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schestowitz                  <h5><a href="https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-jitsi-meet-video-conferencing-solution-on-debian-10/">How To Install Jitsi Meet Video Conferencing Solution on Debian 10</a></h5>May 14 04:56
schestowitz                  <blockquote>May 14 04:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-jitsi-meet-video-conferencing-solution-on-debian-10/">How )May 14 04:56
schestowitz                    <p>Jitsi Meet is a free and open-source video-conferencing application that can be used as a standalone application or embed in your web application. It is based on WebRTC and provides multi-person video conference rooms without installing additional software or browser extensions. </p></blockquote></li>May 14 04:56
schestowitz                  <h5><a href="https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-jitsi-meet-video-conferencing-solution-on-debian-10/">How To Install Jitsi Meet Video Conferencing Solution on Debian 10</a></h5>May 14 04:56
schestowitz                  <blockquote>May 14 04:56
schestowitz                    <p>Jitsi Meet is a free and open-source video-conferencing application that can be used as a standalone application or embed in your web application. It is based on WebRTC and provides multi-person video conference rooms without installing additional software or browser extensions. </p></blockquote></li>May 14 04:56
schestowitzRe: For immediate publicationMay 14 05:07
schestowitz> the only typo i absolutely hate is "publicly knowledge"May 14 05:07
schestowitz> May 14 05:07
schestowitz> if we could change that to "public knowledge" we are good. it was "publicly known" and thats how these things happen. that one really changes the flow when its on a good roll, you know how much i appreciate it. cheers.May 14 05:07
schestowitzThanks, I am reading mail backwards thankfully, most recent first...May 14 05:07
schestowitz>>>> If he -- like Zuck -- surveyed his chances of become US Pres, I reckonMay 14 05:35
schestowitz>>>> he'd give up before starting. Too much of a dark past (and present).May 14 05:35
schestowitz>>> He may try to "shoot the moon" and win immunity for life via the office.May 14 05:35
schestowitz>> Trump did that...May 14 05:35
schestowitz>>May 14 05:35
schestowitz>>May 14 05:35
schestowitz> And he had less media control than Gates.  Also, Gates has been spendingMay 14 05:35
schestowitz> on reputation laundering for years, it probably adds up to billions byMay 14 05:35
schestowitz> now.  The question is will he run now or, if there is enough rubble leftMay 14 05:35
schestowitz> to have an election in, during 2024?  Or maybe just replace the publicMay 14 05:35
schestowitz> sector entirely.  He already has all their desktop machines.   Or whatMay 14 05:35
schestowitz> is he really up to?May 14 05:35
schestowitz> "Yeah, the disabling is just to stop the mouse from being moved. Then hhpc detects the mouse isn't moving and hides it for you."May 14 05:48
schestowitz> May 14 05:48
schestowitz> May 14 05:48
schestowitz> Just "turn off" the mouse with rmmod then reinstate it seconds later with modprobe. Easy. It will need root.May 14 05:48
schestowitz> I managed to do what with xinput and without root on buster.May 14 05:48
schestowitzIt helps a lotMay 14 05:48
schestowitzAt one point I sort of broke x and had to reboot, won't try THAT again ;-)May 14 05:48
schestowitzre trolls:May 14 05:55
schestowitz>> If they're fed, they'll get hungrier.May 14 05:55
schestowitz> Everybody is making this point repeatedly, as if Canta was not agreed with from the moment he commented. They didn't notice that I got the point? Granted, you're not wrong.May 14 05:55
schestowitzRe: GCC isn't Github-freeMay 14 05:56
schestowitz> Nothing wrong with that....May 14 05:56
schestowitz> May 14 05:56
schestowitz> May 14 05:56
schestowitz> No, there isn't. But in hindsight, the trajectory of both Mozilla and Guile is not too pretty with regards to software freedom, and that's the only interesting thing about the coincidence. I'm not saying it proves anything, only that it's there.May 14 05:56
schestowitz> There are more de Icazas out there. I'm not saying we should go out of our way to smoke them out, but if and when they come over and sit in our laps, it's worth taking notice. I've never heard of the guy. But I am generally disappointed in the long run with practically anybody who went work for Crapzilla. It's the "success" story that MADE "Open source".May 14 05:56
