb 14 08:49
schestowitz-pii was surprised to see 50k reqs for videos per weekFeb 14 08:49
schestowitz-piif you go to google.comFeb 14 08:49
schestowitz-pipress videoFeb 14 08:49
schestowitz-pisearch for linux stuffFeb 14 08:49
schestowitz-pitechrights is listed there and ranked wellFeb 14 08:49
schestowitz-pii feel sort of bad for people who still think Google/YouTube as a shim between their audience is safeFeb 14 08:55
schestowitz-pior twitter "followers" instead of direct access to rss feedsFeb 14 08:55
schestowitz-piour rss address has been the same for almost 17 yearsFeb 14 08:55
schestowitz-picompanies don't last this long, ot the urls don't (feedBURNER)Feb 14 08:55
schestowitz-pianyway, sorry i i rammble on too much. i left my employer at the right time, we can not fortify what Feb 14 08:55
schestowitz-piwe have and imprrrrrrrrrrrrove it (oops, that's barrier and loggy network)Feb 14 08:55
schestowitz-pi*laggyFeb 14 08:55
schestowitz-pihigh latency can result in keystroke sent several timesFeb 14 08:55
schestowitz-pii use ytalk over the raspi400Feb 14 08:55
schestowitz-piit connected over ssh to vonick, which in turns connected to sshFeb 14 08:55
schestowitz-pi*is connectedFeb 14 08:55
schestowitz-piand then vonick runs barrier over two machines, to reach 'itself'Feb 14 08:55
schestowitz-pibarrier would 'skip' or 'bypass' the machine in the middle if it cannot be reachedFeb 14 08:55
schestowitz-pibut i spent an hour yesterday trying to debug a separate issue with the two barrier handles screenFeb 14 08:55
schestowitz-piedges and corner for screen spaces that are of very diferent shapeFeb 14 08:55
schestowitz-pisynergy does not seem to have this problem, but nothing is perfect, i timed out and gave upFeb 14 08:55
schestowitz-pithe monthly cost of pc+external screen is low compared to the "worth" of timeFeb 14 09:00
schestowitz-pii dim down more these days, or physically switch off when afkFeb 14 09:00
schestowitz-pidistributing the processes a<cross machine can be done in a way that makes it robust to one machineFeb 14 09:01
schestowitz-pilosing the connection or rebootingFeb 14 09:01
schestowitz-pifor important open files we have the pi back up to external 3tb drive each morningFeb 14 09:01
schestowitz-piand keep a stack going back a few days, in case removery from older scnapshot is neededFeb 14 09:01
schestowitz-pithe files are accessed over ssh, so there is also a corresponding working file in /tmp or ramFeb 14 09:01
schestowitz-pii started doing it this way 12 months ago when vonick alerted about the ssdFeb 14 09:01
schestowitz-piit seems like good practice in general, two working copies always on two machinesFeb 14 09:01
schestowitz-pijust need to seperate the files that barely change (infrequent backups) and those that changeFeb 14 09:01
schestowitz-piall day longFeb 14 09:01
schestowitz-pianf files you don't mind losing, e.g. browser history, images you already uploaded to a site etc./Feb 14 09:01
techrights[sec]Rsync can do incremental backup with --link-dest    Feb 14 09:06
schestowitz-pii prefer what i call "stacks" and iirc amazon calls "Glacier(TM)"Feb 14 09:08
schestowitz-pisince 2004ishFeb 14 09:08
schestowitz-piso that in case I mess up something I can go back in timeFeb 14 09:08
schestowitz-pip[redating zfs and btrfs in linuxFeb 14 09:08
schestowitz-pialso, if you use the don't delet option in rsync (or vice vers)Feb 14 09:08
schestowitz-pithen you're left with lots of cruftFeb 14 09:08
schestowitz-pirather than a mirrorFeb 14 09:08
techrights[sec]Yes, periodic use of the --delete option is essential.  Feb 14 09:16
schestowitz-piseems like a neat workaroundFeb 14 09:17
schestowitz-pito embrace of file systems that are complexFeb 14 09:17
schestowitz-pii will take a look.....Feb 14 09:17
schestowitz-pi                                                                          │··········Feb 14 09:44
schestowitz-pisometimes the mumble monitoring picks up or scans a scanner                                          │··········Feb 14 09:44
schestowitz-pijust now some ip from a block in bulgaria (it seems)                                                 │··········Feb 14 09:44
schestowitz-pitried some parts above 60000                                                                         │··········Feb 14 09:44
schestowitz-pi*ports         Feb 14 09:44
techrights[sec]                                                    │··········Feb 14 10:06
techrights[sec]Scanners run all the time against many ports                                                         │··········Feb 14 10:06
techrights[sec]                                                     Feb 14 10:06
schestowitz-TR2So Far This Year 75,717 Deaths in England and Wales, Compared to 58,461 in the Same Period in 2019 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/02/14/30-percent-death-increase/Feb 14 10:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » So Far This Year 75,717 Deaths in England and Wales, Compared to 58,461 in the Same Period in 2019Feb 14 10:27
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schestowitz-pipandemic is overFeb 14 12:02
schestowitz-piback to work, folksFeb 14 12:02
schestowitz-pigood luckFeb 14 12:02
schestowitz-TR2"persistently sad or hopeless" ☛ https://www.plenglish.com/news/2023/02/13/cdc-says-teen-girls-report-record-levels-of-violence-suicide-risk/ | Source: La Prensa LatinaFeb 14 12:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.plenglish.com | CDC says teen girls report record levels of violence, suicide risk - Prensa LatinaFeb 14 12:02
