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| schestowitz | > Thanks for sharing | Apr 14 05:52 |
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| schestowitz | > | Apr 14 05:52 |
| schestowitz | > One thing that is easy to spot: the debian.community post doesn't make | Apr 14 05:52 |
| schestowitz | > comment about FLOSSK anywhere. None of the FLOSSK people are in the | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > tartan photos. Therefore, why does FLOSSK write to you, why did nobody | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > from Debian contact you directly? | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > "Others are also welcome to join us there for a reasonable price." | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > I don't think the post is about the prices. | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > A very useful way to address any complaint. Just ask one and only one | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > question: "When was the first complaint you received about Mr Pocock?" | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > Let them answer that before drilling down on their concerns. Their | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > answers will eventually be contradicted with the dates. Just as the | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > accusation of a relationship with an intern was contradicted by evidence | Apr 14 05:53 |
| schestowitz | > about who really did that. | Apr 14 05:53 |
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| schestowitz-TR | ota | Apr 14 07:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | 7169 reqs for "rms' in today's logs | Apr 14 07:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | out of 41510 for webm | Apr 14 07:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was curious as many people do access that talk already | Apr 14 07:48 |
| schestowitz | = | Apr 14 07:52 |
| schestowitz | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/04/08/lat-inte-eu-infora-natcensur-i-tysthet/ | Apr 14 07:52 |
| schestowitz | = | Apr 14 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-femtejuli-se.translate.goog | Låt inte EU införa nätcensur i tysthet | Apr 14 07:52 | |
| schestowitz | x https://www.inach.net/the-digital-services-act/ | Apr 14 07:52 |
| schestowitz | = | Apr 14 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.inach.net | The Digital Services Act – INACH | Apr 14 07:52 | |
| Techrights-sec | TR shows up high in the search results for the talk and the FSF still | Apr 14 10:24 |
| Techrights-sec | has not published it anywhere , or at least no where easily found | Apr 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mostly ignore search engine because loyal readers are a lot more important then someone clicking | Apr 14 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | something and maybe pressing back | Apr 14 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday you and I debated what to do about sites that become SEO spamfarms | Apr 14 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Foss Linux" seems to be heading in a bad direction too | Apr 14 10:25 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 14 11:27 |
| Techrights-sec | much of the US government is porbably operated by and, certainly, on behalf of | Apr 14 11:27 |
| Techrights-sec | microsofters | Apr 14 11:27 |
| Techrights-sec | against the best interests of the nation | Apr 14 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft, Microsoft, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Kaseya (Windows)... https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity | Apr 14 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | Current Activity | CISA | Apr 14 11:27 | |
| schestowitz-TR | /2022/04/13/cisa-adds-10-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog | Apr 14 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | CISA must be run partly by Microsofters | Apr 14 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | They save face and shift attention to FOSS in a negative light quite a lot | Apr 14 11:27 |
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| schestowitz-TR | [11:54] <techrights-news> "Training Bundle might even make the most novice computer user into a regular Bill Gates." WTF?? https:/ | Apr 14 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | /boingboing.net/2022/04/04/six-linux-courses-that-can-take-you-from-computer-zero-to-hero-quickly.html | Apr 14 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | yes boingboing has been crap since corey left they shill M$ shift often and | Apr 14 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | loudly | Apr 14 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | "make the most novice computer user into a regular Bill Gates." | Apr 14 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | what, does it come with a complementary NAMBLA membership? | Apr 14 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | yes he probably feels burned because it was off to a good start while he | Apr 14 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | was there | Apr 14 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | They are one example of the symptom. | Apr 14 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | I guess buyouts worked for the colleges and universities and now they are turning to the reamining areas where people can self-tea | Apr 14 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | learn in spite of everything else. | Apr 14 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | s/can learn/could have learned/ | Apr 14 12:21 |
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| schestowitz-TR | draft | Apr 14 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | my impression after a few weeks with kde neon is not all good | Apr 14 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can see things I don't like as well | Apr 14 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | it feels like "rolling release" | Apr 14 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and therefore I can spot some rougher edges | Apr 14 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe for a hobby guy like daemonfc it's OK | Apr 14 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I end up wasting lots of time trying to 'fix' things | Apr 14 15:44 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 14 15:44 |