schestowitz>> Really its a quite a little storm over that AGP remove patch.   Reality is that powerpc very early on run AGP cards in PCI mode because there was no real performance advantage and having to maintain exact list of quirks was a pain in ass.May 14 05:57
schestowitz> May 14 05:57
schestowitz> The big picture is that they're removing support for more things than they're adding, unless you count anti-features like DRM, and people are right to be pissed about the big picture. But some people get caught up in whatever little details defend the new status quo. Can't say I respect those people. I call them shills for a reason, not just for fun.May 14 05:57
schestowitz> May 14 05:57
schestowitzThey have just appointed someone from Microsoft as Mozilla COO.May 14 05:57
schestowitzI did a "Dent" about it...May 14 05:57
schestowitz> I did a "Dent" about it...May 14 06:07
schestowitz> May 14 06:07
schestowitz> ill post about it as well. already rust is on github, and gnu icecat (librejs) pulls in the jasmine library.May 14 06:07
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schestowitz> Dear Eben:May 14 17:40
schestowitz> May 14 17:40
schestowitz> Please advise Professor xxxxconcerning FSF interference withMay 14 17:40
schestowitz> xxxxxxxx's grant applications as outlined in my email below.May 14 17:40
schestowitz> May 14 17:40
schestowitz> I don't know who their legal counsel is, but I assume that SussmanMay 14 17:40
schestowitz> remains a friend of yours. That being the case, please caution him aboutMay 14 17:40
schestowitz> causing RMS' brainchild to descend into a criminal morass.May 14 17:40
schestowitz> May 14 17:40
schestowitz> GNU C-Graph does not accept funds from organisations that supportMay 14 17:40
schestowitz> criminal activity - moreover /racially motivated crime/. The defendantsMay 14 17:40
schestowitz> in the matter against the University of Aberdeen have also commissionedMay 14 17:40
schestowitz> a series of murders.May 14 17:41
schestowitz> May 14 17:41
schestowitz> MIT professors are supposed to be highly intelligent, but it was trulyMay 14 17:41
schestowitz> the dumbest of dumb to get their Uncle Tom officers (their EqualMay 14 17:41
schestowitz> Opportunity Officer and their associated Dean of the Graduate School) toMay 14 17:41
schestowitz> attempt to persuade me to accept the "degree" from xxxxxxx in order toMay 14 17:41
schestowitz> execute the permanent fraudulent transfer, *aka theft*, of myMay 14 17:41
schestowitz> dissertation and grades to white students. This is truly diversity inMay 14 17:41
schestowitz> action - the type you find on a plantation.May 14 17:41
schestowitz> May 14 17:41
schestowitz> I shall be sending a formal letter to the FSF to "cease and desist".May 14 17:41
schestowitz> Since he doesn't understand the legalities, please advise Sussman andMay 14 17:41
schestowitz> friends to get out of my way. And make no mistake - there is no amountMay 14 17:41
schestowitz> of money that will silence me.May 14 17:41
schestowitz> hi [][][][][][][]May 14 17:42
schestowitz> May 14 17:42
schestowitz> i was just looking up when gnu radio switched to github as part of my research, and found the email where you quoted rms and his plea to avoid github. its a shame they didnt listen.May 14 17:42
schestowitz> May 14 17:42
schestowitz> im curious about that incident, if youre willing to tell me more. mostly my concern is about the piecemeal migration of certain projects to github-- though i did think the reply to you was condescending and rude as well. if you have questions for me, thats also acceptable. at any rate, thanks for trying to defend the gnu project and free software. cheers.May 14 17:42
schestowitz> It will ultimately be necessary to fork GNU.May 14 17:44
schestowitz> May 14 17:44
schestowitz> It's going to take loads more evidence to prove-- 5 years at least I think. A pity because if people started now, it would be easier.May 14 17:44
schestowitz> May 14 17:44
schestowitz> To be clear, this fork won't be necessary (and I'm not assuming it will happen at all) due to Stallman's leadership or lack thereof. It will be necessary due to the maintainers of individual projects. May 14 17:44
schestowitz> May 14 17:44