techrights[sec]                                                    │··········Feb 14 12:07
techrights[sec]They are affected worst by social control media. Feb 14 12:07
schestowitz-pimake-up cannot compete with instagramFeb 14 12:08
schestowitz-piso they will always feel uglyFeb 14 12:08
techrights[sec]Not to mention the destructive messages brought to the non-mainland ChineseFeb 14 12:16
techrights[sec]targets by ByteDance.  Feb 14 12:16
schestowitz-piidg says microsoft faces "slowing growth"Feb 14 12:28
schestowitz-pii didn't know firing 25k staff is "growth"Feb 14 12:29
schestowitz-pithen again, i didn't know ComputerWorld News is noiseFeb 14 12:29
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techrights[sec]g other that growth cannot be Feb 14 12:49
techrights[sec]mentioned.  Thus collapse is even labelled as "slowing growth" or "less growthFeb 14 12:49
techrights[sec]than expect" or some other nonsense.Feb 14 12:49
techrights[sec]"growth" has become so sacred to MBAs that anything other that growth cannot be Feb 14 12:49
techrights[sec]mentioned.  Thus collapse is even labelled as "slowing growth" or "less growthFeb 14 12:49
techrights[sec]than expect" or some other nonsense.Feb 14 12:49
schestowitz-piin 1945 the soviets entered berlinFeb 14 12:49
schestowitz-pihitler experienced "slowing growth" and shot himselfFeb 14 12:50
schestowitz-pialwaysd wanting morer and never is "enough" is a mental conditionFeb 14 12:50
schestowitz-pieven putin might have it and biden pumps up the war budgetFeb 14 12:50
schestowitz-piso it seems those people run the worldFeb 14 12:50
schestowitz-pithey always want moreFeb 14 12:50
schestowitz-pimore salary, higher positionFeb 14 12:50
schestowitz-pi"vicious cycle"Feb 14 12:50
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schestowitz-TR2Two completely different things ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/02/eff-backs-california-bill-protect-people-seeking-abortion-and-gender-affirming | Source: EFFFeb 14 13:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | EFF Backs California Bill to Protect People Seeking Abortion and Gender-Affirming Care from Dragnet Digital Surveillance | Electronic Frontier FoundationFeb 14 13:58
techrightssecYes, they're working to marginalize a mainsteam topic by coupling it to Feb 14 13:59
techrightssecother completely unrelated divisive.  It's done on purpose. Feb 14 13:59
schestowitz-piEFF afaic remember focused on the core issues back in the novell daysFeb 14 14:00
schestowitz-pinothing about abortion and suchFeb 14 14:00
schestowitz-pithat's ACLUFeb 14 14:00
schestowitz-piEFF and ACLU do collaborate on overlapping issues at timesFeb 14 14:00
techrights[sec]Collaboration is fine and at times useful.  However, the core issues need to Feb 14 14:01
techrights[sec]be in the forefront 100% of the tine, Feb 14 14:01
techrights[sec]s/tine/timeFeb 14 14:01
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schestowitz-piunstable troublemaker in sheep clothingFeb 14 15:59
schestowitz-pi'back' now from in-house valentine'sFeb 14 16:04
schestowitz-picards, gifts, other special thingsFeb 14 16:04
schestowitz-pii can't believe in 2023 we're still 30% more deaths than 2019Feb 14 16:04
schestowitz-piand the media does not mention thisFeb 14 16:04
schestowitz-piwe joked just not about what we could do "out" and not just the costFeb 14 16:05
schestowitz-pibut the risk associatedFeb 14 16:05
techrights[sec]The media does not mention deaths here eitherFeb 14 16:06
techrights[sec]though they are manyFeb 14 16:06
schestowitz-pisoon they will call people with masks on "snobs", nuns, paranoid, "criminals"Feb 14 16:43
schestowitz-pii.e. the opposite of what it was in 20202Feb 14 16:43
schestowitz-pipolicies not consistent wrt the data/evidenceFeb 14 16:43
schestowitz-piit's like a "fashion" Feb 14 16:43
schestowitz-pinow wearing them is "out of fashion"Feb 14 16:43
schestowitz-piheadsup: don't expect manyn links/articles today, i prioritise being a decent person/husband and today is 14/2Feb 14 16:46
schestowitz-pito guys it might be a mostly normal day, but to women it is notFeb 14 16:48
schestowitz-pipartly because of peers and brainFeb 14 16:48
schestowitz-TR2COVID-19 vaccines we have at the moment suck anyway. Efficacy far too low. Cheap to make (bar patent cartel/thicket), cause illness, don't offer sufficient protection. ☞ https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Sweden-Discards-8.5-Million-Doses-of-COVID-19-Vaccines-20230213-0018.htmlFeb 14 16:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.telesurenglish.net | Sweden Discards 8.5 Million Doses of COVID-19 Vaccines | News | teleSUR EnglishFeb 14 16:50
schestowitz-TR2Lesson of the story: do NOT PRE-order junk. Certainly don't pay x100 times the production costs because of a patent collusion and DO NOT do all this under/with secret clauses at taxpayers' expense. They won't be happy about it.Feb 14 16:52
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schestowitz-TR2the-scientist.com running "sponsored-article"[s] (spam/ads). We remember when the site had some dignity and quality. Sadly, a lot of journals went down the same path/route, even took bribes from Bill Gates to do a 180, instead of condemning his anti-health push -- as they once they -- they'd run puff pieces for him (yes, even Lancet!!!)Feb 14 16:57
schestowitz-TR2the-scientist.com is, at this moment, 66% SPAM ("sponsored article"") and 3% "opinion" (yes, opinion, not reporting). it'll probably be offline in a few years. sold out.Feb 14 16:57
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