| Techrights-sec | the whole distro has to be rolling then | Apr 14 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | it also reminds me of windows in the sens that it wants a reboot to install | Apr 14 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the system updates | Apr 14 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and does not want me to run apt-get upgrade | Apr 14 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | this seems like a regression to me | Apr 14 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I assume they want a whole new image to boot each time | Apr 14 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not research this properly | Apr 14 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | vlc was causing some issues | Apr 14 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now webcamoid | Apr 14 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | installing updates takes a long time | Apr 14 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm OK with it as long as it's not "truly" my mkain machine | Apr 14 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | but maybe one for storage of files | Apr 14 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and music, some browsing etc. | Apr 14 15:48 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 14 15:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't get me wrong,. I put all the essensial data like email on there and usually I don't change machines | Apr 14 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | immediately | Apr 14 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still do file editing, over ssh, from the "old" machine, vonick | Apr 14 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I also check system error messages to assure myself nothing crazy is hapening | Apr 14 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | that OS will soon run out of official support | Apr 14 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | KDE neon has very cutting edge packages | Apr 14 16:01 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 14 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I would rather records on there as the camera is of better quality | Apr 14 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | copying across files for processing to the other machine takes only a few seconds | Apr 14 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | about a week ago the microphone no longer worked properly | Apr 14 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I set that aside and used the other one in the meantime | Apr 14 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | after this update (read) reboot) I hope it'll be back to normal | Apr 14 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wasted a lot of time trying to 'fix' it | Apr 14 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | on the upside, this past night tuxmachines had no issues | Apr 14 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | no downtime and the backups seem fine, I check every 12 hours | Apr 14 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not test gunzip on them | Apr 14 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will do in a moment on TR | Apr 14 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | weirdly enoughn the gzip file on archives/tm*, for yesterday, is failing | Apr 14 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I tried all sorts gunzip and gzip -d | Apr 14 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | the one from a day earlier (04-12) works OK | Apr 14 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | when extracted it is 1.62gb | Apr 14 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | AAA | Apr 14 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | another dump will come there soon | Apr 14 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I eill test it | Apr 14 16:11 |
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| Techrights-sec | ok | Apr 14 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still cannot fix the microphone+noisetorch, even after updates | Apr 14 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | but maybe it can work out for the better as I want to try obs studio | Apr 14 16:38 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm mostly unfamiliar with sound. I can only make the vague recommendation | Apr 14 16:40 |
| Techrights-sec | to try to get each voice on a separate channel and then use Audacity or a fork | Apr 14 16:40 |
| Techrights-sec | to do noise reduction. | Apr 14 16:40 |
| Techrights-sec | My (mis-)understanding is that a lot of people do the audio in Audacity or a | Apr 14 16:40 |
| Techrights-sec | fork and then fold that in with the video recordings using Kdenlive, after | Apr 14 16:40 |
| Techrights-sec | having captured the video with OBS. Thus one of the reasons for clapping once | Apr 14 16:40 |
| Techrights-sec | at the start. | Apr 14 16:40 |
| Techrights-sec | That facilitates synchronizing the sound and the video. | Apr 14 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | such a process would certainly take a lot more time | Apr 14 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | webcamoid managed to simplify a lot of stuff | Apr 14 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am not entirely sure why, just roughly when, the input | Apr 14 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | stopped working | Apr 14 16:42 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes many (nearly all) seem to have a full time production manager | Apr 14 16:42 |
| Techrights-sec | The video seemed to lock up. | Apr 14 16:42 |
| Techrights-sec | By the way is there a link to the official FSF arhived copy of the talk? | Apr 14 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | which video locked up? | Apr 14 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did notice that vlc was recently acting a bit odd | Apr 14 16:44 |
| Techrights-sec | http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-libreplanet-2022-and-irc/ | Apr 14 16:45 |
| Techrights-sec | At least in VLC it locks up. That happens in other videos too | Apr 14 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Video of Richard Stallman’s Belated LibrePlanet 2022 Talk (With Commentary) | Techrights | Apr 14 16:45 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | yes, I did notice this vlc issue recently | Apr 14 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe a week ago | Apr 14 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the first time | Apr 14 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | but in firefox and other media players it plays OK | Apr 14 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm not sure why | Apr 14 16:52 |
| Techrights-sec | :/ | Apr 14 16:52 |
| Techrights-sec | VLC used to be best but I gather it has attracted undesireable attention from M$ | Apr 14 16:52 |