schestowitz> It can easily be argued (and it's my own position) that Stallman has done nearly all he can in this regard. He may run the GNU project, but he's not the "benevolent dictator" people assume. He's clearly less than dictatorial, as he has made some very wise proclamations (regarding GitHub) that people have ignored and openly defied-- if they had followed, we would not be in this mess. I would be willing to blame Stallman if I had May 14 17:44
schestowitzreason to, but what would it be? There's only so much he can do to strongarm these people.May 14 17:44
schestowitz> May 14 17:44
schestowitz> The problem, I think, is not at the top level, but it exists at the individual project level. And if it could be fixed at the top level, I'd be all for that. I think it has to be fixed (despite Einstein's quote to the contrary) at the same level it exists on-- by project leaders, not the Chief Gnuisance. Because this is a volunteer-caused problem, it needs to be fixed by volunteers. But it can be pushed for from anywhere-- the topMay 14 17:44
schestowitz from users, whatever. There's probably an article in this, but not yet there isn't. If you can make one, feel free to quote any or all of this. But I am aware that this isn't an issue you're tackling directly right now. And I really don't blame you. There are several ways in which this would only waste your time-- but don't be afraid to change your mind about that later. Cheers.May 14 17:44
schestowitz> i doubt its this bad in every instance, but you should definitely take a look at this:May 14 17:46
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schestowitz> gnu radio does NOT get it. #deletegithub <https://framasphere.org/tags/deletegithub>May 14 17:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-framasphere.org | #deletegithubMay 14 17:46
schestowitz> dec 2015: rms on discuss-gnustep-- Please, no GitHub “GitHub does things that are quite bad for free software and is not interested in changing them. If you want to move off Savannah, please pick some other place.”May 14 17:46
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schestowitz> May 14 17:46
schestowitz> sep 2016: gnu radio moves issue tracking to githubMay 14 17:46
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schestowitz> feb 2017: May 14 17:46
schestowitz> May 14 17:46
schestowitz> May 14 17:46
schestowitz> a user or developer (not one of the listed project maintainers) emails: “Please do not use github. It runs non-free JavaScript, hosts non-free software discover-able by its users, and encourages poor licensing practices. https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html has extra information. I believe a GNU project may not refer users to non-free resources in this manner.”May 14 17:46
schestowitz> May 14 17:46
schestowitz> someone else who is not one of the listed project maintainers replies:May 14 17:46
schestowitz> May 14 17:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gnu.org | GNU Ethical Repository Criteria Evaluations - GNU Project - Free Software FoundationMay 14 17:47
schestowitz>> Hi Svetlana, I get your concerns, but AFAIK > it’s currently very unlikely that GNU Radio will leave GitHub. It is still the place-to-be for open source code.>  If you feel uncomfortable using GitHub, we also have the repo self-hosted at > http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/repository>  .May 14 17:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/repository )May 14 17:47
schestowitz>>May 14 17:47
schestowitz> but citing the popularity with “open source” was obviously too reasonable, because *one of the official maintainers* decides to use a flimsy straw man to put her in her place:May 14 17:47
schestowitz> May 14 17:47
schestowitz> May 14 17:47
schestowitz>> I’m going to paraphrase your position, to highlight the absurdity of it:May 14 17:47
schestowitz>>May 14 17:47
schestowitz>>May 14 17:47
schestowitz>> “Please don’t house Gnu projects in buildings in which other, non-free, software development takes place, also, not in cities in which the by-laws allow such non-free entities to conduct business”.May 14 17:47
schestowitz>>May 14 17:47
schestowitz>>May 14 17:47
schestowitz>> Can you see how absurd your position is?May 14 17:47
schestowitz>>May 14 17:47
schestowitz> apparently, the concerns of richard stallman (which were nearly quoted by the person emailing) are “absurd” and just like “cities in which the by-laws allow such non-free entities to conduct business”.May 14 17:47
schestowitz> May 14 17:47
MinceRsounds like someone doesn't understand what github is about :>May 14 17:47
schestowitz> Alright, good morningMay 14 17:47
schestowitz> May 14 17:48
schestowitz> Would working on the back-end be okay? I prefer the back-end, I feel I'mMay 14 17:48
schestowitz> pretty good at front-end right now.May 14 17:48
schestowitzWe cannot without establishing a level of trust first.May 14 17:48
schestowitzI hope you can contribute first with the CMS.May 14 17:48
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9v2jksWHqnz9GUwXFAMay 14 17:51
schestowitz"May 14 17:51
schestowitzInteresting. Shame that #Reuters' website denies access to #Tor users.May 14 17:51
schestowitzOne would think if any #newsOutlet might respect people's decision to remain #anonymous online, it would be Reuters.May 14 17:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 14 17:51
schestowitz"May 14 17:51
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9v1X3OjTKXq3oyeQ6aMay 14 17:51
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schestowitz"May 14 17:51
schestowitzHere's a 'donkey' story.May 14 17:51
schestowitz1 donkey, 2 elders(grandpa,grandma). They are walking on the road and others are yelling at them, because:May 14 17:51
schestowitzType 1: Both are riding on the donkeyMay 14 17:51
schestowitz"Poor Donkey! He just can't handle 2 people weight!"May 14 17:51
schestowitzType 2: Only grandpa is ridingMay 14 17:51
schestowitz"Hey! You better ride off and let Grandma ride on!"May 14 17:51
schestowitz"May 14 17:51
schestowitz"May 14 17:52
schestowitzType 3: Only grandma is ridingMay 14 17:52
schestowitz"What a woman! She let the poor husband walk on his own!"May 14 17:52
schestowitzType 4: Not ridingMay 14 17:52
schestowitz"They are idiots who doesn't know how to ride!"May 14 17:52
schestowitzSo, all I wanted to say is this.May 14 17:52
schestowitzIt's hard to convince everyone.May 14 17:52
schestowitzTime is precious.May 14 17:52
schestowitzWrite you opinion and forget about it.May 14 17:52
schestowitzEnd of transmission.May 14 17:52
schestowitz"May 14 17:52
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9v1OCxNSzVFUI1qDVQMay 14 17:52
schestowitz" microsoft does not have to worry about security if they tarfu everything else? MSFT fubar all browsers since year began, are pushing lines to all open source kernels that have code on github, are endorsing patent laws that disrupt any upcoming innovation that pushes them to actually maintain existing code."May 14 17:52
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9v1ABWoEt2FyF4mwqWMay 14 17:53
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schestowitz"May 14 17:53
schestowitz1. Someone copied and improved crimeflare docs on trac.torproject.org, Tor's Wiki service.May 14 17:53
schestowitz2. Spammer replaced them & some Tor Project's pages(WeSupportTor etc) with a ch1ld p0rn pic multiple timesMay 14 17:53
schestowitz3. Tor Project helped user1 by reverting it to previous state multiple times. HoeverMay 14 17:53
schestowitz4. They finally deleted the all contributions. Spammer winsMay 14 17:53
schestowitzLook here for infoMay 14 17:53
schestowitztrac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/34175May 14 17:53
schestowitz"May 14 17:53
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9v16NxwPRBky33HkOmMay 14 17:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 14 17:53
schestowitz"VS Code is popular. Maybe you should tell people about VSCodium. Same product built from the same code base, just without the extra Microsoft payload added at build time."May 14 17:53
schestowitzit still leads to the same city/villageMay 14 17:53
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9v0BS165wxVLblbg1oMay 14 17:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 14 17:55
schestowitz"May 14 17:55
schestowitz> how #unethical does #Microsoft want to be?May 14 17:55
schestowitzI haven't see any sign of a limit. The only reasons to have software patents is to knobble competitors (or troll companies at random), or to gain entry to a patent pool (of "defensive" patents). NZ patent law doesn't even allow software ("as such") to be patented, for pretty much the reasons given here:May 14 17:55
schestowitzhttps://framatube.org/videos/watch/edcb749e-df5d-49f5-8269-5e413391b415May 14 17:55