| Techrights-sec | or other malevolent interests | Apr 14 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am nore sure if what changed was vlc, the media files, or something else | Apr 14 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | but a few times I was mortified that recordings had gone bad | Apr 14 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then I saw it was OK in other players | Apr 14 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot recall if processing the video overcame the issue | Apr 14 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just tested some older file | Apr 14 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | it seems like procesing or re-encoding such video solves the issue for vlc | Apr 14 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I think we've seen the issue whether it's recorded on the new laptop or the new | Apr 14 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | laptop | Apr 14 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | this leads me to suspecting vlc might be the culprit | Apr 14 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | today I iUN-installed vlc after installing it 2 weeks ago on the new lapto | Apr 14 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it was causinf severe issues at time | Apr 14 16:58 |
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| schestowitz-TR | this is starting to look like a blessing in disguise | Apr 14 17:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | the options in obs studio are a whole new level | Apr 14 17:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | the file sizes are smaller | Apr 14 17:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | it does noise cancellation | Apr 14 17:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | filters are several | Apr 14 17:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and allows several cams all at ones | Apr 14 17:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | with the screen also | Apr 14 17:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think this is what I will use from now on | Apr 14 17:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | shhhhiiiit | Apr 14 17:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | but anyway, different workflow | Apr 14 17:11 |
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| schestowitz-TR | the audio mixing is very nice too | Apr 14 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | so now the only reason for still using webcamoid is legacy i guess | Apr 14 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Apr 14 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can see the 1-min video | Apr 14 18:00 |
| Techrights-sec | I've not done video editing for a very long time | Apr 14 18:02 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 14 18:02 |
| Techrights-sec | Maybe the draft could have a few words about the goal of the survey or the topic | Apr 14 18:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, are you reading the obs draft | Apr 14 18:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | also notice file size | Apr 14 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2.5mb for a 1-min busy video | Apr 14 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | a | Apr 14 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | vastly better than before | Apr 14 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | Oh. Refreshed now. I see OBS on KDE now | Apr 14 18:05 |
| Techrights-sec | The text of the post ought to mention KDE Neon by name | Apr 14 18:05 |
| Techrights-sec | "BS Studio" ought to be "OBS Studio | Apr 14 18:05 |
| Techrights-sec | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma | Apr 14 18:05 |
| Techrights-sec | Excellent | Apr 14 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Serial comma - Wikipedia | Apr 14 18:05 | |
| schestowitz-TR | important typo | Apr 14 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | in terms of workflow | Apr 14 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | it outputs to a bunch of formats di not like | Apr 14 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | about 6 proprietary ones | Apr 14 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I copy the output across, ffmpeg to convert to webm and then pipe through the usual | Apr 14 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | algos | Apr 14 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | thgis way the script is compatible with both PCs | Apr 14 18:07 |
| Techrights-sec | Perhaps that could be annotated in the post as an advantage. | Apr 14 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | which advantage? the formats|? File size? Webcamoid has more options | Apr 14 18:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and more liberal ones | Apr 14 18:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | as a side note, for streaming it suggests using all sorts of disservices I strionglu dislike | Apr 14 18:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we rarely have a need to stream anything | Apr 14 18:10 |
| Techrights-sec | "also notice file size" | Apr 14 18:11 |
| Techrights-sec | "16:44:55 bnchs; i'm pretty sure the trolls triggered them too much" | Apr 14 18:11 |
| Techrights-sec | streaming is only useful in very specific contexts, nothing relevant to TR | Apr 14 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, there are risks associated with it in an env not carefully controlled | Apr 14 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | like an actual studio | Apr 14 18:19 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | Apr 14 18:20 |
| Techrights-sec | a proper studio would be a prerequisite, too | Apr 14 18:20 |
| Techrights-sec | an probably a better mic | Apr 14 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | since you have mentioned it, I am going to weak the mic | Apr 14 18:20 |
| Techrights-sec | I bet there are good used mics around now that those that tried and gave up | Apr 14 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec | on vlogging plous those that found they wanted even fancier during the pandemic | Apr 14 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec | have made their decisions | Apr 14 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | this evening's tm backup went o | Apr 14 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | jk gunzipping now | Apr 14 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, looks good | Apr 14 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1.69gb | Apr 14 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the new few days I will focus a lot on patenbts | Apr 14 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | i will also recover from lack of sleep and am about to mess around with obs studio | Apr 14 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | it has ALOOOOT of funcionality | Apr 14 18:27 |
| Techrights-sec | excellent | Apr 14 18:27 |
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