schestowitzAutomating software patent applications is like building a bullet factory.May 14 17:55
schestowitz@schestowitz @vjy @freedcreativeMay 14 17:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-framatube.org | Richard Stallman - Patent Absurdity - FramaTubeMay 14 17:56
schestowitz"May 14 17:56
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uzccosEEzCYUFXKbIMay 14 17:56
schestowitz" please oh please oh please let this lead to a replacement standard to bluetooth"May 14 17:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 14 17:56
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uzLDO6OwNsGzqS9fkMay 14 17:57
schestowitz" this is a "major hack" that involves disassembling the laptop and flashing a new firmware to the thunderbolt controller.  i'm nominating it for a 2020 pwnie "most overhyped bug" submission tbh"May 14 17:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 14 17:57
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uyPD3HWYZ7J55n768May 14 17:58
schestowitz"May 14 17:58
schestowitz@strypeyMay 14 17:58
schestowitzHaha. Seriously though how #unethical does #Microsoft want to be?May 14 17:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 14 17:58
schestowitz#ethical #shopEthicalMay 14 17:58
schestowitz@schestowitz @vjy @freedcreativeMay 14 17:58
schestowitz"May 14 17:58
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uyGAuVvHiGpioQjRoMay 14 17:58
schestowitz"May 14 17:58
schestowitzBeware Meduza's fact-checking. Can not approve or disapprove events in this report, but they have been caught in publishing unchecked materials several times.May 14 17:58
schestowitzJust carefully go though the links, mentioned in the report, maybe it this time everything is ok.May 14 17:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 14 17:58
schestowitz"May 14 17:58
schestowitzOn average they're better than their competition in that areaMay 14 17:58
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uyBMJ4VotFBIkDvySMay 14 17:58
schestowitz"May 14 17:59
schestowitzCould this be an early sign of using algorithms to write and submit patent applications by the thousands? Just in case one of them can be used to knobble a competitor at some point.May 14 17:59
schestowitz@alcinnz @dsfgs @schestowitz @vjy @XR_UK @fsfe @olivia @realcaseyrollins @patricksudlow @resist_berlin_ @freedcreativeMay 14 17:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 14 17:59
schestowitz"May 14 17:59
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uyAve19prNQRewPkeMay 14 17:59
schestowitz" hope that wasn't a password ;)"May 14 17:59
schestowitzNo, not yetMay 14 17:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 14 17:59
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uxsSzQrL6OjHw9LLUMay 14 18:00
schestowitz"all of these speculative execution mitigations trade performance for security by poisoning the speculative pipeline in various ways.  blame arrogant CPU designers for the necessity of adopting this crap"May 14 18:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 14 18:00
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uxmcicc5yroK3u4nYMay 14 18:00
schestowitz"May 14 18:00
schestowitz@dsfgs @strypey @schestowitz @vjy @XR_UK @fsfe @olivia @realcaseyrollins @patricksudlow @resist_berlin_ @freedcreative At the very least I can safely say that applying these ideas to cryptocurrency mining is a joke. Humans are even worse at it!May 14 18:00
schestowitzYou'd have to ask a neuroscientist, but I think the rest is too.May 14 18:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 14 18:00
schestowitz"May 14 18:00
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uxhAPjSEYMRrGmrtwMay 14 18:01
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schestowitz"May 14 18:01
schestowitzI'm not seeing an "above", but in general my attitude is that automation isn't the problem. The ownership of the automation, i.e. capitalism, is.May 14 18:01
schestowitzThough in many cases "automation" usually isn't, and instead is just putting on a good show.May 14 18:01
schestowitz"May 14 18:01
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9uxgl923Bf9UpAR5pgMay 14 18:01
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schestowitz"May 14 18:01
schestowitzWe advise assessing the patent above.May 14 18:01
schestowitzIs this a joke?May 14 18:01
schestowitz"May 14 18:01
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